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Yep, similar situations where the banking industries seemed to be controlled by greed and like now, an absence of risk control. That's the part that I can't believe. How the heck they gave out so many of these high risk loans without taking the risk factor into consideration is beyond me.
Exactly trix, and why not re-enact Glass Steagall? It's all part and parcel of the accumulated deregulation bag that has been acquired over several administrations, and it's all coming home to roost.
What about the "uptick rule"? Do they plan on bringing it back? Why the heck did they ever do away with it in the first place? I don't really understand that.
SEC Issues New Rules to Protect Investors Against Naked Short Selling Abuses.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2008-204
Washington, D.C., Sept. 17, 2008 — The Securities and Exchange Commission today took several coordinated actions to strengthen investor protections against "naked" short selling. The Commission's actions will apply to the securities of all public companies, including all companies in the financial sector. The actions are effective at 12:01 a.m. ET on Thursday, Sept. 18, 2008.
Additional Materials
* New Short Selling Rules
"These several actions today make it crystal clear that the SEC has zero tolerance for abusive naked short selling," said SEC Chairman Christopher Cox. "The Enforcement Division, the Office of Compliance Inspections and Examinations, and the Division of Trading and Markets will now have these weapons in their arsenal in their continuing battle to stop unlawful manipulation."
In an ordinary short sale, the short seller borrows a stock and sells it, with the understanding that the loan must be repaid by buying the stock in the market (hopefully at a lower price). But in an abusive naked short transaction, the seller doesn't actually borrow the stock, and fails to deliver it to the buyer. For this reason, naked shorting can allow manipulators to force prices down far lower than would be possible in legitimate short-selling conditions.
Today's Commission actions, which are the result of rulemaking under the Administrative Procedure Act, go beyond its previously issued emergency order, which was limited to the securities of financial firms with access to the Federal Reserve's Primary Dealer Credit Facility. Because the agency's exercise of its emergency authority is limited to 30 days, the previous order under Section 12(k)(2) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 expired on Aug. 12, 2008.
The Commission's actions were as follows:
Hard T+3 Close-Out Requirement; Penalties for Violation Include Prohibition of Further Short Sales, Mandatory Pre-Borrow
The Commission adopted, on an interim final basis, a new rule requiring that short sellers and their broker-dealers deliver securities by the close of business on the settlement date (three days after the sale transaction date, or T+3) and imposing penalties for failure to do so.
If a short sale violates this close-out requirement, then any broker-dealer acting on the short seller's behalf will be prohibited from further short sales in the same security unless the shares are not only located but also pre-borrowed. The prohibition on the broker-dealer's activity applies not only to short sales for the particular naked short seller, but to all short sales for any customer.
Although the rule will be effective immediately, the Commission is seeking comment during a period of 30 days on all aspects of the rule. The Commission expects to follow further rulemaking procedures at the expiration of the comment period.
Exception for Options Market Makers from Short Selling Close-Out Provisions in Reg SHO Repealed
The Commission approved a final rule to eliminate the options market maker exception from the close-out requirement of Rule 203(b)(3) in Regulation SHO. This rule change also becomes effective at 12:01 a.m. ET on Thursday, Sept. 18, 2008.
As a result, options market makers will be treated in the same way as all other market participants, and required to abide by the hard T+3 closeout requirements that effectively ban naked short selling.
Rule 10b-21 Short Selling Anti-Fraud Rule
The Commission adopted Rule 10b-21, which expressly targets fraudulent short selling transactions. The new rule covers short sellers who deceive broker-dealers or any other market participants. Specifically, the new rule makes clear that those who lie about their intention or ability to deliver securities in time for settlement are violating the law when they fail to deliver. This rule also becomes effective at 12:01 a.m. ET on Thursday.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2008/2008-204.htm
Hi cin, please also check out the MOASS board as well.
