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This should be the day for PLL to rebound. I’m watching but maybe no one else is. It’s okay, I’m used to talking to myself.
Expected revenue in next four quarters and EPS of $13. Price target of $184 from RothMKM. The stock continues falling. Am I missing something. It looks like time to buy shares and calls ahead of next earnings announcement Nov. 17.
Time to look at Piedmont Lithium. Actual revenue expected in 3rd Qtr with big profits. Price target now at $190 with stock at $57. This could be one of the biggest winners of 2023.
Presentation worth watching
TB Amati Strategic Metals Fund 2 year Anniversary Seminar
3 days ago
Neil Herbert, Chairman of Atlantic Lithium on at 36 minutes (video will start there)
Yep, and people do realize, Quebec is not in the UnIted States, right???
This stock will fill the 6.01 gap from 9/8/2020 by June 2, 2023 imo, which is the six month consolidation completion, they are starting 4 million worth of exploration/drilling with Jourdan Resources soon and that takes some time, Jourdan resources also promised investors an initial resource estimate was imminent in 2022…and now says it wont be ready till the PLL investment activities are completed, which is a lie to those investors who were expecting an IRE in 2022. Dealing with a company that lies to its investors without proper explanation or apology for breaking a promise looks bad, the fall of Musk’s ev company also is weighing on the sector; all imo.
Bought my first shares today. Spodumene deal with Sayona, which I also own, is too good to pass.
GLTAH
Not enough interest for EV's as a whole! All of it is a media fabrication at best, no commons ens measures anywhere out there today, and a major mid term election couple weeks away that will rock this nation one way or another...
Funny local Hickory/Gastonia, NC car dealer adds now showing "used EV's for sale" daily on their TV stations...
Piedmont Lithium Inc.
6,869 followers
1h • 1 hour ago
As the The White House shares news today about the booming #EV industry, $PLL is proud to be noted for our “historic private sector investment.”
For our #TennesseeLithium operation, we are investing approximately $600 million in the development of our manufacturing facility, which is designed to produce 30,000 MT per year of much-needed, made-in-America lithium hydroxide. Together with our global portfolio of projects, Tennessee Lithium will play a key role in our efforts to support US #EnergySecurity and deliver critical #lithium resources to the EV supply chain.
https://lnkd.in/etiQKeB5
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Piedmont Lithium Inc.
6,562 followers
2h • 2 hours ago
A proud moment for Piedmont Lithium Inc. as we look back on last week’s announcement in Etowah, TN in McMinn County – the site of our new project that will double American #lithium hydroxide production and play a critical role in the #EV future as the largest lithium plant in North America. $PLL
Tennessee Department of Economic and Community Development
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6973019028684509184/
Not enough Litihium for EV's
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lithium-supply-ev-targets-miner-181513161.html
Miner Piedmont unveils plans to build lithium refining plant in push for domestic EV supply chains
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/01/miner-piedmont-unveils-plans-for-new-lithium-refining-plant-in-push-for-domestic-ev-supply-chains.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Main&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1662041015
Biden's Big Money for Battery Metals - Roundtable @Mines & Money 5@5
2,052 views Sep 3, 2022
Screw that when consumers have no money left... MOST have been living a lie and living on credit cards for a long time.... Winter season approaching and Duke Energy here in Carolinas already telling people increases across the Board. In fact, 8% + increases every year from here due to green energy costs upon them...
PLL announced this morning here in Belmont, NC they are going to build their new HQ..
Manchin is right and he really wants to keep his job this November. Many West Virginians still very pissed at him...
Lithium shortage to last well into the next decade - Piedmont Lithium's Keith Phillips
472 views Apr 5, 2022
Lithium names plunge as Manchin hits brakes on Biden electric vehicle push
Apr. 05, 2022 Carl Surran, SA News Editor116
Senator Joe Manchin told the LNG Allies' Transatlantic Energy Security Forum IV event on Tuesday that he "will not sign up" for an aggressive electric vehicle push, which apparently sent lithium industry stocks (NYSEARCA:LIT) plunging across the board.
