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I am wondering if I should buy more shares??
Tomcat
How do you get to profitability without passing through breakeven?
I think you nailed it in your next post. Receiving fees imo, is what LQMT will get. Fees always seem to be of inconsequence. The exposure can open up more doors which may lead to a contract of consequence. Earnings of $2 or $3 million a year won’t do it. Commercializing the product will where consumers in large numbers can create the demand for high volume parts and revenues. From a earnings point of view it can be done while waiting for the whales to take the bait and then reeled in for the mega high volume contract.
Are all of the investors looking to break even? I don’t think so. What a low bar TC set. Breaking even doesn’t increase shareholder value. It resets the clock. Long term shareholders are not imo, looking to break even. Tempting yes! But not what many are looking for.
All have watched this game before. Little transparency, zero follow ups a wake up call and back to sleep.
Maybe asking for more than two or three reoccurring contracts a year is too much. But LQMT is now about to go into its 27th month without announcing a new contract small or large of any kind.
Maybe after two plus decades some shareholders think 3 customers are ok. I don’t. Imo, LQMT should have had many more reoccurring customers.
Maybe they have learned from those past mistakes. I won’t know until I see the contract pushing LQMT beyond breaking even.
My goodness! I can’t believe people are ecstatic over breaking even. I guess after being in the red for so long it sounds like success. It’s a big step in the right direction. Not success.
It would be nice if LQMT can get government contracts. But perhaps the affiliation with their partner abroad is a roadblock. I believe you are correct with the indirect point of view. And many times I pointed out in so many words that TC, imo, has been full of crap, when he gave the impression LQMT did not need domestic manufacturing. Especially when dealing with companies in the USA and global relations constantly being at odds with one another.
Good luck to you.
So who are the key players at Amorphology? The website lists 5 but we shall see…
Douglas Hoffman…listed as Founder/Scientific Consultant but also seems to be employed by NASA JPL and is a Visiting Associate & Lecturer in Material Science @ Caltech. Busy guy!
Jim Demetriades….Founder and CEO of SEVERAL tech start-ups in Aerospace arena. He has a Venture Capital company called Karios VC —-also dividing his time.
Glenn Garrett ….Chief Technical Officer is a full time employee
Peter Czer….listed in the website as Chief Operating Officer who was previously associated with Karios VC. He is also listed elsewhere as “Strategic and Business Planning” so this is a big question mark This is further muddied by a different reference listing Nicholas Hutchinson (formerly of Eutectrix and Materion) also as the Chief Operating Officer. I think Peter was replaced by Nicholas as COO.
Moritz Stolpe is listed as a senior consultant….his background is heavy in additive manufacturing (3D printing) with lots of references to Zirconium based BMG’s in particular. Also doesn’t appear to be full time.
Total employment looks like 11 but I doubt that they are all full time.
I think you are on the mark. Amorphology however, can use the IP of LQMT to attract US government/military business, being well outside of any Chinese based maze. That may be our path to receive at least indirectly, US government business. Which used to be high on the potential paying customer list.
Feinstein is dead, lol.
My point is that govt or military contracts with Amorphology are not burdened by any conflict of foreign interest.
Why, could it be because Diane Feinstein is the legislative support and they want to keep the lid on things while they fill their mugs with liquid metal?
Boeing sure needs some help. Liquid Metal to the rescue? Boeing AeroSpace? Time for shoddy parts replacement.
Notice Glassimetal is also in Pasadena just like Amorphology.....where Caltech is....
It’s not NASA. The bigger picture is the commercialization of Liquidmetal. Read the article fom the link posted.
One of the research founders of Amorphology briefly was employed by LQMT, when I first invested over 2 decades ago. LQMT back then had people with brains and vision. Not all though had vision and many investors sued LQMT. The brains of LQMT began to leave, the patents decreased and so did the revenues from actual sales. From that point in time bankruptcy was avoided by the Apple debacle and the Eontec debacle to buy time and grow partnerships with the opportunity to grow sales from these partnerships. So far only existence. This year new potential and a few eggs waiting to hatch .
Is anyone looking at some Amorphology people, what they are about, and what they bring to the table?
Douglas Hofmann, PhD
https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglas-hofmann-8977988/
Glenn R. Garrett, PhD
https://www.linkedin.com/in/glenn-r-garrett/
Garrett has 38 patent applications, the latest being:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20240011139A1/en
Fabricating Layers of Metallic Glass-Based Materials is more
than just fabricating gears.
Has anyone considered the possibility that Amorphology is the initiator of this combination/agreement….perhaps Amorphology, as it get closer to a commercial product, had concerns about patent litigation and approached LiquidMetal just when LQMT was looking for a manufacturing partner.
