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BR is playing with the power switch again. lol
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How can any posts, at this point in time, play with our emotions? My emotions, regarding this bankruptcy, have gone out the window years ago. Everyone is just pulling at straws. I’ve come to the conclusion that no one here really knows anything concerning what is going on except the ones pulling the strings behind the scenes. How did I come to this conclusion: 15 plus years!
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Board post - anyone know what happened to the BP message board? Over there you get real info.
Do you know why he keeps doing that? I also have the same doubt for a long time.
Does he have a habit to fool around the people on the board, making your emotions one day high, and the other day low. String on a puppet to make a joy himself.
there is a misconception on this message board that has persisted for years by which it is said the shareholders "own the estate"... this statement is false as illustrated by the following points:.... (1) WMI states that TITLE TO ALL ASSETS BELONG TO THE REORGANIZED DEBTOR , now called WMIH by reorganization...(2)... shareholders own assets minus liabilities call equity... thus, shareholders own the accumulated equity of a company which is solvent, NOT THE CORPORATION ... (3) WMI went through a reorganization of assets where creditor claims were paid as well as equity values in the old company were completed, and emerged from chapter 11 as a different company with new shares being issued to former shareholders as a continuum transfer, not a liquidation of the prior company....in essence the same "ship" with another name and different executive officers... Lodas
IF FDIC IS NOT DONE YET, WMILT ALREADY DONE?, LOL.
This is all related to 'DTCC Common Stock' ownership...How is this even remotely related to WaMu P/K/Common stock?
As usual, RD's meandering eyes get 'entranced' by some 'Shiny Object' and he says OK, "Jump' and the others scream in unison 'How High', without even bothering to look at what he posted....
If we got $100 per P in the next 3 months I would be happy as heck. I just hope we get something soon.
Well keep us posted this is really confusing to me. I don’t know what the amounts will be per share, p’s K’s or U’s. Will we get the amount of shares we released or what? They made it confusing for a reason I guess.
300 billion cold be our value if the get 1% because 50k 1 share = 59k $ is the amount to cover them for 3 years
To account for 75/25 they have used there own formula for any distribution before any placement in our accounts.Participant are our brokerage and we are their clients.
DENNY This is a process to create a fund for the 1% fee for the dtcc services the Series A and B notes and other instruments to the participants. Settlement date April 30th. There is also a possibility to follow the money move during all of April.
Royal I’ve read this a couple of times. I am confused as to how this is done.
How is it just over 50K commons are allocated, I don’t see the 19:1 share in the filing. Can you possibly explain it in layman’s terms?
Silly Rabbit, TRIX are for kids
SUUUUUUUUUURE!!!!!!!!!!
Professional Liability Annual Report for 2023
https://www.fdic.gov/resources/resolutions/professional-liability/annual-reports/pl-2023-annual-report.pdf
Authorized and Pending Lawsuits
During 2023, the FDIC Board of Directors approved one, and delegated authority
approved four, MMF cases, all of which authorized the FDIC to sue mortgage brokers for
indemnification. The largest of the five approved cases is against CTX Mortgage Company,
LLC (CTX), and Pulte Mortgage, LLC (Pulte Mortgage) as successor to CTX, for loans that CTX
brokered to Washington Mutual Bank (WaMu), Henderson, Nevada, and that WaMu in turn
sold to RMBS trusts. The FDIC settled claims related to defective loans that WaMu sold to
RMBS trusts for a $3 billion receivership certificate. Because CTX contractually agreed to
indemnify WaMu for losses resulting from defective loans it brokered to WaMu, the FDIC seeks
to recover the portion of its settlement with the RMBS trustee attributable to losses on the
CTX loans. On August 28, the FDIC filed the approved lawsuit against CTX and Pulte Mortgage
in federal court in the Central District of California seeking contractual indemnification plus
attorney’s fees and pre-judgment interest. In total, the FDIC filed 11 MMF lawsuits during the
year. WaMu failed on September 25, 2008, with $307 billion in assets.
CASH IS COMING TODAY to the participants unless they steal
DTC has received notification from Bank of New York Mellon/IPA DTC #1541, the issuing paying agent for GS Finance Corporation (GSG4), base issuer cusip 36255H, 40054K, 40054L, 40055A, 40055Q, 40056E, 40056F, 40056Y, 40057C, 40057E, 40057F, 40057H, 40057J, 40057K, 40057L, 40057M, 40057N, 40057P, 40057R, 40057T, 40057W, 40057X, 40057Y, that #1541 has refused to pay Interest Payments, Maturity Presentments and Reorg Presentments for this Issuer’s Medium Term Note that are due and payable on 04/01/24 through DTC. Therefore, in accordance with DTC’s rules and procedures, this Issuer’s Medium Term Note will not be completed. Bank of New York Mellon/IPA DTC #1541 has notified DTC that they received the funds after the DTC cutoff to make a funding decision and that they will pay Interest Payments, Maturity Presentments and Reorg Presentments for this Issuer’s Medium Term Note that are due and payable on 04/02/24.