Among potentially relevant tickers: NASDAQ:PLL -10.8%, NYSE:LAC -10.7%, SLI -7.6%, MP -6.5%, LTHM -6.5%, ALB -3.9%, SQM -3.6%.
Manchin raised two objections to President Biden's plan for electric vehicles, according to the Washington Examiner: Proposals have not sufficiently addressed who will get the revenue from the electricity used to charge vehicles with taxpayer-funded charging stations, and U.S. critical mineral supply chains are underdeveloped.
"I will not sign up [to transform] our energy and transportation system around EVs that have to be dependent on foreign supply chains," the Senator said, according to the Examiner.
At the same event, Manchin reportedly expressed frustration over slow gas pipeline approvals and asked the Biden administration to be more "open-minded" in its energy policy response to the war in Ukraine.
Lithium names were rising in recent days following initial reports that President Biden would sign the Defense Production Act to encourage domestic production of minerals needed to make batteries for electric vehicles.
Thank you for the update on meeting and permits.
They own a piece of Sayona, which is about a year from producing. It might explain PLL SP.
This morning public meeting going to go on about restarting some old lithium mine operation around Kings Mountain area of Upstate SC... Still got the debacle going on here in Gaston, NC area for PLL and still no permits or approvals given there, yet stock price is so overhyped it is unbelievable...
Looks bullish even with the cash raising going on.
Can it last?
https://piedmontlithium.com/piedmont-announces-pricing-of-upsized-public-offering-of-common-stock/
Just when you thought it could not get worse, Biden just put Kaybash on every new mining and oil exploration permit going forward, stopping all of them!
Many small operators in oil/gas/mining will be put out of business real fast now.
WHAT Country do we really live in you all must ask yourselves ...???
Ascending wedge. Break to upside soon
Fireside Chat Series with Keith Phillips, President & CEO of Piedmont Lithium on January 27, 2022 at 1 pm EST
https://www.watertowerresearch.com/content/fireside-chat-series-with-keith-phillips-president-ceo-of-piedmont-lithium-on-january-27-2022-at-1-pm-est/teaser?utm_campaign=elts&utm_medium=social&utm_source=social
Piedmont Lithium Issues Economic Impact Study for Carolina Lithium Project
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/piedmont-lithium-issues-economic-impact-210000196.html
Piedmont Lithium Inc.
10m • 10 minutes ago
Excited to release an Economic Impact Study regarding our proposed Carolina Lithium Project in Gaston County, NC. While we hope to have the opportunity to realize this vision and leverage this project to contribute to economic prosperity in Gaston County, we believe it is also representative of the opportunity that the creation of a US-based EV supply chain holds for communities across our country--creating jobs, reenergizing our workforce and manufacturing base, generating tax revenue that can provide valuable services to citizens, supporting education, social and philanthropic programs, and helping America remain competitive globally. Our future looks positively electric. For the full report: https://lnkd.in/daZn9PEw #electricvehicles #cleanenergytransition #esginvesting #carbonneutral #money #innovation #technology #sustainability
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$PLL: Tesla just did a Massive-SupplyDEAL with Talon-METALS
MASSIVE
$TLOOF
https://talonmetals.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/TLO_Presentation_May_2021.pdf
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/TLOFF/security
GO $PLL
Lifshitz Law Firm seems to be a stock ambulance chaser that just makes their money by unsuspecting retail for many stocks, and has been viewed many times as a scam company themselves. Any of the things it throws at the wall and actually sticks for some relatively small settlement that takes long term litigation, the lawyers make the money; retail not so much. Nobody that big money takes seriously or is to effected by it seems. PLL up this morning and up about %100 for the year. If it was more serious, then a more accredited legal firm would be involved and more news worthy I think. PLL might be guilty as hell, who knows, but this firm isn't going to make to big of wave, if any. Definitely not much defense against all the money in this industry right now. Just saying.
Lifshitz Law Firm, P.C. announces that a class action complaint has been filed against Piedmont alleging that Defendants, throughout the Class Period, made false and/or misleading statements and/or failed to disclose that: (1) Piedmont has not, and would not, follow its stated steps or timeline to secure all proper and necessary permits; (2) Piedmont failed to inform relevant people and governmental authorities of its actual plans; (3) Piedmont failed to file proper applications with relevant governmental authorities (including state and local authorities); (4) Piedmont and its lithium business does not have "strong local government support"; and (5) as a result, Defendants' public statements were materially false and/or misleading at all relevant times.
