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Am I reading that new SEC filing correctly>?
It apears several shareholders are either giving back shares?
Or selling them back to Nova?
What am I reading here?
Hey GG that is the single most helpful public post that I have read. Thanks for the heads up on that link.
Thanks GG... Nomo you have mail
Lost - it is a simple process.
You go here:
http://www.secinfo.com
Create an account, which means you need an e-mail address and set a password. Then go and look up the filings of companies you are interested in. When you find the company there will be a box you can check off to be notified via e-mail when they file. Simple as that.
There are many ways of fine tuning things but you'll find them and figure it out soon enough.
Have fun, glad I could help.
GG
Hint - don't go too crazy or typically at the end of each quarter you can get flooded with e-mails. However, like I said you can fine tune things to get notified about only certain filings of a company or everything.
Ehhh,,, How does one go about getting an Email from the SEC?
Just curious, there are posters getting letters from the SEC, Attorney Generals, Lawyers, prosecuters, other posters etc...
Fat ladies are singing...
Why is this stuff not public information?
Do I have to call the secret service to find out where the Fxxxx my money went? I must have missed that phone #
Maybe some of you can reply to some of these Emails and calls you are getting and ask why the hell these players still have access to enough $ to by a big mac with?
nomodo, you made it very clear that it was a no brainer the 3 cases Dahl was talking about would be filed in Georgia, this after you said you found all 3 no problem. Now why would you say something like that if you knew one of the cases was filed in Minnesota? That was a rhetorical question, I'm pretty sure I know the answer.
"Funny you didn't mention that."
Let me refresh your memory... Dahl gave 3 case numbers - not one. Go back to the original post. It concerned tim and IBCL. You claimed that the middle claim was against Microbeguard without offering proof - just baseless accusations. I grabbed a case number from the post and plugged it in - got a hit right away. Didn't even consider a lawsuit against Nova...thought he was referring to his claim against IBCL.
In order for Microbeguard to sue in Minnesota, Nova would have had to have sufficient contacts with the company in that state. If the case isn't found in Georgia, you look to the plaintiff and see what state they are in. Nothing funny about that.
When I received the e-mail from the SEC indicating Moses was selling stock I posted it here. I did that to alert anyone that may still have stock in NVBG to expect to see it go down because Moses selling is certainly not going to help increase the share value in my opinion.
It looks like your opinion was right on the mark on that one.
This board is to discuss Nova.
You and only you have made yourself and your company a part of the discussion.
You have questions about me, then be a man and call.
If you have answers to the questions posted here, then be a man and post them online for everyone to see, instead of asking people to call you.
Why do you not question Nova?
Nova is not posting here, if they were I would have plenty of questions.
The only people that would not be concerned with this is the people that are directly linked to Tim Moses and or Nova.
Not concerned with what? If I was with Nova why would I repeatedly be asking you to post some more information on the cases you filed? What you don't like is that I am also asking questions about you and your company.
Lets put the record straight! What is your name and contact information and how are you related to this company?
I'm not related to this company and I'm not giving you my contact information, you don't need it.
Be a Man, not a coward and answer the question. I bet that you would never do that because your real intentions are far different than what you claim. I think everyone on this board would love to know the truth.
The more you attempt to discredit people that ask you simple questions, questions anyone else would readily answer, the less credibility you will have.
Why should anyone consider anything that you say as fact when you can not even identify yourself? You are obviously hiding something from all of us if you can not come clean.
I'm not asking anyone to take my word on anything, you are. I'm not the one that came here full of so-called facts either, you are. All I'm doing is asking a few simple questions, the same questions many others have asked. i.e.: you say your products are superior to Nova's and you say they are EPA registered products. Now why is it such a big deal to ask you what those EPA registration numbers are? Why do have to go on and on and on with "who is this guy" and "what is he up to"? Orginally I wasn't asking because I give a damn, I was just curious what the difference is, but now since you've raised such a big stink over it I'm alot more curious about you and what you are up to.
No fits here...only by you. Case numbers were given by Dahl.
Let me refresh your memory again, Dahl provided one case number. One case number is not enough to track down the 3 cases he said were filed. You then jumped in saying you had no problem finding the cases with the information Dahl gave here and then basically called me an idiot for not being able to figure out they would have to be filed in Georgia, something you said you learned in your 2nd year of law school. Yet, come to find out, one of them was filed in Minnesota. Funny you didn't mention that.
Why are you fielding every question directed at Dahl?
"If you quit fielding questions for Dahl and threatening to ban people for asking we might find out."
First, this is a public message board. If you have a question only Dahl can answer, email him or call him in private. If you post something here, it is fair game for anyone to comment on. You probably didn't understand this because you only started posting 3 days ago.
Second, never threatened you for anything more than personal attacks. As you stated a few posts ago, you have not provided anything of value yet - short of unfounded accusations.
"You've never demanded someone back up what they say with some kind of proof? I find that hard to believe and what kind of an investment board moderator are you that you would expect anyone to take anything someone says here as fact without seeing some kind of proof?"
