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believe it or not its all ours but it aint happening tomorrow!!!
Well with the big guns coming on board it definitely feels like a very important point of any and all ongoing proceedings. Root root root for the A team to bring this winner home!
Stokd
1:00 PM
$NLST Netlist attorney additions for appeals—Bios linked in my recent posts on them:
Michael Heim—former USPTO patent examiner.
Jonathan Lindsay—focus on PTAB & appeals.
Blair Silver—in top 2% with PTAB & CAFC appeals.
Philip Warrick—USPTO assoc solicitor / USPTO IP counsel detail to Senators / represented USPTO & Director in Fed Court & CAFC appeals.
APPEALS—in addition to Sheasby:
339—Blair Silver—#24-1707
506—Jonathan Lindsay—#24-1521
314—?—#24-1313
523—Philip Warrick—#23-2133
060/160 Director Review rqst—Blair Silver—CAFC appeal next.
215/417 IPRs—Michael Heim
As more appeals are filed I expect these names and other possible additions for Netlist’s appeal efforts. We are stacked with top talent and our winning infringement case attorney Sheasby will lead jury verdict appeals of infringers along with some of these names.
CAFC appeals is where it matters and where the money/damages are made and patent validity/invalidity is affirmed... and we have a winning team to bring it all home.
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Stokd
12:36 PM
$NLST No minutes or orders have been filed from BOC pretrial conference yet. Regardless of what the parties argued for and how they argued... I’m ok with letting them work out issues without diving into the weeds. Mostly interested in the judge’s decisions on pretrial matters and how the trial plays out.
At this point and considering all the pending aspects relying on the outcome, in addition to what we’ve been through on the BOC matter, we just want the result... the rest is trivial. As informative and interesting everything else can be, as it pertains to this case/issue—BOC—only the verdict will suffice for me.
Keep in mind that Netlist can appeal if the judgment/verdict/outcome is adverse. Not sure how much desire there is to watch Samsung attempt to manipulate and misrepresent every aspect to the jury—which will be hard to tolerate and swallow, causing severe frustration—which I don’t plan on entertaining. Perhaps going off the grid till conclusion seems like a wise choice.
Well, fine. I already said I could be mistaken. But - my opinion is that your posts have been thinly veiled in the negative, for the most part. Here is the gist of them:
"Hope we don't get another delay"
"This is depressing to look at!! 912 gets invalidated and we’re done!"
"Not sure why he bothers posting this rather depressing chart that shows all those patents declared invalid by the PTAB!!"
When Optimist101 posted: "For what its worth my thoughts are the new specialists on USPTO and CAFC matters would not have signed on to fight for netlist if they thought everything was actually legit with there decisions. That leads me to hope there is no chance for Samsung and micron to weasel out of all this unless they are paying judges and everybody else under the table. Interesting and exciting times ahead"
You answered with "Money talks" - intimating the belief that the judges ARE getting paid.
WRONG!! I have said nothing negative about the company just the timeline to reach the end goal and the PTAB’s invalidated rubber stamp and not wanting to see that negativity highlighted in some chart.
We all already know they will pay huge damages, the question is when???
anyone hold UBS I sold three days ago up $2.00 since
TOMKiLA
3m
$NLST the market already discounted every single bad news, let’s remember when ptab said no to 912.
We are ready for every single opportunity right now, let’s see the boc and micron trials in the next weeks.
Let’s destroy them, Samsung and micron will pay huge damages
NLST popa chubby is buying shares today, heard it on the msg boards........
My opinion is that Mr. Termonator is a fudster from over on the other board. He just barely joined, has posted on no other iHUb boards and every post has been fairly negative. Could be wrong but....sure seems like it.
Just a refresher for any newbies here.. great article from 2023
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4636479-netlist-deep-dive-high-risk-high-reward-litigation-play
For what its worth my thoughts are the new specialists on USPTO and CAFC matters would not have signed on to fight for netlist if they thought everything was actually legit with there decisions. That leads me to hope there is no chance for samsung and micron to weasel out of all this unless they are paying judges and everybody else under the table. Interesting and exciting times ahead
I’m so dizzy my head is spinning!
Stokd
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$NLST To say that our special matters attorney—wrote POP/Director Review request in 912 IPR regarding Real Party in Interest issue, which was granted but later ruled not RPI—and appeal expert Phillip Warrick is connected is an understatement... and ironically, he actually represented the USPTO and its Director in court on appeal cases at the CAFC. If he’s good enough for the USPTO and its Director in cases at the CAFC, he sounds like an astounding pick to represent Netlist at the CAFC for our appeals, along with our other recent CAFC appeal and PTAB specialist hires—one of which was a USPTO patent examiner (Michael Heim) and other is in the top 2% in appeal wins at the CAFC (Blair Silver).
