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Thank's but I have no clue as to how to begin. I made few calls but got the run around but will continue.
Thanks again.
i'd suggest a call to the newly *revamped*
enforcement division of the sec ..
i have a feeling a few agents there might
want to chat with you if that is indeed
the case
gl
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all jmo
To be honest with you I believe that I may very well be behind NITE control. I own (for real) 95% af all penny stocks that exist and have at all & any time bids and asks on all of them. I have major position's with scottrade on all of them so maybe nite is using my shares to have his game going. I don't know its my assumption.
In december they took away from me in my scottrade acct# 163 position's. I am talking about big money here. So did etrade take from 86 positions worth hundreds of thousands of dollors.
I havn't done yet anything about it cause I really don't have the time (yet). I'm a trader and and focused only on that. Maybe I should its very likely they sold me over the years all these shares that never existed. Who knows? I don't.
But I am by far the largest penny stock holder in this country (so I think). And nite,ubss,doms,etmm, they all know it fact.
but that is the problem ..
because after over 3 years
as the king of the penny market
it's pretty clear there is an *issue*
with NITE ~ either their internal controls
are sub standard or the individuals who
*utilize* NITE are sub standard .. either
way forensics exist to sort this crap out
IF .. the interest and will is there
retail has few options ~ they can literally
call every day into finra and the sec .. they
can track trades and file complaints *every day*
and retail can send letter upon letter (or email)
to their local congressperson and senators ~ and
hope that *they* haven't been compromised and
actually have an interest in *understanding* what
has passed for normal
but the *reality* is .. good luck finding any co.
on the OTC/OTC BB that NITE isn't the primary MM on
that hasn't had their stock's PPS .. *significantly*
show consistent erosion over the past 2 to 3 years
IF THEY EVEN STILL EXIST
here's to changes *rumored* to be coming
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4kids
all jmo
Agreed! However If not for NITE stock's under 0.05 wouldn't exist and there's no way you have the potential of buying n selling stock in subpenny land period.
Recently restriction's on NITE nss is in place which lifted and created major movement in penny world.
Trust me if NITE is gone were all in the grey market mark my word's. These company's don't exist and it's all about pump n dump's period.
How many of these sub penny stock's went up to a dollor in the past 10 year's and are still there? none.
Take the good n the bad. The good is very rewarding.
Who cares if nite is arca or whomever/whatever.
I don't like them either but without them the game ends overnight.
GL.
Hi abe574, tell me do you know which market maker trades NITE? We will only need NITE until there are enough QIBs to act as market makers.... 100 Million is all you need to be a MM, we only need 499 of them for each of our favorite investments. How would the liquidity be then? I'm sure none of the QIBs would be able to restrict any stock, when it would be in their best interest. So who is NITE's MM? Oh yes thats right ARCA..... on the bid and the ask. How interesting NITE even has a monopoly on its own and only MM.
Where is the liquidity in that? I would have no problems with NITE continuing with what they are doing, let them do it at .01 or even .0001..... PPS should not effect the way they do business.
Or would it?
ICequity In Truth,
"And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called night"
hey don'n think thats such a good thing. look at which mm we will be dealing with. They wont short like nite and the same time they dont provide liquidity which I promise you will be a big problem to execute orders.
Nite must keep pennyland under control cause the manipulation is just gonna be too big when me n you know that all these companys dont exist and or have nothing.
And the public and many other r gonna get screwd if the let it fly up like crazy.
things in pennyland are on the move right now and will continue to go much higher (overall) but we still need nite trust me I have been here for years and the other mm are much bigger criminals.
Looks like nite is looseing control of this up and down ride.For the pass few weeks.Nite has control pps from dropping below $15 a share.Nite was controling this for the past few weeks.Lets hope this down turn in pps.Is do to the changes in pennyland.Will continue to watch nite fleas...
yep .. funny how those that reap
eventually do sow
i despise knight
imo there are few other MM's who
will have the ability to *control*
others as they have ~
i look forward to their stock being
*shorted* into oblivion and can only
*prey* that others profit by their
destruction as well .. with out a doubt
a practice that knight/nite is very
familiar with over these last few years
i'm sure the sec and doj are just *digging* away
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4kids
all jmo
heading in the right direction-$7
Good vol today for Nite.But pps down..Keep up the good work....Nite Fleas
Thanks for the link to the excell data base, 'mwab52'. When I got to your linked page, I then clicked on the 'wikipedia' link discussing 'naked short selling', the which had a nice, long speel about the whole of naked shorting, but unfortunately, with no concluding remarks, via the article, openly condemning strongly enough and/or punishing the malefactors of the said practice. It's an interesting read if one is concerned about this illicit practice. I think to keep your post so as to link that web site for future investigations. GLTU!
