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JimLur
Whoever removes the post that disagreed with you and others
view on the arbitration qualify for communism and against free
speech. I can't produce it but I know what I read before it
mysteriously vanished that the court withheld the terms of the
arbitration award. Now why would you withhold that IDCC won and
LG and even more why would Merritt not state what you and olddog
say you clearly know that IDCC won only the part that LG can not
arbitrated and in order for IDCC to collect on 3G from LG they
now have to agree to a license or IDCC has to sue them instead of
stating on a conference call none the less that he was pleased that
LG 3G was completed last year and now behind us. That is about a
misleading of statement as I have ever heard. How can he face any
analyst and say well it looks like we have to sue LG. I still think
a deal was done and will be announced after the Huawei decision is
final.
JMO
Mickey
Mickey , Read the TOS from IHUB as you agreed to those terms before you could post.
None of the moderators on the IDCC thread can ban anyone or limit them to a certain amount of posts.
Only IHUB has the power to ban or limit posts so you had to break the rules that you agreed to.
JMO
Mickey , Nothing was withheld. The arbitration was only about did or did not LG have a paid up license for 3-G.
It was ruled LG license had expired.
The award was the ruling was in IDCC's favor.
How you can't comprehend or understand this is beyond me.
You were and still are wrong with your observations and thoughts on the LG arbitrations and yet you keep ranting on the same issue.
Stop and think if IDCC did something wrong some firm would have filed a class action suit.
JMO
olddog and JimLur
What is the difference in this board and the IDCC board? Let me
tell you on the IDCC board if you have a different opinion than
those in power remove your post get and you get banned from
posting. Now that is a great American way where having a different
opinion gets you banned now that's freedom and free speech for sure.
Here you can have freedom and different opinion and even criticize
me and others but you are entitled to be a free man and have a right
to your own thoughts and opinions. Now what does silencing those
who disagree with you sound like? Sure sounds like communism to me.
You do not want anything posted but your beliefs what a country.
Seems like anyone can see what type of board is being run and
freedom to have a different opinion is not allowed.
You are the poster childs for what is going on with protesters
not wanting politicians having a say so they protest against free
speech and say what they are doing is right. Try being a American
and what a American represents, as your post clearly say you would
be one of the protesters and that is your right to stop others.
JMO
Mickey
quick question?
Why did the courts withhold the terms of the arbitration? Was it
they didn't want people to know IDCC had won that LG had no right
to arbitration? What was withheld that all should have know
already? Unless there is something so sensitive that it is best
withheld what would you withhold? I still say some type of
agreement had been reached terms withheld.
JMO
Mickey
olddog
Only a damn fool would brag and be happy they won a no arbitration
and have no agreement now in place and not tell the shareholders
well we won the right to not arbitrate now we have to either license
or go to court which they always had a right to do. They technically
didn't win Jack if what you and others profess. Who now cares that
it don't go to arbitration but we are not anywhere ahead of what we
should have done years ago unless they have a agreement. If no
agreement they should have filed a suit in court already or you tell
me why no suit has been filed do you think if LG still doesn't
license they will voluntarily license?
JMO
Mickey
mickey : you should stop making bets, your track record regarding LG isn't so good. LOL
2/21 “I have one kidney and I will bet it that on December 29th 2015 a final and binding award for the use of 3G and any other things that needed to be licensed was determined and a amount was granted to IDCC. “
2/27 “I said I would bet my remaining kidney that it was the monetary award. “
2/29 “I am willing to make the same bet with you as I proposed to olddog, IDCC was awarded money based on the LG 3G rate already agreed on in 2006 or possibly a higher or lower rate”
3/1 “I will bet IDCC will in the next 2 weeks be releasing a 8K and the stock goes straight up”
mickey : you should stop making bets, your track record isn't so good. LOL
2/21 “I have one kidney and I will bet it that on December 29th 2015 a final and binding award for the use of 3G and any other things that needed to be licensed was determined and a amount was granted to IDCC. “
2/27 “I said I would bet my remaining kidney that it was the monetary award. “
2/29 “I am willing to make the same bet with you as I proposed to olddog, IDCC was awarded money based on the LG 3G rate already agreed on in 2006 or possibly a higher or lower rate”
3/1 “I will bet IDCC will in the next 2 weeks be releasing a 8K and the stock goes straight up”
JimLur
I may be dumber than a rock but any CEO worth his salt would inform
the shareholders we have the mandantory arbitration out of the way
the next step is either get a license agreement or go to court. In
my dumber than a rock opinion the information was at least
misleading. You haven't accomplished Jack and tell your shareholders
LG 3G not LG 3G arbitration is behind us. It is according to you and
old dog its a damn long way from behind us. What is wrong with
telling the owners what we now have to look forward too. Don't tell
me LG 3G is now behind us. I bet we hear about a license with LG in
April.