See above regarding unfounded accusations. As for Dahl, I called the guy and he supplied me with all kinds of written documentation. All that he asked was to know who was getting the information... after all, he is in litigation. Dahl offered to give you the information as well. Call him up, give him a bogus name and ask for the information, then pass the info to Tim before Thursday (I hear tim may be too busy after then).
"You've been doing nothing but having a fit over a very simple question: what are the case titles, case numbers and location of the courts. Why go into a tailspin over that? What's the big deal?"
No fits here...only by you. Case numbers were given by Dahl. I got tired of your crying, so I looked up the first one on the list. Took me very little time. Had you asked politely instead of calling someone stupid or a criminal, Dahl likely would have provided you information more quickly. If you have a real concern, stop the insults and create a civil dialogue. You may be surprised at what you find.
Welcome back! Great to see you around.
In regard to this comment by NoMoDo:
The other moderator is still around but likely has lost interest after having to deal with the lies of Moses for so long.
You are close. I manage to read the boards and catch up once or twice a week. However, for the most part yes the lies of Moses and the soap opera that continues to swirl around this stock and IBCL demand too much time of which I don't have.
When I say continuing soap opera I mean this: Each time people left BSTI/IBCL/NVBG there was hope touted that things might change for the better. When Todd Smith took the reigns of Nova I spoke with him and explained much of the problems with Moses, Elfersly, Dierdra, Marcello. In other words the cast of characters over the years, the broken promises, the failures, the lies in press releases - etc etc. He said if he found out there was problems that would hurt Nova because the last thing he needs are skeletons in the closet he would get out. He didn't want to waste his time building up Nova only to have these skeletons emerge and suck up his work in building Nova up.
So then I read that he basically sucked in his neighbor to the tune of $400K I pretty much gave up on any hope that either company could ever become anything. The part about Todd Smith's neighbor was posted here by Jurisper from a court filing. Here is the link:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=6606145
And so you don't have to leave this page - here is the relevant text.
THOMAS TOPP INVESTMENT
After separating from BioShield/IBCL in early 2004, Moses became an officer
and director of Nova BioGenetics, Inc. (“NBG”), a Delaware corporation organized
in January 2002, with its principal place of business in Atlanta, Georgia. NBG's
wholly owned subsidiary, Nova Biopharmaceuticals, Inc. (“NBP”), is a privately held
company, also headquartered in Atlanta, that touted itself as being in the business of
discovering, developing and commercializing products aimed at addressing bacterial,
viral and fungal resistance to existing drug therapies. Much of NBG/NBP's
intellectual property, specifically its issued United States patents and patent
applications and foreign patents and patent applications, were transferred to NBG by
IBCL as IBCL was shuttering its operations,12 and NBP has access to such intellectual
property through licensing arrangements with NBG.
To raise capital for its operations, in late 2003 and early 2004, NBP offered to
sell a total of two million shares of unregistered common stock in 25,000-share units.
The NBP stock to be sold in connection with the private placement was priced at
$1.00 per share; consequently, each unit was priced at $25,000, with one unit being
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the minimum available for purchase pursuant to the private placement. Although NBP
offered the units without registration under the federal securities laws (thereby
necessitating that investors be sufficiently sophisticated to justify their investment in
restricted shares), the company disseminated a private offering memorandum
describing NBP, its business and operations, and the uses to which the proceeds of the
private placement would be put, along with a subscription agreement and purchaser
questionnaire.
In early January 2004, Thomas Topp, a German national and chief financial
officer of Heidelberg USA, was approached by his neighbor, Stephan Todd Smith,
regarding investing in NBP pursuant to its private placement of securities. Todd
Smith represented that he had been engaged by NBG/NBP to solicit investment in
NBP in connection with its unregistered offering of 25,000-share units of NBP
common stock. While Topp was interested in investing in NBP, he was concerned
about the risks associated with any such investment given the company's relative lack
of operating history and disclosure of its financial performance. In response to Topp's
concerns regarding the security of his investment, Todd Smith proffered an escrow
agreement in which another NBP investor had escrowed the funds underlying his
purchase of unregistered NBP units until such time, but in no event later than twelve
months, as NBP received a firm underwriting commitment to sell company shares in
13 The evidence will show that by far the majority of funds in the PFG account on or about
February 9, 2004 came from Topp's $400,000 transfer.
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a registered initial public offering (“IPO”), at an IPO price of no less than $5.00 per
share. Topp forwarded the escrow agreement tendered by Todd Smith and the NBP
private placement subscription agreement to his investment advisor at Bank of
America (“B of A”).
After Topp's investment advisor suggested that his investment in NBP would
be secure if Topp and the company entered into an escrow agreement locking up
Topp's funds until NBP had a firm IPO commitment, Topp indicated that, provided
his investment funds were escrowed, he was willing to acquire 16 NBP private
placement units at an aggregate purchase price of $400,000. Topp signed the
subscription agreement, purchaser questionnaire and escrow agreement pertaining to
his $400,000 investment in NBP on or about February 9, 2004. He also directed B of
A to wire $400,000 from his account to Todd Smith's account at B of A, which was
held by Pyramid Financial Group (“PFG”), an entity operated by Todd Smith and
which Topp understood -- and the escrow agreement reflects -- would be the escrow
agent.