DTCC.COM
www.dtcc.com
https://www.dtcc.com/-/media/Files/pdf/2024/4/1/19919-24.pdf?fbclid=IwAR33d4PL8kf5SObvLggjKn-N2tfVNHPpeYOHq_ApglXrZRsZLyLARO4dJbo_aem_ASCHm8EIltMc0r45pZZzFtlpnbZOzann7q0iackY3397M5wru9ddLuRlc646ft7TmpBN5T6NEtMr5uf8prWqLAYL
If not, they are stealing all notes coming from JPM
Remember, this whole exercise is to transfer non interest bearing notes value to the medium notes payable to legacy first month to be payable June 1st.
Hope youre right but I'm not going to quit my day job.
LOL
Started on April 2 and delayed 1 day
Yes at 53 k pps 3 billion for fees 1 % for 307 billion
Dont hold your breath.
The 50 k of shares is for payment of fees for DTCC. This is for date timeline only settlement April 30th without a tie to jpm.
item 8
Only 50,907.78311 commons issued
How to distribute to all participants?
DTCC notes 263 participants. If they each get 1 share thats $15mm. LOL
I just dont see anything of interest here. We've had thousands of these theories and possibilities through the years and none have put money in our accounts.
Lets hope Libor bears fruit. If not I will start to worry that the crooks have won and we all got bent over.
AZCowboy, I remember KKR Wand and KKR Fund owning Series A and B preferred stock... I am not sure if this is related to your post but just in case, I am providing it anyway.... See below..
ND9
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WHEREAS, KKR Wand owns 200,000 shares of 5.00% Series B convertible preferred stock (the “Series B Preferred Shares”) of the Company and consented to the Amendment (as defined in the Original Agreement) to the 2018 Amended Charter (as defined in the Original Agreement);
WHEREAS, KKR Fund owns 1,000,000 shares of Series A convertible preferred stock of the Company (the “Series A Preferred Shares”), and warrants to purchase 30,700,000 shares of common stock, par value $0.00001, of the Company (“Common Stock”) at an exercise price of $1.32 per share (the “Tranche A Warrants”) and 30,700,000 shares of Common Stock at an exercise price of $1.43 per share (the “Tranche B Warrants” and together with the Tranche A Warrants, the “Warrants’) and consented to the Amendment (as defined in the Original Agreement) to the 2018 Amended Charter (as defined in the Original Agreement);
https://contracts.justia.com/companies/mr-cooper-group-inc-7825/contract/319734/
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUNNY REALLY TOOOOOOOO FUNNY
T. Cactus stated in a post that he sold a majority of his shares at 46.00…then the rest at 50.00 and coop was no longer the tell…maybe he got back in as coop is a great buy as I see it doubling…now he states coop is the tell…..
So then it must be so!
I dont see this tying into us at all.
I want to get paid as much as anyone but geesh. Keep it real. I dont see any relation. Hope I am wrong.
As for 75 25. I see both sides. The commons usually inherit the estate in a bk.
But in our case the decree says 75 25 and Im sure the hedgies would Not have allowed the commons into the party and then give them everything. So our case is different. I agree with the smart board. 75 25
Libor is up to bat. No way does our case go to trial. Too risky. Jamie doesnt look good in orange. Lets hope the judge swings for the fences.
Thank you
NOW sir do you KNOW THAT YOU DO NOT OWN ONE SHARE of ANYTHING that shows in your acct.
DO you KNOW what the word CEDE MEANS????? and you have knowingly or unknowingly have CEDE ED any right to any shares in your acct.
ANd that anything in your accts can be immediately deemed a US PROPERTY in the case of a NATIONAL EMERGENCY
IN SHORT the DTCC/CEDE OWNS any and all stocks in your accts and JUST PROMISES TO TRANSACT THEM AS YOU SO DEEM.................
YOU DON"T OWN SQUAT do some DD about the 33 trillion DOLLAR LITTLE KNOWN COMPANY CALLED DTCC/CEDE
Dictionary
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cede
/sed/
verb
verb: cede; 3rd person present: cedes; past tense: ceded; past participle: ceded; gerund or present participle: ceding
give up (power or territory).