JMO
Mickey
Olddog!!!
Can you imagine the shareholder meeting and no LG 3G license.
Mr. Merritt why did you say the LG 3G was concluded and behind us,
when nothing but the right to arbitrate was concluded? You have
had over 5 years to negotiate a contract and here we are learning
nothing was concluded but you just don't have to arbitrated and you
have accomplished nothing yet on negotiating a deal and you haven't
even filed a law suit. How could you have been so happy that you
had just by passed arbitration, where are we better off? If we
had binding arbitration it would have been over a long time ago.
How long must we wait to get paid by a company that once licensed
3G but that license terminated? Why did you even say LG 3G was
now behind us when behind us means no more litigation?
I will bet we hear about a LG 3G license before April is over and
I will be shocked if the rate isn't what LG had agreed to earlier
or at least what Huawei rate is. If it isn't within these 2 guide
lines Merritt is a stone cold idiot and should be relieved as
CEO. I don't think that is the case, as I believe IDCC just wanted
to withhold the deal till after Huawei.
Oh by the way I think by the end of 2017 the stock will be over
$200.00 a share, and I wish they had leaps like they once had.
JMO
Mickey
When will our best in class license team be held accountable?
This is a almost 50 year old company and unless I am wrong we
currently have fewer licensed and paying than we have unlicensed
and not paying. I have to the best of my knowledge in all my years
of owning the stock can't recall anyone in the license team ever
being fired. There appears to be no accountability and a life time
job. I didn't know once you was hired to license at Interdigital
you was in the same status as a U.S. Supreme court judge. It is
high time to put pressure on our best in class license team and
if they don't get new license then get new people.
Let me add also unless IDCC can't purchase stock right now they
should be buying stock and maybe selling a few puts. The stock
based on earnings and up coming events appears to be dirt cheap.
JMO
Mickey
Once again my opinion!!!!
I keep thinking we will here a LG 3G license by the end of April,
I believe this license will be done once the Huawei arbitration is
finished. It scares me to think our CEO would be excited about
any thing that has happened with LG and have nothing tied to a
settlement already in place.
JMO
Mickey
bulldzr
To much freedom here to speak what you believe and if all oppose
you your view is still allowed to remain posted as your views.
Freedom is not just another word but is allowed and encouraged
here. Dictatorship is prohibited. Your mind is yours and your
opinions are allowed to stand. You don't have to be right to post.
JMO
Mickey
mickey: While you might not like it, apparently in the legal community, as described in all the previous and current references I have supplied, the term used when the final award has been issued is that the arbitration has been "concluded".
That is what Merritt was referring to, so give it up and let us wait and see what happens with LG.
Don't bother responding.
Slightly off topic, but this board would be a good place for IDCCer's to blow off a little steam....
olddog
Merritt should have stated the arbitration has been completed.
IDCC won the right to either sue or negotiate a new contract. You
don't say it is completed and behind us. Sorry but that is how
I feel and saying anything different is misleading. Why would
you use the words concluded and behind us when it is not concluded
and it damn sure isn't behind us if we got no money. If you are
so stupid to not know it requires more either legal work or
negotiating to get a license then your ass should be fired.
You are to be completely honest with the shareholders.
JMO
Mickey
mickey: Nobody is lying. As usual you are misinterpreting what was stated.
Merrit did not state “ LG 3G was concluded and now behind us”; what he did state was “Last year we successfully concluded the 3G arbitration, so I think we got that out of the way”
As noted he was specifically talking about the 3G arbitration being concluded.
As I previously explained in detail, an arbitration is concluded when the final award is issued, so his statement was correct, as he was not talking about anything else that might have happened after the award was issued. Apparently that explanation was in too much detail for you to understand.
The following are some of the results of a Google search for “final award concludes the arbitration”. Note that the summaries all state that the final award concludes the arbitration.