If you'd like to come aboard, let me know! I'd love to have ya :)
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List of stocks that can't be shorted from September 19, 2008 through October 2, 2008:
AAME
ATLANTIC AMERICAN CORP
AANB
ABIGAIL ADAMS NATL BANCORP INC
ABBC
ABINGTON BANCORP INC PA
ABCB
AMERIS BANCORP
ABCW
ANCHOR BANCORP WISCONSIN INC
ABK
AMBAC FINANCIAL GROUP INC
ABNJ
AMERICAN BANCORP OF NJ INC
ABVA
ALLIANCE BANKSHARES CORP
ACAP
AMERICAN PHYSICIANS CAPITAL INC
ACBA
AMERICAN COMMUNITY BNCSHRS INC
ACE
ACE LTD
ACFC
ATLANTIC COAST FED CORP
ACGL
ARCH CAPITAL GROUP LTD NEW
ADVNA
ADVANTA CORP
ADVNB
ADVANTA CORP
AEG
AEGON N V
AEL
AMERICAN EQUITY INVT LIFE HLDG C
AET
AETNA INC NEW
AF
ASTORIA FINANCIAL CORP
AFFM
AFFIRMATIVE INSURANCE HLDGS INC
AFG
AMERICAN FINANCIAL GROUP INC NEW
AFL
A F L A C INC
AGII
ARGO GROUP INTL HLDGS LTD
AGO
ASSURED GUARANTY LTD
AGP
AMERIGROUP CORP
AGX
ARGAN INC
AHD
ATLAS PIPELINE HOLDINGS L P
AHL
ASPEN INSURANCE HOLDINGS LTD
AIB
ALLIED IRISH BANKS PLC
AIG
AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL GROUP
INC
AINV
APOLLO INVESTMENT CORP
AIZ
ASSURANT INC
ALL
ALLSTATE CORP
ALLB
ALLIANCE BANCORP INC PA
ALNC
ALLIANCE FINANCIAL CORP NY
AMCP
AMCOMP INC NEW
AMFI
AMCORE FINANCIAL INC
AMG
AFFILIATED MANAGERS GROUP INC
AMIC
AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE CORP
AMNB
AMERICAN NATIONAL BANKSHARES INC
AMP
AMERIPRISE FINANCIAL INC
AMPH
AMERICAN PHYSICIANS SVC GROUP
AMRB
AMERICAN RIVER BANKSHARES
AMSF
AMERISAFE INC
AMTD
T D AMERITRADE HOLDING CORP
ANAT
AMERICAN NATIONAL INS CO
ANNB
ANNAPOLIS BANCORP INC
AOC
AON CORP
APAB
APPALACHIAN BANCSHARES INC
AROW
ARROW FINANCIAL CORP
ASBI
AMERIANA BANCORP
ASFI
ASTA FUNDING INC
ASFN
ATLANTIC SOUTHERN FINL GROUP INC
ASRV
AMERISERV FINANCIAL INC
ATBC
ATLANTIC BANCGROUP INC
ATLO
AMES NATL CORP
AUBN
AUBURN NATIONAL BANCORP
AWBC
AMERICAN WEST BANCORPORATION
AWH
ALLIED WORLD ASSUR CO HLDGS LTD
AXA
A X A UAP
AXG
ATLAS ACQUISITION HOLDINGS CORP
AXS
AXIS CAPITAL HOLDINGS LTD
BAC
BANK OF AMERICA CORP
BANF
BANCFIRST CORP
BANR
BANNER CORP
BARI
BANCORP RHODE ISLAND INC
BAYN
BAY NATIONAL CORP
BBNK
BRIDGE CAPITAL HOLDINGS
BBT
B B & T CORP
BBX
BANKATLANTIC BANCORP INC
BCA
CORPBANCA
BCAR
BANK OF THE CAROLINAS CORP
BCBP
B C B BANCORP INC
BCP
BROOKE CAPITAL CORP
BCS
BARCLAYS PLC
BCSB
B C S B BANCORP INC
BDGE
BRIDGE BANCORP INC
BEN
FRANKLIN RESOURCES INC
