Tesla Inc (TSLA)

[Nostradamus2012]

Good points, but when $urvival depends on these new adaptations$ it will happen in no time....
$$$ZTSLA$$$

[georgejjl]

Expect over 200 million shares of TSLA to be bought today!!!

Good luck and GOD bless,

[boston745]

Anyone know how itd be possible for Tesla to "license" FSD? Wouldnt that require a suite of cameras and computer HW too? Not a simple software license but requires extensive hardware and vehicle redesign/reconfigure to incorporate the new hardware? Thus licensing FSD requires years of pre-work before anything can move forward assuming FSD is considered safe enough for a major auto player to even want to move forward.

[boston745]

lasts over 500k miles

In theory yes but its a crap shoot if that will be your experience in reality. Theres plenty of stories of people have to replace their batteries under warranty or just as it expires. This is in part due to EM radiation causing dendrite buildup in batteries.

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Surface electromagnetic fields, like whats seen during auroras, interact with lithium batteries causing abnormal dendrite buildup like seen in Arizona Battery plant fire in 2019. That abnormal dendrite growth can pierce battery separators leading to a short and thermal runaway.

Thermoelectric current causes asymmetric growth pattern of dendrites.

thermoelectromagnetic convection occurs in the vicinity of the solid-liquid interface, and vortices are generated between dendritic arms. It is shown that the thermoelectromagnetic convection has a major influence on dendritic morphology.

Cells taken at random from elsewhere in the battery system, and from its twin system at Festival Ranch, showed “lithium metal deposition and abnormal dendritic growth,” DNV GL notes.

"Because the evidence of Lithium metal deposition and abnormal dendritic growth was sufficiently present in the random samples that were analyzed, it was determined to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty to be the anomaly that caused the initial cell failure and ensuing thermal runaway," battery safety expert Davion Hill wrote in the APS report.

Quote Source #1&2
Multi-physics simulation of dendritic growth in magnetic field assisted solidification

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S001793101930225X

Quote Source #3
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.greentechmedia.com/amp/article/lg-chem-battery-cell-mcmicken-arizona-fire

[rolvram]

Tesla 3 is $299/month
Never changed battery since 2018, lasts over 500k miles

[ZenNavigator54]

EV trucks for long haul commutes is not practical

[boston745]

Consider having to replace your tires 1-2 times per year instead once every 5 years or so. EVs pollute more and cost more due to excessive tire wear.


Electric vehicles release more toxic emissions, are worse for the environment than gas-powered cars: study

Electric vehicles release more toxic particles into the atmosphere and are worse for the environment than their gas-powered counterparts, according to a resurfaced study.

The study, published by emissions data firm Emission Analytics, was released in 2022 but has attracted a wave of attention this week after being cited in a Wall Street Journal op-ed Sunday.

It found that brakes and tires on EVs release 1,850 times more particle pollution compared to modern tailpipes, which have “efficient” exhaust filters, bringing gas-powered vehicles’ emissions to new lows.

Today, most vehicle-related pollution comes from tire wear.

Electric vehicles are often heavier than regular gas-powered cars due to the weight of their engines, which can reach 1,850 pounds. The heavier engines place extra weight on the tires and cause them to wear out faster, according to the study. A 1,100-pound engine can cause more than 400 times the emissions as direct exhaust emissions.

Particle pollution from tires is the biggest contributor to vehicle-related emissions.

I have a hard time believing its simply weight that causes EVs to go through tires at, sometimes, an excessive pace. They are not that much heavier to cause the vehicles to go through tires in as little as 5k miles. My guess is it has something to do with the EM radiation that comes off EVs coupled with the metals in the tires.

“But you have this downside of EVs that increases particle pollution. Air pollution is about what we breathe and the health effects,” Molden said, assuring that the toxins in tires have much less impact on climate change than they do on “what we eat and are ingesting.”

Increased exposure to these toxins “can increase the risk of health problems like heart disease, asthma, and low birth weight,” according to the New York Department of Health, which noted that pollution from sources including vehicle exhaust can travel long distances from its source and still cause health issues at unhealthy levels.

“A lot of it [chemicals] goes into the soil and water, affecting animals and fish. And we then go and eat the animals and fish, so we are ingesting tire pollution,” Molden added.

