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lol yup i remember , i'll see if Hong will talk to me about it.
but really our day is coming its just a matter of weather some of us will still be alive to see it.
in the mean time play a few of these that I have three here that you could have bought and made $1.00 on each palt nuvb nova look at the last 3-5 days on them you could hve bought 3000 more shares of nlst lol
not all companies are corrupt.
Come on Dog. You already know the answer to this.
Lady Justice is portrayed wearing a blindfold. Any judge in any case is supposed to represent Lady Justice. While I'm sure Gilstrap and Scarsi have their own opinion about who is guilty here, they have to put aside those opinions and give EACH SIDE every opportunity to prove their side of the argument. If the law allows ANY ploy to be used in their case, the judge is duty bound to let each side use it.
As far as injunctions are concerned? If he was to use an injunction of sales of the accused products? I'd think to be a judge that is completely "blindfolded" until all the evidence is in? He'd have to use it against BOTH sides, while it's decided if the patent claims by Netlist are finally judged as patentable (eventually by the CFAC). I think that such an injunction would certainly hurt Netlist far more than it would hurt Samsung. Netlist is very dependent on revenue supplied by Hynix chip sales at the moment.
That being said - I'm like everyone else here - I think that Samsung, Micron and Google are guilty as sin. Am I prejudiced by my stock ownership? No doubt! I want to see Netlist win.
Unfortunately, I expect more delays amid more appeals.
Unfortunately, it's been that way for a number of years. The legal system bends over backwards and gives EVERY avenue available for accused parties to use, in an effort to "beat the rap". We can see that is happening. We also know that eventually, there will be no more avenues for them to use.
Yup, it is aggravating that it is taking so much time. I look at it like chess. In every game, one player gains the upper hand. Then they force the opposing player to make moves, in an effort to avoid checkmate. As the game progresses, there are fewer and fewer moves that the opposing player can make.
Finally, inevitably, checkmate occurs.
i think its just samscum wanting to push the date out further and further as long as they can get away with it. after all they arent going to win so why not keep delaying. i also think the starting of the trial will commence on that may 6th date because samscum initially proposed that date after saying 1-2 weeks would be good. that 7 page doc explains it rather well..........
pg 5 and 6............
Given that Netlist’s lead counsel will be in Texas preparing back-toback trials starting on April 4 through the April 29 trial, the next available date that
lead counsel can attend the FPTC is May 6, 2024. Netlist will be substantially
prejudiced if its chosen counsel is unable to attend the FPTC due to a pre-existing
conflict.
In contrast, Samsung will suffer no prejudice if the FPTC is reset for May 6,
2024. Netlist reached out to Samsung on March 22, 2024—the day the Court’s order
setting the FPTC date was issued. Sheasby Decl. ¶ 4. Samsung did not substantively respond until March 25, 2024, when it declined to agree. On March 26, 2024 the
parties orally met and conferred. Id. Samsung acknowledged that it has no conflict on
May 6, 2024. Samsung’s only basis for opposing Netlist’s request is that May 6, 2024
is just over one week before the beginning of trial. Id. ¶ 5.
Samsung’s concern is unfounded and directly contradicted by its prior
representation to this Court that the FPTC should take place one week before trial.
The original FPTC date (March 18, 2024) was set with exactly this spacing before the
original trial date (March 26, 2024) at the request of Samsung’s own counsel. Dkt.
391 (MSJ Hearing Tr.) at 12: 2-4 (“The only request that I would make, Your Honor,
is if we could do the final pretrial conference just the week before because of
scheduling issues, that would be appreciated.”). This spacing of the trial and FPTC
dates requested by Samsung to accommodate its own counsel’s schedule, and adopted
by the Court, is equally appropriate now. Samsung claims that the case has somehow
become more complicated, but the case is largely unchanged since the original setting.
Moreover, Samsung has a large legal team (at least seven attorneys attended the last
hearing, including four partners at counsel table) that should have no difficulty
preparing for a 3-4 day trial starting more than a week after May 6.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.783923/gov.uscourts.cacd.783923.483.0.pdf
we'll be ok, but the sooner this happens i'll be happier. then again in reading sheasby's demeanor he doesnt make me feel like he's pissed off over it. lets face it, both sides are ready to go regardless of whats said, and that time slot is open. they know it and the judge does as well. we'll know soon enough..........