BERK
BERKSHIRE BANCORP INC DEL
BFF
B F C FINANCIAL CORP
BFIN
BANKFINACIAL CORP
BFNB
BEACH FIRST NATL BANCSHARES INC
BHB
BAR HARBOR BANKSHARES
BHBC
BEVERLY HILLS BANCORP INC
BHLB
BERKSHIRE HILLS BANCORP INC
BK
BANK OF NEW YORK MELLON CORP
BKBK
BRITTON & KOONTZ CAPITAL CORP
BKMU
BANK MUTUAL CORP NEW
BKOR
OAK RIDGE FINANCIAL SERVICES INC
BKSC
BANK SOUTH CAROLINA CORP
BKUNA
BANKUNITED FINANCIAL CORP
BLX
BANCO LATINOAMERICANO DE EXP SA
BMRC
BANK OF MARIN BANCORP
BMTC
BRYN MAWR BANK CORP
BNCL
BENEFICIAL MUTUAL BANCORP INC
BNCN
B N C BANCORP
BNS
BANK OF NOVA SCOTIA
BNV
BEVERLY NATIONAL CORP
BOCH
BANK OF COMMERCE HOLDINGS
BOFI
B OF I HOLDING INC
BOFL
BANK OF FLORIDA CORP NAPLES
BOH
BANK OF HAWAII CORP
BOKF
B O K FINANCIAL CORP
BOMK
BANK MCKENNEY VA
BOVA
BANK OF VIRGINIA
BPFH
BOSTON PRIVATE FINL HLDS INC
BPSG
BROADPOINT SECURITIES GROUP INC
BRK
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC DEL
BRK
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC DEL
BRKL
BROOKLINE BANCORP INC
BSRR
SIERRA BANCORP
BTFG
BANCTRUST FINANCIAL GROUP INC
BUSE
FIRST BUSEY CORP
BWINA
BALDWIN & LYONS INC
BWINB
BALDWIN & LYONS INC
BX
BLACKSTONE GROUP L P
BXS
BANCORPSOUTH INC
BYFC
BROADWAY FINANCIAL CORP DEL
C
CITIGROUP INC
CAC
CAMDEN NATIONAL CORP
CACB
CASCADE BANCORP
CADE
CADENCE FINANCIAL CORP
CAFI
CAMCO FINANCIAL CORP
CAPB
CAPITALSOUTH BANCORP
CAPE
CAPE FEAR BANK CORP
CART
CAROLINA TRUST BANK
CARV
CARVER BANCORP INC
CASB
CASCADE FINANCIAL CORP
CASH
META FINANCIAL GROUP INC
CATY
CATHAY GENERAL BANCORP
CB
CHUBB CORP
CBAN
COLONY BANKCORP INC
CBBO
COLUMBIA BANCORP ORE
CBC
CAPITOL BANCORP LTD
CBIN
COMMUNITY BANK SHRS INDIANA INC
CBKN
CAPITAL BANK CORP NEW
CBNK
CHICOPEE BANCORP INC
CBON
COMMUNITY BANCORP
CBU
COMMUNITY BANK SYSTEM INC
CCBD
COMMUNITY CENTRAL BANK CORP
CCBG
CAPITAL CITY BANK GROUP
CCBP
COMM BANCORP INC
CCFH
C C F HOLDING COMPANY
CCNE
C N B FINANCIAL CORP PA
CCOW
CAPITAL CORP OF THE WEST
CEBK
CENTRAL BANCORP INC
CFBK
CENTRAL FEDERAL CORP
CFFC
COMMUNITY FINANCIAL CORP
CFFI
C & F FINANCIAL CORP
CFFN
CAPITOL FEDERAL FINANCIAL
CFNL
CARDINAL FINANCIAL CORP
CFR
CULLEN FROST BANKERS INC
CHCO
CITY HOLDING CO
CHEV
CHEVIOT FINANCIAL CORP
CHFC
CHEMICAL FINANCIAL CORP
CI
C I G N A CORP
CIA
CITIZENS INC
CINF
CINCINNATI FINANCIAL CORP
CITZ
C F S BANCORP INC
CIZN
CITIZENS HOLDING CO
CJBK
CENTRAL JERSEY BANCORP
CLBH
CAROLINA BANK HOLDINGS INC
