TNSB Group Inc. (fka TNSB)

[Churak]

TNSB has been removed from my holdings by TD OUTHOUSE. This is what it said...ie DFNCT...lol...wasn't aware something can get defkd...I mean, once you're fkd, you're fkd...right?


03 Jan 2019 03 Jan 2019
TNSB GROUP INC *
DFNCT -15,000 - - $0.00

[Holdingprofits]

Lol. Everyone in on the 24th got the dividend. End of story.

[Churak]

Got my .0365/share. TD OUTHOUSE (Canada)treated it as a Return of Capital ie ROC so no withholding tax. Now...is the ticker delisted since no one, not even iHub has a quote nor recognizes the ticker?

[SecretMillionaire]

If you were not shareholder on ex div date you don’t get it. And it goes directly to your broker. Auto
Deposit. Anything otherwise is lip service. Won’t haooen which actually was lip service all the way
Here I. Regard to my requests for supporting evidence of an end game

[Churak]

this thing is dead...finito...kaput...no one is giving quotes on TNSB ie not OTCMARKETS, not TD, not iHub...no one...looks like ticker has been struck and is not eligible for trading...

[XxStockEaterxX]

Just got off the phone with TDA. YES we will receive our .0365 per share this week.

[SecretMillionaire]

To answer your last question, the shares are cancelled. Not even an empty shell. Which is why I said earlier, "I'm not sure what this is." That it wasn't even an empty shell. That it was a "lesser of something". That's why I said earlier, nobody is buying Transbotics, right? Scotts bought Transbotics.

It was a zombie ticker after the ex-dividend date, which is the only way I can think to describe it. There is no definition. In fact, all definitions surround this stock were categories, not true to their surface or implied meaning -- Confusion. I like it though. This better than dividend capturing. I hope to see something like this before the ex-div date. Maybe one of those many non-reporting, buyer-beware stocks that have potential to be bought this way one day in the future.

This is why you need to look for alignment of interests. It's a case where a beneficiary need only not speak up. Just let the facts run the course and his prey be confused. Very, very interesting. Like a Venus Fly Trap.

[SecretMillionaire]

And the legal name change was for a legal purpose. I don't know. That's why I emphasized that this was a name change and not a ticker change, asing for supporting evidence for a future use of this ticker. It really doesn't matter what the legal purpose was. I'm sure it was for something relevant in the whole process, but I don't know all the fine details. The macro world is where I live, not the micro world.

[SecretMillionaire]

That's not what a date or record is. It's very confusing. The only reason I know is because I used to dabble in dividend capturing in the '90s. But it's too volatile a strategy and not worth it since too many other #$@holes were trying to do the same thing, creating too much volatility that would whipe out the dividend in that short window of time when where it mattered.

You have to be a shareholder at minimum the day before the "ex dividend" date. That was a few months ago as I recall. The date of record is when the company looks at its books to see who was a shareholder on the "ex dividend" date.

You could go in one day before and leave one day after the ex-dividend date to capture that dividend with certainty. Calling it closer is too close for comfort. Or really 2 days before. I don't remember because its' compounded confusion by the fact that there is a "settlement period" from the time you actually "buy" and the time your buy is actually bought on the record. That's where the records are going to come from on record date. The 27th, taking your word for it, will be when those on the record (shareholders on the ex-dividend date) will be paid. Not those on the 24th, UNLESS they were there from atleast the time of the ex-dividend date.

Somebody here was compolaining that TD America canelled there order. They might want to thank them instead. The reason it might have been cancelled is because of the settlement date. When they saw it "bought" it really wasn't bought. It never really is. There is a settlement phase. The book transaction hadn't happened yet. And how could it if the shares got cancelled just after he "bought" but before it settled? So he is mad when he shouldn't be, if I understand his gripe correctly.