If you are a Piedmont investor, and would like additional information about our investigation, please complete the Information Request Form or contact Joshua Lifshitz, Esq. by telephone at (516)493-9780 or e-mail at info@jlclasslaw.com.
Interesting hmmmm...
Piedmont Lithium Releases Bankable Feasibility Study for Carolina Lithium Project
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20211214005442/en/Piedmont-Lithium-Releases-Bankable-Feasibility-Study-for-Carolina-Lithium-Project
Thanks for the feedback.
Bank feasibility study out today is pure BS doc. No better than a MOU for a potential upcoming buyout or deal that has not been consummated.
Just double-speak language. means nothing...
My point should have been better expressed.
Specifically, if PLL could release information on when and how they will begin to recognize revenues from lithium sales, this stock would take off. The uncertainty of when and how is an overhang to the progress of the stock price.
My point should have been better expressed.
Specifically, if PLL could release information on when and how they will begin to recognize revenues from lithium sales, this stock would take off. The uncertainty of when and how is an overhang to the progress of the stock price.
PLL specific news is what is going to move the stock
Thanks for the article.
PLL specific news is what is going to move the stock. Everyone agrees that producing lithium companies are going to do well. PLL is basically a Lithium development company.
Those actions are already planned in and accounted for and teams of lawyers make their paydays and politicians get back room pockets padded. Did you expect anything else? The way these things work is always this way to show "concern" and look like the powers to be are doing things about things, but in the end, overall demand, money and greed continue to hold the power to effect. There will be months and longer of this act, delays to the inevitable, there always is. Just like all the congressional hearings throughout yrs (both parties in power at different times) when gas is highest and they act like they're doing something about something and are "concerned", but nothing ever happens and the consumer always pays the price in the long run. That's always been for big oil, and it will be the same for lithium mining in the future.
I don't like the negative impact to the WORLD environment that lithium is creating, but there is nothing that will stand in the way for the future pricing and profits of what's going to be "big lithium". Demand is going to outpace the supply as it is now and we will be as much dependent on lithium as we are to big oil. Lithium miners will be much more profitable and powerful in the near future. That's a fact and nothing you or I can say or do that can stop it.
An article from the Forbes recently:
Lithium Shortage May Stall Electric Car Revolution And Embed China’s Lead: Report
Neil Winton Senior Contributor
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/2021/11/14/lithium-shortage-may-stall-electric-car-revolution-and-embed-chinas-lead-report/?sh=5c31cc8646ef
The electric car revolution will stall in the West if supplies of crucial battery elements like lithium fail to keep up with the forecast huge increase in demand. This will drive battery prices higher, decimate profit margins, and the coveted $100 per kWh battery, which would have signaled the arrival of affordable green vehicles, will remain on the launch pad.
“Western weaknesses in lithium-ion supply chains will slow electric vehicle adoption and demonstrate China’s dominance of the EV (electric vehicle) market,” according to a report from GlobalData. a leading data and analytics company.
This kind of pressure might also delay Tesla’s TSLA +4.1% long promised “affordable” $25,000 electric car.
The report said EV output is set to “skyrocket” to 12.76 million cars a year by 2026, with over half coming from China.
“With lithium prices set to rise throughout the next decade, the EV sector in the West will have to face rising battery costs. If they pass costs on to the consumer, EV adoption will likely accelerate at a slower rate than previously expected,” the report said.
The International Energy Agency (IEA) has estimated that the growth in EVs could see lithium demand increase by over 40 times by 2030, according to the International Lithium Association (ILiA) . Last year lithium demand was about 320,000 tonnes and is expected to hit 1 million by 2025 and 3 million by 2030, according to Reuters.
Earlier this month, LMC Automotive predicted European EV sales would rise from 1.2 million in 2021 to 3.4 million in 2024, 6.1 million in 2027 and 10.5 million in 2030.
U.S. investment newsletter Energy & Capital’s Luke Sweeney put it this way, as world leaders rush to implement green energy promises.