New tires every 7,000 miles? Electric cars save gas but tire wear shocks some Florida drivers

But after less than 5,000 miles of driving around his Boca Raton neighborhood, Semel was shocked to find some essential — and very expensive — parts were already wearing out. The tires. “If somebody looked at me and said, Mr. Semel, you are going to love this car but in about 7,000 miles you will have to pay 1,400 or 1,500 dollars to replace the tires, I wouldn’t have bought the car,” Semel said. For many drivers of EVs in Florida — the nation’s second largest market for electrical vehicles — premature tire wear has become an unexpected black mark on vehicles promoted as a green climate-friendly option to gas-gulping cars.

At EV Garage Miami, a Sweetwater repair shop that services 90 percent electric vehicles, lead technician Jonathan Sanchez said tires are the most frequent thing customers come in about — no matter what model or make of EV they’re driving. Tire mileage can vary widely of course, but he said he frequently changes EV tires at just 8,000 to 10,000 miles — a fourth or even fifth of typical tire wear on a gas-burning car.

Not even better for the environment. The level of the con game associated with Tesla is crazy.

Quote Sources:
https://nypost.com/2024/03/05/business/evs-release-more-toxic-emissions-are-worse-for-the-environment-study/
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/climate-change/article284533695.html

[ZenNavigator54]

EV cars were not technically feasible and possible prior to 2010 all you had was EV protypes but the cars were not practical in mass production as it was too expensive. an unpractical

[ZenNavigator54]

why is the gov't even giving rebates. it's just increases price.

[ZenNavigator54]

and because interest rate has gone up from 0% to 8% for financing that $500/monthe car payment is now $1500 the 10% who can affford a new EV car has bought one. 80% cannot afford even a new $25000 EV car let a lone a cheap %50,000 EV car where the battery cost $15000 and needs to be replaced in 5 years

[ZenNavigator54]

problem with EV cars isn't that EV cars are bad, it's just too expensive. it cost $50,000 to buy a new CHEAP EV car.
ICE car 10 year ago you can get new car for $20000

[boston745]

Coroner identifies semi-truck driver killed in wreck on I-75 southbound in Scott County

Officials tell LEX 18 that several other crashes occurred after traffic stopped, including one involving a sheriff's deputy and an emergency management worker. The deputy says he was closing the road when he noticed a Tesla that wasn't slowing down and warned the worker.

According to officials, the deputy and emergency management worker narrowly got out of the way before the car crashed into the cruiser and smashed into the EMA trailer. The deputy was taken to the hospital with minor injuries, and the driver of the vehicle that crashed suffered serious injuries.

"We owe this guy a dinner because he was flashing his flashlight at the driver, blowing the whistle, doing everything possible to try and get that other driver's attention," said emergency management director Michael Hennigan.

Hennigan said that the driver of the Tesla never applied their brakes or swerved before crashing into the emergency vehicles. The sheriff's office will investigate that crash, he said.

Was the Tesla driver on Autopilot asleep? Where was Tesla automatic emergency braking? How come despite attempts to get the drivers attention or even the cars, nothing changed?

34. Apr 23 (38.160912, -84.534865)
https://www.lex18.com/news/i-75-southbound-in-scott-county-shut-down-due-to-multiple-collisions

[Dantheoneman]

Shorts are getting Recked! WOW

[Agoura Guy]

DUMP THIS CRAP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!

I'M TELLING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

[power11]

GO AHEAD...BACK UP THE TRUCK !! WHAT A BUY !!

[Bountiful_Harvest]

Interesting timing... Ms Wood has a long history trading TSLA.

[rolvram]

https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tesla-nears-full-self-driving-fsd-licensing-deal-with-major-automaker/

[rolvram]

Elon: We are in talks about FSD licensing with one major auto manufacturer

[DiscoverGold]

Cathie Wood & Ark Invest's Buys 29,230 Shares of Tesla Inc. (TSLA)
By: Ark Invest Daily | April 23, 2024

• Cathie Wood and Ark Invest's trade activity from today 4/23.



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[georgejjl]

That was the high during after hours trading but the close of after hour trading was $163.96 which was too bad. It was up $19.28 for the day.

Hopefully, the share price of TSLA will continue to go up from $163.96 tomorrow.

Good luck and GOD bless,

[JJ8]

Is that true George? Tesla share at $216.80?

I hope so.

If true, my Port will leap for joy. And I will celebrate. I am doubtful until I see my Account tomorrow, lol.