And to add to the layers of confusion here, which is why so many seem to have gotten burned, is that this payout is not even really a dividend, which implies recurring. It just following the rules of a dividend, but it's a final liquidation. The payoff from being bought by Scott's, hence the liquidation of the shares. Which is why I asked in mu first post, how can you be bought and not have your shares cancelled? Well, this is an unorthodox answer to that question. It all makes sense now.

IFFF memory serves correctly, I think this stock soared prior to the x dividend date. I would suspect some person(s) intentially created confusion around that date, so they are gegging the payout, plus all of your pipedreams. Another case of manipulation. And it is confusion. Somebody capitalized on that confusion. It's very confusing. Especially when your focus is on Transbotics, which is where the originator of the confusion wanted your focus. Like a magician, keep your eye on this hand, not that one. That part is speculation, and I can't review where the ex-dividend date was to be certain, but that's what I feel like happened. Which is also why I said in my first post (or second), this seems too good to be true. Which made me look harder. Because the story as it was being told was good. And believable due to the confusion of this "dividend."

[Churak]

I'm pretty certain shareholders as of 24th get nothing

When it appeared on the DAILY LIST, this is what it said:

Record Date 12/24/2018 00:00:00

That means that you had to have held it on the 24th in order to get the dividend.

Effective/Ex Date/Time 12/28/2018 00:00:00

This means that it trades without entitlement to the dividend 28.12.18. Pay date was supposed to be the 27th.

What I'd like to know is are the shares cancelled or is this just another zombie ticker or a shell? Like a previous poster said, why would someone, anyone, go to the expense of changing the name of the corp just to have the ticker cancelled? Maybe it was part of the deal when Scott bot Transbotics...who knows...it ain't clear IMHO

[SecretMillionaire]

I'm pretty certain shareholders as of 24th get nothing. As I recall, there was an ex-dividend date that was confusing people here. I believe that was much earlier, wasn't it? I seem to recall it was a few months ago, but I may be wrong. You had to be a shareholder on that date to get the payout. It was semantics to call it a "dividend." So, anyone on that date would have benefited by creatign confusion around it, getting a payout plus money for a ticker of no value. And it was confusing by the way it was presented, and I feel like many were sincerely confused.

I don't believe deliberate deception for some, but for others, I believe it was intentional. Being the good judge of character I am, I'm sure i could separated the sinerely deluded from the charlatans into two stacks and have a 95% accuracy rate. But, I won't go there. I'll just say Mr. Holdings was sincere and I feel bad it didn't work otu for him. He had some good DD. I wish I was here sooner, but I dont' believe he would have listened. People tune out if they don't get what they want to hear, and Fox News capitalizes on this. They have a target target market for their agenda, and they are going to feed you the twinkie diet. Not many people get the nutrition for critical thinking they need these days. If you go to church, you probably were invested here. You definitely aren't getting your critical thinking skills there.

I see that the ticker is alrady removed at OTC, so I can't even look up that ex-dividend date. That falls under unintended consequences again. It's more like a category. The market cap was a flawed calculation based on outdate data; the "ex-dividend" language more like a category because no better place to put it. It's a strange way to be bought.

Well, you can always follow me and know you're getting the truth. However, truth is repugnant to most. I don't work for Fox News or Mr. Market. I don't follow bad orders. But it requires patience, and if you think you have that, you probably don't. It also won't likely adhere to your moral code, especially if you go to church. But that's because you believe in lies and your life is a lie. Live and learn.

Like I said in a few post below, it was nto a ticker change. It was a name change. That was for an unknown legal reason, and now we know what that reason was. It was not in alignment with your interests. Like I said. What I say usually comes out in the shake, but usually not this fast. It gets forgotten and buried. Next time you see me, it would be wise to listen. But you won't really "see" me. You'll just have to see me. I'll be shot by the authorties before long for violating low-level invalid, bad orders. At least, an attempted assasination, but it will fail. The reality is that I'll just get lost from their cross heirs, and you'll just have to search to find me again. Those that know me can see.