They should. The court case DBMM has actually won (#0463) has been declared final on 08/11/2023, and that Samsung willfully infringed on several of Netlists patents.
I don't know why they haven't, since that date. At some point, I assume we will find out why.
i wonder if sk will ever give nlst a plug for their tec ?
Counsel for Samsung informed Netlist that Samsung opposes Netlist’s requested date of May 6, 2024.
‘IP Rights’ is the National High School Debate Topic for 2024-2025
https://ipwatchdog.com/2024/03/25/ip-rights-national-high-school-debate-topic-2024-2025/id=174545/
NLST Case 0993...Netlist v. Samsung...
NETLIST INC.’S NOTICE OF EX
PARTE APPLICATION TO RESET
FINAL PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE
DUE TO CONFLICT WITH
PREVIOUSLY SET TRIAL;
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND
AUTHORITIES
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.783923/gov.uscourts.cacd.783923.483.0.pdf
Nvidia Set to Benefit as SK Hynix Targets Double-Digit DRAM Sales from AI Chips in 2024
https://www.benzinga.com/news/24/03/37954853/nvidia-set-to-benefit-as-sk-hynix-targets-double-digit-dram-sales-from-ai-chips-in-2024
Everyday another delay if one of the Judges can stop Samsung from trading until these suits are settle why and the heck don't they? They are making this take as long as it possibly can...Oh yea I forgot its so Samsung won't have anything to stand on when they appeal!!!!
well guess what Sasmsung will appeal any how.
heres one almost 5 years old from our pr library that says yeah, we know your out there. so like i said, one of these days reality will set in..........
https://investors.netlist.com/websites/netlist/English/2120/us-press-release.html?airportNewsID=e780edc7-9f5f-4850-8278-48e77fcb6603
somewhere down the line the reality has to kick in.
Good article. Nice to have a bit of positive press!
Stokd 47m $NLST The Minutes from yesterday's Micron 628 case Sched/Case Mgmt Conference just dropped as a text only entry... I would think a doc follows soon with details and dates.
"Minute Entry for proceedings held before District Judge Rodney Gilstrap: Scheduling Conference/Case Management Conference held on 3/25/2024. Counsel for the parties appeared. Court asked whether they consented to trial before the U.S. Magistrate Judge. Court proceeded to give counsel Claim Construction and Jury Selection/Trial dates. "
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Netlist: Innovating with Patents
https://medium.com/@manber34/netlist-innovating-with-patents-2ca02ede822e
Netlist, Inc. is a company that has been making waves in the technology industry, thanks to its impressive portfolio of patents. These patents cover a wide range of areas, from server memory to hybrid memory and storage class memory. In this article, we’ll explore Netlist’s patents and their significance.
Netlist holds a portfolio of patents that are critical to the functioning of modern technology. Let’s take a closer look at some of these patents:
U.S. Patent 7,619,912 (‘912 Patent)
This seminal patent has been at the center of Netlist’s litigation battles with tech giants like Google. It covers essential aspects of server memory, including DDR3 and DDR4 server DIMMs. Netlist believes that the teachings of this patent can also be found in future products produced under the DDR5 server DIMM standards.
Recently, the United States District Court for the Northern District of California issued an order granting Netlist’s motion for summary judgment on intervening rights as to claim 16 of the ‘912 patent. This ruling vindicates Netlist’s rights and allows the company to proceed unencumbered by Google’s attempts to escape responsibility for using Netlist’s intellectual property without permission.
Other Patents
Netlist’s patent portfolio extends beyond the ‘912 patent. The company has patents related to rank multiplication, load reduction, and hybrid memory technologies. These patents play a crucial role in advancing memory subsystems and improving performance.
Industry Impact
Netlist’s patents are not just pieces of paper; they have a real impact on the technology landscape. Here’s how:
Litigation Wins
Netlist has successfully won patent infringement cases against major players like Samsung. In one case, the company was awarded a $303 million damages award against Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. This victory underscores the importance of Netlist’s patents and their value in the industry.
Licensing and Implementation
Netlist licenses its intellectual property to companies that implement its technology. These licenses allow other companies to leverage Netlist’s innovations, leading to better products and services for consumers.
