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So I bought some at $0.36 ( and $.0.20 and $0.10 and $0.07) and I don’t harbor all that bitterness….I’m optimistic about our future.
Option Reality….it would be great to have options on 4 million shares at a nickel but your price target can’t be as low as $0.20. 4 million shares at $0.20 is $800k but it costs the exerciser $200k to acquire them. That leaves $600k that one could call gross profit but the IRS (and California) wants its cut NOW so assuming 40% of $600k is $240k leaving $360k. It’s not “chicken feed” but not necessarily life changing. TC needs a minimum of $0.50 or better yet $1.00 before exercising.
The $1.00 minimum also fits with his other options package
Some lost a serious amount of money on this stock back when it was going for 0.36 cents a share. That was right before TC sold his shares.
Now out of anger and bitterness incessant and daily bashing of the stock and company take place. They call it reality, I call it losing your arse and letting bitterness rot your soul.
Time to let the bitterness go and move on with one’s life.
That’s because the other options either expire or in recent years if you follow a few of the 10k’s hey get extended. It’s another reason why I use the metaphor of the early 20th century game Kick the Can in some of my posts.
It’s not that they don’t have the opportunity to succeed. It’s just that the light at the end of the tunnel starts to flicker every year and during those dark moments it’s up to everyone’s imagination to see the light. That is where reality always gets interpreted as negativity and speculation becomes the basis for investing.
If you have shares no matter what you believe it does not really matter what anyone else does.
Heck at least I try to put a realistic value on my opinions. And we all know what there worth. :)
That is a fair post Research but like you also pointed out there has basically only been that one instance like that in 7 years (where this type of activity did not reflect very well on those at the top of the LQMT food chain) ...... and I didn't like it either but overall this type of stuff has been pretty rare... (as far as I am aware).
Repeating the MOVANO video…..Movano has a year end conference call on 4/4/2024 at 5 pm eastern. Perhaps info on sales in Q4 (they only have one product) and forecast for 2024.
MOVE stock is up $0.12 to $0.58 in the aftermarket
Possible future buyout…
As you well know: it's all the same guy. He's way beyond bi-polar! LOL.
Him, the Electrician, and the Poppy deck guy!!
VBG - tomcat
Go back and listen to the last conference call….that might explain, the ceo buying and the form 4’s
If you can’t see it, then it’s best you run off.
Absolutely correct. Stock options have been around for a long long long time. Longer than I want to remember.
So let’s just go back about 7 years. When there took place another head fake run up from 2016 to 2017, which was not based on part sales contracts but another debacle of selling it’s IP and shares to a citizen abroad to take control, shut down any attempt at domestic manufacturing and imo, force LQMT to buy all parts manufactured by him excluding any part that must be made in the USA due to prohibitive restrictions.
And what happened, (not that I blame him at all) TC sold his options for a nice piece of pocket change in 2017, when everyone believed something big was imminently about to happen and many more familiar with him than I got pissed off. Like why would an offer or executive of the company sell all of the options if the share price was going to bounce back up?
What happened next? From 2017 on, the share price has consistently gone down the drain into an abyss, where some shareholders think it’s fantastic that it no longer for now trades at all time lows. Big f…ing deal, the share price bounces back 100% or so, still trading under a dime, with hot air and still no contracts and in the land of Oz you would think we are closing at a dollar a share by the end of the year!
I said it before a few times I’ll say it again; options mean zilch to many! Contracts mean everything all!
You are absolutely correct! Nothing changes.
And one more thing, so does ten cents a share!
Sustain 0.30, 0.40, and 0.50 and maybe I’ll be a believer again. But this nickel dime up and down BS and once in awhile minuscule fee collecting contracts is not what serious dice rollers or serious investors are looking for with their long term investment.
Nothing changes until it does.
Working capital to fuel growth….a necessary part of the bigger picture.
No worries Booboo...you're included in the Perpetual Naysayers camp. Forgive me for not mentioning you by name.
New Financing and partnership for MOVE! I think this is very good news for us, indirectly! IMHO
Tomcat
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/movano-health-secures-strategic-investment-210000671.html
I feel left out @Boilingman. ☹️
I have seen nothing but bad news for LQMT the past two weeks, if not the same ol', same ol' news.
I have no idea why all the optimism all of a sudden, it's not like you guys are brand new here.
Similar to you then....a broken record of negativity.
Thanks for the clarification NB...I'm "lock-n-loaded" myself......750,100 shares.....
LQMT has always been a share selling operation for execs. Nothing changes.
The only way TC is going to be able to unload any of those millions of shares for a profit, is if there is something in the works that will create exponential growth and buying of Lqmt. Otherwise, all those shares are meaningless!
Too me these Form 4’s are a bullish sign for Lqmt!!
That last form 4 disclosed April 1, 2024 for TC grants him now a total of 11,740,000 shares in stock options outside of his purchased shares.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1305945/000089706924000805/xslF345X05/form4.xml
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
I thought that might be confusing. Unload like unload the barrels and go all out. Spend every spare penny on LQMT. Back up the truck, To infinity and beyond.