Cheers & GLTA

[boston745]

While Cash/equiv dropped 4.7B, Cash, equivs, investments only dropped 2.2B. Thus about 2.5B of that 4.7b drop was invested. Still 2.2billion drop is significant and a large departure from previous trajectory. That coupled with Tesla cutting prices further doesnt look healthy.
Current bounce is technical in nature not based on anything real.

[georgejjl]

TSLA After-Hours High $216.8 (04:56:18 PM)

Good luck and GOD bless,

[DailyX]

Moonward tommorrow thanks shorts for the rocket this week!.!.!.!

[DailyX]

This is pointed straight up! After hours! Wait tell the bears cover or some may get a margin call. Looking forward to getting into the $180 channel soon.

[Vexxed]

Lmao all the bears getting rekt. Prepare for short squeeze tomorrow!

[georgejjl]

Tesla Earnings Fall To Lowest Since 2021. Tesla Stock Surges Late On 'Affordable' EV.

https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-earnings-fall-tesla-stock-surges/?src=A00220

Good luck and GOD bless,

[boston745]

BANKRUPTCY ISN'T LIKELY FOR TESLA BUT THE ODDS ARE GROWING
Two new factories are operating at less than 50% of capacity. Massive capital investments plus vertical integration plus falling sales plus no new models (other than the Frankenstein-mobile) = huge cash burn. FSD at Level 2 autonomy remains well behind competitors and isn't remotely capable of running a robotaxi system.

In this excellent piece, the invaluable (for Tesla shorts) Motorhead walks through how and why it might happen, comparing Tesla to other CAR COMPANIES who've gone bust. He recommends Tesla do a $100 billion equity raise to hold them over the next ~ 3-4 years until they might have new product.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/joseph-bohrer-6b9786_could-tesla-go-bankrupt-the-odds-are-rising-activity-7187083286215557120-Npqo


Most of this article is exaggerations but the part about Teslas business model being dependent on growth is true. Without continued growth, Teslas fixed costs will eat away at its margins. The downside of having everything in house.

He finds fault in Tesla's business model, which he says is dependent on robust revenue growth, integrating vertically to capture profits from car sales, and directly selling cars to consumers.

"That is a brilliant model when [there's] growth … because you actually get paid for growing and you capture all the margin. The problem is, when you go into reverse and sales go down, it also goes in reverse," Lekander said, noting that Tesla was now faced with paying its fixed costs and negative working capital, a situation where liabilities exceed a business's income and assets.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/tesla-stock-price-crash-bubble-bear-outlook-demand-per-lekander-2024-4

[boston745]

Thats significant cash outflow Q1 for Tesla, about 4.7B. IT appears this is mostly due to the significant drop in cash from operations. Tesla keeps burning at this rate its going to have to do an offering this year. Cash burn rates have to be a major reason why Tesla has pulled back on trying to expand. You can see why Tesla needs this technical pump to distract the masses from that cash burn.


https://i.imgur.com/opQ6a2j.png

https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001318605/000095017024046895/tsla-20240423.htm

[chklingon]

So... normally at earning call, the stock drops as all the good news is baked in before the call. It has dropped now for a long time as the market bakes in the bad news. Why is anyone surprised at the rise. The market is "suppose" to be a "leading" indicator. The MSM FUD about Tesla was very successful at it job for the Wall Street insiders.
As a long I only want to know that Tesla is making progress on moving forward. They are.
Let the traders do what they do day to day.

[tnc26]

Terrible earnings from every aspects of the business and the stock is up Ah oh because they said oh they going to push the other sector faster? Give me a break , I'll bet it will open lower tomorrow. Jist look at their earnings, competition is getting tighter and their bottom revenues will continue to go down as they will continue cutting prices.
Even at $90 adjusted split is still dam too expensive...

[Agoura Guy]

ELON MUSK IS A CON ARTIST..... HE SURE SUCKS IN A LOT OFF GULLIBLE FOOLS DURING HIS BS EARNINGS CALLS!!!!!!!!

INSTITUTIONS WILL DUMP ALL OVER IDIOTS TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!

SUCKERS!!!!!!!!

[PENNY DIPZ]

Ok

[JJ8]

Moonlazer: it's good to see you happy to have used your technical knowledge in the challenge of connecting the important dots to follow in the Tesla share price trajectory over longer times.

Seeing the larger picture in the journey of share price to pin point important junctures for timely buying and selling is the challenge for all investors/traders.

You deserve feeling good about it. While we hope to see share price improve in coming months.

