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Heretic.....lol. The next thing you'll be sayin' is that God is an alien.
Digital Elvis & Zero ~ Heaven's Blues (Instrumental)
Yep.....that's their claim
There's no definitive answer, so your guess is as good as mine but......here's another clue......
In the end I think what really matters is how a person treated his fellow man and what good things he did in this life. I mean there are a lot of religions and organizations that persecute and even kill others just because they are different. IMO there could be atheists and agnostics that were really good to people that end up in decent spots.
My opinion is the burning could be dwelling on things you did for eternity. You know a burning from within. I guess if you weren't that bad then you would be ok. The heaven on the other hand could be a lot better? Maybe you have the freedom to create your own paradise. Visit loved ones and different parts of the Universe at will?
Bataan actually has a tour now according to my wife. We have a lady friend who is from the south here, but she's visiting from Kuwait where she works now. End of the month we're going on that tour. We head to Manila bay near Roxas Blvd for a boat ride for a 1,000 pesos to get there. Should be interesting.
I've seen every episode of The Pacific. Good show, but I never heard stories from my old man till after I graduated boot camp.
Beautiful state w v - have good friend lives in
hinton on the river -
He spends summer there and winter in sunny
florida - way to go -
We would get more visitations if Aliens didn't land around my cousins in WV. Those poor Aliens don't stand a chance!
We enjoy your posts.. Don't be scared we won't bite!
If they do it's pure ignorance!
What's your view of Face Book?
With as much as they have invested ....it's the point of no return.
I don't think they're going to continue to support it. I think it was just for opening day, imo.
Route of the death march. Section from San Fernando to Capas was by rail cars.[1][2]
The Bataan Death March (Japanese:Batan Shi no Koshin (?????????)) was the forcible transfer, by the Imperial Japanese Army, of 76,000 American and Filipino prisoners of war after the three-month Battle of Bataan in the Philippines during World War II, which resulted in the deaths of thousands of prisoners.[3]
The 128 km (80 mi) march was characterized by wide-ranging physical abuse and murder, and resulted in very high fatalities inflicted upon prisoners and civilians alike by the Japanese Army, and was later judged by an Allied military commission to be a Japanese war crime.[4]
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The Japanese were unprepared for the number of prisoners that they were responsible for, and there was no organized plan for how to handle them. Prisoners were stripped of their weapons and valuables, and told to march to Balanga, the capital of Bataan. Many were beaten, bayonetted and mistreated. The first major atrocity occurred when between 350 and 400 Filipino officers and NCOs were summarily executed after they had surrendered.[5]
Dead soldiers on the Bataan Death March.
The Japanese failed to supply the prisoners with food or water until they had reached Balanga. Many of the prisoners died along the way of heat or exhaustion.[6] Prisoners were given no food for the first three days, and were only allowed to drink water from filthy water buffalo wallows on the side of the road. At times, prisoners were made to bury their comrades alive at the side of the roads. Any refusal to do so was met with execution and further punishment to others.[7] Furthermore, Japanese troops would frequently beat and bayonet prisoners who began to fall behind, or were unable to walk. Once they arrived in Balanga, the overcrowded conditions and poor hygiene caused dysentery and other diseases to rapidly spread amongst the prisoners. The Japanese failed to provide them with medical care, leaving U.S. medical personnel to tend to the sick and wounded (with few or no supplies).[6]
Prisoners on the march from Bataan to the prison camp, May 1942. (National Archives).