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Arbitration Advocacy in Changing Times
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=9041133666
A. J. van den Berg - 2011 - Law
all arbitral awards can be regarded as 'final', in the sense that they finally ... only a 'final award' concludes the arbitration and renders the tribunal functus officio.
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Practitioner's Handbook on International Arbitration and ...
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1933833750
Richard Chernick, Daniel M. Kolkey, Barbara Reeves Neal - 2012 - Law
The delivery of such an award concludes the mandate of the arbitral panel, and ... It follows that an arbitral panel should not issue a final award until it is sure that ...
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Arbitration in Asia - 2nd Edition: - Page 26 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1933833203
Michael J. Moser - 2008 - Law
The arbitration commission, however, considers such transcripts and ... The arbitral tribunal's rendering of the final award concludes the arbitration process.
What Will the Arbitrator's Final Award Look Like?: Common ...
https://www.smithcurrie.com/commonsensecontractlaw,arbitration-clause...
May 9, 2014 - Generally, an arbitration proceeding concludes with the publication and transmittal of the arbitrator's final award. The arbitrator's final award ...
Give it a break, as it is probably affecting your blood pressure.
Here is what could happen to the short players!!!!!!
You may wake up to a press release that says ZTE has settled, or
LG 3G has settled, Huawei has settled. Nokia/Microsoft has settled.
Just to name a few that could ruin your short position, and God
help you if more than one should come in a weeks time.
I still think IDCC is a screaming buy and we can see over a $100.00
a share this year. You damn well sure better be well hedged or
prepared to lose a lot of money. If they decide to squeeze you, then
you will experience more pain than you dreamed of.
JMO
Mickey
Who is lying and who should be fired????
Is Bill Merritt lying when he flat out told us LG 3G was concluded
and now behind us? It is impossible to be concluded if more legal
action is needed. Now Peter in investor relations said IDCC got no
money from arbitration or the courts, which means more negotiations
or legal action both which require more work and the LG 3 G can in
no way be concluded and behind us.
If Merritt is lying to us he should be fired, and if Peter is
lying about the money and more work required then he should be
fired. One thing is for sure someone is lying.
JMO
Mickey
Over the past 5 years how much have the officers and board of
directors received versus what the shareholders got paid via dividends?
Why do I feel like they have been more than amply rewarded and
the shareholders got scraps. I may be wrong but our best in class
license team stinks, and Merritt professes to be happy with them
and even happier that the LG arbitration went the IDCC way but IDCC
got no money not even compensated for legal fees they should have
never been out. To top it all off make public comments how LG 3G
was concluded and behind them and no money. If this is leadership
I am a monkeys uncle.
JMO
Mickey
Totally confusing!!
IDCC was forced to go to arbitration with LG when there was no
arbitration available. Now here is the confusing part to me, is how
can the court deny IDCC their legal expenses when arbitration was
not supposedly allowed to resolve the dispute? This within itself
makes zero sense. It was LG who made IDCC spend money that should
have never been spent.
JMO
Mickey
Bill Merritt should be fired.
How can any CEO 5 years after LG infringed and didn't pay and
have a arbitration and win, and tell the shareholders he is happy
that LG 3G is concluded and now behind us and not get any money
be happy? No explanation on where or when we can expect any money
and say it is concluded and behind us should be removed, He is
either crazy or totally dishonest with the shareholders. If more
litigation is required then it is not concluded. You are either
stupid or lying. Either one says you should be fired.
JMO
Mickey
mickey; In view of your comment that "my blood pressure was so high I was hospitalized for the weekend." i recommend that you give it a rest and stop posting about the LG case. I think by now everyone knows what your opinions are, so no need for you to keep repeating. I am sure that if you stop posting and responding to replies, everyone else would also stop. Why don't we just wait and see what develops.
zombywolf
I could care less what people say about me. I don't erase their
post, nor if they disagree do I get upset. Hell we are grown men
and women and can post things others don't like so what? Who
thinks that what any of us say means the stock is going up or down?
We voice our opinions and try to justify them, but no one says no
more post unless you are right.
I have lots of physical and maybe mental problems of late. my
blood pressure was so high I was hospitalized for the weekend.
Where IDCC goes is important but not as my trying to stick around
and be with my beautiful and wonderful wife. I have been fortunate
in many ways and hope to spend my last years being happy. I used
to take some of this serious but now I just say what the heck
they need something to do and make them feel good.