After Topp's $400,000 investment hit the PFG account,13 requests were made
to distribute funds from the account, which, because Topp's investment advisors at B
14 Topp ultimately did not have to come to NBP's office because Todd Smith undertook to
bring the investment agreements directly to Topp.
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of A were aware that his funds were to be escrowed, caused B of A to freeze the PFG
account and to call Topp, advising him of the requested distribution of funds. Topp
proceeded to call Todd Smith to question the distributions from the PFG account,
which caused Todd Smith to come over to Topp's home. Topp and Todd Smith then
called Moses to ask about the distributions from the PFG account. In addition to
Moses identifying himself on the call, Topp had previously spoken with Moses by
phone when he was initially prepared to sign the NBP subscription and escrow
agreements and received directions to NBP's offices from Moses.14
Moses represented to Topp that his $400,000 investment in NBP was secure
because Topp's funds had been moved from the PFG account to another escrow
account held by NBP. Moses further represented that this escrow account held
additional investor funds deposited by other investors in NBP's private placement.
The evidence will show, however, that no such transfer of Topp's investment from the
PFG account to any NBP account ever occurred. Moreover, although NBP disclosed
or intended to disclose that it had raised additional investment in connection with the
NBP private placement that exceeded Topp's $400,000 investment, the evidence will
show that no such additional investment was made or that such additional investment
15 A grand jury returned the indictment on September 29, 2004. (Doc. 1).
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had itself been escrowed and therefore was not available as security for Topp's
investment.
Based upon Moses's representation that Topp's $400,000 investment had either
been moved to another NBP escrow account or was otherwise adequately secured, B
of A removed the freeze on the PFG account. Funds were thereafter distributed from
Topp's putatively escrowed investment in the PFG account to pay, among other
things: (1) $30,000 to satisfy a lien lodged by Chapes, Ltd. against the engagement
ring of Moses's wife; (2)$15,000 to a brokerage account at Track Data, over which
Moses held trading authority; (3) $10,000 to pay the legal fees of Jack Martin, Moses's
criminal defense attorney in the instant indictment; and (4) other purely personal
expenses of Moses that were represented to be NBG/NBP expenses. By the fall of
2004, Topp confronted Todd Smith about the status of his $400,000 investment in
NBP, at which time Todd Smith admitted that, notwithstanding the escrow agreement,
Topp's funds had been used to satisfy Moses's obligations associated with the instant
indictment,15 along with his personal expenses.
Accordingly, the government intends to offer the foregoing proof to establish
Moses's awareness that Topp's $400,000 investment in NBP was to be escrowed and
that, notwithstanding such knowledge, Moses both misrepresented the status of the
funds to Topp and took advantage of the investment to satisfy purely personal
obligations, including obligations incurred in defending himself in the instant criminal
action.
Respectfully submitted,
DAVID E. NAHMIAS
UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
/s/
R. JOSEPH BURBY, IV
ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
Georgia Bar No. 094503
/s/
PAUL N. MONNIN
ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
Georgia Bar No. 516612
600 Richard B. Russell Bldg.
75 Spring St., S.W.
Atlanta, GA 30335
(404) 581-6000 (phone)
(404) 581-6181 (fax)
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
This is to certify that I have this day served upon the person listed below a copy
of the foregoing document electronically:
John Richard Martin, Esq.
Martin Brothers, P.C.
500 Grant Building
44 Broad Street, N.W.
Atlanta, GA 30303-2327
This 7th day of June, 2005.
/s/
R. JOSEPH BURBY, IV
ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
The highlighted text above regarding Track Data - please notice it is the same brokerage account listed in the 144 filed earlier this month.
So quite frankly I see little hope of getting any value from investments in either stock. When I received the e-mail from the SEC indicating Moses was selling stock I posted it here. I did that to alert anyone that may still have stock in NVBG to expect to see it go down because Moses selling is certainly not going to help increase the share value in my opinion.
GG
I will be out of town for a very interesting sentencing, so please don't be discouraged when I do not respond until next week.
Should you have any real questions for me, call.
I look forward to hearing from you.
This board is to discuss Nova. You have questions about me, then be a man and call. You will not call me directly because you do not want everyone to know who really are. IS that because you are really with Nova? Anyone who has a question for me can call me directly.
I have posted the lawsuits against Nova, the case numbers and the court in which they were filed. That is fact.
Why do you not question Nova?
Why is it that you are not concerned that this publicly traded company is losing millions of dollars, has minimal sales, facing multiple lawsuits and the founder of the company is being sentenced to prison tomorrow?
The only people that would not be concerned with this is the people that are directly linked to Tim Moses and or Nova.
Lets put the record straight! What is your name and contact information and how are you related to this company?
Be a Man, not a coward and answer the question. I bet that you would never do that because your real intentions are far different than what you claim. I think everyone on this board would love to know the truth.
Why should anyone consider anything that you say as fact when you can not even identify yourself? You are obviously hiding something from all of us if you can not come clean.
Be careful, your rhetoric is about to get you in trouble. Attack the issues, not the people.
Did you give Dahl the same warning after his personal attacks?