“They (the leaders) are ignoring the trillion-ton elephant in the room. Carbon-free power and gasoline-free transportation cannot exist without mining an absurd amount of lithium. Right now, production is not even close to keeping up. We simply aren’t pulling enough lithium out of the ground to match the projected demand,” Sweeney said.
Daniel Clarke, Thematic analyst at GlobalData, said China held 80.5% of global lithium-ion battery capacity in 2020, and even with the U.S. and EU’s best efforts will still dominate by 2026 with an expected 61.4% share.
“The rising price of lithium demonstrates what many in the industry have warned about for some time: the growing divergence between supply and demand for lithium. Ultimately, this will lead to an increase in the price of EVs, as automakers pass the cost on to the consumer,” Clarke said.
The average price of lithium carbonate has been erratic - halving before doubling again, and this has made investors wary of investing in new capacity.
“Batteries are already the most expensive part of an EV. Cell costs would need to be notably below $100 per kilowatt hour for mainstream production to take off, but this isn’t looking likely. Any increases in cost will be a blow to the decarbonization agenda of advanced economies, as well as lead to a deceleration in the decarbonization of the automotive industry,” Clarke said in the report.
In an online interview, I asked Clarke if the outlook for the price of lithium meant LMC Automotive’s European EV sales targets were still possible.
"It very much depends on automakers. Estimates see the rising cost of lithium hitting the EV market sometime between 2022 and 2024. (manufacturers) will have to decide on whether to absorb the cost or pass it onto the consumer. The market will become more competitive as a result. It is very possible that the (manufacturers) with the deepest pockets, such as Toyota, are able to take market share by absorbing the cost of the battery and undercutting their competitors, who would be forced to increase their prices. Tesla, whose EV market is focused on premium cars, would likely not be too badly affected, but it will make them potentially reconsider their plans for a low-cost $25,000 Tesla Model 2."
Clarke said lithium represents about 7% of the total cost of a battery but you also need Graphite, Manganese, Nickel, Cobalt. The latter two prices are also precarious because of supply issues.
“Cobalt is used in the cathode, and the cathode is the most expensive part of a battery, which is in turn the most expensive part of an EV. However, necessity is the mother of invention, and new battery chemistries are being developed all around the world."
Is the 100 kWh battery now in jeopardy?
"It is hard to say. Recent reports have the price per kWh at $105 but it is expected to rise next year as a result of the aforementioned forces at play. Lithium shortages will get worse next year and may continue into the middle of the decade. It is important to remember that building a lithium mine takes seven years and many automakers want high-quality batteries. Mines are huge investments, much like chip fabrication plants, there isn't a lot of room for just increasing capacity… most of these mines will be working around the clock anyway," Clarke said.
According to the ILiA, natural lithium minerals are relatively abundant and found in many countries. Currently there are large industrial operators in Australia, Chile, Argentina, Bolivia, China, Brazil, Zimbabwe and Portugal, that produce lithium raw materials at significant scale, although this number is set to rise as lithium production increases to meet demand. Experts say there are bottlenecks in the conversion processes needed to produce usable lithium. Plants take years to reach full production and this, combined with accelerating demand, means supplies will remain tight and prices high.
The big car and SUV makers are scrambling to set up deals to guarantee supplies. Tesla has a deal with Piedmont Lithium of North Carolina. General Motors GM -0.6% is investing in a Californian project. Companies like Stellantis, Renault and BMW are known to be investing in projects which seek to speed up, and clean up, the conversion process. It’s safe to assume that every single auto operative is doing the same thing.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/2021/11/14/lithium-shortage-may-stall-electric-car-revolution-and-embed-chinas-lead-report/?sh=5c31cc8646ef
County Commissioner meeting last night as reported by Charlotte Fox 46 news and delays happening for the entire operation over local landowner and environmental pollution concerns...
Beware: Broke below the 50 SMA, MACD about to fail (below 0). Could tank hard like July 20, dumped $14 that day. Indices look ready to dip.
Bounce off 50 dma. Doesn’t go as high as I would like, but still bounces nicely.