JMO
Mickey
Come on, Mick
I'm one of the guys that like you, and it was getting old. You said your
peace numerous times on the same subject. I even complained to the mods to stop it and got deleted. Its ok to to be a little crazy about the stock, but it went too far. Get a grip and I'm sure things will lighten up over there, especially when you get vindicated on the SP.
JimLur
I don't need you tell me anything. You hate me and that's all
there is to it. You must think you are impressing people by making
the kind of statements you do. If it makes you feel good post
some more of them. I don't care what you say and it says to me
you have very little to do with your life.
I wish you well and I am always here for you to say whatever
you want about me.
JMO
Mixkey
Mickey, You said, " I never seen in any of the rules one had to be right on their opinion or the moderators would ban them. Nothing like being a control freak and shutting dissenters out.
You are really dumb as a rock as moderators such as you and the moderators on the IDCC thread can't Ban anyone. The only moderator other than the IHUB police that can ban anyone is a moderator that has a premium thread which all members must be paying members.
You need to read the IHUB rules as I'm sure you never did and if you did I'm sure you didn't understand them.
JMO
olddog
You do see your post and others that disagree or don't like me
are still here. That is the difference between people who don't
want other people to voice their opinions. I never seen in any of
the rules one had to be right on their opinion or the moderators
would ban them. Nothing like being a control freak and shutting
dissenters out.
I happen to have far more things to worry about. If they can live
with it I sure can.
JMO
Mickey
mickey: One post a day on the other board should be enough, as all you were doing was repeating the say thing, but with slight variations.
As far as being vindicated, I don't know what you stated that you think you were correct. Your biggest idea as stated in many posts was that the arbitration award included a monetary award for IDCC. For example this classic:
"I said I would bet my remaining kidney that it was the monetary award. "
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=120824294&txt2find=monetary
Most posters believe that eventually IDCC and LG will likely negotiate a settlement, but if , and when it happens, that that doesn't mean you were correct in all the erroneous statements that you repeatedly made about what was happening.
It saddens me to think that I was reduced to 1 post a day on the
other board.
It's a shame a man goes to the hospital and comes out and finds he
can not post but 1 post. I guess maybe freedom is not what I thought
it was here, and if you disagree or have a different view you will
get banned.
I let people say what they want here and that includes running me
down, but I try to allow all to say what they want and have a
different opinion than me.
I stand by my beliefs and intend on doin that till proven wrong.
Hopefully I will be vindicated and if not I will apologize for
being wrong. I did think these boards were ran by adults and all
of us had a right to have a opinion. I guess I was on the wrong
board.
JMO
Mickey
If anyone should read this post I would like to know the bond
and how it is and when it is to be posted by Huawei?
I for some reason have been barred from posting on the other
board. Now I wonder who would do that?
JMO
Mickey
JimLur
There is a big difference in knowing and having a opinion. I have
clearly said in my opinion. I can say my opinion and if you don't
like who cares? This is still a free country and everyone doesn't
have to agree with you.
JMO
Mickey
Your the ones that should call Merritt as you think you know a lot.
Dear JimLur
When I need sympathy from you I will let you know. otherwise quit
trying to be so smart and having fun running others down. I believe
before its all over I will be vindicated. I still am betting once
Huawei is resolved so will LG. Since you have great connections
why don't you call Merritt and see if he will tell you what you nor
I know. You have a opinion just like I do other than that you
don't know a thing.
JMO
Mickey
Mickey , I feel sorry for you as you have no comprehension skills at all for understanding or the wordings in most documents.
You posted to many times about concluded and no one took your side that IDCC got a money award and it took another poster to urge Patrick from IR to call LAW360 and tell them there was no money award.
You got to admit you were dumb as a rock on that issue and provided a piss poor apology to all on that issue.
Now your leaning on a new word in documents which is withheld which you can't provide or find.
All this leads you to insult others and invite them to come down and fight you in Tallahassee.
You need to respect others that have a better knowledge of what tool to use like Loop suggested.
The opinions you afford you have been totally wrong and you have the right to afford those opinions but why is it you can't man up and say I was wrong?
JMO
JimLur
I told you I can not go back and read my own post. I no longer
pay to have my post removed and censorship.
I tell you what tell everyone that I made the withheld part up.
