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OK. I just made a couple of phone calls...didn't really get too far, but here goes:
Called the T/A and explained there was some question about the ownership of the shell and could she tell me who they have as the owner, or where I could get that information. She said the only thing she could really tell me was the address of record and the phone number they have:
Formerly Bikers Dream Inc
1 NE 1st Avenue
Ocala, FL 34470
(718) 554-3652
I called them and got an answering machine. I left a message with my basic question and hope to get a return call. Will post if I hear anything.
Ouch. Would love to see some news come soon.
Cant you see he's probably an Astrom shill along with Joey?
These 2 guys ridicule all the proven Astrom connections and keep making up Reverse Merger rumor bulcrap.
He brought DD you can verify?
Geesh. I am not going back through all those posts from the weekend and start this up again.
Glad to hear you are done here...
Just to clarify, my last few posts have nothing to do with my opinion of the stock doing good or bad.... I wish the best for all of you guys... I hope everything turns out great here.
I just dont like seeing people that do what Joey has done here be given a forum and validity. Shameless pumping only hurts people and people taht do so need to be exposed.
Oh, I totally agree!
You dont know who or what to believe in pennyland...
SO I ask the question again... Why do you give validity to this beyond bs poster joey??? yet you question someone like CuttinRog who comes here and posts dd he found that you can verify???
"The reason I do not doubt him is I have seen this instance happen two other times"
Have you never been in a stock, and seen someone post bad info they found out about the company and it turned out to be true? I would imagine in pennyland, that is what happens to be the norm.
Its ok to pump the company, but if someone posts something that is against your viewpoint, he must be wrong...
You need to get your head straight man.
Anyways I'm done here.. Just hope I made you think a little.
Look at the chart please...Do we have shorts here?...hummmm...
http://www.streetauthority.com/terms/i/invertedhammer.asp
We don't know who or what to believe. That's what you get here in pennyland. The sky never really fell here yesterday did it as they stated it would. :)
Ok... only problem is you cant DD what he says...
Everything is that some "inside source" that he happened to get in contact with because its he supposively works in the same industry, informed him of this. Come on man, the guy couldnt even find the number to UMCC after he claimed to figure out who the RM company was. I mean if he is good enough to figure out who the mystery RM company is and get the scoop out of the CEO, none of which he can name until hdogtx reveals dd about it, and then which changes as new dd comes out, I mean come on man... thats beyond ridiculous. And if you believe that, no offense but you are just as pathetic.
I have seen people banned on many board for trying to create panic on many boards using such techniques. Claiming they talked to so and so, things that cannot be proven.
It is just some how ok as long as the guy is pumping the company. Lol! CuttinRog comes on here and posts very interesting DD that you can follow the links and SEE the trail with your own eyes and you criticize him for it!
Here's your first reply to CuttinRog "
You 2 crack me up. No posts all day and I come back and there are 18 messages, mainly from 2 posters who say there is a scamster taking over the shell. Can you provide any more proof than we have?..
Nice skepticism... I agree with you. Then I did the dd and followed the trail and things looked really fishy!
Not once have you questioned the magical Joey though. Since his "inside info that cannot be verified" pumps the company, lets give him full credit!!!
Very nice logic!
I am not gullible. The reason I do not doubt him is I have seen this instance happen two other times. Guys show up with "interesting info" and people think they are off their rockers.
I will try and track these posts/posters down (I think they were on RB) as examples. The stocks were trading in the pennies and the info turned out to be true and now trade in the $ ranges.
I always say, never doubt what people say until you DD it. He really did go out on a limb here with this post. If he is lying, that can be pretty damaging:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=19612060
Ditto....got $12k locked up in that mess right now, LOL.....Maybe Joey1234 is John/Jack Sparrow, LOL.
Lol, dont think you'll hear from Joey...
He hasnt been heard from since the pirate news came out!
Matter of fact, he was very vocal right up until the moment hdogtx released the pirate news. Then narry a peep since!
Who knows, maybe he has had enough time now to find a way to make this new discovery fit in with his previous pumping and he'll show up again.
You see thats what he's done just about everytime now...
New info comes out and he goes quiet, until he can think of a way to take the dd that hdogtx and others find and bend it into making it look like he predicted it in the first place.
Please dont tell me you are still seriously asking his opinion. Are you that gullible?
Apologies if you were being sarcastic and I missed it.
joey1324..
Can you call your connection and see if it's still on or if this shell is really going to go into a bidding war.
