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Back to calling racist names I see. Just found another board for it?
The idea of a god is sort of illogical on the face of it.
Sounds positively Orwellian.
Nothing like being free to take a pre-ordained path.
I'd rather they use the old fashion hand signals as I think the RI women have the best tattoo's on their arms - plus it's so funny watching them use their right hand to make a right turn thinking that's the correct signal.
Perhaps they could then pass the knowledge of directional signals on to Rhode Island drivers.
My scores represent my agenda - I took it the first time and the results weren't liberal enough for me, because I tried to take into account real intellectual views. So I took it again with the attitude of a "NEO-CON" - NO GRAY, only strongly agree or disagree, and BAM!, now I'm as liberal as I want to be. If more liberals would see the error of their ways and start shoving our agendas down the throats of people like the NEO-CONS do, we could probably be more convincing. The problem with the liberal agenda is that it wants everything for everybody! We want rich people to stay rich but poor people to get rich, all the while keeping a small fraction of poor people for us to help in perpetuity! The NEO-CON agenda is far more easily deciphered: RICH PEOPLE AND GOD - GOOD, POOR PEOPLE, GAYS, UNIONS and LIBERALS - BAD!!!!
If what you say is true, then God has no control over the human spirit and all of the "praying to God for things to work" is useless because he already knows what is going to happen, but will not choose the path. Unless you are suggesting that God already knows what is going to happen, but has the right to change his mind, thereby changing the future, thereby putting into jeopardy the fact that God knows everything in advance. If you can change the future by one action, you cannot see the future - That is called FREE WILL. If you can see everything from start to finish with no deviation - that is called DETERMINISM. You cannot have it both ways!
You left off the notion that some might have an "agenda" and wouldn't want any one to know the truth.
I wouldn't want my husband to be on IHub, and maybe John feels the same way about his wife, although he has had her participate in a few things like the Political Compass test. He also gave her score for the Rice test and it was outstanding. I remember being in awe of her score (rice count).
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=24059244
Here's the game......
http://www.freerice.com/index.php
I think we need to do some recruiting.
But she doesn't post on IHub
But she doesn't post on IHub, so she doesn't count. I hope bagwa-john doesn't see that. LOL
I've never seen such a high score.
Nope, Mrs. bawaga-john beat me with a -8.12.
Whew!!!
ROTFLMAO! You obviously aced the economic part of the test. hehehehehehehehe I've never seen such a high score.
Yeah, I guess I didn't mean to suggest that the test itself wasn't accurate but merely I've never been a good test taker.
Yeah, I guess I didn't mean to suggest that the test itself wasn't accurate but merely I've never been a good test taker.
Holy Cow!!!!!!!!!!I'll call you later on today. I'm laughing.
arizona, what I once did for kicks was to pick the strongly agree and the strongly disagree for every single question pretending that I was a liberal, and then I did the same thing for a conservative. What happened was that I got two -9s for liberal and two +9s for the conservative, if I remember correctly (it may have been a number other than a 9). That tells me that the test is accurate.
I have to admit though, that your spread is puzzling.
That's why I didn't want to post it. But now that the cat is out of the bag...my last score was -8/-3.95.
Yikes!
arizona, maybe that's why I consider you my friend. You're crazy. But it's probably also why I rarely talk to you on the boards.* LOL!
Well, for instance, the first time I took the test my score on the social libertarian/authoritarian side was was -7.0 (if I remember correctly} and this last time I took it, I got a -3.95.
Too big a spread for me to think it's accurate. Like I said...it's probably just me and my mood at the time.
I have to admit though, that your spread is puzzling. Mine has never veered from about a 2 point spread.
*Just joking, dear one.
Thanks, Sox. I have to add poorgraduatestudent's too, so I'll post an update later on today.
Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49
<VBG>..yes indeed..and even at that..I found I was answering toward the absoluteness instead of the topic..and had it been asked in another manner it would have elicited a different response..at least for me..and there is always the possibility they intended to ask in that manner..so I am good..:^))
Well, for instance, the first time I took the test my score on the social libertarian/authoritarian side was was -7.0 (if I remember correctly} and this last time I took it, I got a -3.95.
Too big a spread for me to think it's accurate. Like I said...it's probably just me and my mood at the time.
Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49
And there were some questions that because the absoluteness of the question..I answered geared toward that instead of if it was asked in a general manner..probably would have had a different answer..LOL If that makes any sense..
That's why they give you 4 choices.
LOLOL I only took the test once...knowing the results of the first..it would be somewhat of a temptation to alter some answers to get to where you think you should be and that is not the purpose of the test. While I agree..in a different mood..I might answer a few differently than I did the first time..And there were some questions that because the absoluteness of the question..I answered geared toward that instead of if it was asked in a general manner..probably would have had a different answer..LOL If that makes any sense..I found the test interesting..:^)
arizona, I have taken the test at least 8 times since I first came upon it years ago, and in every single one, my scores were different but they were reflective of my feelings at the time. If I were to take all 8 scores (16 really) and compare them, the scores would still be fairly close to one another. I can remember having a major change of heart in one particular question but I can't even remember what it was....what I do remember though, is that the score reflected my change. On another note, the questions are given different weight, so that the same Agree on two different questions could cause a different increment in the score. One might change your score by a full point, the other by half a point.
You say that the scores aren't an accurate representation of your overall philosophy, and I think you're being ridiculous. If you don't want to report your scores, then can you at least explain in a little more detail?
You would fall into my 3rd category of people; you didn't like your scores.