"he ceded control of the company to his brother"
LARGE GREEN
""Common stockholders are last in line when it comes to company assets, which means they will be paid out after creditors, bondholders, and preferred shareholders""
AND THE COURT DIDN'T LIKE that because of what the DIPS DID(IT) SO it ordered a Negotiated SETTLEMENT
BUT IN THIS INSTANCE THE PREFERDS WERE NOT NOT NOT CAPPED at full and only face value as it was a NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT IN CASE THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TO GO AROUND,,,,, ALL WOULD BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE UP TO their respective 75/25% ""OF ANY AND ALL RETURNS.
SOrry Charlie ya can't have it both ways and they CHOSE THIS WAY, ANYONE WONDER WHY THE DIPS chose this way???????? HMM TRY 75 beats 25
OR they would have been capped at face AND IN THAT CASE the commons would have inherited the bulk of the estate
SOrry folks they DID NOT NEGOTIATE THEMSELVES INTO BEING SUBORDINATE TO COMMONS, NO WAY NO HOW
This post:
What is the DTCC?
Answer
Based on the search results provided, the Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation (DTCC) is an American post-trade financial services company that provides clearing and settlement services for the financial markets. Here are the key points about the DTCC:
The DTCC was established in 1999 as a holding company that combined the functions of the Depository Trust Company (DTC) and the National Securities Clearing Corporation (NSCC) 13.
The DTCC is user-owned and directed, and it automates, centralizes, standardizes, and streamlines processes in the capital markets3.
Through its subsidiaries, the DTCC provides clearance, settlement, and information services for a wide range of securities products, including equities, corporate and municipal bonds, derivatives, mutual funds, and more12345.
The DTCC's subsidiary, the Depository Trust Company (DTC), was established in 1973 to reduce costs and provide clearing and settlement efficiencies by immobilizing securities and making "book-entry" changes to ownership34.
The DTCC settles the vast majority of securities transactions in the U.S., processing trillions of dollars of securities on a daily basis. Settlement is an important step that contributes to investor confidence and reduces market risk12345.
The DTCC is regulated by the Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) and is a member of the U.S. Federal Reserve System34.
In summary, the DTCC is a critical financial infrastructure company that provides essential clearing, settlement, and other services to support the smooth functioning of the U.S. securities markets. 12345
Origins and Founding
The Depository Trust Company (DTC) and the National Securities Clearing Corporation (NSCC) were both founded in the 1970s as a result of the market's inability to keep up with the large volumes of securities trades. 12
DTC was founded in 1973 to solve the "paperwork crisis" on Wall Street by providing a centralized depository for securities certificates. 2
NSCC was founded in 1976 to provide clearing and settlement services. 1
Consolidation into DTCC
In 1999, DTC and NSCC were consolidated into the Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation (DTCC), which became the parent company overseeing these subsidiaries. 45
The creation of DTCC helped automate, centralize, standardize, and streamline the financial markets by providing integrated clearing, settlement, and asset servicing.
Agree and the (SD) Subordinated Debt or the 15B in bonds since they were placed in Tranche Five with Equity in Tranche Six
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LG, I see the P’s and U’s being paid in tandem, not one and then the other.
BBANBOB, you said the following.
And in my math classes over the years 75% beats 25% in a BIG WAY
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Let us look at it in another way since the 75/25 is a trigger that sends some into Nutzville. All one has to do is look up the meaning of PREFERRED so in most people's English classes Preferred means ahead of others or simply a PRIORITY.
Preferred shareholders have priority over a company's income, meaning they are paid dividends before common shareholders.
Common stockholders are last in line when it comes to company assets, which means they will be paid out after creditors, bondholders, and preferred shareholders.
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Specifically what post as to what the DTCC is
ANd got a ? for you, DO YOU HONESTLY even UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DTCC/CEDE IS IS IS REALLY IS IS IS YOURSELF????????? ANd this is NOT meant to be offensive or belittling in ANY WAY form or fashion. HONESTLY
Of course it has nothing to do with Escrows - anyone with basic reading comprehension skills can see that.
Just like BofA bonds, JPM pref buy-backs or Novo Nordisk dividends have nothing to do with Escrows.
But who cares - it’s just about creating another failed theory for a grateful audience.
Goodie
PLAIN and SIMPLY YOU and I and ALL here are nothing but MUSHROOMS that have been kept in the dark and FED CHIT
THis has all been an under the cover of smoke and mirrors since day one, SO NOW YOU CAN TELL ME or US this has NOTHING TO DO WITH us especailly with the timing of it !!!!!!!!!!!!