No.
What are people suppose to think of that?
What makes you think that Nova filed a lawsuit against Microbeguard? IF they did, on what basis? Nova doesn't have a leg to stand on. Your accusations in the form of a question are absurd. IF you have any facts, then post them. Is it true you are the devil himself? If you say no, can you prove it? Can you see the absurdity in that line of questioning?
I asked the question because it was brought up by numerous people in another forum that Dahl owed Nova a ton of money, a forum that has been completely erased. I'm asking it here because common sense tells me Dahl would be happy to tell me it does not exist, that is if it does not exist. I don't know if Nova has a leg to stand on, how could I or you know if we don't take a look at it? If you quit fielding questions for Dahl and threatening to ban people for asking we might find out.
As for case numbers, what makes you think I need to supply any information to you at all?
You've never demanded someone back up what they say with some kind of proof? I find that hard to believe and what kind of an investment board moderator are you that you would expect anyone to take anything someone says here as fact without seeing some kind of proof? You've been doing nothing but having a fit over a very simple question: what are the case titles, case numbers and location of the courts. Why go into a tailspin over that? What's the big deal?
Be careful, your rhetoric is about to get you in trouble. Attack the issues, not the people.
As for case numbers, what makes you think I need to supply any information to you at all? I don't have time to look up cases for you because you don't have the ability.
What makes you think that Nova filed a lawsuit against Microbeguard? IF they did, on what basis? Nova doesn't have a leg to stand on. Your accusations in the form of a question are absurd. IF you have any facts, then post them. Is it true you are the devil himself? If you say no, can you prove it? Can you see the absurdity in that line of questioning?
Finally, if you were ever to discuss the merits of anything related to Nova, including the merits of...say a worthless patent, then I would celebrate. Dahl had no ability to shut anything down on this board. I am one of two moderators. The other moderator is still around but likely has lost interest after having to deal with the lies of Moses for so long.
Follow the Terms of Service (TOS) and you won't have a problem posting on here.
Let's don't overlook this incrediably stupid comment from Mr. Dahl:
If you think it is not important for the stockholders to know that the company that they are or have invested in is currently involved with multiple lawsuits that threaten the very existence of the company, than you must be Nova.
How many times did I ask nomodo and Dahl for the case numbers, case titles, court locations, ect. on the cases they were talking about? How many posts did it take for me to get it out of them? How many times did I say let's get everything on the table? What was nomodo's response? It was something like I'm not your mother, find it yourself.
How many more times will these two accuse me of being the devil himself before they post the entire text of the cases Dahl filed and then tell us whether or not Nova filed a lawsuit against Microbe Guard? I can't even get a yes or no on the latter.
What about the question of the EPA registrations Dahl says Microbe Guard has on it's products? What's so evil about asking what those numbers are?
Heaven forbid we start discussing the merit of his cases, I'm quite sure Dahl and nomodo will shut that down in a heartbeat.
"I'm not even posting facts"
Now here is something we can all agree on.
Mr. Dahl, What reason do you have for thinking this was a board where you could post anything you want and never get asked any questions?
You can't rant away here and then demand no one ask you questions or discuss your company, products and background. This is an investment board, a place where people discuss the risks associated with investing in Nova. You are a competitor, one that says he has a superior product and a claim against Nova, that alone makes you something associated with the risk of investing in Nova, which means it is perfectly acceptable and important that people do ask you questions and look into what you and your company are all about.
I'll ask you these 2 again:
1) Did Nova file a lawsuit against you? If so, can you explain why and tell us the status of the case?
2) What are the EPA registration numbers on your products?
What could be important then addressing a competitor's claims about their product? You say it's superior and that it's EPA registered. Fine, Ok, but put it on the table and show us.
You've made it apparent that it's your hope that everyone will read you've filed a lawsuit and close the book on Nova. That's not how things work, most people know that anyone can file a lawsuit. Most people also know that it is important to look at who is filing the lawsuit. You refuse to answer any questions about your background including any lawsuits filed against you, issues that have been raise over and over in this forum and other forums. Emory is on the suit but are they the one's bankrolling it? You refuse to even answer that question.
Why else are you, someone that is intentionally hiding their identity and has stated that they do not own any stock, working so hard to hide and discredit the facts.
Is that your best excuse for not answering any questions? You discredit yourself when you make remarks like that. Who I am has no bearing whatsoever on the outcome of anyone's investment in Nova and unlike you I'm not asking anyone to take me for my word on anything, I'm not even posting facts, I'm simply asking you to explain yourself.
State of Minnesota
District Court
Hennipen County
Fourth Judicial District
Court File No. 27-CV-06-633
Microbe Guard, Inc.,a
Minnesota Corporation
Plantiff,
vs.
Timothy C. Moses,
and nova BioGenetics, Inc., a
Delaware Corporation
Nova Specialty Chemicals, Inc., a
Delaware Corporation,
Defendants.
"1) Microbe Guard Filed suit (Case # 27-CV-06-633) against Nova for Deceptive Trade Practices and Fraud."
Which court is that? Tks.
