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I'm here patiently waiting it out. We'll see what happens.
Or someone went $3.00 into the red owing commission to their broker and didn't feel like adding money to their account to pay them.
Only one of two scenarios in that case...someone is trying to induce selling or hoping for someone to paint up by buying shares.
Because even if they wanted someone to buy 10k shares at .125, that's not the way to do it, because no one is dumb enough to buy at the ask until we see progress.
Someone's trying to cause panic, I believe to scoop up more shares at the bid.
Nah... 70 shares at .045 is $3.15 plus $9.99 fees
..?? I meant, Is someone trying to get their own order filled at a lower price.. nothing is obvious around here anymore.
Yes... It is obvious that the seller of those 70 shares wants some of us to buy a few 1000 to keep PPS up.
..someone trying to fill a buy order ??
LMAO. Did someone just sell 70 shares?
TWO HUNDRED SHARES
At the close — — — for thirteen ¢
Nice paint job, . . . . thanks to whomever that did it .
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WE (AIVI Board Members) buy 11M shares or so.
Let's say we buy 11.5 million shares at a dime ? . . . . . OK ?
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/AIVI/profile
WE NOW HAVE A CONTROLLING INTEREST IN AIVI for $1,150,000.00 . . . . . .
For 11.5 M shares for 10¢ . . . . NEVER FORGET, . . . shareholders own the company !
Then we boot the President, all of the other Sr. Executives, and finally the B.o.D.,
Then we will boost the share price by methods we'll discuss after we convene a new Board.
I will start the proceedings by nominating Martin, CoolBlue, Crusader and NonGolfer ( I still
love that name ! ) as the first four members of the new Board.
Whaddya say guys ? . . . . . A million bucks or so to boot these non-performing dolts from office ?
( The above was merely a phantasmagorical exercise, only )
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I have been concerned about THREE YEARS OF SILENCE.
Still I have not sold and am not selling either.
I read this post #8204 and it expressed my sentiments quite properly :
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=117056566
EXCERPT FROM POST 8204 :
. . . . . banking system which hold lots of loans to floundering companies like AIVI.
AIVI IS REINVENTING ITSELF AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND BANKS THAT HAVE LOANED IT VAST SUMS OF MONEY ON THE OLED FACTORY ARE CALLING THE SHOTS AND DEMANDING MEDIA SILENCE.
Where are you getting such info? I do not believe it for a second... But do what you want.
Last I spoke with one of the principals (4 mos ago) he said they were working on a few new projects...didn't exactly specify what those were.
You bet...bought a few more last week thanks to whomever sold them at .08.
Yeah, I've been thinking that too.
They could (i) push the stock up by some and then (ii) convert debt to equity in some legitimate fashion.
Happens in the OTC stocks all the time.
It's like the Sr. Managers are mired in inaction. . . . . . Can't imagine why ?
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Are you guys trying to get cheap shares? LOL
What is of interest to me is if the loans were so large, they should come here and push this stock ever higher...even a few weeks promoted would net them a few million.
Agreed. Unless they re-register, get current and show positive signs, any news coming out will be met with skepticism after such a long time.
Thanks for an excellent post
Good analysis.
I think you are correct - - - so many years of silence. . . . . . . Were there revenue or income to service the loans, there would not be so much silence. . . . . . . SO AIVI IS DEEP IN THE MONEY HOLE - - - unable to service the loans that built the huge and fabulous AIVI factory !
Makes sense !
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China is dealing with its stock market and
banking system which hold lots of loans to floundering companies like AIVI.
AIVI IS REINVENTING ITSELF AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND BANKS THAT HAVE LOANED IT VAST SUMS OF MONEY ON THE OLED FACTORY ARE CALLING THE SHOTS AND DEMANDING MEDIA SILENCE.
If we suddenly get lots of news about AIVI out of China, it could be a pump and dump plot for Gou to pay off some loans or go to jail- if he is not there already.
I plan to sell any big excitement- NOT BUY IT ABOVE .25 to .50 pps.
CALL ME CRAZY. BUT GOOD NEWS IS BAD NEWS IN THE LONG RUN FOR PENNY STOCKS.