I really could care less. I just believe what I believe and I always
lie and make things up. I don't care who believes me and who don't.
If I was you I would be buying stock now instead of spending night
and day trying to show me up, what would that get you? I have voiced
my opinion and hoped it helped some. It is still their decision
to buy or sell I render nothing but my opinion.
JMO
Mickey
I can't find any post by you that is a court document or a news release that contains the word withheld.
Do what I said to review your posts and if you find it post it and I will explain to you how wrong you are again.
mickey, Did you go through your posts the way I told you to?
Your the one saying something was withheld and have no idea how to prove it.
Is this the post?
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=120384827&txt2find=withheld
JimLur
Since you are so sure I am stupid and don't know what I read
then how about you be specific and post what the award was and
said. I told you to go back to February 5th. I thought you would
be smart enough to read my post coming forward from that date till
you seen where I posted it. How many times have I asked for those
who know what the award was to post it and no one has done it so
far, isn't that strange if the award wasn't withheld that no one
knows what it was?
JMO
Mickey
You made 1 post on 02/05 and this is it.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=120335917
Go to one of your posts and click on your blue name and that will bring up your profile. Where it shows how many post you made click on that and all your posts will come up.
Your making some strong claims on the word withheld and don't know who used the word ?
JimLur
I am sorry I can no longer read my own post as I quit paying to
have censorship of my post. I didn't make it up as I am not that
smart. If you go back to February 5th at sometime or another
I posted it. I even called the Lucy Yen law firm to see if I could
get any information and never got a call back. If it wasn't withheld
what was the award? Funny not a single person knows what it was and
yet all jump me for voicing my opinion. If LG and IDCC didn't enter
into a agreement based on the Huawei rate my name isn't Mickey.
How can a CEO be excited about having a right to sue LG in a court
rather than arbitration, and why would that be withheld? Normally
when information is not made privy it is to keep this information
from getting into the hands of someone that might could benefit
from it, and we the shareholders could only benefit if we knew
there was a monetary amount and we bought stock. Someone knows
something as the stock is steady going up. I look for big volume
over the next 3 trading days.
JMO
Mickey
Mickey, Here's the courts ruling and the word withheld is not in this document. See if you can point out where it is as I have vision problems and may have missed it. I also used the edit function which also didn't find it.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=120640822
JimLur
I think you will have to click on my name and read previous posts.
Why the courts posting is no longer available is a mystery to me.
Right after I posted it and went back to find it poof it was gone.
JMO
Mickey
Post a link to it as I can't find it.
JimLuur
Did you not read the court transcript that stated the award
was withheld? If you haven't read it go read it.
JMO
Mickey
Mickey, What document used the word withheld. If you post it I will tell you what it means.
Maybe olddog recalls what your talking about.
olddog
Are you so stupid you don't understand the question? Tell me
what was withheld that we should not have privy to. You haven't and'
won't tell us what was withheld will you?
JMO
Mickey
mickey: Did you ever think that no one has answered your questions because after many attempts to try and explain things to you they have given up because they don't know what the hell you are talking about?
JimLur
yep that's me alright, I think the company is lying to us about
what happened at the arbitration and a agreement had been reached
based on the Huawei decision. I will go right back to the withheld
part. Can you name what might have been withheld that was needed
to be withheld
You nor olddog or any of you can tell us what the courts would not
disclose. Was it IDCC won a arbitration and they could now sue?
Was it the LG 3G was not covered? Tell us what was so important
that they didn't want anyone to know. If it didn't involve money
what the hell was it. I am reheating the crow and bet you can't name
a thing that should have been withheld. You spend to damn much time
trying to cut me down.
JMO
Mickey
Mickey , You get hung up on a single word such as concluded. Some how you thought concluded meant IDCC got some money when in fact all it meant was the arbitration ended. You were provided info by a lot of investors information proving you were wrong with your conclusion of what concluded meant.
I advised you to call IR which you did and Patrick was at the show in Europe.
You didn't follow through and call him again to clarify anything and continued to mislead investors that conclude meant money was awarded.
It was nice another investor called IR and cleared up the matter and also nice Patrick of IR called Law 360 to inform them their was no cash award which was probably due to a post by Loop who suggested IR should correct law 360.
Now your hung up on a new word which is withheld.
What news release by IDCC used that word that you don't understand or was it law 360?
JMO
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