Pluto

[irockupet]

This isn't word for word, but close to what he said 7/25.

We entered FHAL because of the potential 1.5bn dollar contract for logging, we're an asset-back company we can turn those logs into 3bn dollars.

There is nothing in place, we'll be discussing with Ambassadors and the UN. Nothing in the prior FHAL business will be in CVSU.

[irockupet]

OT: TallRob,

Ok that's good that CSHC owns the patents now. A complete break from GA, except the share swap with AISS I presume, when it goes public. Since CSHD was only going to take a 40% position in AISS ... GA, which is Mensah's, would hold the majorit, and I would think they'd have the patents that were his. Just licensed by CSHC. Interesting, another thing to ask le bon docteur.

...do ya think there was a bit of acting on the good doc's part? Now there's disagreement in his past with CSHC, so when the connection is revealed, he'll look a little bit innocent in order to deflect questions. I doubt he'll be talking on the phone with another company's shareholders for much longer.

Like to phone him and let him know he's a finalist for the Daytime Emmy....

[craddock]

Largest known dwarf planet named Eris By ALICIA CHANG, AP Science Writer
Wed Sep 13, 10:54 PM ET

Eris (formerly Xena)




LOS ANGELES - A distant, icy rock whose discovery shook up the solar system and led to Pluto's planetary demise has been given a name: Eris.

The christening of Eris, named after the Greek goddess of chaos and strife, was announced by the International Astronomical Union on Wednesday. Weeks earlier, the professional astronomers' group stripped Pluto of its planethood under new controversial guidelines.

Since its discovery last year, Eris, which had been known as 2003 UB313, ignited a debate about what constitutes a planet.

Astronomers were split over how to classify the object because there was no universal definition. Some argued it should be welcomed as the 10th planet since it was larger than Pluto, but others felt Pluto was not a full-fledged planet.

After much bickering, astronomers last month voted to shrink the solar system to eight planets, downgrading Pluto to a "dwarf planet," a category that also includes Eris and the asteroid Ceres.

Eris' discoverer, Michael Brown of the California Institute of Technology, said the name was an obvious choice, calling it "too perfect to resist."

In mythology, Eris caused a quarrel among goddesses that sparked the Trojan War. In real life, Eris forced scientists to define a planet that eventually led to Pluto getting the boot. Soon after Pluto's dismissal from the planet club, hundreds of scientists circulated a petition protesting the decision.

Eris' moon also received a formal name: Dysnomia, the daughter of Eris known as the spirit of lawlessness.

Eris, which measures about 70 miles wider than Pluto, is the farthest known object in the solar system at 9 billion miles away from sun. It is also the third brightest object located in the Kuiper belt, a disc of icy debris beyond the orbit of Neptune.

Eris had been without a formal name while astronomers grappled over its status. Brown nicknamed it "Xena" after the fictional warrior princess pending an official designation. He admits the new name will take some getting used to.

"It's a little sad to see Xena go away," he said.

[gotmilk]

The International Astronomers Union wants us to believe...

Pluto fell off the turnip truck.

[apilgrim2]

gotmilk

Watching 'Midas'' post saw the Pluto board and when that bit of information came up just had to post it. If only for me. LOL!!!

Don't feel like no 'phantom' but if all my atoms etc are that empty maybe I am just a figment of my imagination. Who knows? 'The Phantom knows..........no, the was the Shadow wasn't it?'

Take care.........pilgrim

I don't suffer from insanity-I thoroughly ENJOY it

[gotmilk]

thank you for your post about size, solidness & emptyness :)

[gotmilk]

Save the planet! (Pluto, that is)

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=166

Hopefully they'll also give us back Planet Xena (and its satellite, Gabrielle).

[apilgrim2]

midas, Pluto 'ain't' so small look at the last link











And to put things in perspective

Perspective: Atom.

Hydrogen Atom Scale Model (Would not post this page..................ELEVEN MILES OF NOTHING?.)