ALL THIS SILENCE IS NOT GOOD NEWS. UNVERIFIABLE SUDDEN GOOD NEWS ABOUT UNBELIEVABLE EVENTS IS A SELL SIGNAL FOR ME. FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH. OF COURSE I COULD BE WRONG. YOU ASKED.
Nothing to say. Just waiting. Laffy at the volume in terms of market cap however.
I am still here. Nothing has changed. Someone loaded up... And probably waiting on more....
Either the company is getting ready to get current... Or a promotion is getting ready... And someone has been front loading.
A third possibility: A buy out or merger is pending. I actually heard of possible chat about this.... But who knows
Any of these three scenarios are great for us.
-54% -7 cents on 884 shares mmh ? imagine what massive buy volume would do when they open the books +2.00 ;)
I was looking around linkedin and facebook for any employee chatter the other day but found hints of activity and people getting ready to break out at the park on google.. will people in China look to put their $$ into Chinese companies on American exchanges now ? there was a mention of this earlier...
This ENDLESS WAITING is made easier
. . . . . by not thinking about AIVI or commenting upon it daily.
Or even weekly for that matter.
FOR EVERY POSITIVE POST - - - and every excellent reason to invest in this thing of ours - - - it never really moves, VOLUME NEVER REALLY RESPONDS.
Painful . ........ Like having a pineapple somewhere - - where it ought not to be.
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Who sells 884 shares?
Also, guess I'm the only one left on the board lol.
Thoughts on the renewed silence of late?
Holy cow!!!! I need to take a closer look when I can get on my laptop... But is that us? It said going on line October 2015!!!!
Thank you very much for the update, Martin!
I can hardly wait to be rewarded for 3 + years of waiting.
As you say, our time is near...
http://aivtech.com/en/news.asp?lm=2
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xyht.gov.cn%2Fxinwendongtai%2Fyuanquxinwen%2F2013%2F0122%2F2252.html&sandbox=1 click on "Park News" on right side- wait for slideshow:
Nada...
Patience a little longer boys! I believe our time is near.
Wow, a smidge under $24 of market cap moves today.
Latest news: more beating around the bush:
And no AIV birds take wing:
2015 Add a provincial key projects have been confirmed
Time: 2015-08-17 16:11 Source: unknown Author: Views: 138 Secondary
Through the Economic Development Board actively seek, according to "on the 2015 Class A first key construction projects for dynamic adjustment notice" (emphasis Yu Zheng Ban [2015] No. 24) spirit of the document, in 2015 the district added a province Key projects for the Xinyang Industrial Park Logistics Center. The total investment is 657 million yuan, annual plans to invest 200 million yuan, with a total construction area of 224,000 square meters, the main construction of public information service area, storage area, logistics area, e-commerce area, LTL line area and vehicle service area.
Currently in our region there are four provincial key projects, namely Xinyang intelligent terminal (phone) Headquarters project (a), Xinyang City Industrial City phone production project (letter Sidel, grace, Zhanyi, Sword, first sense), primary Wong electronics industrial park and an international logistics center and distribution projects, Xinyang Industrial City logistics center projects with a total investment of 8.56813 billion yuan, yuan to July total investment 2,242,770,000 yuan, 2.965 billion yuan annual investment plan of 75.6%.
(Editor: Xinyang High-tech Zone)
AIVI BUYOUT OR MERGER
So says a guy that had a look at this for me!!!
It is a scenario I had not considered!
Another company with plans to buy the company would be buying up cheap shares... so there would be less common shares on the market to pay the big bucks for!
It would also explain the dead silence of the company for past several months.
It is a scenario worth thinking about....
I like candy bars for dessert!
Winning!
You did good !
A buck sixty seven is nothing to get 999 shares to even your holdings.
An extra-large candy bar, basically.
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The trade cost me $1.67, and I'll get a rebate due to the way I routed it. It executed immediately, but I directed it to NITE. So you're correct, $1.67 is very expensive as a percentage, and significantly more than I would normally pay.
MAKES SENSE !
WELL THEN, thanks for clearing that up ! ! !
