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Not sure how old this is....interesting reading
http://www.dass-solicitors.com/dass-fti.pdf
Fee, Fi, Fo, Fum.
I smell the blood of an Englishman,
Be he living, or be he dead,
I’ll grind his bones to mix my bread.
Yea! Rabble, rabble, rabble!
Dumper!
Who's the arsehole that just dumped 500k shares? Perhaps I should ask who's the goof that bought them!
This has been a slow and painful death. Haven't heard a thing on the VAT Tax issue in a year. No operations and the lawyers will probably eat up our VAT refund if it ever happens. SO - guess it's another LOSER! Hard to believe that it went from sponsoring a professional soccer team & arena to $0.0002.
OK, so maybe not Tuesday, I give up.
Who is monkeying with the stock?
TCLL Time & Sales - lol
Time Price Volume Exchange
11:05:59 0.0005 20000 OTO
11:02:47 0.0005 20000 OTO
11:01:54 0.0005 20000 OTO
11:00:29 0.0005 20000 OTO
10:59:33 0.0005 20000 OTO
10:58:56 0.0005 20000 OTO
10:58:08 0.0005 20000 OTO
10:57:19 0.0005 20000 OTO
10:55:34 0.0005 15000 OTO
10:55:31 0.0007 5000 OTO
10:52:51 0.0007 20000 OTO
10:49:30 0.0007 20000 OTO
10:48:18 0.0007 20000 OTO
10:46:52 0.0007 20000 OTO
Why TCLL will going up on next Tuesday?
Psst, don't tell anybody, TCLL is going to go up next Tuesday.
I am spamming this via PM to just some of my closest friends, so don't tell, Buckey
lol
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Fellow bagholders, unite!
amen to that Generic! A penny a share would be a HUGE move.
NV revoked in 2007, and the last action I can see was 2006
http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=tA%252bYRXa2A%252bMXokr1TDXBpw%253d%253d&nt7=0
http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/corpActions.aspx?lx8nvq=tA%252bYRXa2A%252bMXokr1TDXBpw%253d%253d&CorpName=TRICELL%2c+INC.
If there is anything going on, maybe we'll know about it some time down the line, but it's a total guess.
the premarket trade caught my eye, and clearly that's just weird.
I'm a bad liar, sorry. I did pump the stock on another board
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=62830455
is that the best you can do.
have you tried
" last day to buy at these prices!!!!!!"
"Float Locked DOWN!!!!!
" I just got off phone with CEO - reverse merger in works" with a Lithium/Silver producer and CEO owns most of float"
oh, boo! well, that says the current guys aren't interested, doesn't it?
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<pursell@tricellinc.com>
(reason: 550 No Such User Here)
----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to tricellinc.com.:
>>> DATA
<<< 550 No Such User Here
550 5.1.1 <pursell@tricellinc.com>... User unknown
<<< 503-All RCPT commands were rejected with this error:
<<< 503-No Such User Here
<<< 503 Valid RCPT command must precede DATA
TCLL to da moon!
LOL - no I just have a bad case of stuckholderitis
lunch money if it gets to a penny a share lol
U a paid promoter on this? IF so sign up to be mod LOL
It's very weird for this to trade premarket
but having follow up volume is even more strange
Time Price Volume Exchange
09:55:51 0.003 75000 OTO
09:54:35 0.003 300000 OTO
09:46:33 0.003 100000 OTO
09:38:05 0.003 50000 OTO
09:38:04 0.003 25000 OTO
09:37:51 0.003 50000 OTO
09:37:44 0.0025 25000 OTO
09:34:26 0.0019 2999 OTO
09:34:23 0.0019 50000 OTO
09:33:22 0.0017 120000 OTO
09:05:45 0.0017 25000 OTO
Traded premarket
Time Price Volume Exchange
09:05:45 0.0017 25000 OTO
04/27 0.001 125000 OTO
04/27 0.001 63200 OTO
04/27 0.0012 50000 OTO
04/27 0.0012 56800 OTO
04/27 0.001 125000 OTO
04/27 0.001 200000 OTO
04/27 0.001 500000 OTO
04/27 0.001 5000 OTO
04/26 0.0007 5000 OTO
04/26 0.0007 3500 OTO
04/25 0.0007 100000 OTO
03/23 0.0007 70000 OTO
03/14 0.0007 20000 OTO
03/03 0.0009 495000 OTO
03/03 0.0009 5000 OTO
02/10 0.0009 5000 OTO
02/04 0.0007 20000 OTO
02/04 0.0006 20000 OTO
02/01 0.0008 135000 OTO
02/01 0.0007 100000 OTO
01/31 0.0004 60000 OTO
01/31 0.0005 100000 OTO
01/31 0.0005 100000 OTO
01/31 0.0005 50000 OTO
01/31 0.0005 50000 OTO
01/31 0.0005 200000 OTO
01/21 0.0007 20000 OTO
01/21 0.0008 160000 OTO
01/21 0.0008 100000 OTO
I dont know why but I just googled map their address 6 Howard Place
Stoke-On-Trent, ummm, it sure doesn't look like a facility doing 100s of million of dollars.....