JAIME
Results for the 2010 KNIGHT CAPITAL GROUP INC. Survey
8 people took the Survey.
Question Answer Num Votes % Votes
What price will NITE hit first?
5 Year Low $7.28 (7) 87%
5 Year High $23.11 (1) 12%
87% of the 8 people that voted think NITE $7.28 will be seen before NITE $23.11
Ativo Research downgrades KNIGHT CAPITAL GROUP, INC. from NEUTRAL to UNFAVORABLE.
INVESTARS ANALYST ACTIONS - PRIVATE – 03/27/2010
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does anyone really blame them?
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4kids
all jmo
Nite pps lower today again...Keep up the good wotk....
(Nite) having problems with (HESG) stock.Nite & HDSN has been 1-2 punch on (HESG) stock.Sitting on the bid and ask 1-2 @0001-0002...Doms and other 5-(MM) want pps @0002-0003.Nite Refused.So Nite is at the bid and ask without HDSN @0001-0002.And vol is only 14M nearly no tradeing last trade 11:47:17 est for 350000.Nite has tired for months to get (HESG) pps to 0000 no bid.Why? Nite ds'nt want pps to go up.Why? Who was buying the last few day's.Could it be Scottrade? Was Nite and HDSN selling @0001-0002 to Scottrade? Why? Nite Fleas
Never heard of Lite Capital?
YTD 2009 - 2010 is much then 21.3B ... Mwab52 ever heard of LITE Capital?
You ever seen NITE short 100% of a stocks float?
20091103|HESG|shorts 763,703,064|volume 1,321,101,443|O
Nov. 2009 NITE traded 10.6B shares of HESG
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/tradeact_mv.asp?SearchBy=issue&Issue=HESG&SortBy=volume&Month=11-1-2009&IMAGE1.x=21&IMAGE1.y=7
YTD 2010 NITE traded 21.3B shares of HESG
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/tradeact_mv.asp?SearchBy=issue&Issue=HESG&SortBy=volume&Month=12-1-2009&IMAGE1.x=24&IMAGE1.y=3
Officially before Feb. 3 2010, HESG had 3B Authorized, 2.2B Outstanding, and 600M float.
YTD 2009 Total
HESG traded over 43 Billion combined by all Market Makers.
NITE handling over 22 Billion total HESG shares.
Thinking rationally just on these numbers, debate nothing but these facts of the trade... what are your thoughts?
Would NITE short a speculative penny stock?
Knowing that NITE does not have a margin call unless the shorted stock closes over $1.50, what will stop NITE from doing this to other stocks?
Shorting penny stocks are not done by most traders. To short $100 at .0002, most brokers require 2.5 Million on margin for every $100 shorted.
What would NITE's margin call be at $1.50 = Over $1 Billion?
What would HESG Price Per Share be if total float = 1 Billion?
Add the phantom from Naked Short Selling ... if any.
Add a merger or buyout of HESG, what number do you come up with?
Who is HESG biggest share holder?
Who would have the most to gain with HESG success?
Think about these facts, and lets discuss these facts?
Peace Regardless.
i see the news went over like a lead balloon :)
buy the rumor
sell the news
or just short
NITE for $$$$
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4kids
all jmo
If you were trying to save $$$.Would you want pps to move up? By the why!Did you no Scottrade left (HESG) restriction.Why? When they put a restriction on a company that they said publicly did noting wrong? Scottrader said they had a Settelment problem. After 2mo Scottrade removed there restriction with no (PR)? To help who? (MM) now gave Nite and HDSN a choice @0002-0003.Either sit on the bid or the ask @0002-0003.(MM) will not let them sit on both after today..Now you have (hesg) possibly shorted.Nite ds'nt want pps to move high.Why? Nite Fleas
"Whey would (NITE) want to stay on the ask @0002 for weeks?"
OK, let me guess. Because NITE is representing a sell order from either a- the company itself, or b- an insider or promoter who has a ton of shares, and that party is blowing as much stock as it can at that price?
Yep, that's it, IMO.