The conflict in your case depends on how much you originally paid for those eggs and not with the current price rise.
It’s like inflation. The eggs are still basically worthless right now and have not gone up on more demand based on actual revenues or higher costs to produce those eggs. Rather the cost of LQMT eggs as reflected in the share price have gone up due to increased speculation and potential causing a little more interest in the stock.
But probably not enough for you to unload.
Only those with short term positions who believe in LQMT popping from time to time can sell for green. But there is a probability that this gain can go a few pennies higher if newbies keep piling on. If not LQMT heads south again to a nickel or lower presenting another opportunity for you to earn some green, while you are waiting for that goose to lay that Golden Egg. Or maybe two Golden Egg’s.
What do you mean with your "unload" comment...that you'll be buying more or you're planning to dump your shares?
I’m so conflicted when the price rises. On the one hand most of my eggs are in this basket so I’m ecstatic. On the other hand it’s up 50% from its price around 5 cents and I didn’t buy any. I have a significant amount of dry powder. When the golden announcement finally comes I’m ready to absolutely unload on this stock.
Getting there.
April 1 starts on January 1 and continues.
Yes this is definitely our day, the April fools!
Same to you, your welcome.
Happy Easter to you and your family. Thanks again for all your feedback.
It's like listening to a broken record with that ignorant scammer.
It should not be too long before LQMT announces a licensing fee for parts being manufactured by the company paying the fee and not manufactured by LQMT’s partnership manufacturer abroad. This should increase LQMT’s revenues and raise the share price. For anyone speculating on a short term pop any dip in the SP from here may be an opportunity for a quick gain of 100%.
Depending on the licensing fees and any reoccurring orders or new ones could even create the SP to trade between 0.10 & 0.20.
Anyone not in LQMT and are willing to speculate on what I just posted should consider doing their own DD. Any long term shareholders who might want to add should also consider doing the same.
There are never ever any guarantees. There are odds of possibilities and probabilities. My research is leaning towards probability than possibility right now.
Good luck to all in LQMT
Wish TC luck.
The more shares management has…the more motivation to excel.
Another week passes and the ignorant and/or scammers are still ranting and pretending to be educated and the only ones to listen to.
Another week passes and LQMT’s share price is up 2.52% from 0.06926 cents to 0.071 cents on extremely weak trading volumes and little interest. The same when LQMT moves up or down.
LQMT is now into its 27th month without a new contract announcement for the order of parts.
A stock option recently was granted to Isaac Bresnick an officer of LQMT.
The share price has moved up for the past three weeks on weak trading volumes. There may be new investors buying in as trading volumes have sustained the sp climb.
Let’s hope that past history is not an indication of future results.
It is going to take the rest of the year to see if the little new interest in the stock has legs. Obviously, those with higher sights are looking for more than just forward worded well meaning expectations before they roll the dice and are willing to wait and pay a higher price. Otherwise, the current volumes would be trading about 1% to 2% daily. Years ago, that would have happened based on expectations and hype and no contracts. Just like all of those July August September Apple rumors every year.
Shareholders have paid LQMT hundreds of thousands of dollars. The time to see potential for a real return on those investments are long overdue. The time for all of the expectations to bear fruit should begin this year. I say should because almost every year many had the same expectations not based on fact but commentary from the company. I gave up on expectations and speculation. They sound great, hold a lot of promise but never deliver.
A psychologist might say if you don’t expect anything you won’t ever be disappointed. Sounds like great advice.
Perhaps in 2025 or 2026 LQMT might succeed and if they ever do make it in 2024, all in it will be very thankful and glad that they did.
Will this be the year revenues increase consistently? The 2nd, 3D, and 4th Q’s will tell. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if the 1st 10Q tics up.
Remember, without new revenues increasing quarterly and without progress due to cost of operations the share price is not averse to heading south again as stated in many of my posts. Fundamentals have not changed! cash burn is ongoing. No one bought the stock for rent revenue or market appreciation and a little increase in interest unless sustained will not prevent a SP retreat.
So far LQMT has done well to keep the stock from falling below 0.04 cents. They cannot let up now!
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
As for me, until it happens, (the annual expectations call,) it’s nothing more than a rosy outlook of the game Kick the Can. Same for another partnership old or new. After 2017, my days of wishful thinking and hype are over.
Let the 10K be your guide and any new 8K of increasing revenues be the proof of TC’s integrity along with the fruition of his comments be LQMT’s success this year and for years to come
A second form 4:
https://liquidmetal.gcs-web.com/node/12006/html
The simple minded minimize these.
Nice try but no cigar. Nothing in your opinion stated equates to the option being positive for all outside shareholders as I stated.
And no I do not have to move on from my train of thought. Rather you should move the focus off of the poster and move onto the facts of LQMT. I already covered the non cash segment in a previous reply to you in just one sentence. And nowhere do I say I’m worried about the dilution. Rather I did say every outside shareholder would be happy if all of the executives could exercise their options Monday morning.
I don’t buy the speculation anymore. I know there is plenty of it. I just go where the bottom line is. Right now it is not good. Based on talk not on deeds I get it. The future looks better.