CLFC
CENTER FINANCIAL CORP
CLMS
CALAMOS ASSET MANAGEMENT INC
CMA
COMERICA INC
CME
C M E GROUP INC
CMFB
COMMERCEFIRST BANCORP INC
CMGI
C M G I INC
CMSB
C M S BANCORP INC
CNA
C N A FINANCIAL CORP
CNAF
COMMERCIAL NATIONAL FINL CORP
CNB
COLONIAL BANCGROUP INC
CNBC
CENTER BANCORP INC
CNBKA
CENTURY BANCORP INC
CNC
CENTENE CORP DEL
CNLA
COMMUNITY NATL BANK LAKEWAY AREA
CNO
CONSECO INC
CNS
COHEN & STEERS INC
COBH
PENNSYLVANIA COMMERCE BANCORP IN
COBZ
COBIZ FINANCIAL INC
COLB
COLUMBIA BANKING SYSTEM INC
COOP
COOPERATIVE BANCSHARES INC
CORS
CORUS BANKSHARES INC
COWN
COWEN GROUP INC
CPBC
COMMUNITY PARTNERS BANCORP
CPBK
COMMUNITY CAPITAL CORP
CPF
CENTRAL PACIFIC FINANCIAL CORP
CPHL
CASTLEPOINT HOLDINGS LTD
CRBC
CITIZENS REPUBLIC BANCORP INC
CRFN
CRESCENT FINANCIAL CORP
CRMH
C R M HOLDINGS LTD
CRRB
CARROLLTON BANCORP
CRVL
CORVEL CORP
CSBC
CITIZENS SOUTH BANKING CORP DEL
CSBK
CLIFTON SAVINGS BANCORP INC
CSFL
CENTERSTATE BANKS OF FLORIDA INC
CSHB
COMMUNITY SHORES BANK CORP
CSNT
CRESCENT BANKING CO
CTBC
CONNECTICUT BANK & TRUST CO
CTBI
COMMUNITY TRUST BANCORP INC
CTBK
CITYBANK LYNNWOOD WASHINGTON
CTZN
CITIZENS FIRST BANCORP INC
CVBF
C V B FINANCIAL CORP
CVBK
CENTRAL VIRGINIA BANKSHARES INC
CVCY
CENTRAL VALLEY COMM BANCORP
CVH
COVENTRY HEALTH CARE INC
CVLL
COMMUNITY VALLEY BANCORP
CVLY
CODORUS VALLEY BANCORP INC
CWBC
COMMUNITY WEST BANCSHARES
CWBS
COMMONWEALTH BANKSHARES INC
CWLZ
COWLITZ BANCORPORATION
CZFC
CITIZENS FIRST CORP
CZWI
CITIZENS CMNTY BANCORP INC MD
DB
DEUTSCHE BANK AG
DCOM
DIME COMMUNITY BANCSHARES
DEAR
DEARBORN BANCORP INC
DFG
DELPHI FINANCIAL GROUP INC
DGICA
DONEGAL GROUP INC
DGICB
DONEGAL GROUP INC
DHIL
DIAMOND HILL INVESTMENT GRP INC
DLLR
DOLLAR FINANCIAL CORP
DR
DARWIN PROFESSIONAL UNDERWRITERS
DSL
DOWNEY FINANCIAL CORP
DUF
DUFF & PHELPS CORP NEW
EBSB
MERIDIAN INTERSTATE BANCORP INC
EBTX
ENCORE BANCSHRES INC
ECBE
E C B BANCORP INC
EGBN
EAGLE BANCORP INC
EIHI
EASTERN INSURANCE HOLDINGS INC
EII
ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE ACQUI CORP
EMCI
E M C INSURANCE GROUP INC
EMITF
ELBIT IMAGING LTD
ENH
ENDURANCE SPECIALTY HOLDINGS LTD
ESBF
E S B FINANCIAL CORP
ESBK
ELMIRA SAVINGS BANK FSB NY
ESGR
ENSTAR GROUP LTD
ETFC
E TRADE FINANCIAL CORP
EV
EATON VANCE CORP
EVBN
EVANS BANCORP INC
EVBS
EASTERN VIRGINIA BANKSHARES INC
EVR
EVERCORE PARTNERS INC
EWBC
EAST WEST BANCORP INC
FABK
FIRST ADVANTAGE BANCORP