Accuride wants it and Ultra wants it back. Should get interesting.
my bad - just reading the posts, i meant the os, just questions i was hoping someone would have the answer too. Just wanting to add to my position to avg down if the going is good. So whats up with this so called "pirating" is it the same as bhub, or a whole diff beast?
doc4261..
you said:
"what about those "extra shares" dumped into the float,"
Can you prove that they were added to the float? The shares are probably restricted. The stock's volume is sure not trading like shares were added. There is no more volume now than there was when the O/S was lower.
What is the float? I say it's still 7.2 million unles proven otherwise.
lol..thats a lot of question marks..and i don't have the answers, but if you figure it out, let us know.
so what about those "extra shares" dumped into the float, they dont exist?? someone has to buy them back ?? anyone??
awwww how sweet lol
ahhh muchas gracias for the clarification hDog!
OT: That is correct Hookie, the board I started is related to Shell Facilitators, these guys know their chit when it comes shells and the people behind the scene getting them going.
Nothing happened behind the scenes with respect to me, penny, cuttinrog, surfcast, or anyone else involved with the "Scam Alert" except that I don't hold a grudge. We can take thier efforts for what they were, I am not here for the drama or to make enimies, were all here to learn and make some money.
Yes I have a position and added during the dip today!
ot: hdogtx..
Just curious about something. All this weekend you were at odds with CuttinRog and penny ta, but as of today, you open up a board as the moderator and them as assistants.
Can I ask "what happened" behind the scenes? Also, can I ask if you still have a postion here? TIA.
well should be interesting. Would be really cool if the group already dumped shares they added(i doubt it,) and court makes them buy them back.
At least there are real names behind it this time. thanks for the info siix appreciate it
well, I think the bhub "pirates" used fake alias' and printed fake certs to sell (from what i understand)
The UMCC "pirates" use a lawyer and implement standard laws to take possession of a BK shell, clean it up, and either bill the original company or sell it.
what kind of pirated is it?
LOL.. i don't think its that kind of "pirated".. we're good
Aviva Gordon is the custodians Atty (Pelican/Riverview), not Ultra Motorcylces, Curt is the companies Atty.
I thought the lawyers for UMCC were:
FRANK ELLIS & ASSOCIATES, LTD.
510 South Ninth Street
Las Vegas, Nevada 89101
(Clark County)
Telephone: 702-385-3727
Fax: 702-386-6826
Aviva Gordon from this firm told hDog Riverview Capital is the custodian (bankruptcy custodian?) of UMCC.
Now it's being "pirated" and was never sold?
just what i need. Another BHUB LOL
Well Stocker acquired the shell who's name I shall not speak or at least filed this form on 08/24/2006 (15:13 ET) MNET: Filed New Form 15-15D, 15d Registration Termination - Edgar (So Max 9 Months on this one I suppose)
I will try to find out the rest in a bit. Got to find when her state filing was and when that court date was but may take a little time.
Agreed. Not a bad day.
Check the chart, it looks ripe for a rebound. Three down days since the 100% one day run. Tomorrow should be green.
http://www.profitspi.com/stock-chart.aspx?id=UMCC&ca=944000930
Agreed Sherri, not a bad day at all..IMHO.
Not a bad day, especially considering all of the negative information that has come out recently. Hope we will see our RM PR this week - GLTA!
my brother bought an Ultra Groundpounder a few years back, nice bike....all motor but it was a hardtail....ouch lol.
please redirect your question to that stocks board
thanks!
How long did the court system take to resolve that issue - do you happen to know?
Looks like Ultra was doing revenues back around 2000 of about $27-$30 million a year. Looking at their site they are advertising 2007 bikes.
Move over Harley's....LOL!
I would think so, this company used to trade on NASDQ.
Looks like a fight for the shell. Could be a good thing imo..
What about the share structure? And didnt the TA confirm the OS grew from 8mil to 58mil?
I think they have had lawyers for awhile now..but im not sure. You can call and probably get more info on it for us :)
ahhhh of course plenty of $$$$ to be made with the rm, no wonder hes back.
Thanks siix for the info...the thing that doesn't add up with UMCC and the "pirated" shell is that it was activated in March, the "G" filing came last week, and only now we are hearing that their lawyers are fighting to control the shell? When we've talked to them before, it was never mentioned. I know things take time, but...am I wrong?
I would also think the shell would be considered an asset....JMHO.
Could you ask them about the recent increase in the o/s? TIA.
hahha that kid is a looser, you will prolly never see him again, what happened to your source Joeeey??
oh my, sounds like Joey is right on top of things LOL!
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