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Vert spelled backwards TREV!
VGPR-Many thanks for the heads-up:) I had a 5.5mil buy order in @ .0006/ going to hold-off for now......If VERT goes away for a little, may re-think........surely after a R/S here, they'll let her run @ least once.........LOL
VGPR. Another stock being diluted. Lost 80% of its value before a r/s. Then from 0.27 to 0.01 today with VERT at the ask and lowering the ask (at least this past few days). Will monitor VERT to see if there continue to be at the ask...
Any change of opinion? Looks like a cellar box candidate next week.
The face behind VERT still has shares for sale. Its not bad because they are not dumping to death and the stock does have forward looking news coming. I even expect some tomorrow. VERT could go away or higher. Just a 0.0005 hit could get it going again. I am a large holder there, but at this point its at no risk for me. That stock will be my payout for the year. It already has been in a way. I hold many but for nearly free.
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What does it mean as a long bag-holder that they are sitting on the ask on another slow day?
I'm almost certain of it. The company has been behind the O/S increase, and then they provide those shares to VERT for a predetermined price. When a company does this the face behind VERT owns shares for a very low price and they use them to make their money back with a huge gain.
hypothetically the investor behind VERT could have received 500 million shares when the price was still at 0.01 months ago for a price of $500,000. The value of those shares at a penny would be 5 million but they get it for $500,000. Then they dilute 100 million or so from a penny down to 0.002 with an average near 0.003 where the heavy bounce volume comes in. Now they already have recouped $300,000 instantly and have 400 mil more shares to get back the remaining $200,000 and beyond. Then they hire a bashing and promo staff to facilitate the trading spikes.
I need to head out the door, but that is a basic scenario.
So, does that mean that venture capital is came into TGGI and had something to do with the 30% share inflate?
VERT is EVIL weeeeeeeeeee
I remember that one, with ENTI, had such a future, so much momentum was behind that one and they just dumped so many shares it was sickening.
Of course, if the informations are right. Those are only info what I was able to dig out
Thanks for the info. Its a chore to analyze their activity sometimes.
Here is some info bout VERT
ETCapital MarketsThe Vertical Group
SnapshotPeople
Company Overview
The Vertical Group is a private equity and venture capital firm specializing in early stage and angel financing, late-stage venture financing, buyouts of operating companies involved in recapitalization or corporate spin-off, and public companies. It seeks to make investments in medical technology and biotechnology sector. The firm typically invests between $500,000 and $10 million in venture capital transactions and to over $25 million in buyouts or public stock transactions. It prefers to invest for a period of ten years or longer. However, the firm does not restrict its investment activities by transaction type or company size. The Vertical group was founded in 1988 and is based in Summit...
The Vertical Group is a private equity and venture capital firm specializing in early stage and angel financing, late-stage venture financing, buyouts of operating companies involved in recapitalization or corporate spin-off, and public companies. It seeks to make investments in medical technology and biotechnology sector. The firm typically invests between $500,000 and $10 million in venture capital transactions and to over $25 million in buyouts or public stock transactions. It prefers to invest for a period of ten years or longer. However, the firm does not restrict its investment activities by transaction type or company size. The Vertical group was founded in 1988 and is based in Summit, New Jersey with an additional office in Palo Alto, California.
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25 DeForest Avenue
Summit, NJ 07901
United States
Founded in 1988
Phone:
908-277-3737 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 908-277-3737 end_of_the_skype_highlighting
Fax:
908-273-9434
www.vertical-group.com
Key Executives
Mr. Richard B. Emmitt
General Partner
Age: 62 Mr. Jack W. Lasersohn
General Partner
Age: 55 Dr. Yue-Teh Jang
General Partner
Mr. Stephen D. Baksa
General Partner
Mr. John E. Runnells
General Partner
Age: 65 Compensation as of Fiscal Year 2010.
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=23785
If anyone has studied this MM and has a good grasp of the techniques and want to help feel free to become an assistant. Just ask. I dont know how much time I will have toi run this great so if anyone wants to be the head moderator let me know that too.
VERT does have his good times, but they are hard to detect and could be traps. There are many opinions and outcomes within a chart, and VERTs actions can help one narrow the pattern down. The board was past due on Ihub. If for nothing else a place for some to vent and learn for the next time. I dont know how active I'll be here because the idea was just a spur of the moment thing.
Thanks Analogy,
Yeah I've noticed that 0.0001 bid sit of F'n VERT when he is doing his dirty work (aka the whim of the company diluting)...then, when he goes back up on the Ask he likes to sit a tick
or two below the going rate, on the bid.
Sincere Cheers, and thanks for your board about 'all things VERT',
GetSum
Yes. All cases of bad VERT. ENTI has been slaughtered and VERT is plain dilute to death now. The others are all alive and need to be watched for VERT to exit or go dormant in the pennies. Then watch for VERT to raise the bid to know a move is soon. VERT is mostly inactive at 0.0001 will working the ask.
EMLL, CNEX, & TGII...all the stocks I'm in, at present. Very similar patterns...dilution for the companies at a low ball price (whatever he can get), and then jumping back up, between 2 and 20 ticks.
Oh, and not to mention ENTI...which has been diluted to near death. Seems to be the Summer of dilution in the double and triple '0's.
If you see a stock being controlled by VERT point it out. Are they buying, selling, shorting, forcing top and low targets? Name the symbol and chat about it.
Lets talk the MM VERT. Big seller all around on many stocks. Doing some strong buying at EXPH.
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