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Stokd
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$NLST Remember that anything we win—patents/trials—needs to hold up on appeal. You really want Gilstrap to be tough on Micron by allowing trial to proceed regardless of issues with their key expert witness? Whether they're unprepared or can’t find a replacement and have to go with previous deposition testimony… anything that may cause the CAFC to reach a conclusion that Gilstrap erred or the defendant didn’t have a fair trial or was denied due process, is exactly what we want to avoid.
Gilstrap knows it and so does Sheasby. So think this through, take a broad perspective, and realize that it doesn't matter how this went down or the specifics regarding how Micron and the witness played this... it needs to be handled with a future appeal in mind. SO... my perspective is that I am glad cool heads prevailed and Gilstrap/Sheasby are giving reasonable allowances to Micron. While it sounds like some here would have trampled on Micron's rights only to see any win evaporate on appeal.
microby
7m
I consider Stone to have a lot of integrity. one of his statements regarding Samsung's '160 invalidate bullshit,
HBM would never run with Wolfe's idea of combining existing circuits
„….. I don’t think you can build that….“
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i'm just glad this will be the last litigation play i will ever be involved in. fair enough ?
Ah, but don't delays that never end equate to a Stay?!?. Micron doesn't care what its called as long as it never sees the courtroom. I really really hope Gilstrap is fuming inside realizing he and his court are being manipulated and made a mockery of. Not that he can 'take it out on them' when it eventually comes before him, but hopefully he's 'fairly' against them.
Stokd
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$NLST Folks need to understand the difference between delay vs stay. Stay of a case would be pending CAFC appeal of IPR decision of invalidity, but a delay is simply predicated on any number of reason and is limited.
The reason is, infringers want the CAFC to affirm PTAB's invalidation so the case/trial never resumes... that is not going to happen in this case or any other case I believe. The only case further from trial is Micron WD, but includes PTAB validated patents, and even if Micron's IPR CAFC appeals on those patents concludes before trial, it is very doubtful the CAFC reverses validation on all, if any.
Stay is much worse than a delay, and Gilstrap indicated he does not intend to stay the case/trial. So while I can understand the frustration, I believe many emotions are misguided—and the stock did come all the way back to even today—which shows sentiment and thesis is intact.
i agree 100% except for this, ''It's getting fairly ridiculous.'' it already is beyond ridiculous.
It certainly seems that Samsung and Micron are able to manipulate this court in anyway and at any time they want to.
I'd love to see Gilstrap put a stop it. But then again, if there is ANYTHING available for Micron to use as grounds for an appeal, they'd certainly take advantage of it. There has been LOTS of delays but this is merely just three more weeks.
At some point though, Gilstrap will get angry and simply say no, to any more excuses for further delays.
It's getting fairly ridiculous.
Stokd
3m
$NLST One more thing to keep in mind—it is not good for Micron to lose one of their main expert witnesses—their council and case must be in chaos right now. Though the delay also affects us, the situation/circumstances are much more detrimental to Micron. So keep perspective and focus on the negative aspects this presents to Micron, and not the limited delay we will experience. As I mentioned in my previous post, there is plenty of litigation and trials to get to, and given the unprecedented circumstances which are not of Netlist's making, something positive can come out of this. Remember that timing has a lot to do with how things play out, and we cannot at this time determine if it is ultimately favorable or not... despite how we feel about it as investors and having waited beyond our patience threshold.
i'm hearing 27 days, may 20th now. this is bs and they will try another bs move between now and then. anyone want to bet ?
Stokd
8m
$NLST The good news is we now know Gilstrap is against a stay for this trial, which includes the 912, which was invalidated by PTAB. Meaning he will not stay the Samsung 293 case trial on the same patents, and it looks more like he may proceed to trial on the Micron 203 case—given he seems to not want to stay after PTAB invalidation, and if he intended to stay he would have already as the 060/160 IPR decisions came in Apr 1st.
So maybe he schedules another trial while we wait for things to get figured out in 294 case. Let things unfold, there is plenty going on for Netlist, and with Gilstrap on the side of Netlist having their day in court and getting justice, I think he's going to do us right.
Yeah. I kind of suspected it would be another delay. Stokd over on the other board said there has been no trial date set tho. For what it's worth....
Stokd
15m
$NLST Obvious someone didn't want investors to know what happens on the call and how it's resolved/moving forward, as the call progressed interference got worse where nothing could be heard… deliberate.
Not sure many grasped exactly what was said and occurred... and we never heard the rest of the call thanks to manipulation.
It's not the worst scenario, but to set the record straight, what I heard is Gilstrap nor the parties agreed to trial date of May 20th, Gilstrap only said it's his next available date for trial. Issue is that IF Micron can get their witness to still be available, the 20th may work, but if not, they will need much more time to find another witness and adopt the expert reports from the witness who can’t attend. Gilstrap is against a stay, but little control over circumstances, which need to play out.
MEANING — there is no trial date set yet, we don’t know when things will be figured out, and are awaiting Gilstrap’s word/order/scheduling on how things proceed forward.
Yes I agree its not like she just came down with this disease today. Its unbelieveable the her husdband would do something like this.
Heck I been waitng over five yrs and have seen this happen to everytrial date thats been set before so nothing new to me.
I think it was just a stall tactic by Micron that unfortunately worked for them but for only for 3 weeks. The wife of their expert has probably been sick with this rare disease for a while, why would they only bring it to the courts attention only a few days before the trial starts? To stall the trial of course. At least we now know the judge wants to move along with this and he said it has already been delayed and he is not interested in granting more time. Three weeks is nothing and most humans would probably feel compelled to do something when someone terminally ill involved. Dirty of Micron to try to use it to their advantage.