This board is to be used to discuss NOVA, not your own venue to discuss me. If you would like to speak with me and find out all you can about our company and products, then please call. It is rather obvious that you are indeed associated with Nova and are attempting to use this board to draw attention away from the real facts.
1) Microbe Guard Filed suit (Case # 27-CV-06-633) against Nova for Deceptive Trade Practices and Fraud.
2) Emory University and Microbe Guard Filed suit (case # 1:06-cv-00141) against Nova for infringing Patent rights of three patents.
3) The US Bankruptcy Trustee, filed suit or "Adversary Proceeding" (case # 04-92814-JB) COMPLAINT TO AVOID FRAUDULENT TRANSFER AND RECOVER PROPERTY TRANSFERRED against Timothy Moses, Nova BioGenetics and Nova Specialty Chemical
4) Tim Moses, the founder, former officer, current employee and major stock holder of Nova was found guilty of Perjury associated with IBCL (the former company that Tim Moses founded, claiming the inventorship of the water stabilized organosilane chemistry, which was proven in arbitration court that he had not, and in which the fraudulent transfer of assets occurred)Case # 1:04-CR-508-CAP and is getting sentenced to PRISON this week in Atlanta.
5) Emory University invented the water stabilized organosilane chemistry and Tim Moses attempted to claim inventorship. Emory won in arbitration were it was made clear that Moses did not invent technology and that the Technology belongs to Emory.
Let’s discuss these facts. Let’s discuss important issues facing the stockholders of Nova. That is the purpose of this board. If you think it is not important for the stockholders to know that the company that they are or have invested in is currently involved with multiple lawsuits that threaten the very existence of the company, than you must be Nova.
Why else are you, someone that is intentionally hiding their identity and has stated that they do not own any stock, working so hard to hide and discredit the facts.
Nova has serious questions to answer.
What is their response to these facts?
Mr. Dahl, I have no misconceptions, only questions, the same questions you have been asked over and over by many others about your background, your products and the remarks you make about other companies. If you can't respond to those questions in public, in the same forums you have chosen to tear others down in, then it is no misconception that you are hiding something.
Here are 2 easy questions that have nothing to do with your background:
Did Nova file a lawsuit against you and if so what is the status of the case?
What are the EPA registrations numbers on the products you sell?
I didn't see you demanding anyone's phone number when you got online and spent countless hours talking endlessly about how great your EPA registered products are, so why is it you demand that information now when asked what the EPA Registration numbers are on your products? Are we going to see another dozen posts from nomodo and you that totally avoid the above two questions?
I am a current s/o and am interested in not losing my investement in Nova. I have read the information in the Adversary proceeding by Broadfoot but haven't read the infringement suit info yet. I have read the discussion in the many posts below. It seems hard to figure out whether its sore IBCL holders or if the complaints are legitimate.
Obviously Moses is a criminal, which is why he no longer works for Nova.
On the other hand we are in the first quarter of 2006 in which the $60 million contract with Nova kicks in to make them profitable. Even if the two cases go against Nova will they be resolved prior to seeing the first quarter results.
I do have an agenda. To keep/make money in Nova or sell out and run before its worthless.
Can anybody address what the likelyhood of the cases be resolved in the next 4 months is?
Thanks for the advice. And to think, just 2 days ago you didn't exist and now you are telling the moderator of the board not to post.
"nomodo, unless you have something worthwhile to say or some real facts to present I think everyone would prefer you quit responding to posts here."
There seems to be an incredible amount of discussion on my background. I have posted my name and number numerous times and I will do it again. Robert Dahl 763-438-7335. Stop trying to hide your agenda and be a man. Call me, I would love to clear your misconceptions.
I have not posted any lies about Nova or any of their officers. I have been very clear with what I am doing. Should you have an interest in finding out and can not come to your own conclusion here, then call me.
Your rants on this and other sites hold true that you are much more than an ex-stock holder. It appears to me that you are very much involved with Nova. If not, why do you hide your identity? What are you hiding?
Post your contact infor and I will call you and set the record straight.
nomodo, unless you have something worthwhile to say or some real facts to present I think everyone would prefer you quit responding to posts here. You're a complete waste of time.
Really stupid is telling me I don't have a conscience because I ask Dahl about his background and ask him to provide some proof that what he is saying is true. As anyone can see, you were the one that was trying to interfere with any discussion about court cases against Nova, you in fact said you had the information but refused to post it. What could be more useful to investors then information on pending legal cases?
give it a break. you must think that if you spew enough posts, someone may lose sight of the facts that have been provided. Nova is going to be a memory sooner or later. grow a conscience and realize that innocent investors are about to get screwed (again).
nomodo, you're not of any use in this conversation. You hold back facts. You avoid answering questions directly. You accept stuff as fact without proof. You get defensive over anything that is something other then then 5 paragraphs of "Nova sucks". To beat all you're the biggest supporter of the person that is trying to take the patents you think belong to IBCL.
How much weirder does this get?
Jurisper, thank you. That makes 2 lawsuits, I guess we'll just have to figure for now that there is not a third. I'm glad to see someone is interested in laying all the facts out on the table instead of playing games.