FAC
FIRST ACCEPTANCE CORP
FAF
FIRST AMERICAN CORP CALIF
FBC
FLAGSTAR BANCORP INC
FBCM
F B R CAPITAL MARKETS CORP
FBIZ
FIRST BUSINESS FINL SVCS INC
FBMI
FIRSTBANK CORP
FBMS
FIRST BANCSHARES INC MS
FBNC
FIRST BANCORP NC
FBP
FIRST BANCORP P R
FBSI
FIRST BANCSHARES INC MO
FBSS
FAUQUIER BANKSHARES INC
FBTC
FIRST BANCTRUST
FCAL
FIRST CALIFORNIA FINL GROUP INC
FCAP
FIRST CAPITAL INC
FCBC
FIRST COMMUNITY BANCSHARES INC
FCCO
FIRST COMMUNITY CORP SC
FCCY
1ST CONSTITUTION BANCORP
FCFL
FIRST COMMUNITY BANK CORP AMER
FCNCA
FIRST CITIZENS BANCSHARES INC NC
FCVA
FIRST CAPITAL BANCORP INC VA
FCZA
FIRST CITIZENS BANC CORP
FDEF
FIRST DEFIANCE FINANCIAL CORP
FDT
FEDERAL TRUST CORP
FED
FIRSTFED FINANCIAL CORP
FFBC
FIRST FINANCIAL BANCORP OHIO
FFBH
FIRST FEDERAL BANCSHARES ARK INC
FFCH
FIRST FINANCIAL HOLDINGS INC
FFCO
FEDFIRST FINANCIAL CORP
FFDF
F F D FINANCIAL CORP
FFFD
NORTH CENTRAL BANCSHARES INC
FFG
F B L FINANCIAL GROUP INC
FFH
FAIRFAX FINL HOLDINGS LTD
FFHS
FIRST FRANKLIN CORP
FFIC
FLUSHING FINANCIAL CORP
FFIN
FIRST FINANCIAL BANKSHARES INC
FFKT
FARMERS CAPITAL BANK CORP
FFKY
FIRST FINANCIAL SERVICE CORP
FFNM
FIRST FED NORTHN MI BANCORP INC
FFNW
FIRST FINANCIAL NORTHWEST INC
FFSX
FIRST FEDERAL BANKSHARES INC DEL
FHN
FIRST HORIZON NATIONAL CORP
FIFG
1ST INDEPENDENCE FNL GROUP INC
FIG
FORTRESS INVESTMENT GROUP L L C
FII
FEDERATED INVESTORS INC PA
FISI
FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS INC
FKFS
FIRST KEYSTONE FINANCIAL INC
FLIC
FIRST LONG ISLAND CORP
FMAR
FIRST MARINER BANCORP
FMBI
FIRST MIDWEST BANCORP DE
FMER
FIRSTMERIT CORP
FMFC
FIRST M & F CORP
FNB
F N B CORP PA
FNBN
F N B UNITED CORP
FNFG
FIRST NIAGARA FINL GROUP INC NEW
FNLC
FIRST BANCORP INC ME
FNM
FEDERAL NATIONAL MORTGAGE ASSN
FNSC
FIRST NATIONAL BANCSHARES INC SC
FPBI
F P B BANCORP INC
FPBN
1ST PACIFIC BANCORP CA
FPFC
FIRST PLACE FINANCIAL CORP NM
FPIC
F P I C INSURANCE GROUP INC
FPTB
FIRST PACTRUST BANCORP INC
FRBK
REPUBLIC FIRST BANCORP INC
FRE
FEDERAL HOME LOAN MORTGAGE CORP
FRGB
FIRST REGIONAL BANCORP
FRME
FIRST MERCHANTS CORP
FSBI
FIDELITY BANCORP INC
FSBK
FIRST SOUTH BANCORP INC
FSGI
FIRST SECURITY GROUP INC
FSNM
FIRST STATE BANCORPORATION
FTBK
FRONTIER FINANCIAL CORP
FULT
FULTON FINANCIAL CORP PA
FUNC
FIRST UNITED CORP
FWV
FIRST WEST VIRGINIA BANCORP INC
FXCB
FOX CHASE BANCORP INC
GABC
GERMAN AMERICAN BANCORP INC
GAN
GAINSCO INC
GBCI