It's an easy double from .001
Just requires proper windage and elevation.
Can anyone find anything on the The Wells Group, Inc. or the Guardline Group?
I googled them and it takes me to different companies other than phone...
ricell International, the trading subsidiary, supplies and distributes mobile telephones, telephone accessories and electronic commodities in Europe and Asia. Tricell Distribution, the U.K. logistics and support division, supply airtime and hardware to the dealer network and call centers throughout the U.K. Tricell Distribution has recently completed the Virtual Service Provision License agreement with Vodafone and the Guardline Group. Contact: The Wells Group, Inc. ( www.tricellinc.com )
I can't find tho old website anymore, it takes you to another company.......
I think this is history
Can anyone shed any light on the current situation? It's been months if not years since anything of value was posted (at least valued from a positive perspective). I've been riding this dead horse for so long that I wish someone would just put a bullet in it and end the misery.
Can you explain is this mean that they will Appeal court?
N2J Ltd v HMRC
Chancery Division, 3 June 2009
N2J was refused zero-rating of certain goods that
it thought had been exported. HMRC denied that
there was any evidence of export and N2J was
unable to persuade the Tribunal that the goods
had in fact left the UK.
N2J attacked the Tribunal’s decision on several
grounds:
• that the Tribunal had concentrated on
whether N2J had taken steps to avoid being
involved with fraudulent transactions, when HMRC
had at no point accused N2J of fraud;
• that the Tribunal had not explicitly found that
the goods had not been exported;
• that a CMR consignment notice (which in this
case stated that the goods had been exported)
was conclusive evidence of the facts stated on its
face; and
• that once HMRC had accepted a CMR as valid
it could not later refuse to acknowledge its validity.
The Judge rejected all of these arguments.
The Tribunal had concluded that the goods had
not been exported and that was determinative of
the case, unless an incorrect CMR was conclusive
evidence, which under established law it was not
(see R (oao Teleos plc & others) v CCE Case C-
409/04 [2007] ECR I-7797).
http://www.theiit.org.uk/ITV109.pdf
http://www.taxjournal.com/tj/articles/vat-focus-vat-and-human-rights
In the recent case of N2J Limited v Commissioners of HMRC 20895 [2008] (which is being complained to the ECHR), the Manchester Tribunal made no enquiry it seems into the probative evidence of the specific supply chain evidence, and ignored evidence in front of it that the taxpayer was taking some precautions. There was no carefully crafted balancing exercise as set out by the CJEU, which had also not placed all of the burden of proof of export on the taxpayer. The Manchester Tribunal, using a case concerning the liability of biscuits (Kalron Foods Ltd v Revenue and Customs Commissioners [2007] SRC 1100), felt able to do so without reasoning or authority. The arbitrariness of the Tribunal, the omission to consider the evidence and make wrong statements of fact and in particular the lack of lawfulness in the failure to apply the formulation set out by a court of final instance (see for example Immobiliare Saffi v Italy, Application No 22774/93 (2000) 30 EHHR 756) could amount to a convention violation of Article 1 to Protocol 1.
( Seems Tricell going to European Court Of Appeal? )
This article came out Nov 1st 2010, not saying it pertains to the TCLL court case it just explains what happen to a lot of shady mobile phone companies.
Not hearing anything from TCLL management leads me to believe that where's there's smoke there's fire.
It seems they ran for the hills and left us with an emty shell or we would of had some communication after the last 8k which talked about the legal team that was going to fight for TCLL.
IMO
Missing Trader Intra Community Fraud (VAT Carousel Fraud)
Value Added Tax or VAT as it is more commonly referred to is an indirect taxation of the goods and services that we all have to buy. As a percentage of the sales value, some 17.5% in the UK rising to 20% in 2011, it represents many billions of revenue for the tax authorities. Yet in recent years it has been a prime target for the fraudsters. As with any fraud, it is not possible to say exactly how much revenue is being lost at any particular time, certainly the authorities are loath to admit the full extent of the amounts stolen from them. Some commentators put the losses to the European economy in the range of several hundred billion pounds every year – yes a multiple of £100,000,000,000!