Did Judge Gilstrap even ask to see a note from the wife's doctor?
cancled and rescheduled for may 20 what i'm hearing now not sure this is true
I believe he’s been waiting for Scarsi to finish with the CA BOC case. I think that was already stated in one of the filings by Netlist.
But even better? Maybe there’s been an offer of settlement?? I doubt that, considering the PTAB rulings and how Micron has been asking again and again for the case to be stayed.
But who knows??!
maybe Gilstrap is announcing the Samsung royalties? wouldn't that be something
more bs, period. micrap knows its going to lose.
Notice of Hearing:
NLST doc108 in the 294 Apr 23, 2024
Sealed Document - Plaintiff's Response to Micron Defendants' Notice of Additional Facts Regarding Defendants' Opposed Motion for Continuance (Dkt. 107) (Sheasby, Jason) (Entered: 04/23/2024)
Main Document
Sealed Document
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64861663/netlist-inc-v-micron-technology-texas-llc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc
looks like .05 is the number to beat........ https://sih-st-charts.stocktwits-cdn.com/production/original_570530929.png
any one know the estimate we need to beat for friday ? https://investors.netlist.com/websites/netlist/English/2120/us-press-release.html?airportNewsID=19393a5f-21a3-47a8-9587-e64c2ca72239
Looking forward to this
TOMKiLA
55m
$NLST “the ‘912 p. Played a large part in Google’s dominance in search. “
Ready for the trails, ready to see huge amount of cash 💰
Against Samsung and micron
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6 more days till the fun starts !!!
gilstrap will do the same thing to micrap as he did scamsung. he will tell them your ptab bs is meaningless in my court room.
Case 2:22-cv-00294-JRG Document 106 Filed 04/22/24
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txed.216365/gov.uscourts.txed.216365.106.0.pdf
PTAB Institutes IPR Despite Delayed Sotera Stipulation
February 16, 2024
https://www.akingump.com/en/insights/blogs/ip-newsflash/ptab-institutes-ipr-despite-delayed-sotera-stipulation
Stokd $NLST The new notice in the Micron 294 case is just their Sotera stipulation… it’s standard and something Samsung filed in all their cases—not sure what took Micron so long, expected much sooner.
“Micron will no longer pursue invalidity defenses in this action (C.A. No. 2:22-CV-00294-JRG) that the patent claims subject to the instituted IPRs are invalid based on grounds that were raised or reasonably could have been raised in the IPRs.”
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it would be nice for sk to drop our ticker symbol in a pr once in awhile, or do you think because we're in litigation and on the otc there instructed not to????????? who cares....soon enough........
https://www.thelec.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=4808
To those that observe...Happy Passover...
Stokd $NLST Netlist just responded to both Micron motions in the 294 case regarding Apr 29 trial—day early on the Continuance—so we should hear from Gilstrap anytime.
Both motions and responses are sealed.
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no offense taken, i'm fully aware of where that verbiage originates. but believe me you the context in which i'm currently using it, is whats going to happen lol !!! yeah i've been shot at, i earned my degree,we'll leave it at that lol !!! my go to's keep me from letting it overwhelm me !!! it aint all wine, woman and song out there in the world...........
peace my brother...........
6bux or better by the end of june is my call !!! if not, yeah i know how to wait!!!
Respectfully, as a Vietnam Vet I just wonder if you realize what you're exhorting us to do when you shout out, as it were, that we "Get some!!". Admittedly, my momentary flashes of PTSD-type sweats are minor these sixty years later, but simply wanted to mention it in case you're not aware. I would never ask anyone to not speak their mind, and I can handle reading it occasionally; perhaps you also are a Viet Vet, if so, forgive my big mouth. Appreciate all you do otherwise [smile], and please keep up the good work!! Cheers
as did you just alittle bt luckier
we won the 29th trial. lets wait and see how we did it. be hard pressed for a start to beat that, other than them forfeiting before hand...........
i thought it would go higher the last time it hit 6. did buy my share of 102-120's though. those i want 6 or more for and actually thought i 'd have it by now. thats why i'm sayin if those 3 things happen by the end of june and they dont let this run it will look horribly criminal.........
As usual, I will try to err on the side of caution. I know that people say the PTAB rulings have no weight inside a federal court, while they are still able to be appealed. We still must await the appeal to the CAFC, and their rulings on these PTAB verdicts.
Still, I believe there are cases in work in which the PTAB rulings were in favor of Netlist patents! These should be easy courtroom wins.
There's light at the end of the tunnel.
my friend says you got a good deal
sure seems like this should already be higher one of these days this will run like a scalded dog..
ummmmmmm........ that dog better be ready for a run to 6 and higher and i'll make sure he gets a good home !!! i'm excited for the next 3 outcomes, 29 trial, boc verdict, strap slappin on the going rate. if that can happen in a month we should run.... no delays no delays no delays........... is june a possibility ? lol !!!
you know there getting hammered just because they never had a license. how much is up to a jury, and when is as good as guess as anyone else's, sound about right to you ? i feel 10x more confident on winning this than the prior, and we won the priore unanimously, willful infringement, who knows how much, could be less but we are winning this..........
NLST BABY !!!
GET SOME !!!
price is reflecting the shorts nervousness
Case 2:22-cv-00294-JRG Document 102 Filed 04/22/24
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txed.216365/gov.uscourts.txed.216365.102.0.pdf
One week until Jury Selection and Trial Day 1 against Micron - Case #0294!
my 1.02's are looking alittle better that your 1.07's lol
$NLST freed up another 2500 should I wait for the dip or buy before the RIP. that 1500@1.07 is looking guuuud
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