GLACIER BANCORP INC NEW
GBH
GREEN BUILDERS INC
GBL
GAMCO INVESTORS INC
GBNK
GUARANTY BANCORP
GBTS
GATEWAY FINANCIAL HLDGS INC
GCA
GLOBAL CASH ACCESS HOLDINGS INC
GFED
GUARANTY FEDERAL BANCSHARES INC
GFIG
G F I GROUP INC
GFLB
GREAT FLORIDA BANK
GGAL
GRUPO FINANCIERO GALICIA S A
GHL
GREENHILL & CO INC
GIW
WILBER CORP
GLBZ
GLEN BURNIE BANCORP
GLRE
GREENLIGHT CAPITAL RE LTD
GNW
GENWORTH FINANCIAL INC
GOV
GOUVERNEUR BANCORP INC
GRAN
BANK GRANITE CORP
GRNB
GREEN BANKSHARES INC
GROW
U S GLOBAL INVESTORS INC
GS
GOLDMAN SACHS GROUP INC
GSBC
GREAT SOUTHERN BANCORP INC
GSLA
G S FINANCIAL CORP
GTS
TRIPLE S MANAGEMENT CORP
HABC
HABERSHAM BANCORP INC
HAFC
HANMI FINANCIAL CORP
HALL
HALLMARK FINANCIAL SERVICES INC
HARL
HARLEYSVILLE SAVINGS FINAN CORP
HAXS
HEALTHAXIS INC
HBAN
HUNTINGTON BANCSHARES INC
HBHC
HANCOCK HOLDING CO
HBNK
HAMPDEN BANCORP INC
HBOS
HERITAGE FINANCIAL GROUP
HCBK
HUDSON CITY BANCORP INC
HCC
H C C INSURANCE HOLDINGS INC
HEOP
HERITAGE OAKS BANCORP
HFBC
HOPFED BANCORP INC
HFFC
H F FINANCIAL CORP
HFWA
HERITAGE FINANCIAL CORP WA
HGIC
HARLEYSVILLE GROUP INC
HIFS
HINGHAM INSTITUTION FOR SVGS MA
HMN
HORACE MANN EDUCATORS CORP NEW
HMNF
H M N FINANCIAL INC
HMPR
HAMPTON ROADS BANKSHARES INC
HNBC
HARLEYSVILLE NATIONAL CORP PA
HNT
HEALTH NET INC
HOMB
HOME BANCSHARES INC
HOME
HOME FEDERAL BANCORP INC MD
HRZB
HORIZON FINANCIAL CORP WASH
HS
HEALTHSPRING INC
HTBK
HERITAGE COMMERCE CORP
HTH
HILLTOP HOLDINGS INC
HTLF
HEARTLAND FINANCIAL USA INC
HUM
HUMANA INC
HWBK
HAWTHORN BANCSHARES INC
HWFG
HARRINGTON WEST FINANCIAL GRP IN
IAAC
INTERNATIONAL ASSETS HLDG CORP
IBCA
INTERVEST BANCSHARES CORP
IBCP
INDEPENDENT BANK CORP MICH
IBKC
IBERIABANK CORP
IBKR
INTERACTIVE BROKERS GROUP INC
IBNK
INTEGRA BANK CORP
IBOC
INTERNATIONAL BANCSHARES CORP
ICE
INTERCONTINENTALEXCHANGE INC
ICH
INVESTORS CAPITAL HOLDINGS LTD
IFC
IRWIN FINANCIAL CORP
IFSB
INDEPENDENCE FEDERAL SAVINGS BK
IHC
INDEPENDENCE HOLDING CO NEW
IMP
IMPERIAL CAPITAL BANCORP INC
INCB
INDIANA COMMUNITY BANCORP
INDB
INDEPENDENT BANK CORP MA
ING
I N G GROEP N V
IPCC
INFINITY PROPERTY & CASUALTY COR
IPCR
I P C HOLDINGS LTD
IRE
IRELAND BANK
ITC
I T C HOLDINGS CORP
ITG
INVESTMENT TECHNOLOGY GP INC
NEW
ITIC
INVESTORS TITLE CO
JAXB
JACKSONVILLE BANCORP INC FL
JEF
JEFFERIES GROUP INC NEW
JFBC
JEFFERSONVILLE BANCORP
JFBI
JEFFERSON BANCSHARES INC TENN
JLI
JESUP & LAMONT INC
JMP
J M P GROUP INC
JNS