Role in AI and Cryptocurrency
Netlist’s patents have a significant impact on emerging technologies, including AI and cryptocurrency:
AI Acceleration
AI applications require high-performance memory solutions. Netlist’s patents related to memory technologies contribute to faster data access and processing, which is essential for AI algorithms.
As AI continues to evolve, Netlist’s innovations will play a vital role in enabling efficient AI training and inference.
Cryptocurrency Mining
Cryptocurrency mining relies heavily on memory-intensive operations. Netlist’s patents related to memory rank multiplication and load reduction can enhance the efficiency of mining rigs.
By optimizing memory access and reducing latency, Netlist’s technologies can improve the performance of cryptocurrency mining hardware.
Conclusion — Industry Impact
Netlist’s commitment to innovation and its robust patent portfolio position the company as a key player in the tech world. As technology continues to evolve, Netlist’s patents will play an essential role in shaping the future of memory and storage solutions, as well as influencing AI and cryptocurrency applications.
maybe micrap didnt want to let us in on there sales data so we could get more money with there delays.............. Micron Secures Street High Price Target Of $225 On Back Of A.I. Fueled Memory Up-cycle https://wccftech.com/micron-secures-street-high-price-target-of-225-on-back-of-a-i-fueled-memory-up-cycle/
Management Conference in the Micron 628 https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txed.226945/gov.uscourts.txed.226945.15.0.pdf
Stokd
51m
$NLST Just a reminder that today at 10am Texas time there was a Scheduling/Case Management Conference in the Micron 628 case with Judge Gilstrap... we should get word through filings soon after.
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Case 2:22-cv-00293-JRG Document 696 Filed 03/25/24
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txed.216364/gov.uscourts.txed.216364.696.0.pdf
SAMSUNG’S NOTICE REGARDING SCHEDULING OF
RELATED TRIAL IN THE CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
Samsung submits this notice to make the Court aware that the trial date in Netlist, Inc. v.
Samsung Elecs. Co., Ltd., 8:20-cv-00993-MCS-ADS (“C.D. Cal. Case”) has been rescheduled to
commence on May 14, 2024, following a request for a continuance due to a medical emergency.
The C.D. Cal. court granted the continuance for good cause; specifically, lead trial counsel for
Samsung in the C.D. Cal. Case recently suffered a medical emergency, rendering him
unavailable to participate in the March 26, 2024 trial date previously set by the C.D. Cal. court.
As a result, Samsung has substituted lead trial counsel for the C.D. Cal. Case and the C.D. Cal.
court held a conference with the parties on March 18, 2024, regarding rescheduling the trial. The
C.D. Cal. court issued an order on March 22, 2022 continuing the trial to May 14, 2024.
Date: March 25, 2024
Respectfully submitted,
Melissa Richards Smith
melissa@gillamsmith.com
/s/ Melissa R. Smith
Ruffin B. Cordell
TX Bar No. 04820550
agreed, otc is doing nothing for us !
like i said, we're not getting any attention...... https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174087369
i do however take for granted sk wouldnt be doing what there doing without our tec. until the time comes we sit silently in the back ground.
TOMKiLA
7:26 AM
$NLST Samsung hbm damages 25 March 2024:
• $122.8M + $235m = $350m (minimum )
These numbers is lower than Samsung forecast for 2024 and 2025!
Ddr5 is still amazing with 40/50% avg growth ( do not forget only this year, dram revenues will growing 80/85% )
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TOMKiLA
6:52 AM
$NLST In poor words, HBM is the biggest opportunity for netlist inc to change the game!
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/96989/hbm-supply-growth-estimated-at-260-in-2024-consumes-14-of-the-dram-industry/index.html
I would imagine that Gilstrap is just as peeved over this additional delay in the BOC case, as all the rest of us are.
I’m sure he has the final verdict and the royalty rate all ready to go for the #0463 case, and he’d like nothing better than to just pronounce it and be done with it. He is waiting along with all the rest of us.
Stokd
Yesterday 11:42 PM
$NLST Make it make sense...
-Samsung: We have not and will not infringe on Netlist patents, they are obvious and unpatentable.
-Also Samsung simultaneously: We paid for and have a right to Netlist patents because we did not breach the JDLA/contract.
What am I missing... another example of contradicting positions on Samsung's behalf.