Looking forwared to next week.Nite you should no!Penny land is getting smarter everyday.Investor are learning your game....Nite Fleas
Today was a great day to watch (Nite) get force of the ask on (HESG) stock..(MM) Doms and 5-other got tired of Nite & HSDN sitting on 0002 for past week.And force (HESG) stock to move up on 170M shares traded.Ask yourself!Whey would (NITE) want to stay on the ask @0002 for weeks? When 6-other (MM) sit @0003? I will tell you why..Nite has a (HESG) problem! And it's called short.Let see what next week brings....Will update....Nite Fles
Their vol. is 100,000 more than SPNG
Looks like Nite is having a great day.Keep up the good work....Nite Fleas
Something i started doing from my very first post.Bashers hate it...So i have continued to post this way.....
What's with the (parens)? They make your (POSTS) hard to (read).
ICE...
Could (hesg) be buying back shares?(CEO) stated in (PR).He would buy back if the time was right.What could be a better time then the last few weeks.Buying has been going on slow and steady.And the vol is staying low.That does nothing but helps (hesg)..jmo...
Great read...ICE.....
REPLACE NITE(HEDGE FUND) HESG(VW) AND GAFFNEY(PORSCHE) Then this would be a more interesting story.....
But then, last October 26th, they stepped forward and bared their portfolio: through a combination of stock and options, they owned 75% of Volkswagen, which is almost all the company’s circulating stock. (The remainder is tied up in funds that cannot easily release it.)
To put it mildly, the numbers scared the living hell out of the hedge funds: if they didn’t immediately buy back the Volkswagen stock they were shorting, there might not be any left to buy later, and it isn’t their stock — they have to return it to someone. If their only option is thus to buy the VW stock from Porsche, then the miracle of supply and demand will hit again, and Porsche can ask for whatever price it wants per VW share — twenty times their value, a hundred times their value — because there’s no other place to buy. They’re the only game in town.
And that, my friends, is called a short squeeze.
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Porsche’s ownership disclosure sent the hedge funds on such a flurry of purchases for any Volkswagen stock still in circulation that the VW share price jumped from below €200 to over €1000 at one point on October 28th, making Volkswagen for a brief time the world’s most valuable company by market cap.
On paper, Porsche made between €30-40 billion in the affair. Once all is said and done, the actual profit is closer to some €6-12 billion. To put those numbers in perspective, Porsche’s revenue for the whole year of 2006 was a bit over €7 billion.
Porsche’s move took three years of careful maneuvering. It was darkly brilliant, a wealth transfer ingeniously conceived like few we’ve ever seen. Betting the right way, Porsche roiled the financial markets and took the hedge funds for a fortune.
Betting the wrong way, Adolf Merckle took his life.
Could (Nite) have a short problem with (HESG) shares? I can't wait to see what next week brings for (Nite) and (HESG)..Finra reporting short position twice a a month and posting daily shorted stocks.Is great for investoe....jmo....nite fleas
(MM) L2 screen pattern 3/19/2010....8 @0001 Bid x 1 @0002 Ask..All other (MM) sitting @0003.(Nite) continue to sell at the Ask 0002.Looks like (Nite) dose'nt want pps to go up.Why? This will go to 0003 or better Monday with no (PR).Investor holding onto there shares..(Nite) is having big time problems with (hesg) shares.And will pay......jmo.....L2 screen is fun to watch..Sometime L2 has 8x2 and soon as a big buy come in.(HDSN) runs and hides.Leaving 8x1 and 7(MM) @0003.This has gone on for 2-days...Monday early should start an uptick....jmo...(HESG) (CEO) holds the keys all over again.This game of chess is now being played on (HESG) (CEO) terms..Why did ST lift trade restriction? To help (HESG)? Or to help (Nite)? Low vol is great for (HESG).How can you short a stock.When poster are stating 20B a/s dilution.If (HESG) (CEO) is diltuing.Why would (MM) short a stock 5-days in a row at a avg of 75% or better.Right!.(Nite) problem started when they thought they could walk this stock to no bid.....jmo...And now there hold is so deep.They needed ST help.But until (PR) theres nothing they can do.Because they need high Vol now to cover.Who's buying shares.ST is to help (NITE) Monday they will be buying 0003 from other (MM)...jmo...nite fleas
I agree NITE would be a best buy at .0002, I would be a buyer regardless.
I dont no if they are or not.But i no i'am here waiting..haha!
