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Humans allow themselves to become enslaved
by buying into irrational statist ideas, superstitions, lies, concepts, terms (words), definitions, and arguments..
~ Frederick Mann ~
Comment on the above quote:
This is the observation that is the basis for a legitimate argument about legitimacy
When people persist in basing arguments for a "civilized" state in the imaginary,
while they persist in gaping at reality itself as too monstrous to be contemplated
Is it any wonder that the streets of "civilizations" never fail to run red with blood?
~ Ernest Hancock ~
Source.. The Legitimacy Of Government
http://www.mind-trek.com/articles/t14a.htm
"Hope clouds observation "
Frank Herbert, Dune
From one of my favorite 2500 year old site, a resemblance to that Freeman quote
Chapter 56
Those who know do not talk
Those who talk do not know
Close the mouth
Shut the doors
Blunt the sharpness
Unravel the knots
Dim the glare
Mix the dust
This is called Mystic Oneness
They cannot obtain this and be closer
They cannot obtain this and be distant
They cannot obtain this and be benefited
They cannot obtain this and be harmed
They cannot obtain this and be valued
They cannot obtain this and be degraded
Therefore, they become honored by the world
http://taoism.net/ttc/complete.htm
A foolish faith in authority
is the worst enemy of truth..
~ Albert Einstein ~
Source.. letter to a friend, 1901
Wipe your glasses with what you know..
~ James Joyce ~
Sit down before fact like a little child
and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion
follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss Nature leads
or you shall learn nothing..
~ T.H. Huxley ~
Among the innumerable mortifications which waylay human arrogance
on every side may well be reckoned our ignorance
of the most common objects and effects, a defect of which we
become more sensible by every attempt to supply it.
Vulgar and inactive minds confound familiarity with knowledge
and conceive themselves informed of the whole nature of things
when they are shown their form or told their use;
but the speculatist,
who is not content with superficial views,
harasses himself with fruitless curiosity,
and still, as he inquires more,
perceives only that he knows less..
~ Samuel Johnson ~
The more you know
the more you realise how much you don't know
the less you know
the more you think you know..
~ David T. Freeman ~
Knowledge will forever govern ignorance
and a people who mean to be their own governors
must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives..
~ James Madison ~
If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare,
and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare,
they may take the care of religion into their own hands;
they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public treasury;
they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union;
they may assume the provision of the poor;
they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post roads;
in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation down to the most minute object of police,
would be thrown under the power of Congress....
Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for,
it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America..
~ James Madison ~ (1751-1836)
Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
Source.. On the Cod Fishery Bill, granting Bounties. February 7, 1792, referring to a bill to subsidize cod fisherman
introduced in the first year of the new Congress..
http://www.constitution.org/je/je4_cong_deb_12.htm
http://www.barefootsworld.net/nortonuc12.html
Comment
At the time of the writing of the Constitution, Fabian and other forms of Socialism were all the rage in Europe. 'General Welfare" was a popular contemporary term to that time clearly used differently by the Founders (biblical, Locke, Blackstone, etc. principles applied to the individual sovereign) than by the collectivists.
For example: "To lay taxes to provide for the general welfare of the United States, that is to say, 'to lay taxes for the purpose of providing for the general welfare.' For the laying of taxes is the power, and the general welfare the purpose for which the power is to be exercised. They are not to lay taxes ad libitum for any purpose they please; but only to pay the debts or provide for the welfare of the Union." (Thomas Jefferson)
~ Mike, Norwalk ~
As far as a book
Can't tell you how many times I have thought of that
The challenge is where to start
There are so many topics that I have covered over the years
Not to include the intimate personal experiences
A dart board would not do it justice
Any topic would seem like the tip of the iceberg..
Being irst is not always a good thing
Kind of like Mark Twain's patriot
In the beginning of a change the patriot is
a scarce man and brave, and hated and scorned
When his cause succeeds, the timid join him
for then it costs nothing to be a patriot..
What's interesting about a thought process
Sometimes it doesn't stop and more can be said
Changing what was written or adding on
When that happens it gets intense
because you only have fifteen minutes!!
I have been noticing those advantages of the 15 minutes, lol. I get a new mail alert every update. I thought my computer was malfunctioning, LOL.
Vex, You are now in the same league as many you quote. You'd better start writing your book. That was good and you were irst.
My thoughts as I responded to your post
Sometimes I take full advantage of that fifteen minutes..
What are you trying to say 8th?
irst?
The deflection art of screaming and yelling
Or that it made my ears throb?
irst?
Who said that first, you Vex? Is that someone else's quote?
Why are my ears throbbing?
It seems that if we were to get away from labeling
Put it all on the table
And look at life as reality would have it
Those that propagate the lie
Would have no clothes
Those screaming and yelling around them
Would have no clue
What would be left?
A world unimpeded by greed where honesty is forefront
Transparency is a given and life enjoyed as it was meant to be
By everyone..
And Liberals when they are getting beat up with facts resort to the deflection art of screaming and yelling.
Deflection seems to be a popular method as well..
Their seems to be a standard answer I have heard from friends when they can't argue logically against you, "I don't want to talk about it".
Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair
even in the face of evidence to the contrary
once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live
is lying and corrupt
the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it
To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones
To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self~image of standing for principles
Most people do not have the courage to face that choice
Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker
but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all
so, do we just give up?
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country
against his government..
~ Edward Abbey ~
It is difficult to free fools
from the chains they revere..
~ Voltaire ~ (1694-1778)
[François Marie Arouet]
Interesting how history has a way of repeating itself
Not many pay attention nor care enough
To notice
If they did, it would be a casual detached view
Nothing more, nothing less..
"More socialism means more democracy, openness and collectivism in everyday life."