[SecretMillionaire]

So I was right again. Shares cancelled, liquidation for old shareholders. Company was bought; it was not a dual listing.

It's amazing how far simple logic can take someone in life. Just because you don't like what you hear, don't tune out. This isn't Fox News. This is real life. Truth doesn't care about your agendas. Truth just comes out in the shake. Always. So, it pays to be right. Truth is not voted on. Truth can't be deleted. Truth prevails. Period. Capiche?

[Holdingprofits]

Lmao! Dilution?

[TrendTrade2016]

U mean right. This stock is dead money. Its going nowhere fast. Dilution is coming

[Due Diligence Virtuoso]

Your just rude. The stock was not trading for a few days, and I posted that is was now trading. Then you got all condescending w me. Not cool bro.

[TrendTrade2016]

No one likes callers that’s why I’m extra loud

[Churak]

It's the opposite with me...I'm rude to them cause they are morons...tried to buy something that was .68 bid & never traded. Put in an online order for $2.50. Much to my surprise, the order takes. 20 min later it shows "Pending Cancel". They then call me to tell me the order got rejected. I ask why? They say that my price was too far off the bid. I say the .68 never filled. They tell me to re-enter the order at the last traded price. I say it's never traded. They say to try .68. I say but the .68 is not getting filled. Silence.

[TrendTrade2016]

What’s your point?

[XxStockEaterxX]

If you were holding on the 24th you will receive .0365 per share. Think it was a glitch that it resumed trading for 3 hrs today. Ticker will be deleted tomorrow unfortunately. No clue what happened here and may never know. I loaded hard at .036 for the payout, then sold today. If it goes as planned, I basically doubled my money here. If not, welp got my money back. Otcx I'm guessing otcx was short and bidding today so luckily absorbed my shares

[Renee]

I fired TD Outhouse a decade ago because they were constantly rude to me.
When I moved my entire portfolio to another user-friendly Brokerage they all of a sudden got kissy kissy. Too late for this firey Lass.

[Churak]

Less 15% withholding tax to Canuckleheads...or 25% or 30% depending on what kind of mood TD is in

[Renee]

Well, mon ami, if you are one of the 'lucky' shareholders then TD Outhouse must pay out 3.65 cents per share.

[Churak]

TD OUTHOUSE in Canada no longer recognizes the ticker TNSB

[Renee]

It simply means that holding shareholders will receive .0365 cents per share. I have no idea if that means shareholders are screwed or they landed the holy grail.

[PutYourBigBoyPantsOn]

Does that mean all TNSB shareholders are screwed?

[Due Diligence Virtuoso]

Better question is what is the point of your response?

[TrendTrade2016]

Okay. Your point?

[Due Diligence Virtuoso]

It is trading now.

[Renee]

TNSB: effective Dec. 28,2018 Liquidation Final Distribution of .0365. FINRA will delete the symbol.

http://otce.finra.org/DLDividendsDistributionsSplit (on Dec. 21 list)

http://otce.finra.org/DLDeletions

[XxStockEaterxX]

On the daily list today in the notes it mentions "Transfer books closed" They sometimes do this during a dividend period. After that goes into effect they automatically have less than 60 days to resume trading. Check it out, Google it, whatever. Feeling much better on this play now!

[TrendTrade2016]

no trades for days...ouch....you were warned!!

[makinezmoney]

$TNSB: Ready to Rolll


Capiche ?

If you don't get it, move along.... Capiche.


Filing issued to rename identity and direction moving forward, Capiche ?


If thats not Kosher with you that Scotts has control over TNSB-Group
then thats a problem with you, not the corporate stucture... Capiche.


Pretty sure there are other tickers out there that are more
structured out there to your liking.


THe Filing issued last and more coming forward, stand for themselves.


GO $TNSB

[SecretMillionaire]

No it’s not a dual listing. Scott trading in nz and otc
Would be a dual listing. This was a bought company
It has not been spun off.