Stokd
Yesterday 11:33 PM
$NLST It’s pretty wild and absurd if you think about it: Samsung claims to have paid Netlist for a license through the JDLA for the use of patents—not contingent on a supply obligation is the assertion in the BOC case—and are currently fighting in the BOC case for their right to Netlist IP.
Yet in infringement and parallel proceedings at the PTAB, Samsung is challenging the validity and trying to render useless the same patents they claimed to have paid for and put value on when signing the JDLA. So if they think Netlist patents are obvious, why do they want/need a license to Netlist patents through the JDLA… just give up the BOC case/trial and relinquish any pursuit of Netlist’s “obvious” and “needless” patents.
While they continue with these arguments/theories, the timing and alignment of cases really exposes the parody like mockery of it. I'll have another drink and ponder further... the layers.
SilviaJ
2:07 AM
$NLST In less than 3 weeks, by April 12th, we will know the status of our HBM patents. And though I was disappointing when the judges deemed the DDR5 patents obvious, I always felt as the HBM patents had a better chance at surviving an IPR review.
In my opinion, what makes them "not obvious" is the way NLST has the "First die interconnects in electrical communication with array dies but “Not In Electrical Communication” with Group 2 array dies".
In the prior art Samsung uses (Riho), data ports that can be switched on and off but are ALWAYS in electrical communication because of the wave that goes back and forth when you initiate a transaction.
Both Samsung and Micron argue they are still in “electrical communication” in district court and NLST agreed.
Also, Samsung's expert admits that the Kim (prior art) modification to Riho renders the design inoperative because of data collisions.
The judges will be hard-pressed to argue that NLST's breakthrough is obvious.
https://stocktwits.com/SilviaJ/message/567002126
$MU $SSNLF $GOOG couldn’t help but steal Netlist’s groundbreaking technology.
https://netlist.com/products/ai-server/#hbm-m
https://stocktwits.com/NLST4EVER/message/567002074
HighEnergyCat
1:34 AM
With the growth in chip sales since March of 2023 when the $303M judgement came down on Samsung's head, and after Samsung is crushed in the Breach of Contract case in May, Judge Gilstrap's ruling on royalties plus interest will be especially painful for Samsung. I am thinking the tab so far should be close to a billion dollars.
https://stocktwits.com/HighEnergyCat/message/567001577
SilviaJ
12:45 AM
$NLST "HBM memory is very complicated and the value added is very high. We are spending a lot of money on HBM," Jensen Huang, Nvidia co-founder and CEO, said at a media briefing on Tuesday in San Jose, California.
"HBM is a technology miracle," said Huang, adding that HBM also improves energy efficiency and can help make the world more sustainable as power-hungry AI chips become more prevalent.
https://stocktwits.com/SilviaJ/message/567000718
Stokd 8:00 PM $NLST Hearings/Trials in the next *7* weeks:
Mar 25 — Micron 628 case Scheduling/Management Conference.
Apr 11 — Germany Google/Micron cases Infringement Hearing.
Apr 15 — BOC case Pretrial Conference.
Apr 29 — Micron 294 case Trial.
May 14 — BOC Trial.
The resolution/conclusion of the above open up the next developments/catalysts that we're awaiting:
—Gilstrap decision for Ongoing Royalty.
—Gilstrap to set trial date for Samsung 293 case.
—Samsung/Google Delaware case to resume.
—Micron 203 trial after IPR FWDs on 060 & 160 patents by Apr 12.
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i hate when people give in to those who dont deserve it. this trial is ready to go tomorrow. i guess they need more time to twist adjectives and stories to sound better than yoder because they werent paying attention in the first place. nothing they are going to say can change what they already said, they got caught lying and boxed themselves in. but i can see the point of giving them the time so they cant claim they didnt get enough to prepare. there toast...........
about time, i hope he hammers them.
So Scarsi pretty much gave in to Samsung. Samsung stated they wanted a continuance to “mid May to mid June”. He gave them mid May.
That’s actually pretty smart. Now Samsung won’t be able to say the Judge prejudiced them by cutting down on the time they requested/needed, to spool up their new lead attorney.
Really, what’s another month or two? Means nothing to the final outcome - a Samsung loss!
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.783923/gov.uscourts.cacd.783923.479.0.pdf
Scarsi - Trial dates set!
April 15th Final pre trial conference.
May 14th, first day of trial.
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