(Nite) vs (HESG)..This fight has been going on for months now.Nite walked (HESG) pps down from 0024-0002.(HESG) (pr) 2B shares retired.(HESG) problems started! 1)ST,TDA,USBB restricted (HESG) shares.Companys stating a Settlement problem.Not with (HESG) but with (Nite) 2)(MM) started walking (HESG) pps down.3) (CEO) (PR) 3-times good new's to shareholder,pps still went do.3) I made a stock buy @0003,but order went threw @00029 making my order look like sell. 4) Next day 420 Team was born,For 5-days we track (MM) paint buys as sell at the 5th digit.(HESG) is a future stock that will not go away.(Nite) now is the only (MM) sitting on the ASK @0002 for the past week,7 other (MM) are sitting and waiting @0003.This lil stock will win.With Nite or without.Nite will remember the lil stock that did.Investor now is the time to fight for your investment.Dont let these naysayer,basher,doom and gloom wantabe's scare you out of your investment.Nite Flea day's is comeing.I dont wish any of Nite investors ill will.But get out!Befor the big fall.It's just a matter of when.....Nite Fleas
You guys are funny, I wonder if there are really any NITE investors out there? Or those phanTom as well?
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Posted by: mwab52 Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:50:57 PM
In reply to: wylder111 who wrote msg# 64855 Post # of 64897
Whey do you post here?You have no shares!Then you have everyones posts..Deleted..as off topic?????????????????????? (hesg)
Instead you of saying prove it to iHub posters that provide links and email addresses, do you think you can possibly open the links or email the contacts?
Is that too much to ask?
Well- why do you question my DD then run away?
So what did you think of HESG's transfer agents emails today?
Right? Keep Up the good work.And please continue to post your great (DD)....Nite....(HESG)
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Knight Capital Group, Inc. (collectively with its subsidiaries, "Knight" or the "Company") is a global financial services firm that provides access to the capital markets across multiple asset classes to a broad network of clients, including broker-dealers, institutions and corporations. The Company seeks to continually apply its expertise and innovation to the market making and trading process to build lasting client relationships through consistent performance and superior client service. The Company has four operating segments: (i) Market Making, (ii) Institutional Sales and Trading, (iii) Electronic Execution Services and (iv) Corporate and Other.
Market Making
The Market Making segment principally consists of market making in global equities and listed domestic options. As a market maker, the Company commits capital for trade executions by offering to buy securities from, or sell securities to, institutions and broker-dealers. The Market Making segment primarily includes client, and to a lesser extent, non-client electronic market making activities in which the Company operates as a market maker in equity securities quoted and traded on the Nasdaq Stock Market; the over-the-counter ("OTC") market for New York Stock Exchange ("NYSE"), NYSE Amex Equities ("NYSE Amex"), NYSE Arca listed securities; and several European exchanges. As a complement to electronic market making, the Company's cash trading business handles specialized orders and also transacts on the OTC Bulletin Board, the OTC Pink Markets and the Alternative Investment Market ("AIM") of the London Stock Exchange. The segment provides trade executions as an equities Designated Market Maker ("DMM") on the NYSE and NYSE Amex. The Market Making segment also includes the Company's option market making business which trades on substantially all domestic electronic exchanges.
Institutional Sales and Trading
The Institutional Sales and Trading segment includes global equity, exchange traded funds ("ETFs"), and fixed income sales; reverse mortgage origination and securitization; capital markets; and asset management activities. The primary business of the Institutional Sales and Trading segment is to execute and facilitate equities, ETFs and fixed income transactions as an agent on behalf of institutional clients, and commits capital on behalf of clients when needed. This is predominantly a full-service execution business, in which much of the interaction is based on the Company's client relationships. This segment also facilitates client orders through program and block trades and riskless principal trades and provides capital markets services, including equity and debt private placement.
Electronic Execution Services
The Electronic Execution Services segment offers access via its electronic agency-based platforms to markets and self-directed trading in equities, options, fixed income, foreign exchange and futures. In contrast to Market Making, the businesses within this segment generally do not act as a principal to transactions that are executed and generally earn commissions for acting as an agent between the principals to the trade.
Corporate and Other
The Corporate and Other segment invests in strategic financial services-oriented opportunities, allocates, deploys and monitors all capital, and maintains corporate overhead expenses and all other income and expenses that are not attributable to the other segments. The Corporate and Other segment houses functions that support the Company's other segments such as self-clearing services, including stock lending activities.
Discontinued Operations
Discontinued operations comprises costs associated with shutting down the Company's former Deephaven Capital Management business which was discontinued in 2009.
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