Link to Philip Warrick's bio/profile below — check out part of it in the screenshot...🔥!!!
https://www.irell.com/professionals-philip-warrick
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Stokd $NLST **UPDATED CHART**
Few changes/developments since 4/26, also reflected Samsung/Micron appeals of PTAB validated patents—will be first CAFC appeal results we get—which should stick considering PTAB’s hindsight obviousness nonsense… safe to say if they could’ve they would’ve invalidated. I would think German case 735 patent invalidity ruling will be appealed as well, perhaps awaiting 660 decision first.
Samsung’s 523 appeal is in late stages—filed July 3/2023—and currently in the process of scheduling Oral Argmnt. Parties provided scheduling conflicts for the first week of the months July-Dec—when CAFC hears cases—Netlist available / Samsung unavailable Aug. Micron’s 314 appeal was filed Dec 29,2023.
Phillip Warrick—big gun from DC/Irell office who has assisted in special matters on certain aspects in Netlist’s litigation—is lead and will argue for Netlist on 523 appeal. I suspect he'll work other appeals with our new appeal specialists. His Bio is impressive! More in next post.
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not a dumb question, but all these scumball companies are in bed together so the only time their gonna throw you under the bus is if there gonna get squashed first, and the very next day its business as usual. the ones that use the product you are supplying are the ones that will go with you as long as you can stay valid. if they can get it legally cheaper they will. some companies are crooked and some companies will pay you. sk and nlst are licensed, i hope to God they renue that contract... sorry for the ramble, i'm sleep deprived.............
Is it possible that SK wouldn't want to chip in on our cause to prevent the people from stealing what they are paying for? Dumb question but just a thought.
SK hynix expects HBM memory chip revenues of over $10 billion in 2024
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/98002/sk-hynix-expects-hbm-memory-chip-revenues-of-over-10-billion-in-2024/index.html
NLST 10-Q Quarterly Report May 06, 2024
https://investors.netlist.com/websites/netlist/English/3200/us-sec-filings.html
Have to say it was a joy to see you posting here. You had gone missing on the old board and we all had worries about you.
Glad to see your still kicking and putting you money in the right places.
I do not post much here on ihub anymore, but check in from time to time. Take care of yourself goof.
Yes. Pacific Time.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.783923/gov.uscourts.cacd.783923.486.0.pdf
Case No. 8:20-cv-00993-MCS (ADS)
NETLIST INC.’S NOTICE OF
MOTION AND MOTION TO
QUASH TRIAL SUBPOENA ON
GAIL SASAKI
Date: May 6, 2024
Time: 2 p.m. PT
Location: Courtroom 7C
Judge: Hon. Mark C. Scarsi
2pm pacific, found it. boc pre
robcobb
5:34 AM
$NLST Very important Samsung pre-trial today.The guidelines for the trial,and what can and can’t be argued at trial will be decided today starting at 2:00 pm Pacific time.What is very interesting is Michael Yoder is still on the list of lawyers to be present!Could be a clerical error,but worth noting. I wonder if Yoder has made a remarkable recovery like with Covid. I guess we will find out soon if he is present today or just a clerical mistake!
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todays boc pre, cali time ? pst that is.. thx man...
lol!!! i luv ya man but that smile can mean either way !!! but it would be fun.........
Appreciate the sentiment, J, and the offer. However, when this finally goes ballistic, insh'Allah, whoever owns more shares pops for dinner [smile]. GLTY and all the rest of the NLST Longs here. Cheers, G
BOC pre trial conference tomorrow !!! yay !!! so far.......... upper right hand corner............
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microby
8:22 AM
jedec members have taken the piss out of Netlist, kept them at a distance and gutted them
I believe that with the DDR4 Trial a small piece of justice can be achieved for Netlist. (‘537 + ‘912 won an appeal before cafc, after ‘537 …..patent ‘215, ‘314, ‘417 was published)
„….So the distributed architecture was rather .. uh .. aggressive at it’s time, when we first came out with that….“
„…So .. here we show a drawing of the .. uh .. distributed buffer concept that the .. JEDEC is promoting for DDR4 and below it you see our actual DIMM design for DDR3 and you notice the similarities (laughs) .. that they are very .. almost identical, aren’t they ?….“
Hong in 2011
😉
Don't you think so too? Naysayers and fact twisters, shut up!