""And you thought there was a lot of empty space in the solar system. Well, there's even more nothing inside an atom. A hydrogen atom is only about a ten millionth of a millimeter in diameter, but the proton in the middle is a hundred thousand times smaller, and the electron whizzing around the outside is a thousand times smaller than THAT. The rest of the atom is empty. I tried to picture it, and I couldn't. So I put together this page - and I still can't picture it.
The page is scaled so that the smallest thing on it, the electron, is one pixel. That makes the proton, this big ball right next to us, a thousand pixels across, and the distance between them is... yep, fifty million pixels (not a hundred million, because we're only showing the radius of the atom. ie: from the middle to the edge). If your monitor displays 72 pixels to the inch, then that works out to eleven miles - making this possibly the biggest page you've ever seen.

I recommend trying to scroll from here to the right a screen at a time, just to see how long it takes the little thumb in the scrollbar to move visibly. True masochists can try to scroll through the whole eleven miles - but the scenery along the way is pretty bleak.

I used to think that things like rocks and buildings and my own skeleton were fairly solid. But they're made up of atoms, and atoms, as you can see here, contain so little actual material that they can barely be said to exist.

We are all phantoms.""

From: On a grand scale: Information design and science.

Take care.........pilgrim

I don't suffer from insanity-I enjoy it

[Trisha]

Yep, me sure that is what you meant.....

[midastouch017]

Ooops, i meant Pluto

[Trisha]

Careful.....the wife likes me remember?

[midastouch017]

I do not like jokes about bodies i love

[Trisha]

I can relates to that!!!

Oh and don't forget the women hehe

[Trisha]

How bout Earth???

With all these wierd people livin here, is it really a planet????????

Makes ya wonder - hehe

[midastouch017]

Precisely. It always is Republicans fault !!!

[hansum]

From CNN yesterday...
"They got Pluto. Uranus is next!"

[Trisha]

Was it found to be republican therefore to far right?????

[midastouch017]

Pluto was a Planet, now not even a Star

:(

[Trisha]

Whats Pluto?

hehe

[midastouch017]

Polls II

How do you feel about Pluto's demotion?

http://space.com/

Vote now !!!

[midastouch017]

Pluto Polls

"Astronomy News" at http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=hp&id=3 has a Pluto poll on their homepage.

I voted "No" to :
Do you think the IAU should omit Pluto as a planet?

Every vote counts

Dubi

[Stock Lobster]

Pluto, Out of Planet Club, Stays on Astrology Charts (Update1)
2006-08-25 13:05 (New York)

By Vivien Lou Chen
Aug. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Astronomers have banished Pluto to
second-class status. Not so astrologists: They're sticking up for
the celestial body that had been the smallest planet in our solar
system for 76 years.

``I'm going to continue using it,' said Wall Street's best-
known astrologer, Arch Crawford, who has studied the effect of
the planets on the Dow Jones Industrial Average. ``They can stick
it where the sun don't shine,' Crawford, 65, said.

The International Astronomical Union's decision yesterday to
relegate Pluto to the status of ``dwarf' planet makes no
difference to astrologers, who use planetary positions to predict
earthly and human events. About 31 percent of Americans believe
in astrology, according to a 2003 Harris Poll of 2,201 adults.

Americans spend about $200 million a year on astrology, said
Stephanie Jean Clement, a director at the American Federation of
Astrologers in Tempe, Arizona, who intends to keep using Pluto.
Former First Lady Nancy Reagan relied on astrologers, including
the late Jeane Dixon, during the 1980s to help set the daily
schedule for President Ronald Reagan.

Discovered by astronomer Clyde Tombaugh in 1930, Pluto is
3.67 billion miles (5.91 billion kilometers) from the sun and is
smaller than the moon. It's named for the Greek god of the
underworld, or Hades, and often associated with intense energy,
transformation and the astrological sign of Scorpio. Until this
week, it was counted as one of nine planets in the solar system.

`Pluto Works'

``Pluto works for me, so you can call it whatever you
want,' said San Francisco-based lawyer and part-time astrologer
Eamonn Markham, who charges $125 to $600 an hour to read personal
charts. ``It doesn't matter to me whether Pluto is classified as
a moon or an asteroid.'

Markham, 40, says he uses Pluto to help determine when a
major transformation will come into a person's life. ``The
information it gives me about someone is very powerful,' he
said.