There has been much written on the subject of VAT fraud, particularly Missing Trader Intra Community fraud – but what is it? Put simply, it is an opportunity for fraudsters to claim back fictitious VAT from the authorities. The system of VAT involves a trader charging VAT to customers that they sell to. Those customers in turn charge VAT to their customers, while offsetting this with the VAT they pay to suppliers. Thus, the tax is on the profit element of a trade.
The problem arises at the start and end of any chain of trading activities – and is a result of the concessions that arise within the European Community that remove the need for VAT obligations to arise between member states. A fraudster can exploit the system in the following way:
A company in Spain has a batch of goods to sell – these are sold to an importer in the UK. The UK importer sells the goods to another UK company who then re-exports the goods to Hong Kong. The UK importer buys the goods from Europe free of VAT. He adds VAT within the UK to his invoice when he sells to the next UK company. The second UK company must pay this VAT to the importer. The second UK company now re-exports the goods free of VAT abroad – either to Europe or the rest of the world.
If this series of transactions was legitimate, the VAT charged by the importer to the second UK company would be paid over to HMRC. The second UK company would then reclaim this VAT back itself. These would be the only two VAT transactions and they would cancel each other out as far as the authorities are concerned. Because the goods were imported then exported, there would be no net VAT benefit to the UK authorities who are only collecting the tax on the basis that it is on the goods and services that are used within the UK.
However, if the importer defaults on paying the tax – by disappearing or becoming insolvent – yet the second UK company still collects the tax it has paid to the importer, the UK tax system will be out of pocket. This is at its simplest how MTIC frauds work. In practice, the goods may go through a chain of many buffer traders within the UK, or the goods may be fictitious in the first place. There are many more complex variations on the fraud, which essentially targets the huge amounts of VAT that are payable on goods and services.
Mark Jenner & Co has experience in dealing with MTIC VAT frauds for both the fraud regulators, for companies targeted by HMRC for extended verification procedures and for white collar crimes being prosecuted for the fraud. The problem seems to have been that the fraud was very easy to commit on a vast scale. Fraudsters realised that if they claimed some fictitious VAT they could get away with it and developed various different schemes for doing so. Then they realised that there was little need for any effort – simply make the fictitious transactions bigger!
The classic badges of MTIC fraud seem to be a small company that within a year or so is turning over many £millions. During an enquiry for Companies Investigation Branch recently it could be seen that the target company was trading with various other companies that showed this phenomenal growth – for example a company set up in one year had a turnover of £50,000. The next year the turnover reached £1,200,000 and the following year £13,500,000. It is very unlikely that any company could show this sort of growth naturally – but if you are fabricating the invoices, why not? Many companies investigated by HMRC for VAT fraud that were supposedly turning over many £tens of millions each month turned out to be nothing but a computer in the culprit’s bedroom!
The problem that HMRC had during the early part of the decade – i.e. around 2000 to 2006, was that there was a massive growth in the mobile phone business. MTIC fraudsters like mobile phones because they are small and valuable – and can be traded without warehouses and other serious logistics. Within the “official” trade between manufacturers and approved distributors, a substantial “grey” market in phones also grew. This was a legitimate business in itself, but was quickly exploited by the fraudsters until the size of the “grey industry” was apparently bigger than the total global trade of mobile phones altogether. When HMRC realised how big their losses probably were, with typical traders claiming back £10/£20 millions and more each month in recoverable VAT, in 2005 and 2006, they simply stopped any repayments pending “extended verification enquiries”. This probably meant that a number of legitimate traders suffered, but the fraudsters were in a position whereby they could not trade any more until they had been properly investigated by HMRC. These investigations turned into criminal enquiries in many cases, and the UK courts are still seeing prosecutions dating back to this time being processed.
The authorities attempted to curb abuse of VAT fraud in this way by reversing the VAT charge on certain goods. This means that the buyer not the seller pays the VAT on the trade of typical MTIC goods such as mobile phones and computer parts. HMRC’s information sheet VAT 08/07 provides information regarding the payment of VAT in relation to these products. The trouble was that the tenacious fraudster simply switched his attention to different goods, that still were accounted for in the old way – these could include any goods that are traded – but in order to build up big profits, the VAT thieves always will look at high value easily moved items that can be dealt with without the need for substantial business infrastructures – certain pharmaceuticals/cosmetics, spectacles and associated products, high value spirits and even trading in carbon credits have all been targeted by the fraudsters, together with any other product that can be traded and exported – including clothing, furniture, household products, fabrics etc etc.
The only secure solution would appear to be a complete change in the VAT system.
TCLL heard anything?
Any update on tcll?
Salt was licked.