What you have is conjecture. Again I ask for supporting
Evidence of your claim. If there is an end game here
I need to see evidence. So far you have given lip
Service. I need supporting evidence. Capiche?

[makinezmoney]

$TNSB: Name change to TNSB-Group... more filings to come

You don't just issue a filing cuz you wanna change a name.


If they wanted to change a name, theres no need to issue a filing.

Unless of course, you are listed (here we have a dual listing) and
you have additional followup filings.


As it stands... TNSB will operate as a publicly traded US Listing as
a subsidiary to Scott Automation.


Nothing at all unusual about it.


Many Conglomerates also operate under the same premise.



GO $TNSB

[SecretMillionaire]

Nothing on finra filings supercede your flawed market cap.

Nothing on finra invalidates anything I said here

[Due Diligence Virtuoso]

Yes it has a stop sign! I think everyone in the trade is aware. That is placed there for lack of filings. AKA not being current. However the company has been active on Firna w corporate actions. That information supersedes any stop sign.

[SecretMillionaire]

You should go with the facts and not some random dude.
The problem is not the facts. It’s the receiving end of the facts

Facts don’t speak for themselves. They just be interpreted in the
Light of theory. Your regulated reputable site also says
Beware. Don’t trust the data. Again they have good intentions
But that is just a computer generated calculation.

Garbage in. Garbage out.

[Due Diligence Virtuoso]

Should I listen to some random dude w negative comments? "you". or Should I trust what is in print on a regulated website? Need not answer that question. Have a great day!

[SecretMillionaire]

That is inaccurate. Which is why it probably shouldn’t be on
Otc. It’s misleading in the context you are interpreting. I can
See how that is an unintended consequence of their mission
At otc. But that’s is a calculation based on faulty info.

Garbage in garbage out. That calculation is always updated
So I think they should remove that. Good intentions but can be
Misapplied. The other numbers there would be updated by a transfer
Agent which they are not. And those can be trusted. Your number
Is a calculation from old dafa.

[Due Diligence Virtuoso]

Share Holders, if you watched last Fridays trading, it was evident that OTCX was not able to cover on the bid... Looks like they will be ASK slappers come tomorrow.

[Due Diligence Virtuoso]

Your wrong the Market Cap is $257 which is cheap. Not $500k as you just mentioned.



If you don't like the stock, then why are you wasting your time posting here?

Perhaps your short and spreading uncertainty! Hmmm...

[SecretMillionaire]

That is a good point dd. But all things are not equal. Fineqia is not an empty shell.

This one is more like 500k for an empty shell at 5 cents going with the Colorado
SOS. That’s expensive. Too much activity swarming around it too. I like empty
Shells like fpwm that have a smaller os than your market cap here. And no interest
And further along and extremely tight float making it near impossible to buy shares
Below 30 cents. Takes months and patience to get a good position in my type of
Shells.

This one needs dust clearninf and things to settle. But it has future potential as a good shell
For my tastes if there is nobody around and it’s say .002. I don’t see what dividend
You guys are expecting. I’m see payouts for old shareholders to my understanding

ThAfs not a dividend yield. That’s more like a pointless iou. Why bother ? Just keep the
Money rather than being paid back wirh your own money. And then holding an empty shell

That is the end game as I understand it here. If they have a plan for this ticker that is quite
Another story but that is pure conjecture and no supporting evidence as far as I can tell.
But I welcome any information to show otherwise or any supporting evidence to the contrary

[Due Diligence Virtuoso]

Market Cap $257K which is super cheap if it happens to be an empty shell. Your comparing it something with a $7 Million market cap. All things being equal the better value is in TNSB... Your company might dilute, and TNSB will not. They pay out instead.

[SecretMillionaire]

Thanks, Adijas. Okay, so some things are starting to come into focus. There was a payout to shareholders. This is not an RM. I'm not sure how this all ends, but I'm not seeing any shareholder rights. These are legal name changes for an end game not in alignment with my interests. This is all just a settlement for prior shareholders that does not benefit me in any way. Nobody is buying Transbotics here; is that right? Scott bought Transbotics.

