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I appreciate your breakdown analysis on this. Interesting things about to unfold!
I do not believe this is enough information at this time to prepare or estimate the value of REGEN. The $1 a share transaction in the 8k apparently is suspect based on the party invloved. Koos clearly did that, IMO, to make everyone think that REGEN is worth $51.6M....regardless of that transaction and its intent, Regens value (while a mystery for sure until the divy shares begin trading) is quite simple.
By the time the S1 is filed (any day), reviewed by SEC, back and forth with the company for SEC comments (which I suspect will be minimal as Regen does not have a complex capital structure nor operations) and ultimately approved and begins trading, the MIN IND should have been filed and maybe even Hema will have approval.
Floating a thought, that could all be within 5-6 weeks from now. If both of those events were to happen by the time the S1 is effective, then the value of Regen is the value of the Hema IND with fda Ph1 approval as well as the value attributable to the MIN IND. In reality, this is the fair value of REGEN at this moment...clearly the further down the FDA process for each, the higher the value to REGEN thus Regen's own value.
How much is that all worth now? At the time of the S1 effective date? I have no idea at all.
What I do know, is that by spinning of Regen (yes with a dilutional effect in the aggregate to BMSN of about 38%). Regen has a MUCH greater chance of realizing its own fair value without the weight of its parent (BMSN) holding it down....the effective 38% dilution factor to BMSN of this transaction will, IMO, be more than realized via the direct REGEN ownership of the divy shares. Regen will have the ability to realzie its own fair value in the market without having to do so for shareholders completely through their ownership in BMSN.
Like I have stated, this is 100% dependent upon 2 things: 1) Regen needs to continue to execute its business plan and make significatn headway with the FDA on both drug fronts, and 2)KOOS needs to keep REGEN the good bank and clean of the toxicity he strapped onto BMSN....if he does this, this entire manuever WILL be unlocking shareholder value! Full value of REGEN could never be realized as a majority owned sub. of BMSN due to all the weight laced upon it to get it to this point. BMSN and it s/h's will benefit from this too, as the value of its sub., Regen, can now be determined....and with that, so can the value of BMSN. At the end of the day, 100% of BMSN's value is related to its 58.15% ownership of REGEN....it has NO other value whatsoever, IMO.
By unlocking or creating an avenue for REGEN to be fairly valued by the market....so will BMSN. There was really NO need for that $1 share transaction for REGEN except for management to let the world know/think that is what they feel the value of REGEN is now or will be at the time of registration. However, as this is NOT and IPO and there will be no initial setting of REGEN share price at commencement of its tradeing, the market will have to figure out the correct PPS of those 20M regen shares hitting the market so to speak.
That's what is happening. If anyone can value Regens 2 projects, please share that info because that and that alone will be the what Regen is worth....allocated to the 20M shares as 38.15 or so percent of the company....again all these percents are based on 2.5B total BMSN shares outstanding at the time of the registration.
Traz, I agree but where did you guys get ticker YGFA?
read again...they are going to file an s1 for registration in the next few days for the regen dividend shares...tat means going public.
Okay... to the persons who have started this YGFA board:
I do not see anywhere in any of the SEC filings or press releases of BioMatrix Scientific BMSN stating that Regen BioPharma will be going public and spun off to a new ticker symbol YGFA.
Where are you coming up with this assumption?
Please provide links to confirm this.
Thank you,
LoveAndLight
I know it'll be Halloween soon, but sadly my crystal ball doesn't work as good as yours. I can't foresee future.
I'm invested, down yes but I am not selling for a loss, Min has shares? right? Koos needs Min, yes? Then I'll go with Min for the win.
I didn't know this was here. Damn this will be Koos new ticker after he kills BMSN. smh
You do realize that for those of us that sold in the past week or so, at a loss, could have easily bought right back in today or yesterday even with only having sacrificed a few hundred bucks? The price now is lower than where I sold. I still have not bought a share.
That goes for many people (flippers notwithstanding). The negativity has nothing yet everything to do with the pps. More importantly is has to do with the CEO who is doing everything in his power to make the shareholders that fund this endeavor of his, beg like peasants.
