Investor Help (NO Ihub questions)

[stevo51]

thanx much!!!

[cintrix]

mailbox/kept archive

[stevo51]

where do ya find kept posts thanx..

[RJ5]

This might be the one:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=7308

[cintrix]

welcome

[ofspring]

Thank you fir your help. I will keep an eyee on it..,

[ofspring]

Look at my wach list starts with a g. I dont have pm thank u for your help

[cintrix]

It is difficult to answer that since i didn't see it and even if I did it would be speculative. But, yes, that is suspicious that one print would bring it down that much and then 20X that only brings it up 10% - sounds dilutive to me.

[ofspring]

It was a short its very obvious but my question is why it goe down so much for 500 and all day it took 10000 or more to trade to get back up 10%?

[ofspring]

First trade in the mornong was 500 went down 33% then I was lookong at onother board that I have stock also with and he had all short trades for 5 days straight my stock that had tge 500 trade that went down 33% first thing was liated on thwre and about 2000 more stocks shorted..

[stockview]

Thank you!! very helpful!

[cintrix]

u can't know for sure if that was a short - u didn't mention the size of the buy that increased it 10% - was that 500 shares too?

[ofspring]

I thought it was about 12000 or little more..

[cintrix]

how many shares traded for the whole day? sounds like a very thinly traded stock and that is probably why they swings

[ofspring]

It was the same price as the bid for two hrs and the 500 was on the short list dailly report on friday.

[cintrix]

stockview, here is that board I was thinking about:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=7145

[cintrix]

Was your bid lower than the current bid? And how do u know in that other instance it was short?

[cintrix]

Well if it eventually turns into a shell and another company reverses into it then, in that situation, may be advantageous to the shareholders. You know there was a board on Ihub exclusively for companies who use that filing. Do a board search and see if it is still there. They would probably know more than I do about it.

[ofspring]

The 500 was a short sale why do shorts go down more than buys up and my bid did not regiistwr on the bid at on bids? Thanku

[stockview]

Could it be used to privatize the company or take the assets out of the company and then turn the public company into a shell??? With no benefit to shareholders

[cintrix]

I put in a bid of 40000 shares an hour later it never showed at all on etrade acc why?
Not quite sure what you are asking here? Are you saying that you bought the shares and they aren't showing in your account? Or, are you saying that you put in an offer and you couldn't see your offer on Level II? If it's the latter then it could be because if you put the order in under the current bid they don't always show it. But if you are asking why you don't see the shares in your account then maybe it never filled.



Also how come 500 shares shorts goes down 33%and then a buy at a ask it only goes 10%?
Not clear on that question either. lol If you are asking why a stock could have a bunch of buys at the ask and it doesn't move much but one little sell could downtick it... well, that could be a sign of dilution.

[cintrix]

When a company goes dark they file that form to deregister. Once they do that they no longer are required to file and usually drop to the pink sheets. The reason you see some people get excited over that filing is because sometimes a company files that to become a shell and then there is speculation of a possible reverse merger.

[ofspring]

I put in a bid of 40000 shares an hour later it never showed at all on etrade acc why? Also how come 500 shares shorts goes down 33%and then a buy at a ask it only goes 10%? Thanku

[WillForeall]

Awesome! Thank you

[FollowNoOne]

For pennies, OTCMarkets.com will show this. For stocks that trade on the majors, you can pull up financial sites from Google or Yahoo:

Finance.Yahoo.com or Finance.Google.com (they should show pennies as well but if not, go to OTCMarkets)

Also, your online brokerage provider should show this information as well. I prefer Google as it appears to have a much leaner and cleaner look for me.

[WillForeall]

This to is helpful, thank you! I didn't realize, how can one stay current with the shares being traded from day to day?

[stockview]

You are welcome! You stated you were a new investor. I recommend
you look for actual filed info with the SEC on companies. This gives you real info. The companies with 20 million shares or less outstanding have a better chance of upward movement in share price if it is a growing business.
I wish you the best in your stock trading.

[WillForeall]

Thx for the tip!

[stockview]

ADHC just did a quick look. They have no revenues I mean zero, nearly a one million dollar lose for the year, and nearly one billion shares outstanding. Partnering here means nothing as far as real value. That is my opinion.