Astrologers charge for compiling personal charts, which use
the position of the planets at the time of a client's birth to
make conclusions about personality, abilities and the future.
Newspapers pay for daily horoscopes, and Amazon.com carries more
than 48,000 titles that touch on astrology.

There are probably more than 10,000 full-time astrologers in
the U.S. and as many as 175,000 part-timers, said Clement of the
American Federation of Astrologers.
Using a number of variables that include the position of the
planets, the sun and the moon, Crawford says he predicts the
outbreak of World War III will take place some time between Sept.

4 and Sept. 22 of this year, most likely on the 4th, 7th, 8th or
22nd.

Forget the Scientists

``Pluto's station is the underworld, underworld-type figures
and activities: drugs, prostitution, terrorism and that which is
hidden from corporate view,' Crawford said in a phone interview.
``What scientists are saying is not going to exclude its
effect.'

Astrology dates back to the Babylonians, who used charts to
predict the recurrence of seasons. It was introduced to the
Greeks in the fourth century B.C., and later embraced by the
Romans and Arabs. John Pierpont Morgan, one of the wealthiest men
in America at the turn of the 20th century, employed a full-time
astrologer at his bank, J.P. Morgan & Co.

``Everyone wants to speak to an astrologer after a shrink
and their friends,' Markham said. ``We're the last resort.'

--With reporting by Tara Zorovich in San Francisco. Editor:
Reichl (jmw/dfr)

Story illustration: For the Web site of the IAU's meeting in
Prague, see http://www.astronomy2006.com/ For horoscopes on the
Bloomberg, see {STAR <GO>}.

To contact the reporter on this story:
Vivien Lou Chen in San Francisco at (1) [phone] or
[e-mail]

To contact the editor responsible for this story:
Dan Reichl in San Francisco at (1) [phone] or
[e-mail]

[midastouch017]

Mnemonic devices will have to be altered. Textbooks will need to be rewritten and re-purchased. Educational posters and museum exhibits will need to be changed. And knowledge will become outdated.

Someday, somewhere, a vicious fight is going to break out over a Trivial Pursuit game where the question had one correct answer under the pre-2006 planet scheme but another correct answer in the brave new eight-planet world. And all this will be done for … what exactly?

In essence, for nothing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/30/opinion/main1949289.shtml

[midastouch017]

Precisely, that's the spirit !!!

After all it was a farce,

>>Only around 430 IAU members were present when the resolution on Pluto was put to vote, although some 2,500 had gathered on the opening of the 10-day meeting, he said.
"As voting took place on the last day, many had already left and attendance was poor," Hasan said, adding the group which took part in voting "was not truly representative" of the IAU.>>

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1779616,00040005.htm

Dubi

[originunknown]

lol, bring PLUTO BACK NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[midastouch017]

It ain't over yet !!!

Dubi

[originunknown]

Yes, for the demise of my favourite planet

[midastouch017]

Rest in Peace ???

[originunknown]

R.I.P.

[Trisha]

Yep!

Show me the stock! lol

[midastouch017]

< the new book >

Stripping away Pluto's planetary status does not change anything except astronomy textbooks, says astrophysicist Siraj Hasan, who represented India at the International Astronomical Union (IAU) meeting in Prague that took the decision.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1779616,00040005.htm

Great minds think alike, Trisha

:)

Dubi

[PDC ™]

:)

[ThanksLouie]

All these years I've been lied to lol

[midastouch017]

They fought it, they mocked it, they tried to get rid of it. Before WWII more than 10 million people spoke Yiddish, and in less than 50 years it turned into an endangered language, but no more.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3296572,00.html

Yesterday Yiddish, today Pluto, whose turn tomorrow ???

Pluto Now !!!

Dubi

[midastouch017]

Ruler of Sign: Scorpio

Ruler of House: 8th

Exalted in: Virgo or Leo that is now !!!

In Detriment in: Taurus

In Fall in: Pisces

Qualities:

The deepest instincts of the unconscious mind. The process of fundamental transformation. Of death and rebirth, not necessarily physical, but the breaking down and clearing away (death) of old ways to make room for the new (rebirth).