Next we need to find out if Nova filed a suit against Microbe Guard and if so what the status of it is. I'm guessing they did because neither Dahl nor nomodo would give me any kind of answer on it. Could it be in a lower court?
Another question for Dahl would be "who is responsible for the legal fees on his side?". I doubt he will answer but I suspect it's Dahl after seeing his sudden rush online to recruit people to turn Nova into the SEC, and his comment about the difficulty of paying legal fees with a low stock price. Paying any legal costs is probably something Dahl agreed to when he signed the license agreement on the patents.
"Look, you are not what I would call a proper moderator for this forum."
Take it up with my boss.
"Is this a forum for open honest discussion or is this a forum where only you and Dahl get to decide what people read?"
Dahl doesn't get a say either. Follow the TOS and you will be fine.
thanks jurisper.
The Nova cases in Fed court in Georgia:
1. 06-06035-jb Broadfoot v. Nova Biogenetics, Inc.
(Bankruptcy court.) Adversary proceeding in the main IBCL Ch7 case (04-92814-jb). IBCL Trustee suing Nova to return IP etc obtained from IBCL in alleged fraudulent conveyance. Filed 1/13/2006.
2. 1:06-cv-00141-RLV Emory University et al v. Nova Biogenetics, Inc. et al.
(Fed district court.) Emory & Microbe Guard suing Nova and TM for patent infringement. Filed 1/20/2006.
Docket sheets:
U.S. Bankruptcy Court
Northern District of Georgia (Atlanta)
Adversary Proceeding #: 06-06035-jb
Assigned to: Judge Joyce Bihary
Related BK Case: 04-92814
Related BK Title: International BioChemical Industries, Inc.
Demand:
Nature of Suit: 454
Date Filed: 01/13/06
Plaintiff
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Herbert C. Broadfoot, II, Chapter 7 Trustee for International Biochemical Industries, Inc. represented by James R. Schulz
Ragsdale, Beals, Hooper & Seigler, LLP
2400 International Tower
229 Peachtree Street, NE
Atlanta, GA 30303-1629
(404) 588-0500
Email: jrschulz@rbhs-llp.com
LEAD ATTORNEY
V.
Defendant
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Nova Biogenetics, Inc.
8601 Dunwoody Place
Suite 338
Atlanta, GA 30350
Filing Date # Docket Text
01/13/2006 1 Complaint (AP 06-6035) against Nova Biogenetics, Inc. to Avoid Fraudulent Transfer and Recover Property Transferred. 454 (Recover Money/Property) filed by Herbert C. Broadfoot, II. (Attachments: # 1 Adversary Cover Sheet) (Schulz, James) Modified text to inlcude AP number. 1/17/2006 (jea)
01/13/2006 2 Request for Issuance of Summons and Notice of PreTrial Instructions 2 Copies Requested. Filed by James R. Schulz on behalf of Herbert C. Broadfoot II. (Schulz, James)
01/17/2006 3 Notice of Pre-Trial Instructions. Service by Plaintiff's Attorney. (jea)
01/17/2006 4 Summons for Nova Biogenetics, Inc. issued on 1/17/2006. Answer due by 2/16/2006. (jea)
01/19/2006 5 Certificate of Service of Summons and Complaint and Notice of Pre-Trial Instructions filed by James R. Schulz on behalf of Herbert C. Broadfoot II. (related document(s) 4 Summons Issued, 1 Complaint, )(Schulz, James)
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U.S. District Court
Northern District of Georgia (Atlanta)
CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1:06-cv-00141-RLV
Emory University et al v. Nova Biogenetics, Inc. et al
Assigned to: Judge Robert L. Vining, Jr
Cause: 28:1338 Patent Infringement
Date Filed: 01/20/2006
Jury Demand: Plaintiff
Nature of Suit: 830 Patent
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Plaintiff
Emory University represented by Jeffrey Brickman
Needle & Rosenberg
999 Peachtree Street
Suite 1000
Atlanta, GA 30309
678-420-9300
Fax: 678-420-9301
Email: jbrickman@needlerosenberg.com
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Lawrence K. Nodine
Needle & Rosenberg
999 Peachtree Street
Suite 1000
Atlanta, GA 30309
678-420-9300
Email: lnodine@needlerosenberg.com
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Thad Charles Kodish
Needle & Rosenberg
999 Peachtree Street
Suite 1000
Atlanta, GA 30309
678-420-9300
Email: tkodish@needlerosenberg.com
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Tina Williams McKeon
Needle & Rosenberg
999 Peachtree Street
Suite 1000
Atlanta, GA 30309
678-420-9300
Email: tmckeon@needlerosenberg.com
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Plaintiff
Microbe Guard, Inc. represented by Jeffrey Brickman
(See above for address)
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Lawrence K. Nodine
(See above for address)
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Thad Charles Kodish
(See above for address)
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Tina Williams McKeon
(See above for address)
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
V.
Defendant
Nova Biogenetics, Inc.