In June 2001, U.S. Congressional Representative Dana Rohrabacher described the horrors and brutality that the prisoners experienced on the march:
"They were beaten, and they were starved as they marched. Those who fell were bayoneted. Some of those who fell were beheaded by Japanese officers who were practicing with their samurai swords from horseback. The Japanese culture at that time reflected the view that any warrior who surrendered had no honor; thus was not to be treated like a human being. Thus they were not committing crimes against human beings.[...] The Japanese soldiers at that time [...] felt they were dealing with subhumans and animals."[8]
Trucks were known to drive over some of those who fell or succumbed to fatigue,[9][10][11] and "cleanup crews" put to death those too weak to continue. Marchers were harassed with random bayonet stabs and beatings.[12]
From San Fernando, the prisoners were transported by rail to Capas. 100 or more prisoners were stuffed into each of the trains' boxcars, which were unventilated and sweltering in the tropical heat. The trains had no sanitation facilities, and disease continued to take a heavy toll of the prisoners. After they reached Capas, they were forced to walk the final 9 miles to Camp O'Donnell.[6] Even after arriving at Camp O'Donnell, the survivors of the march continued to die at a rate of 30–50 per day, leading to thousands more dead. Most of the dead were buried in mass graves that the Japanese dug out with bulldozers on the outside of the barbed wire surrounding the compound.[13]
The death toll of the march is difficult to assess as thousands of captives were able to escape from their guards (although many were killed during their escapes), and it is not known how many died in the fighting that was taking place concurrently. All told, approximately 2,500–10,000 Filipino and 300–650 American prisoners of war died before they could reach Camp O'Donnell.[6]
[edit]Public responses
News of the Bataan Death March sparked outrage in the US, as reflected in this poster.
[edit]Japanese
In an attempt to counter the American propaganda value of the march, the Japanese had The Manila Times claim that the prisoners were treated humanely and their death rate had to be attributed to the intransigence of the American commanders who did not surrender until their men were on the verge of death.[14]
[edit]United States
The Bataan Death March, and other Japanese actions, were used to arouse fury in the United States.[15] It was not until January 27, 1944 that the U.S. government informed the American public about the march, when it released sworn statements of military officers who had escaped from the march.[16]
General Marshall made the following statement about the march:
These brutal reprisals upon helpless victims evidence the shallow advance from savagery which the Japanese people have made. [...] We serve notice upon the Japanese military and political leaders as well as the Japanese people that the future of the Japanese race itself, depends entirely and irrevocably upon their capacity to progress beyond their aboriginal barbaric instincts.[17]
Retired Army Capt. Tom Harrison, 93 of Utah, is the last known survivor left from his unit. He was recently awarded numerous medals for his heroic actions during World War II.[18]
Philip Coon, 92, of Oklahoma is also a survivor. He was a private first class with the 31st Infantry. He is a full-blood member of the Muskogee Nation.[19]
At least five remaining survivors are living in the state of Washington (as of Feb 2012).[20]
Major Robert Wray of Iowa (Oct. 9, 1916 - April 27, 2012) was Commanding Officer of the 34th Pursuit Squadron, flying P40’s. He was General Wainwright’s Air Officer, Provost Marshall and photography officer for Clark and Nichols Field in the Philippines. Bob was one of the few survivors and remained a prisoner for over three and a half years. After spending a year and a half recovering from his near death experience, Major Wray retired honorably with a medical discharge. He received several awards and medals including the Silver Star and Purple Heart. [21]
Retired Master Sergeant Lewis A. Hazel, 94, of Savannah, Georgia, is also a survivor. He was a Corporal (CPL) and in the 27th Bomb Group, 16th Bomb Squadron. [22]
[edit]War crimes trial
U. S. Army personnel toiled to identify the charred remains of Americans captured at Bataan and burned alive on Palawan. Picture shows charred remains being interred in grave. March 20, 1945
In December 1943, (General) Masaharu Homma was selected as the minister of information for the incoming prime minister, Kuniaki Koiso. In September 1945, he was arrested by Allied troops, and indicted for war crimes.[23] Homma was charged with 43 different counts of crimes against humanity.[24] The court found that Homma had permitted his troops to commit "brutal atrocities and other high crimes".[25] The general, who had been absorbed in his efforts to capture Corregidor after the fall of Bataan, claimed in his defense that he remained ignorant of the high death toll of the death march until two months after the event.[26] On February 26, 1946 he was sentenced to death by firing squad. He was executed on April 3, 1946 outside Manila.[23] Also in Japan, Generals Hideki Tojo (later Prime Minister), Kenji Doihara, Seishiro Itagaki, Heitaro Kimura, Iwane Matsui and Akira Muto, and Baron Koki Hirota were found guilty and responsible for the brutal maltreatment of American and Filipino POW's, and were executed by hanging at Sugamo Prison in Ikebukuro on December 23, 1948. Several others were sentenced to imprisonment of between 7 and 22 years.[citation needed]
[edit]Memorials and commemorative events
Main article: Memorials to Bataan Death March victims
In many places throughout the United States, and in the Philippines, there exist dozens of memorials (such as monuments, plaques and schools) dedicated to the U.S. and Filipino prisoners who died during the Bataan Death March. A wide variety of commemorative events are held to honor the victims, including holidays, athletic events such as ultramarathons, and memorial ceremonies held at military cemeteries.