Keywords and what it rules:

Communism, compulsive, crime, darkness, death, deep, hidden, intense, magic, mystery, nuclear energy, obsession, obstinate, occult, orgasm, paranoid, penetrating, persistent, power, profundity, psychology, rebirth, recycle, reform, renewal, reproduction, revolutionary, secretive, self-transforming therapies and healing, sex, subconscious, taboo, transformation, unconscious, underneath, undermining, underworld, volcanoes

In Mundane Astrology: The underworld, detectives, disruption, decline, regeneration

Body Parts Ruled:

excretors, genito-urinary tract, reproductive system

Note: The message was written all over the wall,
>> The process of fundamental transformation. Of death and rebirth, not necessarily physical, but the breaking down and clearing away (death) of old ways to make room for the new (rebirth).>>

Dubi

[FRED8]

I've always championed the little guy and the under dog...

[Trisha]

Dubi,

I want to find the stock the is printing the new book and get in on it...it will go all across the US!

How bout lets by stock now and then keep it in there for when they change their minds again!!!

hehhehehehehehe - messes with me just fine!

[Ogclip ©]

..

[midastouch017]

That's the spirit

[Stock Lobster]

Pluto passe? Mickey HEARTBROKEN!

Not Possible! Unpardonable!

Fight the demotion of Pluto. I demand they REMOTE Pluto right now!!!

This is just another market maker conspiracy...! Goes to show you that in this universe, no one is safe.

[midastouch017]

Today Pluto, tomorrow whom ???

Dubi

[midastouch017]

Pluto, when you walk through a storm
Hold your head up high.......
And do not be afraid of the dark.
At the end of this storm, there is a
rainbow sign:
Your dreams will come true,
With hope in your heart,
You'll never walk alone.


Go, Pluto, go

Dubi

[TallRob0]

Dwarf Planet,,,how un PC,,,Little Planet should be the term.

[PDC ™]

I think it is actually an "icey dwarf"

[gotmilk]

"Clearing the neighbourhood" a part of the process of planet formation

Planet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet


Planet (disambiguation)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_(disambiguation)

Daily Planet, a fictional newspaper in the Superman Universe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Planet


Dwarf Planet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_planet

Artist's impression of Pluto together with its satellite Charon. Pluto, considered a planet for 76 years, was reclassified as a dwarf planet in 2006.

Protoplanetary Disk (Planet Formation)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_formation


Clearing The Neighbourhood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearing_the_neighbourhood
The phrase refers to an orbiting body (a planet or protoplanet) "sweeping out" its orbital region over time, by gravitationally interacting with smaller bodies nearby. Over many orbital cycles, a large body will tend to cause small bodies either to accrete with it, or to be disturbed to another orbit. As a consequence it does not then share its orbital region with other bodies of significant size, except for its own satellites, or those governed by its own gravitational influence. This latter restriction excludes objects whose orbits may cross but which will never collide with each other due to orbital resonance, such as Jupiter and the Trojan asteroids or Neptune and the Plutinos.
Controversy
Dr. Alan Stern, of the NASA New Horizons mission to Pluto, argues that Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Neptune have also not completely cleared their orbital neighbourhoods, which would technically make them qualify as dwarf planets. Earth co-orbits with 10,000 near-Earth asteroids, and Jupiter has 100,000 Trojan asteroids in its orbital path. "If Neptune had cleared its zone, Pluto wouldn't be there," he has said.[4] A contrary view is that having 'cleared the neighborhood' refers to an object being the dominant mass in its vicinity, e.g. Earth is many times more massive than all of the NEAs combined.[citation needed]

Table of Dwarf Planets in the Solar System
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_dwarf_planets_in_the_solar_system

doug (born on planet Pluto)

[midastouch017]

I'm sure this decision will soon be changed (again) when they realize that, by the same logic, Neptune is no longer a planet either.

If Pluto isn't a planet because it hasn't cleared its orbit of Neptune, than Neptune can't be a planet either. Duh!

[caseytrader]

So now that Pluto has been downgraded, what classification do its 3 moons have?

[RonnieD]

I agree with the ruling. Although the term "dwarf planet" isn't the best, because some see it as an oxymoron, this had to be done.

[midastouch017]

What designation was assigned to Pluto this week after the International Astronomical Union stripped it of official planet status?

The correct answer is: d) Dwarf planet

[midastouch017]

It ain't over yet!!!

Dubi