Unfortunately, I think Amorphology is too similar to LiquidMetal in its make-up. being research based and rooted in academia is not a formula to move in a direction that needs sales/marketing. Hope I’m wrong.
Amorphology is not part of a Chinese maze, and is not controlled out of Hong Kong. There is the path to NASA?
Yep, been there done that, Rinse Wash and Repeat,until then.....Sales,Revenues and Profits move Companies forward.
If amorpology inc. is successful it may open the doors for LQMT to comercialize the gears or receive fees in an area of high volume demand. None of it is CE related.
Commercialization of LQMT would be the way to go and spread the Liquid Metal brand like weeds or a brush fire and spread quickly.
All depends on how smart and how aggressive LQMT will become. Until then it’s just another slumber party. Lots of laughter and then back to sleep.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Looks like some newbies were attracted to LQMT today. Not enough to get LQMT out of anemic trading volumes, but getting closer to it.
Would be nice if more insiders purchased shares. So far silence.zzz’s
That would make it a very bullish signal.
It’s not new news….
https://www.nasa.gov/technology/metallic-glass-gears-up-for-cobots-coatings-and-more/
It’s another grant.
LQMT received upfront $25,000.00 dollars under the original agreement. A fee just for the agreement. Nothing to do with any other fees or parts. A one time payment for access to LQMT IP.
What they expect to receive under the amendment was redacted!!
Why?
Anyone?
No eggs hatched yet. But it bodes well for more exposure and perhaps more doors will open for the empty pockets sales reps to fill everyone’s pockets in LQMT.
How much did LQMT get with the contract in the past 5yrs with the agreement with Amorphology? Since it began in 2019. Zilch.
Nice find by Gamesc over on REDDIIT:
https://www.highergov.com/awardee/amorphology-inc-12603332/
Amorphology's contract just got extended with NASA on 3 13 24 (scroll down).......can you say gears? Can you say more revenue?
Looking good TC!
Interesting ….Investorshub lists a LQMT breakout to the downside two days ago and a breakout to the upside one day ago (today).
Tomcat, bought my first shares around the same time, doubled and tripled down too many times to remember after that. Have always believed in the material, just needed the application to present itself. Can’t believe that management did nothing to compete in several markets with superior products. Hopefully our time is here and now. Steaks and good whiskey are on me if this hits like it should.
The gears are critical to the operation of robotic joints and there are a whole lot more of them than space launches.
Because NASA has so many launches? Why not Space X which has them like once a week?
Looks Like Amorphology and LQMT might be producing gears for NASA. Are we about to blast off?
All,
I bot my 1st LQMT shares back on 12/01/06 & have added many more along the way & over the years.
It is TIME this did something!
I am Sick & Tired of Speculative bear sellers!!
Just Sayin'
Tomcat
Eutecticx is Old game, but sometimes, (Old game) it becomes New game in Town. What else can I say?....
Research & all,
Investor indifference to developing good news is why LQMT going forward from today might very well be an opportunity of a lifetime!
IMHO - Tomcat
The amendment talks about an Engel machine. I thought that company in AZ had LQMT’s machine. Eutechnix. Are they still in the picture or did they ship machine to amorphology? Or is there more than one machine?
Any reason in lieu of the CC, 10K and 8K, why the Ask can’t be raised to a dime? 🤔.
Or 0.15 cents?
Manipulation? Fundamentals? Historical experience? Disbelief? Integrity issues, ? no CE included? Why?
15 years ago if LQMT announced these things the hype mills the rumor mills and probably the MM’s would be pumping. Today…look around, crickets. 💤.
That’s just the way it is. I sure do support the success of LQMT.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck
Amendment to an agreement from 2019, wow, that will do it. To the moon! What has the agreement done for the last 5 yrs? NADA!
"When in DOUBT, jump and SHOUT!!"
Tomcat
Research,
I was being funny!
I am very pleased to see today's contract news, including royalty language!
Tomcat
It’s not bad news. It’s just adding more capacity to manufacture at an unspecified price or contracts to fulfill that capacity to earn $$$, should it ever get to that point in time. Like the yihao capacity. I s the new capacity going to sit idle like the one in China pumping out low volume orders?
Either that or they sold on the good news of historical results from a new partnership.
In reality nothing bad happened. The volumes are too low.
If you need a similar explanation read this recent post…
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174073145
I don’t want to negatively comment on a new filed document. Nor do I want to count the chickens before the eggs hatch. Everyone I believe has already been down that road with LQMT.