Defendant
Timothy C. Moses
Date Filed # Docket Text
01/20/2006 1 COMPLAINT with Jury Demand filed and summon(s) issued. Consent form to proceed before U.S. Magistrate and pretrial instructions provided. ( Filing fee $ 250 receipt number 546522.), filed by Emory University, Microbe Guard, Inc. (Attachments: # 1 Summons# 2 Civil Cover Sheet)(fkt) Please visit our website at http://www.gand.uscourts.gov to obtain Pretrial Instructions. (Entered: 01/24/2006)
01/26/2006 2 Return of Service Executed by Emory University, Microbe Guard, Inc.. Timothy C. Moses served on 1/22/2006, answer due 2/13/2006. (Nodine, Lawrence) (Entered: 01/26/2006)
* Oops * - fat fingers.
Look, you are not what I would call a proper moderator for this forum. Dahl stated there are 3 cases filed against Nova. When asked for the particulars on each case you quickly rose to his defense only to tell us you know all about the cases but have no intention of telling us what they are about, what the case numbers are, what courts they are in, or what the case titles are. That is except for the one case everyone knows about and that's the claim filed under the IBCL bankruptcy case.
What is that all about? Is this a forum for open honest discussion or is this a forum where only you and Dahl get to decide what people read? Why so defensive and why so hostile over a few simple questions? What possible purpose could it serve you to rise to Dahl's defense the minute anything is asked of him? If someone says this or that is fact others should be to ask them to provide proof and they shouldn't have to go through your gaunlet to do it.
Next we have the question of Dahl's background, you are the only one that seems to think it has nothing to do with this discussion. Everyone else on this planet understands that it does make a difference if a company is being sued by a hard working honest man with deep pockets or by someone deeply in debt with felony convictions.
"Point me to where you got that"
second year of lawschool - civil procedure. International Shoe case made the rule.
OK, what is your full name and what connection do you have with Nova? Seems fair since he told you who he was, you tell us who you are.
You have my full name and I am an ex-stockholder.
Oh, and he answered the question...as I said he did.
No, he never answered the question as to whether or not he is a convicted felon.
nomodo, this is not about the claim filed along with the bankruptcy case, this is about the other 2 cases he said exists including a patent infringement lawsuit. You said they do exist and that you found them - where are they? If you don't know what he is talking about then say so. This forum should be used for finding the facts, not for chasing you around the bush on stuff you say exists but refuse to prove.
This means that I couldn't sue a Georgian in my state unless he had enough contacts with me in my state that he would expect to be sued in my state.
Point me to where you got that.
OK, what is your full name and what connection do you have with Nova? Seems fair since he told you who he was, you tell us who you are.
Oh, and he answered the question...as I said he did.
"Like I said, he did not say it was a Bankruptcy or that it was in a federal court or that it was in Georgia. Had he said it was a bankruptcy I would of known it was in Georgia."
You are wasting my time. Here is the original post:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9428494
"a patent infringement lawsuit and the US Bankruptcy court has filed suit to take back all of the illegally gained assets that were stolen from IBCL (case # 04-92814-JB)"
US Bankruptcy court - bankruptcy. Get it????? If you didn't know it was a federal case still, the US should have given you a clue. As for Georgia... all cases must have proper jurisdiction. This means that I couldn't sue a Georgian in my state unless he had enough contacts with me in my state that he would expect to be sued in my state. IBCL and Nova are both incorporated in Georgia, doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that Georgia was the state. Even if you didn't know, you could still find the case with just the case number by going to federal cases.
I asked him to reply, he took his time, I allowed the posts until he responded. Once he responded, the case is closed.
Why have you taken on the task of deleting posts that Dahl does not want to answer? I could understand if it was a question no one would like to answer, like what is your social security number, but that was not the question. He was asked if he is a convicted felon - is there anyone in this forum that has a problem with answering that question?
"Why doesn't he answer, why are you here trying to keep it from being answered?"
I asked him to reply, he took his time, I allowed the posts until he responded. Once he responded, the case is closed.
As for Dahl's plans, I am not sure what he has in mind. He has never asked me for money. I suggested he work on taking over IBCL and making it a legit company but he refused.
And finally Nova's ability to defend a lawsuit...IBCL has sued and been sued with only money from selling shares. I am guessing that this isn't dahl's goals. With a public company, as long as there are shares, they can milk the shareholders out of any cash needs they may have.
UM...BANKRUPTCY? Federal suit? IBCL is in Georgia... Jurisdiction must be in GA. Lets not play this game. Even if you didn't know what state, you could find it pretty quickly. I took the information from the post and found the case in a matter of 2 minutes.
Like I said, he did not say it was a Bankruptcy or that it was in a federal court or that it was in Georgia. Had he said it was a bankruptcy I would of known it was in Georgia.
Cause I am not your mom. Try this on for size:
1. go to Westlaw
2. click on "court documents"
3. click on "all state and federal cases"
4. click on state (georgia)
5. type in "international biochemical"
and 8 documents will be shown. You now have the tools to easily find what you need. Look it up yourself.
That's exactly what I did and I didn't find any of the current cases Dahl or you are talking about. Why continue to beat around the bush, why are you being so evasive about posting the case titles, a description of the lawsuit, the case numbers and the courts these so-called cases are in? What's the big deal? If you've got the info for heaven's sake post it. Isn't that what this board is for? Isn't that why everyone is here? It's public information, post it. If you continue to refuse to do so I can only assume you are just here to play games.