Supposedly the Ark of the Covenant....but the Ethiopianss have claimed owning it for 3000 years!
100% PROOF THAT GOD EXISTS - MUST SEE ALL ATHEISTS
What did the Templars find?
whats wrong? and let me guess, you think everything revolves around the sun and the earth is round?
Yes he does....good observation!
The kid looks like an alien.
Wall a boy after your own heart
http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/05/16/president-obama-jaden-smith-aliens/
Japanese holdouts or stragglers were Japanese soldiers in the Pacific Theatre who, after the August 1945 surrender of Japan that marked the end of World War II, either adamantly doubted the veracity of the formal surrender due to strong dogmatic or militaristic principles, or were not aware of it because communications were cut off by the United States island hopping campaign. They continued to fight occupying forces, and later, local police, years after the war was over. Other Japanese holdouts volunteered in the Vietnamese Independence war and Indonesian Independence war to free Asian colonies from Western control, which was one of Imperial Japan's predicated goals during World War II.
Intelligence officer Hiroo Onoda, who surrendered on Lubang Island in the Philippines in March 1974, and Teruo Nakamura, who was stationed on Morotai Island in Indonesia and surrendered in December 1974, were the last confirmed holdouts.
Bloomberg was saying JP Morgan won't let it fall below 38.00!
You are kidding with that date right?
You can watch the rest......great show here
I bet he is....... here is a taste of what those men went thru
Sherman you should post to War...his dad fought in the Pacific Theater too during the Big One!
These guys won't let it drop below 38. Bloomberg reported that
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=52482470
Wall runs a top notch board!
What's really cool is that all the way into the early 70s they had Japanese Soldiers on the PI that didn't know the war was over!
http://www.wanpela.com/holdouts/registry.html
Liar!!! Lol....
I'm so happy I don't play the market.
FLG....mt favorite Floridian...."a mean business woman", lol. .......lord have mercy.
I am ready to watch that sucker drop or move...I love to scalp...and have no problem scalping all day long....up or down... After today, we should see some decent scalping this next week..
Monday is a good day to place a put option on FB.
It's a disgrace to NASDAQ.
I was waiting for that hoopla to top out so that I could short the shit out of it......what a disappointment! Mark Z..sucks penis!
Actually Wall_rus is providing me with a wonderful distraction and a joyful exchange on his board. Have you been over there?
Thanks Rich. He passed away at 12:40 this morning. Not such a great day for me. I appreciate the thought though. I am ok with things for him since I have a different perspective on death, but for those he left behind, it is different for them...and yes me too. Separation is painful.
Lol!! I'm enjoying the FB IPO. What a cluster fuck that is!!
I hope you're having a better day that the other day.
Glad you made it home safe.
Lol!! I'm enjoying the FB IPO. What a cluster fuck that is!!
I hope you're having a better day than the other day.
Glad you made it home safe.
Hey, how's it shakin' my hellraising pinhead friend? I am home now and no more driving tonight. So tired.
HI.... 'empressgreen1'!!!
Drive safe!!
Making my way home from a long day at work. Won't be able to hang out long but wanted to say hi since you were looking for me...which is a nice thing by the way.
Thnx mucho for saving me the trouble of finding that. 2348 BC.
Around 2348 BC, a worldwide flood crushed and reshaped the earth’s surface, breaking up a single landmass (Pangaea) into continents and fossilizing countless living things.
http://www.icr.org/article/dinosaur-fossil-erases-40-million-years/
lots of creation science info here-> http://www.icr.org/
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