Piedmont Lithium Public Hearing for State Permit and Update
https://deq.nc.gov/news/press-releases/2021/11/08/reminder-public-hearings-scheduled-piedmont-lithium-carolinas-mining-application
https://www.catawbariverkeeper.org/2021/11/12/piedmont-lithium-public-hearing-for-state-permit-and-update/
NC DEQ is holding a public information session and hearing on Monday, Nov 15th at the Gaston County Courthouse. There will be a virtual overflow hearing on Wednesday, November 18th. Speakers must register by noon on the 15th. Written comments will be accepted through Nov 26th. Details can be found in the press release.
Background
Piedmont Lithium is planning an open-pit lithium mine project northwest of Gastonia near the Lincoln County border. The site is located on the Carolina Tin-Spodumene Belt, the largest hard rock lithium deposit in the United States. The increased demand for lithium in electric vehicles has made local extraction economically attractive for the first time since the 1980s.
Environmental Impacts
Surface Waters
In their 2019 federally approved site plan, Piedmont Lithium is permitted to fill 1,481 linear feet of perennial tributary, 4,904.5 linear feet of intermittent tributary, 0.18 acre of wetlands, 0.16 acre of impoundments, and 7.46 acres of indirect wetland impacts. The permit includes alternative project sites and pit locations. The approved plan is designed to minimize impacts to federally regulated surface waters and avoid the 100yr floodplain.
Groundwater
Because much of the ore is below the water table, Piedmont Lithium will be pumping groundwater out of the mining pits. This will lower the adjacent groundwater and is expected to dewater streams, wetlands, and nearby property wells. Groundwater levels will be monitored with a system of wells. Piedmont Lithium plans to mitigate this by providing deeper wells or alternative water for neighbors (as needed) and discharging wastewater back into the surface waters to mimic pre-mining flows.
Discharges
The site will generate mining wastewater and stormwater runoff. Both types of discharges will likely be regulated under the general permit NCG02 which covers most types of mining. Piedmont Lithium has applied to the state for this permit. The general mining permit includes design, treatment, monitoring, and reporting requirements. The permit requirements were updated in 2020.
Other Impacts
Catawba Riverkeeper recognizes that the project will have impacts outside the scope of our expertise as a watershed advocate. Other negative externalities such as dust, traffic, and noise may impact adjacent properties. The project may also create benefits such as jobs, tax revenue, and local production of batteries for electric vehicles.
Permitting
To begin their mining operation Piedmont Lithium must have a Federal 401/404 permit, a North Carolina Mining Permit, Gaston County rezoning, and a Gaston County Special Use Permit. They secured their federal permit to alter surface waters in 2019.
In August of 2021, the company submitted its application to the state for a permit. Due to public interest, and at the request of groups such as Catawba Riverkeeper, the State agreed to schedule a public information session and hearing. This is an opportunity for concerned citizens to formally submit their comments to the state before they approve, modify, or reject the permit. We anticipate the state will likely approve the permit with modifications from the hearing. The State’s decision will likely take several months. Written comments are due by November 26th.
The parcels under consideration for mining are currently zoned residential and would need to be rezoned by the county to industrial for mining to occur. Should the County Commissioners decide to approve this project, we would recommend only doing so with additional protections for the environment. We encourage Piedmont Lithium to seek a Conditional Use Rezoning rather than an unrestricted land-use intensification to Industrial (I-3). The conditional use process will allow the county officials, public, and advocates to include additional protections for the community and environment. Gaston County Commissioners have said they will not consider rezoning until Piedmont Lithium secures their State permit.
Catawba Riverkeeper Recommendations
Due to the direct impacts to surface waters via topographic change and indirect impacts from increased impervious surface, Catawba Riverkeeper does not support large construction projects on undeveloped land. However, in addition to the rights of landowners, we recognize that our area’s population is growing and will need more homes, parking lots, landfills, etc. When development is necessary and/or unavoidable we advocate for minimal disturbed area, localized mitigation, transparent monitoring, and the application of low impact designs.
After reviewing the State’s draft permit, Catawba Riverkeeper recommends increasing the minimum stream buffers, mandating the requested NCWRC crayfish study, and providing additional details on the reclamation and mitigation plans. We will be speaking at the hearing and submitting public comments.
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