Anyone done a valuation on Regen yet? A realistic one?
YGFA (LOL)
This ticker is gonna scream to the upside when we get our REGEN Shares!!!!
Read the UPDATED FOR REGEN VALUTION UNCERTIANTY - MY ANALYSIS on the BMSN board. Its very good reading
Well, I was not one of them. However, since I bought in again recently @ 0038. I'm thinking I'm starting to regret not selling @ 0028. Would have only lost 10 points.
Only way Regen BioPharma, INC goes multi- mil is if they get bought out. And I sure hope it soon i m o
Regen & BMSN for the Big Multi-Billion dollar field! read: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/stem-cell-technologies-world-market-122100359.html
Min for the Win!
I personally think a lot of the negative talk is from people that sold early on that bad fall to .0019 area and are upset and want to rain on the parade, just my opinion. Bottom line is the science is worth Billions$$ the scientists are the best, Big Pharma will buy is trials show it works, that is where the big bucks are, all this day to day worry and banter is just a waste of time, they are talking about .000 difference and share count, for a product that works worth multi Billions $$$ does the small worry day to day matter? and there are more than 1 drug in the pipeline, take Billions$$$ for 1 drug x it by 2, 3, 5 etc with Min, big picture $$$
I hope there is no further selling I need 0038 just to break even
I am reading a lot of negativity about Koos and the 'New Deal'. Does the PPS continue to rise? OR will there be another selloff?
Yes, thank you. It's very exciting to be here!
I'm excited to be a part of a new beginning coming here to continued and new investors. Look forward to the CLEAN discussions.
thx...and I really hope Koos takes the opprotunity he has created form himself with the clean-slate REGEN offering to keep the company clean and free of toxic financing directly...
He needs to treat it like, as I have already posted,THE GOLDEN GOOSE IT IS AND WILL BECOME!!!
Thanks! Great asset! I'll do my best as well.
Great crew here!
Indeed! Can't wait to see how this all plays out!
~ YGFA = Mine Also! Good Peeps as MOD$ here! Heck tomorrow YGFA might be on top of the Break-out Boards!! ..LMAO !
now that just made my week! Welcome Meach!
Mod for regen! ! Ill do my best to make sure this is a fair, excellent board for regen. Thank you all!
~ YGFA = I like the Nice Low Low SS of YGFA when the IPO comes out!
We get Divi-$hares and then it will Bla$t North!!
~ YGFA = Congrats on all the new MOD$ !!! WeeEEEEEEeEEe!! Go YGFA !!
and as long as the toxic stuff stays in the bad bank (bmsn) and he keeps the new baby pure (good bank of Regen), all is cool with me.
I hope he has had this realization for LT success.
What is your take on the spin off?
regen has not been spun off...maybe from BMSN as a whole owned sub, but not to the market like now...that is very different.
yes, this is like what he did the entb i suppose, but that company is a junker.
Yes he spun off ENTB then spun off Regen without taking it public, so yes this is the second time He is technically spinning of Regen.
If you look at L2 on BMSN hard to believe all that was short covering looked like short selling on the run up to me! I think shorts know BMSN will be trashed...As far as the new ticker look what happened to ENTB when he spun that off, I wouldn't trust Koos so fast, just look at all the toxic dilution he has done so far.
~ YGFA = Yeah! Good Times in YGFA !!
hen was the first regen spin off?
as far as MIN, that is his curent deal...to get BMSN shares which still will own 58% of regen as its only REAL and valuable asset...as will we all who are long BMSN
We will have a direct interest in regen and still have all of our BMSN shares with a 58% interest in Regen.
WeeeEEeeeee! I Agree,, Very Exciting for BMSN / YGFA !!
Very exciting times ahead.
Don't forget, this is the second time Koos is spinning off Regen, so that in and of itself is pretty scandalous, I think it's just another way to raise cash. Funny though how all of Mins shares are in BMSN? wonder what to make of that? What do you think that means for Min?
The share Divy is brilliant, that plus the FDA approval and who know how many more drugs in the pipeline we will reach much higher pps then many realize.
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