JANUS CAP GROUP INC
JPM
JPMORGAN CHASE & CO
JXSB
JACKSONVILLE BANCORP INC
KCLI
KANSAS CITY LIFE INS CO
KENT
KENT FINANCIAL SERVICES INC
KEY
KEYCORP NEW
KFED
K FED BANCORP
KFFB
KENTUCKY FIRST FEDERAL BANCORP
KFS
KINGSWAY FINANCIAL SERVICES INC
KRNY
KEARNY FINANCIAL CORP
L
LOEWS CORP
LAB
LABRANCHE & CO INC
LABC
LOUISIANA BANCORP INC
LARK
LANDMARK BANCORP INC
LAZ
LAZARD LTD
LBBB
LIBERTY BELL BK CHERRY HILL NJ
LBCP
LIBERTY BANCORP INC MO
LEGC
LEGACY BANCORP INC
LEH
LEHMAN BROTHERS HOLDINGS INC
LFC
CHINA LIFE INSURANCE CO LTD
LION
FIDELITY SOUTHERN CORP NEW
LKFN
LAKELAND FINANCIAL CORP
LNC
LINCOLN NATIONAL CORP IN
LNCB
LINCOLN BANCORP IND
LPSB
LAPORTE BANCORP INC
LSBI
L S B FINANCIAL CORP
LSBK
LAKE SHORE BANCORP INC
LSBX
L S B CORP
LTS
LADENBURG THALMANN FIN SVCS INC
LUK
LEUCADIA NATIONAL CORP
LYG
LLOYDS TSB GROUP PLC
MAIN
MAIN STREET CAPITAL CORP
MASB
MASSBANK CORP
MBFI
M B FINANCIAL INC NEW
MBHI
MIDWEST BANC HOLDINGS INC
MBI
M B I A INC
MBP
MID PENN BANCORP INC
MBR
MERCANTILE BANCORP INC
MBRG
MIDDLEBURG FINANCIAL CORP
MBTF
M B T FINANCIAL CORP
MBVA
MILLENNIUM BANKSHARES CORP
MBVT
MERCHANTS BANCSHARES INC
MBWM
MERCANTILE BANK CORP
MCBF
MONARCH COMMUNITY BANCORP INC
MCBI
METROCORP BANCSHARES INC
MCGC
M C G CAPITAL CORP
MCY
MERCURY GENERAL CORP NEW
MER
MERRILL LYNCH & CO INC
MERR
MERRIMAN CURHAN FORD GROUP INC
MF
M F GLOBAL LTD
MFC
MANULIFE FINANCIAL CORP
MFLR
MAYFLOWER BANCORP INC
MFNC
MACKINAC FINANCIAL CORP
MFSF
MUTUALFIRST FINL INC
MGYR
MAGYAR BANCORP INC
MHLD
MAIDEN HOLDNGS LTD
MI
MARSHALL & ILSLEY CORP NEW
MIG
MEADOWBROOK INSURANCE GROUP INC
MIGP
MERCER INSURANCE GROUP INC
MKL
MARKEL CORP
MKTX
MARKETAXESS HLDGS INC
MNRK
MONARCH FINANCIAL HOLDINGS INC
MOFG
MIDWESTONE FINANCIAL GRP INC NEW
MOH
MOLINA HEALTHCARE INC
MORN
MORNINGSTAR INC
MRH
MONTPELIER RES HOLDINGS LTD
MROE
MONROE BANCORP
MS
MORGAN STANLEY DEAN WITTER & CO
MSBF
M S B FINANCIAL CORP
MSFG
MAINSOURCE FINANCIAL GROUP INC
MSL
MIDSOUTH BANCORP INC
MTG
M G I C INVESTMENT CORP WIS
MTU
MITSUBISHI UFJ FINANCIAL GP INC
MXGL
MAX CAPITAL GROUP LTD
NAHC
NATIONAL ATLANTIC HOLDINGS CORP
NAL
NEWALLIANCE BANCSHARES INC
NARA
NARA BANCORP INC
NATL
NATIONAL INTERSTATE CORP
NAVG
NAVIGATORS GROUP INC
NBBC
NEWBRIDGE BANCORP
NBN
NORTHEAST BANCORP
NBTB
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Hi iwanta-
Welcome!
ihub is an excellent resource for learning, that's a definite!