HERE'S WHAT THE BIG DEAL IS :
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/oddlot.asp
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB119501231584492459
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/09/odd-lot-share-cost.asp
In a nutshell : ...... (1) Odd lots are more expensive to fill, always. ...... Often MUCH MORE expensive . . . and, ...... (2) ODD LOTS are slower to fill. Often MUCH SLOWER. ...... Sometimes you can wait a few days to get a fill for an unusual amount of shares in a thinly-traded stock !
I did not know it was you getting the 999 shares - - - and you bought them for a very good reason. ...... I meant no disrespect and I apologize sincerely if offense was taken.
Until2017
I bought 999 shares because I had an odd number of AIVI in my portfolio. I'm not sure what the big deal is.
$AIVI Transaction today
( But this post is not entirely about AIVI )
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9:38:54 AM
999 shares seems strange to me . . . . but I do not know the reason for the trade in this case .
Until2017
Good point, coolbluewater.
It does seem like a news blackout.
AIV obviously controls its own website, but as you say there is little free press there and the local governments can dictate what's off limits- even in business news.
Still wonder if AIV's new product(s) are classified under national security. That would "justify" a blackout. But it is a grand leap from computer chairs to national security. Maybe the Red Chinese Army hackers unit needs ergonomic chairs, because of all the time spent on-line.
Thanks, Martin! eom
China is an oligarchy. Press is controlled, esp. in the provinces.
Local govts don't want you to print something, it doesn't get printed.
Wouldn't surprise me at all that Guo, given his ties to the govt, has told them to hold off on press until they work out some new products.
Patience is key here. I've made a ton of money waiting out trends I knew were right.
The difficulty is in all the waiting when you think your money could be making money in the interim.
But based on the last EPS, this could see dollars, not pennies. And that's why I continue to hold.
$AIVI I never seen a share price move so fast... interesting
It is very simple actually. Remember... It is either insiders buying who know something.
Or it is a promo team preparing for a hot stock promo thing.
Either is the same results for us. $$$$
And both scenarios are the same process for the buyers. You can NOT buy at ask or it will beat $1.00 plus after a couple hundred thousand shares are bought. They know this. To buy a bunch of cheap shares... You have to sit there and wait for people to sell into the bid. And that is exactly what has been happening for the last couple months.
We will be rewarded... Soon.
BID SITTER !
Your quote :
" . . . .whoever this is who is buying up shares... Knows something. They are not buying to hold for six months . . . "
Whatever they do know or do not know, THEY ARE NOT WILLING to PAY A FAIR PRICE for the shares they vacuum up.
According to my Schwab quote system, the quote ( as of this second ) is 8¢ .
Hmmmmmm, eight. ......... Yeah - - - that's the going price.
Games ! ! ! ......... I'll hold on forever if need be. ......... Griping along the way - - - but HOLDING, nonetheless !
GLTA
Until2017
Why soon?
Because whoever this is who is buying up shares... Knows something. They are not buying to hold for six months.
Over the last few months.... Yes.
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Name of the entity & % of AIVtech ownership of its subsidiaries: | Place of Incorporation | Ownership Percentage | ||||
AIVtech International Group Co. | Nevada | 100 | % | |||
AIVtech Holding Co., Ltd | Hongkong, China | 100 | % | |||
Shenzhen AIVtech Electronics Co., Ltd. (Shenzhen AIVtech) | Shenzhen, China | 100 | % | |||
Dongguan AIVtech Electronics Co., Ltd. (Dongguan AIVtech) | Dongguan, China | 70 | % | |||
Henan AIVtech Electronics Co., Ltd. (Henan AIVtech) | Henan, China | 60 | % |
Currently the plan is to start production in 2014. The total investment in this project will be around ¥30 billion (or about $4.82 billion, including building all the infrastructure such as roads and power lines), and the first line (with the 30,000 monthly sheet capacity) will cost ¥3.6 billion ($580 million). Obviously this is a very ambitious project, especially if you consider that AIV is currently trading at a value of around $1.7 to $3 million USD. It doesn't seem likely to me that this company will be able to raise the cash needed to develop this project (although the local government will help with the funding and AIV claims they have investors lined up).
WATCH THE VIDEO LINKED HERE AND SEE WHAT AIVI IS INSTALLING NOW, Q4 2013:
http://www.oled-info.com/ots-publishes-new-corporate-presentation-video-showing-their-pca-48-45-gen-ink-jet-processing-line |
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