[WillForeall]

It was in reference to ADHC, they are partnering up to develop the ability to read medical info from iCloud app. I was trying to figure out if that company could be worth investing into.

[stockview]

Form 15-12G filed with the SEC "termination of common stock". Is anyone know what this means in lay man language? A small public company.

[stockview]

When you say partnering up, is it a merger? Are both Companies public? Is the larger company lending money to smaller company??
Need more detail to give an informed answer.

[WillForeall]

New investor here, what happens to stocks when a bigger company partners up with a smaller company?

[retireearly]

thanks so much! Just sent him a note.
have a super day

[jeffn]

can't say for sure, but i think meatloaf handles that.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profilea.aspx?user=10092

[retireearly]

who do I ask from ihub to find out why news has come out for GEAR on marketwire and etrade but not showing up as news icon?

GEAR news - http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/golfgear-international-inc-announces-additional-stock-reductions-pursues-company-name-1572784.htm

[sunny001]

LOL... that's true...

[cintrix]

rotf u bet it isn't! Not a fair playing field for sure!

[sunny001]

Thanks for reply! That's not fair :(

[cintrix]

retail gets shown by mm's so if you have a large order you are out of luck - if you wanted to sell something and not show your order you would have to put separate orders in under 5k

[sunny001]

Can somebody tell me how to hide amount of shares from L2? when I sell or buy large amount I don't want to be seen. A lot of MMs doing that. They show 5K, but it can be 500 000 instead.

[cintrix]

NO STOCK PICKS ON THIS BOARD!

[cintrix]

If you are referring to a forward split that would be the case - a 3:1 split would give you three shares for every one you own but the price would be one third of the presplit price and the shares outstanding would triple. But if a company is just plain diluting - issuing shares that is not the case. You will still own the same amount of shares you did as you purchased and the price would most probably drop but not all the time depending on other things going on such as news, filings, etc. When shares are increased it does not necessarily mean that the share structure changes as with a forward split.

[spotting84]

If there is a share count going from aprox. 305 million to just over 900 million shares...this would mean that I would have approx. 3x my shares at 1/3 the price...correct?

IS there any other option to the outcome there?

[Matrix999]

At one time I was a mechanic but my wife didn't like me coming home all greasy every night but that does make sense to me. Any car we have bought I have stripped it in my mind (and more)before taking it home.

Before I make my next trade, I will take a trial in II.

Thanks, MM

[cintrix]

Good analogy! lol

[FollowNoOne]

Level 2 has helped me out quite a bit as a relatively new investor / trader. To me, Level 1 is like purchasing a used car and taking it for a test drive. A test drive may not reveal other hidden things that could be going on with the car. However, it may be enough for some car buyers who have a general knowledge of how cars work.

Level 2 is like taking it to a mechanic and having him point out additional things under the the hood of the car, so to speak. He may find something with the engine, cooling system, etc (MM games, dilution) which may influence your decision to purchase.

I would suggest, as Cintrix said, to try a trial. I am on a trial with InvestHub and may continue with it. I like what it shows and it helps me to make better decisions. However, if you are confident that your test drive (Level 1) is enough, there is no need to take it to a mechanic (Level 2).

[Matrix999]

Thanks, that answers my question.

MM

[cintrix]

To be honest with you, I don't think 2-3 trades per month warrants paying for level II. Don't be paying anyone for level I - you get that for free. If someone is offering you level II trial for free the first month, then try and see if it is worth it to you. You may find that you will be trading more often once you have it. If you find it is not worth the money cancel the membership. Another idea is for you to go to:
http://www.otcmarkets.com/home
there are certain companies that pay them to show their level II for free - I don't know the tickers off hand (maybe someone else can throw you a few tickers) but once you find a few you can study it and see if you like it or not.
I get my level II from Etrade - I think they require that you trade 30 per quarter in order to qualify.

[Matrix999]

My long term trading usually amounts to a few times a year but my short term maybe 2-3 times monthly. If I make $200-$300 on a short term trade I'm happy. If all I get is bid/ask from level I, I get that with Scottrade. That's not worth paying for. I thought it would have more than that.

As far as giving my credit card, it's not that I don't trust a reputable company like this one it's just that I don't want to sign up for something that only provides something as you say, bid/ask which I can get anywhere.


Maybe I asked the wrong person. Sorry

MM