His post was not deleted because he didn't personally attack you. You are propagating a lie that you started months ago under a different alias (also a violation of TOS).
Bull, it was nothing but a personal attack on me by Dahl that had nothing to do with the topic Dahl started and no I did not propagate a lie months ago under a different alias, if you want to believe that and ban me that is fine by me, I think it will most certainly show everyone that you and Dahl are working togther. No one here, but you, sees the harm in him answering the question as to whether or not he is a convicted felon. The question has been asked a dozen times by a dozen different people in 4 different forums, not just here. It's the kind of question you should ask when someone is trying to get you to invest in mold prevention through the kind of franchise/distributor deal he has been selling. Why do you have a problem with people asking him that question? Why doesn't he answer, why are you here trying to keep it from being answered?
It looks to me like he is defending his patent rights. If I were him, I would try to keep Nova's value so when he wins, he has something to show for it in addition to a worthless patent.
By defending his patent rights you mean by attempting to drive the price of the stock down so that Nova can't raise money to defend the lawsuit? That is what Dahl discusses in his post. Is it legal for him to ask IBCL shareholders to help him in that endeavor? That is what it looks like he is asking, are you there to make sure he gets the message across?
I personally wish he got a hold of IBCL and created a public company licensing his rightful patent to the company.
Don't be naive, if he wanted to do that he would of submitted a plan like that to the court that included giving the shareholders what they are due. What it appears he wants is nothing more then to see Nova go out of business.
Whatever, I could care less what happens. The only value in any of this is that it makes for good argument.
"No he did not say it was federal action or that it was in Georgia,"
UM...BANKRUPTCY? Federal suit? IBCL is in Georgia... Jurisdiction must be in GA. Lets not play this game. Even if you didn't know what state, you could find it pretty quickly. I took the information from the post and found the case in a matter of 2 minutes.
Why did you tell me you found all of them on Westlaw and then tell me to look them up there?"
Cause I am not your mom. Try this on for size:
1. go to Westlaw
2. click on "court documents"
3. click on "all state and federal cases"
4. click on state (georgia)
5. type in "international biochemical"
and 8 documents will be shown. You now have the tools to easily find what you need. Look it up yourself.
No he did not say it was federal action or that it was in Georgia, that must of been something he told you on the phone. What you're giving me now is the IBCL bankruptcy action, I'm aware of that and the trustee's claim, where are the other two you said you found on Westlaw including the one that Dahl said he filed on 1/26/06?
Why did you tell me you found all of them on Westlaw and then tell me to look them up there? You didn't find 3 cases against Nova on Westlaw, I don't even think you have an account with Westlaw because if you did you would known better. I just signd up and did a search and couldn't find anything other then the bankruptcy case. It's no wonder you won't give out the case numbers, titles or court locations, you're just taking Dahl's word for it they are there. You lied to me. Why?
"nomodo, since you didn't delete this personal attack on me but deleted my response to it I have no choice but to assume what about you and Mr. Dahl????. Why is the real question. What is it that you and Dahl have to gain here?"
His post was not deleted because he didn't personally attack you. You are propagating a lie that you started months ago under a different alias (also a violation of TOS).
"On the IBCL board he asks "Who is going to buy their stock now so they can defend?" To me it looks like he is trying to drag Nova down so they are less able to defend the lawsuit he says has been filed. What is your opinion on that, nomodo?"
It looks to me like he is defending his patent rights. If I were him, I would try to keep Nova's value so when he wins, he has something to show for it in addition to a worthless patent.
I personally wish he got a hold of IBCL and created a public company licensing his rightful patent to the company. Then IBCL would have value. I would also have left Nova alive and sued for specific performance since it's income is derived from IBCL's patent. He would then have a choice of crushing Nova or forcing the company to become a legitimate company. Then again, we cannot always get what we want.
How's this? As I said, all you need is the number. You were told it was a federal action, you should know it was in Georgia. You just go to all federal actions, Georgia and put in the docket number. So much for having something to hide.
United States Bankruptcy Court, N.D. Georgia, Atlanta Division.
In Re: INTERNATIONAL BIOCHEMICAL INDUSTRIES, INC. f/d/b/a Bioshield Technologies, Inc., Debtor.
No. 04-92814-JB.
July 19, 2005.
"If you found cases on Westlaw then why don't you give us the title of the cases, the case numbers and the name of the courts? What possible reason would you have for not posting the information other then there is something you want to hide? He gave a number for one case and that was it, no court, no case title."
"nomodo, if you intend to answer questions for Mr. Dahl and intercept questions regarding his background, is it safe for me to assume you work for Mr. Dahl?"
no...not safe. He doesn't work for me either. I am a stockholder in IBCL. I own about 1% still. I played the game and lost quite a bit. From my investment in IBCL, and research that some friends and I did, I now know quite a bit about Moses and his companies.
I am also pretty confident that Nova is worthless at this point. Dahl has provided me some missing information along with resources on where to look to verify.
You on the other hand, are again attempting to confuse readers by making this about a poster. That won't fly.
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