Unfortunately LQMT has proven everyone wrong except for those who already have been burned too many times before. I do not blame them for their disbelief, for LQMT has proven those investors who doubt whatever LQMT does to be correct 100% of the time. Trading under 0.30 cents a share, anemic trading volumes, anemic liquidity and very little if any new long term interest. Backed up by announcement after announcement year after year. What’s the saying? All hat no beef.
Could this be the year? As I always say every week; all will be glad if they do make it this year.
Definitely would be nice to see the sp go up to the numbers where LL and hype took us 7 years ago. Now that would be a nice start.
Not asking too much. If anyone thinks so. I don’t know why they invested in the first place.
Good luck to all in LQMT
Wish TC luck.
When there is never a break down of where money is received specifically in detail be it a partnership or contract. Only LQMT can answer your question.
But I will tell you what I do know, what everyone knows whether they are realistic or not. None of the partnerships or contracts recently have lead to earning enough money to increase the shareholder’s value, unless you consider deals to avoid bankruptcy. Other than that the $$$ earned have decreased shareholder value long term.
Every year investors expect and anticipate differently. I have enough shares in my long term and short term positions to handle success or another wash rinse and repeat cycle.
As you probably know I’m about keeping it real. Not into bashing or pumping or focusing on opinions of putting down posters by other posters.
Yesterday's selloff???
Signing a production royalty contract is bad news, as money will be spent to facilitate production of metal parts.
GEEZE!!!
Tomcat
20% move on 550k shares. (Only $35k)……proof of life!
Let’s give the negativity a break for a while and see what happens this year.
I agree.
okpj
8k just released with news of US manufacturing partner! TC mentioned this in the CC and only a few days later it’s formalized!!!
This will satisfy US companies that require US manufacturing.
He made other comments about contracts coming up and I expect to see those materialize as well this year to get us to break even and beyond.
These are positive steps for the company and good news for investors!
Let’s give the negativity a break for a while and see what happens this year.
How do? How many of our license agreements since 2016 have actually made us any money??
Promising in exposure if nothing else. $$$ is never shared with shareholders until after the fact and then not broken Down by customers ! Why not?
It’s obvious LQMT is always in the red due to lack of meaningful contracts. Any meaningful contracts ended with the apple debacle and domestic manufacturing ended with the current LL debacle.
Promising is never at all meant to be a strategy for investing. Just another word for a rosy opinion on another partnership. There can be no substitute strategy for investing other than a significant contract.
Promising falls in the same category as expecting and hoping. None of which are good ideas for investing here or anywhere else. Not with the history shareholders have gone through here regardless of how hard people might be claiming to be working.
Pictures of parts no sales! Partnerships no follow up! Contracts then no follow ups. One cc call then silence until another filed document.
Integrity imo, has been missing for a very very long time.
the latest PR stated this was coming soon and that it is a small manufacturing concern to handle some domestic demand and for prototyping.
Could well be other new accounts are on slate. I'll take it. It's something better than yesterday. Now what about tomorrow? At least we are moving in the right direction.
It does look promising, but how promising. We are apparently contributing IP and manufacturing equipment for a royalty....once again.....to a company that sells specialized gearing so that makes perfect sense for BMG. But it is apparently a very small company, a quick pass does not reveal their financials ($sales). Maybe I am just not up on that BMG company. Any numbers attached to this deal? I see the licensing does not include Far East exclusive territories (China).
Not sure what your post is meant to suggest but wasn't that about 70 years ago when things were far less complicated than they have become in the past few decades.... There was probably .00001 percent of the amount of regulations, laws, rules, 'do's and don'ts' etc at that point in time... Keeping things in perspective will help keep you happy.
The 8K was filed on 3/15….I don’t understand the sell-off on Monday/Tuesday. I would have expected a positive reaction. Is it that the positive was overwhelmed by the price drop in Movano? Many moving parts.
Amorphology is connected to Nicholas Hutchinson with roots to Materion—-> Eutectrix —-> Amorphology. Has PhD Materials Science from Ohio State. It appears we are moving our machines to Pasadena to support the venture.
Awesome, maybe TC will buy more shares. That will give us an idea of the impact of this licensing agreement.
QUOTE: The bigger the innovation the longer the first bite of the Apple takes and the longer the adoption takes and the longer EVERYTHING takes ..... So check your history on how long the adoption of other very disruptive materials took and this is probably far ahead of the curve on progress...
The transistor was very innovative and disruptive-ended the use of vacuum tubes- and it was invented in 1947. “Texas Instruments of Dallas, Texas first started commercial production of junction transistors for portable radios in 1954.” https://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/transist.htm
Perhaps LQMT isn’t far ahead of the curve on progress.
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