That sounds like something Obama would say while reading a teleprompter
Those who hope that we shall move away from the socialist path will be greatly disappointed.
Every part of our program of perestroika … is fully based on the principle of more socialism and more democracy.
... I would like to be clearly understood ... we, the Soviet people, are for socialism.
... We want more socialism and, therefore, more democracy.
... More socialism means more democracy, openness and collectivism in everyday life.
… We will proceed toward better socialism rather than away from it.
We are saying this honestly, without trying to fool our own people or the world.
Any hopes that we will begin to build a different, non-socialist society and go over to the other camp
are unrealistic and futile.
Those in the West who expect us to give up socialism will be disappointed.
... It’s my conviction that the human race has entered a stage where we are all dependent on each other.
No other country or nation should be regarded in total separation from another, let alone pitted against another.
That’s what our communist vocabulary calls internationalism and it means promoting universal human values..
~ Mikhail Gorbachev ~
Source.. Perestroika: New Thinking for Our Country and the World
Therefore the sage says
I take unattached action, and the people transform themselves
I prefer quiet, and the people right themselves
I do not interfere, and the people enrich themselves
I have no desires, and the people simplify themselves
The sum of the equation as it relates to the whole
Deep thought, indeed..
Tao Te Ching, 500 BC
Chapter 57
Govern a country with upright integrity
Deploy the military with surprise tactics
Take the world with non-interference
How do I know this is so?
With the following:
When there are many restrictions in the world
The people become more impoverished
When people have many sharp weapons
The country becomes more chaotic
When people have many clever tricks
More strange things occur
The more laws are posted
The more robbers and thieves there are
Therefore the sage says:
I take unattached action, and the people transform themselves
I prefer quiet, and the people right themselves
I do not interfere, and the people enrich themselves
I have no desires, and the people simplify themselves
Three groups spend other people's money
children, thieves and politicians
All three need supervision..
~ Dick Armey ~
There is no act too small, no act too bold
The history of social change
is the history of millions of actions, small and large
coming together at points in history
creating a power that governments cannot suppress..
~ Howard Zinn ~
historian and author
In societies with strong power elites
the powerholders' power is dependent
on the co-operation, acquiescence, and tacit support
of the great majority of common citizens..
~ Bill Moyer ~
We must remember
Elections are short-term efforts
Revolutions are long-term projects..
~ Ron Paul ~
Chaos often breeds life
when order breeds habit..
~ Henry Adams ~
Ordo Ab Chao
Man is the only Patriot
He sets himself apart in his own country, under his own flag, and sneers at the other nations, and keeps multitudinous uniformed assassins on hand at heavy expense to grab slices of other people's countries, and keep them from grabbing slices of his.
And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood of his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man" - with his mouth.
~ Mark Twain ~
Source.. "The Lowest Animal"
Chaos is a name for any order
that produces confusion in our minds..
~ George Santayana ~
Ordo Ab Chao
There is no truth existing which I fear
or would wish unknown to the whole world..
~ Thomas Jefferson ~
The supreme mystery of despotism,
its prop and stay, is to keep men in a state of deception
and cloak the fear by which they must be held in check
so that they will fight for their servitude
as if for salvation..
~ Baruch Spinoza ~
Those in control learn from their mistakes
Those being controlled do not notice them..
It is what it is
Today there is no longer a right and a left
That is held for those in control to manipulate
Needing to be controlled by the paradigm at large
Makes it easy
As human nature would dictate
Has nothing to do with our plight
But everything to do with our state
Human nature wants the remedy to be painless
Our plight is overcoming human nature..
And Hubert H. Humphrey was a screaming liberal in his day. Today he would be conservative Republican or about equal to Newt Romney??
Many politicians...
are in the habit of laying it down as a self-evident proposition that no people ought to be free till they are fit to use their freedom.
The maxim is worthy of the fool...
who resolved not to go into the water till he had learned to swim..
~ Thomas Babington Macaulay ~ (1800-1859)
[Lord Macaulay] 1st Baron Macaulay, British historian
At any given moment there is an orthodoxy,
a body of ideas which it is assumed all right-thinking people will accept without question.
It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is "not done"...
Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness.
A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing,
either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals..
~ George Orwell ~ [Eric Arthur Blair] (1903-1950)
British author
All men have equal rights to liberty,
to their property,
and to the protection of the laws..
~ Voltaire ~ [François Marie Arouet] (1694-1778)
Source.. Essay on Manners, 1756
The voice of the majority
is no proof of justice..
~ Johann von Schiller ~
[Johann Christoph Friedrich von Schiller]
Because just as good morals, if they are to be maintained,
have need of the laws, so the laws, if they are to be observed,
have need of good morals..
~ Niccolo Machiavelli ~ (1469-1527)
Italian Statesman and Political Philosopher
When you start talking about government as
'we' instead of 'they,'
you have been in office too long..
~ Ronald Reagan ~ (1911-2004)
40th US President
Comments on this quote:
We The People were to be a Representative Republic, limited by a Constitution that was based on the laws of nature and of nature's God (for one reason - because of the hate and fear the founders had for democracy). What 'We've' ended up with is a socialistic theocracy where the slaves are allowed to choose who will represent the alien Theocracy's despots in suppressing the once noble We The People. "They" detest and work against inalienable rights.
-- Mike, Norwalk
"A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years" (Lysander Spooner). Amerika's jailers - the "we' - having no regard for Constitutional / Natural Law look at the once sovereign(s) "they" as chattel to be driven and disposed of as is most profitable for the "we".
-- Mike, Norwalk
Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program..
~ Milton Friedman ~ (1912-2006)
Nobel Prize-winning economist, economic advisor to President Ronald Reagan, "ultimate guru of the free-market system"
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