This is -- Well, I'm not sure what it is. It's not an empty shell, but seems to be on its way to one. Or a lesser of something. Whatever it is, I better stay away for now.

I have another foreign company with a filing last month that wasn't released in a PR.

https://webfiles.thecse.com/20181006_FNQ_Form_7_October_2018.pdf?ZruhUPBDA8PQhJv_Ht8XgF._8jqxRFms

This is more straight forward. A UK company on the Canadian Stock Exchange, trading for less than $7M. No ambiguity. Just a startup with a run rate. Very clean. Will they take off or will they need more runway? Just very straight forward. Not many moving parts. That's more my speed. I'll stay with these foreigners for now.

Thanks again for the DD, Mr. Holdings. Very good work. I think I'll pass as I don't think we are buying Transbotics. But if you can prove me wrong, I'd love to be proven wrong. I wish you the best. I think your motives are pure.

[Due Diligence Virtuoso]

Who is Mr. Holding? Not sure who your talking to..

[SecretMillionaire]

That's some very good work, Mr. Holding. I like the way you circle and highlight and link. So it's not a ticker change. It was just Transbotics to Transbotics Group. It seems to me, according to my understanding, that you could be right about that 11M OS. That's the true OS I'd go with at this time. I'd prefer a transfer agent verify that so I would have no doubt, as I don't have a full understanding on the NC SOS. That seems like a valid interpretation from a reputable source. Which is still good.

It is intriguing. It's a lot of moving parts, and it's hard for me to grasp what's going on, so help me fill in the blanks here. My understanding is that Scott is a publicly traded foreign company on the NZ stock exchange; is that right? Just skimming still (busy month).

I found this PR

https://www.odt.co.nz/business/scott-technology-buys-us-manufacturer

They state revenues on the high end in line with your projections. But if so, why have they not been reporting since 2008? I don't understand. And what is the end game here? If Scott is the parent company, then they are already a public company. This isn't a reverse merger that I can tell. And how can they buy you without buying (and thus canceling) your shares? And the deal has already been consummated since June of this year. So why a name change with Finra? How can you be bought and then have no shareholder rights? Something just doesn't add up. It seems to me that older shareholders got screwed. But maybe I don't understand. And what is that dividend about? Is that part of the missing piece? A payoff to former shareholders that I'm not getting? And where does that leave new shareholders? Is this toilet paper or not? I'm just not getting this.

There is a piece missing here that I'm not getting...

[GageTrading]

Exactly. I only want to deal with the truth here. Most don't actually do any real dd but it's all out there on this one.

[Due Diligence Virtuoso]

Great Post... The traditional fear mongers showed up here in an attempt to steal cheap shares by spreading False Rumors. Those filings are clear and legal documents. No point in conjecture.

[GageTrading]

According to Finra and Ameritrade, there are NO corporate actions in process to cancel the shares. And to add to the SOS discussion....TNSB Group, Inc. Is registered with the Delaware SOS. Check it out. 2215739 Business Identifier
RA000602 Business Registry Code. Go to the Delaware division of corporations and enter TNSB Group, Inc. with the identifier (2215739). Ever heard of an LEI? It's a legal entity identifier used in a global system. Go to http://www.lei-lookup.com/#!search;from=50153 and Search Transbotics. Then click on the big number to the top right. Then go to changes on the left. Then click the box that says fields changed, which was updated on 11- Dec - 18. What you will find is the above identifier (2215739) for TNSB Group, Inc. Proof that Transbotics created the TNSB Group. It's all available to those who do their dd. What happens next, no one knows YET. But the above information is completely factual. Don't believe me, check it out for yourself.

[Due Diligence Virtuoso]

No insider selling registered. Employees would have dumped if the TNSB group was to be terminated. In fact we saw the opposite happen. Lots of buying the day the name changed occurred.