SOrry all here are still theorizing and trying to make sense of any of this, SO AGAIN
DO WE ACTUALLY KNOW IF IT IS OR ISN'T RELATED >>>>>>>>YET
NOPEY YOU DON'T AND NOPEY I DON'T
how bout we let the game clock go to ZERO , then and only then WILL YOU OR I KNOW CHIT
Based on what the DTCC is, per my post, I don't see HOW it could be related.
Is it because it has a large value per share?
XOOM
I have always ATTEMPTED to get along since we agree on the IMPORTANT STUFF, that there is still lots to come back here.
Where we got OFF is when he starts the petty BS of name calling or saying folks are stupid, SINCE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH THE GREAT AZZZZZZZ.
Also when he said in no uncertain terms that ALICE held up payment here INTENTIONALLY, WELL GUESS WHAT her case was I think in 2019? ANd GUESS WHAT ya still aint seen chit yet........
Or when he shape shifts to another scenario when his NO LONGER FITS.
AZ quote
"" YOU CAN ONLY BELIEVE WHAT IS IN FILINGS and 8K's every thing else is chatter and noise, and POOR and despicable SLOPPY DD........."""
Yet he still, will not CAN NOT except the 8K nor the PR the company put out in DIRECT RESPONSE/relationship to MESSAGE BOARD CHATTER to the payout matrix, because IF IF IFIN HE does it is 180 degrees from the commons shall inherit the bulk of the estate.
But we always agreed AZ RON LG MYSELF that there is a lot of money to come back here and all will be just fine.
BUT SOME WILL BE BETTER OFF THAN OTHERS
And in my math classes over the years 75% beats 25% in a BIG WAY
Where is the distribution….i want to be wrong so where is the distribution…..like I said…it is a good opinion but no distribution….all the posts are good opinions but they do not bring a distribution…until then keep posting….remember cactus has changed his tune as coop is the tell again….
DO WE ACTUALLY KNOW IF IT IS OR ISN'T RELATED >>>>>>>>YET
Yes, you saw that as well. Kinda like a completely different person responded, LOL.
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Mr. Cooper Group Inc. (NASDAQ: COOP) provides quality servicing, origination and transaction-based services related principally to single-family residences throughout the United States with operations under its primary brands: Mr. Cooper® and Xome®. Mr. Cooper is one of the largest home loan servicers in the country focused on delivering a variety of servicing and lending products, services and technologies. Xome provides technology and data enhanced solutions to homebuyers, home sellers, real estate agents and mortgage companies.
Upon completion of the merger between WMIH Corp. and Nationstar Mortgage Holdings Inc. on July 31, 2018, WMIH became the parent company of the Nationstar Mortgage Holdings Inc. family including Mr. Cooper (Nationstar Mortgage LLC, d/b/a Mr. Cooper), Xome and Champion Mortgage (Nationstar Mortgage LLC d/b/a Champion).
As of October 10, 2018, Mr. Cooper Group Inc. is the new name of WMIH Corp. On July 31, 2018, WMIH, now Mr. Cooper Group, became the parent company of the Nationstar Mortgage Holdings Inc. family including Mr. Cooper (Nationstar Mortgage LLC, d/b/a Mr. Cooper) and Xome.
As early as late 2006, WaMu would begin to become a victim of what would eventually become the worst recession in US history since the Great Depression of 1929. WaMu's aggressive business strategy would begin to unfold throughout the end of 2006 and become increasingly disastrous through 2007. As housing rates were at all time highs before the recession began, WaMu would use its considerable leverage and assets to make large amounts of loans in both subprime mortgages and subprime credit cards. The banking division of WaMu at one point before the end of 2007 had nearly 336 stand-alone branch buildings where various types of home loans were processed and approved. WaMu would eventually over leverage themselves due to the high number of Adjustable Rate Mortgages (ARMs). As the US economy slowed down, the number of home loan defaults began to rise in quick succession. This coupled with the falling home prices throughout most of the US meant that even with foreclosures and the properties back in the hands of the company, they were unable to sell them back into the market, or were not able to derive enough revenue from the sale to cover the loan that was made on them. In the mean time, the credit card division was also seeing a surge in the number of late and non payments being made.
By September of 2008, WaMu's stock price had fallen to $2 from its previous highs of around $50 just two years earlier. Amid strong voices from the shareholders, then company CEO Kerry Killinger was dismissed by the company board. In the meantime, the company went looking for a buyer for part of its banking division. WaMu had been unsuccessful in finding an appropriate buy until its seizure by the FDIC. Overnight the companies banking division was bought by JP Morgan Chase in a secret deal brokered by the FDIC for 1.9 billion dollars. Washington Mutual Inc. has reorganized to Washington Mutual Holding Inc. WITH SHAREHOLDERS INTACT
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