But as far as why I should have a positive opinion on any stock options…
Like I stated nice try but no cigar.
Research... we all bought too early but that wasn't becasue LQMT ever hyped anything (at least since I have been aboard) and I am satisified that they are honorable people who don't blow any smoke or B.S. and I like dealing with people like that ........ even if their own hunches are not what we would hope... The thing I hope you can understand is that nobody on earth and not even a collection of the brightest minds in the world could ever make predictions about a pioneering process that involves the magnitude of what is in the process of being attempted / achieved... The fact that it has not been achieved yet on your timetable ...... does not mean that they have not accomplished things in record time once it is confirmed .... (when the Whales and others begin placing the large consistent orders). Until you ..... and I .... and most others understand what goes on in the background and what it takes to get new billion and trillion dollat innovations rolling out.... how can we do anything else except cheer them on for their efforts and tenacity and for NOT blowing a bunch a B.S. along the way .... I feel they have handled the pressure of prolonged results ...... (which is very normal in situations like this) ......... with real class.
The granting of options is a “non cash” method of rewarding someone for doing something good. maybe it was doing all the legwork associated with the EVIE ring or perhaps something else…who knows? if you are worried that 2 million shares will dilute the 914 million outstanding it’s a waste of time. If the concern is “he got something and you didn’t” you need to move on from that train of thought.
How so? Can you be specific as it applies to LQMT. Have these incentives to executives benefited outside shareholders? How Have they benefited the shareholders. In what specific manner are options for executives of LQMT a benefit and to whom? Can you point out a specific case or event in LQMT’s history where any of these opinions benefited us outside shareholders?
I understand the purpose of options incentives and bonuses for executives.
Did you know in a post not to long ago I pointed out that former executive PH still holds his LQMT stock options? And a few other former executives as well?
I can see the justification in other companies for the potential added dilution of shares where by contracts exist and revenues are earned up or down.
I can see why and I’m not against the issuing of options for all of the executives and employees of LQMT.
What I don’t see is the this; Regardless….i just don’t see how any of these options have benefited outside shareholders or are a positive based on historical fact to present day.
Especially when not one new contract has been announced by the executives operating LQMT, going into its 27th month! Just what the hell is so positive about that? Future expectations don’t cut it. Heck past options in recent years have been granted extensions. To me it’s just another game of Kick the Can. I could use more vulgar words to describe it from growing up in the streets of Brooklyn. But I was taught better at home.
Now maybe if I read the tea leaves correctly, since my grammar is piss poor, maybe Mr. IB who definitely is a lot smarter than I am, just maybe he could not afford to buy 2,000,000 million more shares of LQMT stock and contracts are on the horizon and the only way for him to be rewarded were the issuing of those options. Heck, I would love to see all of the executives exercise those options Monday morning. And so would everyone else.
It’s just that after two decades of owning shares I stopped speculating. Now if anyone wants to invest in a highly speculative stock today with no guarantees of success but never ever ending stock options for executives who are up front and honest. This is definitely the dice roll of a lifetime!
And for some here it definitely has been a lifetime and for others sadly they have gone on to their reward. May their souls rest in heaven.
Regardless… I just don’t see the positive and I’m glad you do. But if you can, since you respectfully disagree with my opinion. Could you please answer my questions about LQMT and stock options I pose above in the beginning of my reply so that I can better understand why those options are a positive?
Thank you.
Regardless.....IB getting granted these options is a positive.
Exactly TC paid cash.
Why would you reach that conclusion….the options are $0.02 in the money and 1/3 of them vest in 12 months…plus he doesn’t have to put up any cash until he exercises. TC paid cash to buy at $0.065.
Did you mean “good for appearances”?
In fact it would have been great if he bought the shares as TC bought his!
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck
The Early Adopters, especially the Whales.... are consuming a majority of their time with their 'wish lists' ........ and they are setting the priorities on just about everything....
That stock option doesn’t do squat for any outsider. Would have had more confidence if the expiration was 2027.
Makes sense. But I don’t think they (Yihao)will be permitted to fulfill any government contract for Amorphology. My thinking is LQMT will collect fees off of Amorphology’s use of LQMT’s IP.
I just don’t understand the statement from LQMT that they gain a local US manufacturing source, unless LQMT has some purposeful use of Amorphology Inc.’s US manufacturing partner. Especially as you point out they don’t have a great deal of their own manufacturing capacity.
This is what happens when there is no Q. And A.
Or an investor relations person to answer the phone.
I gather from what LQMT is trying to do is to commercialize Liquidmetal. What I don’t gather is what you also point out which I believe everyone else understands they lack marketing expertise since most long term shareholders could still see without eye glasses. Why have they not contracted with a known successful marketer is beyond me.
It would be easier for them to prototype an existing ball point pen from a well known existing company. Take it to them and let them market the pen as a lifetime Liquidmetal pen. Guaranteed not to Break, fail, dent, scratch resistant etc. All the consumer would have to do is buy the refills. They could come monogrammed or mass produced for companies as well. Would save a lot in consumption of natural resources as well. After costs a nickel a pen X 10 million pens = $500,000.00.
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