And with that, weekend greetings to almost everyone
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Hers one I'll be watch at open tomorrow SHOT $1.38 would only be a flip
nlst get some baby
lets make some $$$$ to buy more NLST shares
you were correct. for some reason you were on ignore? not sure how that happened. too much red burgundy! lmao! its fixed!
Real good post~! Right on target~! Our patent agency (USPTO / PTAB) and our legal branch cannot discern common sense~?
Unreal how funking stupid everybody becomes when it comes to the money isn't it~? All of a sudden there are many Dolly Dumbs out there and common sense goes out the window.
$NLST baby~!
Durango24k $NLST I thought Michael Heim was fantastic. You could his level of knowledge was superior, not only to Theodore's, but he seemed to have a level of command that even Galligan or Jurgovan had to recognize. I found Michael Heim's explanations easier to understand than that of Theordore's word salad.
Listening to all this, I couldnt help but think that "when it comes to the actual patents, why is it so difficult to establish that a product that uses this particular patent usage, how well would this product designed by the infringers, how well would it work without this patent?" Is it always the default answer of "obviousness". Seems preposterous. I thought Michael Heim explained the differences between JEDEC & Perego quite well.
It's amazing the lengths mankind will go make and protect money. Even the length to design this ridiculous exercise of making a patent owner have to justify the very designs that have advanced a particular industry the way Netlist has.
hope they have the video, its more exciting to watch them get verbally beat up than reading it.
Not sure. In fact, they may just have a link to the transcript of the hearing.
24 hours or more ? if ya know....
I think it will be a bit, before they post up a link to the recording.
gonna listen to it now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but cant get a rebroadcast !!!!
Stokd $NLST These judges are now in a tough spot thanks to their own doing on the 912 and thanks to our new attorney. He schooled them on the patents, and whichever way they decide the 215 & 417 will carry implications on their prior/recent decision on the 912—being patents are connected. So, if they validate any of these two, they will most likely contradict aspects of their invalidity decision on the 912... and if they invalidate these two they will err and provide more reasons for their 912 decision to be overturned by the CAFC. IMO
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Stokd $NLST Samsung's attorney is a one trick pony... when asked to further explain by judges, he just repeats himself at a slower pace, when that doesn't work he goes with misdirection.
It also seem that PTAB judges are desperately looking for any reason to invalidate the patents... when they should be impartial, or at least put in as much effort and desire to prove the patents valid.
They may as well be representing Samsung because they continuously argue on Samsung's behalf... it's obvious and twisted.
But I think they met their match and can't seem to trip up our new attorney who was a former USPTO patent examiner.
https://stocktwits.com/Stokd/message/571760001
Stokd $NLST Netlist just filed a Notice—screenshot below—in BOC case, along with a Witness List—linked below.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.783923/gov.uscourts.cacd.783923.496.0.pdf
Also filed in Micron 294 yesterday was notice that mediation will take place May 8—"On April 26, 2024, the Court entered a sua sponte Order requiring the parties to make additional effort to mediate this case by May 13, 2024. The mediation is currently set to be held in person in Dallas, TX, on May 8"—and due to both parties lead counsel being busy with other engagements, designated backup counsel will act as lead for purposes of mediation, but—"This substitution of lead counsel will in no way diminish the effectiveness of the mediation session for any party, as client representatives with full authority will be present."
"Accordingly, the parties respectfully requests that the Court excuse Mr. Sheasby and Mr. Melsheimer from the mediation and allow Mr. Strabone and Mr. Enzminger to temporarily act as lead counsel for their respective clients at the mediation."
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CAFC BABY !!! just got in and catching up. gilligans got to go.........
Not much doubt in my mind, what the PTAB rulings will be on the Patents we just saw debated in the live hearing. It is obvious that the PTAB desperately needs to rule against these two patents, as they directly relate also to the 912. If they rule in favor of these patents, it will affect their 912 ruling when the CAFC looks at it. Galligan has already made up his mind - that's why he needed Chandler to reinforce the issues he needs, to be able rule against the patents.
PTAB sucks.
In this live PTAB hearing? Galligan is not asking to simply hear Samsungs expert's (Chandler) rebuttal, he is specifically asking Chandler to rebut SPECIFIC POINTS of Heim's testimony. It's ridiculous.
Galligan needs to GO!
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