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I plead guilty. I've taken the test three times now and I've gotten different scores all three times. I think I answer based on how pissed off and disgusted I am at any particular time.
I just don't think it's an accurate representation of my overall philosophy.
it's not worth the battle. Bring up almost every other subject. LOL
See already we are in agreement on something..LOL..:^)
Like I already told you, religion is a very touchy subject and one that can bring out the worst in people. I'm an atheist and can't swallow certain beliefs like the one where you think that your god knows everything you do. To me, the idea is absurd. Since I know that no amount of logic used would make any difference, it's not worth the battle. Bring up almost any other subject. LOL
Hey woofer..glad to see you here..I usually don't discuss religion on the boards because it is such a personal thing...each has their beliefs and what usually happens is arguing til blue in the face and getting nowhere..except mad at each other..so I think I am going to find something to talk about that might bring about some discussion..:^)
Hey woofer..glad to see you here..I usually don't discuss religion on the boards because it is such a personal thing...each has their beliefs and what usually happens is arguing til blue in the face and getting nowhere..except mad at each other..so I think I am going to find something to talk about that might bring about some discussion..:^)
extelecom, you make an interesting observation and I've thought about it myself. It is curious that some people won't say how they scored. There is no right and wrong answer....although if someone doesn't turn out to be liberal, it's obvious that something is wrong with him. ROTFL!
I can think of three reasons why some people wouldn't want to report what they scored.
1) They didn't like the result.
2) They don't like me and don't want to be part of anything I would put on the board.
3) They have privacy issues.
Too bad some of the repetitive rude bashers that post so much can't find time to take the simple little test and provide you with results. I would imagine those that claim "independance" are anything but.
"“It’s what keeps me grounded. It’s what keeps my eyes set on the greatest of heights,”
The Mutt
told members of the Redemption World Outreach Center in Greenville, S.C., according to The Associated Press."
http://www.christianpost.com/Society/Politics/2007/10/obama-breaks-god-talk-tradition-09/index.html
The Mutt
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/11/chewing_over_ob.html
Doesn't your god have anything better to do with his time?
I was given some advice on my exercise routine this morning, because of it I will be revising how I do that after seeking more guidance.now to me..that is a decision I am making that is different from what I was going to do just hours ago...based on what I believe..that doesn't change a thing in Gods eyes..he already knew that was going to happen..that doesn't mean that He purposely did anything to control it..it just means He knew of it in advance...He just knows about it before it happens..seems pretty simple to me.
LOL it appears you still don't get it...we have the choice to do whatever we want...period...because God knows in advance doesn't mean it is preordained as if he is controlling it or restricting it..just known in advance...I am making a choice based on my beliefs and knowledge..to me it is something new everyday.I was given some advice on my exercise routine this morning, because of it I will be revising how I do that after seeking more guidance.now to me..that is a decision I am making that is different from what I was going to do just hours ago...based on what I believe..that doesn't change a thing in Gods eyes..he already knew that was going to happen..that doesn't mean that He purposely did anything to control it..it just means He knew of it in advance...He just knows about it before it happens..seems pretty simple to me and you laughing about it changes nothing...us arguing about it changes nothing..it is what it is..believe it or not..what we think..really changes nothing...but you live your life based on what you believe as I do..I am not going to try to change that for you..:^)
What you just stated is laughable. Your god knows what you are going to do (it's preordained) and you can post that you still have the ability to make a choice. So I ask again can you do something that god doesn't know you will decide to do. If you have taken any logic or reasoning course I'm sure you will eventually come up with the correct answer and not one that on the face of it is illogical no matter how many times you say it.
LOL...what you seem to be missing is just because God knows doesn't mean he controls..that decision was made at the time you make it..it wasn't preordained..it was just known to Him...seems pretty simple to me...I know sometimes because we think with a finite mind it is difficult to fully grasp infinite...
In my theology class.
So it must be preordained that suddenly you find me here, as well, questioning where you heard such things, right?
Then I'm surprised you missed the simple concept of - you cannot change what you are going to do. If god know you will watch a certain show you will watch that show. It's preordained - you think you made the decision but alas there was no other choice for you to make. Like you said- a simple concept.
You too??????????
Its really not that difficult of a concept to grasp...Man has his choices that he freely makes..God knows ahead of time what they will be...that doesn't change the choices he will make..we can what if all day long...really an excercize in futility..IMO..
what are directional signals?
Hey, that's not very nice. We northerners are gradually helping the Commonwealth - I predict that eventually VA drivers will not drive slow when driving in the inside lane, AND they will learn how to use the directional signals in their autos. But I'm patient - gun laws in VA still permit one to carry a concealed gun in their auto.
Updated Political Compass Scores and there are some real surprises.....and I do mean real surprises.
Palestinian officials claimed The Decider told them, "God told me to invade Afghanistan and Iraq".
Well if you moved to a state in which women had a full set of teeth you wouldn't be worried about what they do in VA. What does a man say to compliment a women when in VA? Nice tooth. LOL
"We continue to regulate gun ownership..." Not strongly enough in VA - at gun shows in VA you can buy a gun/guns from a private dealer with no regulations imposed, (no background check).
NYC's Mayor Mike recently sued 2 VA gun shop owners, proving they sold guns that were involved in NYC street crimes; NYC won concessions from VA shop owners, yet private dealers at VA gun shows remain unregulated.
That usually confounds the ones with any brains.
Let's see how our contestant does... :)
Or his father's, not that he was any less evil, just marginally brighter.
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