Congrats & Cheers

[boston745]

Tesla profits drop 55%, company says EV sales ‘under pressure’ from hybrids

Tesla profits fell 55% to $1.13 billion in the first quarter from the same year-ago period as a protracted EV price-cutting strategy and “numerous challenges” cut into the automaker’s bottom line.

Tesla reported revenue of $21.3 billion in the first quarter, a 9% drop from the first quarter of 2023. Analysts polled by Yahoo Finance expected earnings of $0.51 per share on $22.15 billion in revenue. Tesla reported operating income of $1.2 billion in the first quarter, a 54% decrease from the same year-ago period.

The company said in its Q1 earnings report that it experienced “numerous challenges” in the first quarter, including the Red Sea conflict and the arson attack at Gigafactory Berlin and the gradual ramp of the updated Model 3 at its factory in Fremont, California. Tesla also noted that global EV sales continue to be under pressure as many carmakers prioritize hybrids over EVs. On the upside, that hybrid approach has meant automakers continue to buy regulatory credits; Tesla earned $442 million in the first quarter.

Those challenges are not what caused Tesla to sell significantly fewer cars. Inventory grew over 40k to over 140k end of Q1 so obviously not a production issue. New models that supposedly helped this pop the Model 3 Highland or other updated versions of its current vehicles that incorporate aspects of Model 2 assemblies? Thats nothing to be overly bullish about. Robotaxi is nothing to be overly bullish about either as FSD is a long way from being used for anything other than testing in a few cities. Testing in cities will equate to greater R&D burn and legal costs associated with accidents.
Looks like they are trying to control the narrative by utilizing a technical breakout to take focus away from Teslas dimming future.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/23/tesla-profits-drop-55-company-says-ev-sales-under-pressure-from-hybrids/

Tesla = a fake it until it makes it scam that is putting the greater public in danger....worldwide.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174085276

[Moonlazer]

And I was spot on, as the main baseline inched upward from this original post.

So calling Jan 2023 bottom, last summer's top, and now this bottom.

3 for 3. See you all above 200 by January 2025.

[Moonlazer]

Technical analysis doesn't lie.

[Moonlazer]

Called this bottom months ago

[Agoura Guy]

SCAM, FRAUD, HYPE.... TOTAL BS!!!!!!!

AH'S PUMP ON ***WORDS***!!!!!!!!!!!

TERRIBLE EARNINGS REPORT!!!!!!!!!

[boston745]

Wasnt smart summon something they released years ago?

[boston745]

what new models & when?

[$Green$]

All time lowest COGS

[rolvram]

Expecting to build 3M cars at current capacity

[$Green$]

Yup closing that gap to $161 tomorrow!

[rolvram]

Smart Summon

via
@YouTube
$TSLA summon now on your Tesla App.
This is 100% autonomous driving since no human is in the car when it drives to you

[rolvram]

Tesla to launch new models ahead of planned timeline, shares jump
16:31:45 PM ET, 04/23/2024 - Reuters
(Add background in paragraphs 2-3)

April 23 (Reuters) - Tesla said on Tuesday it had pulled forward the launch of new models from the second half of 2025, sending its shares up nearly 7% in after-hours trading.

"This update may result in achieving less cost reduction than previously expected but enables us to prudently grow our vehicle volumes in a more capex efficient manner during uncertain times," the electric vehicle maker said.

Tesla did not elaborate on pricing of the new vehicles.

Reuters reported earlier that Tesla had canceled its long-promised inexpensive model that Chief Executive Elon Musk in January had predicted would be available in late 2025. The news organization reported that Tesla continues to develop robotaxis on the same small-vehicle platform.

Global growth in demand for EVs has eased, with sales expanding at lower-than-expected rates due to reductions in state subsidies and high interest rates.

[Vexxed]

Lmao keep waiting for 25$ pleb

[huka]

Share price may be $25 by then

[Prudent Capitalist]

Interesting reaction to earnings AH with TSLA shares up strongly, in spite of the negative numbers. TSLA fell short of street estimates, reported its first decrease in revenue ever, and reported negative free cash flow, but TSLA shares are up for one reason hidden in the release.........The announcement that TSLA will be bringing out a new cheaper and more affordable model in 2nd half of 2025.

[Prudent Capitalist]

-Tesla Reports Q1 EPS of $0.45 on Revenue of $21.3 Billion, vs CIQ Analyst Consensus of $0.50/Share on Revenue of $22.3 Billion

04:05 PM EDT, 04/23/2024 (MT Newswires) --