I also replied to you on the pincher board as well.
One thing you may want to consider in the future, is to "reply" to a post so your comment doesn't get lost in the crowd again :(
Welcome and look forward to seeing you in the future!
Thanks for this board. It is a great help to someone, like myself, who wants to learn this.
Cool thanks man, I thought it was too good to be true. Im very new to this, and am looking to learn a lot!
dyagnyl in that example you won't get profits, many times these "lotto plays" don't pay off.. If the stock was .0001 x .0002 and you bought at .0002, you can hope it uptics to .0002 x .0003 and put a sell in at .0003(the ask)... there is a chance it will sell... Of course the stock you buy in at .0002 could run much higher ie: FFGO ran from .0001 to .0009
what is the reason for the bid/ask gap? ... That all depends, in many cases its demand.. You may have a bunch of traders bidding to buy at .0001 and traders who own it already trying to sell at .0003 with neither buyers or sellers at .0002... If a trader decides to put a buy in at .0002, most of the times you will see the bid uptic to .0002 and thus tightening the bid/ask..
On penny stocks how do you make money on them, with the bid/ask difference? For example if FFGO .002, the Bid is .001, and the ask is .003. I buy the (ask) stock at .003, and wait for the stock price to raise, the stock raised but I can only sell the bid, which is also .003 by then. Where do you get the profit, and what is the reason for the bid/ask gap?
Alphatrade.com submitted an application under Rule 24b-2 requesting
confidential treatment for information it excluded from the Exhibit to a Form 8-K/A filed
on December 5, 2006.
Based on representations by Alphatrade.com. that this information qualifies as
confidential commercial or financial information under the Freedom of Information Act,
5 U.S.C. 552(b)(4), the Division of Corporation Finance has determined not to publicly
disclose it. Accordingly, excluded information from the following exhibit will not be
released to the public for the time period specified:
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For the Commission, by the Division of Corporation Finance, pursuant to
delegated authority:
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Heres some info, you can always call the company and ask to see why..
http://www.law.uc.edu/CCL/34ActRls/rule24b-2.html
That is some new filing:
Confidential Treatment Orders
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Regarding the one u r looking at:
confidential treatment for information it excluded from the Exhibit to a Form 8-K/A filed
on December 5, 2006.
Based on representations by Alphatrade.com. that this information qualifies as
confidential commercial or financial information under the Freedom of Information Act,
5 U.S.C. 552(b)(4), the Division of Corporation Finance has determined not to publicly
disclose it. Accordingly, excluded information from the following exhibit will not be
released to the public for the time period specified:
Exhibit 10.1 through December 31, 2012
anyone know what ct orders are usually used for? tia
RE: How do you tell how much "POP" ...
Most traders look for resistance points after a stock starts to take of. Some sell near or at these resistance points. I personally take profits on the way up and play it by ear, all runs are different, there are so many things that play a roll in a stock run and how high it may go. Did it have news? Was the news solid? Does the stock have a history of pop and drop on news? any known dilution? Is there a stock group on it that's know for pushing stocks up or just a few known P&D'ers on it? Is the share structure low/high? These are just a few quick questions to ask yourself and DD.
RE: I want to learn how to get into a play on the bottom and ride it up.... You can use many chart indicators to show if a stock is near or at bottom, but just remember, they're just indicators and the stock can still drop further even though these indicators may suggest the chart is bottomed out.
As far as the ride up goes, again, I take profits on the way up and play it by ear. Its an easier ride up instead of holding to long, getting greedy and trying to sell on the way down if bad news comes out or a stock group pulls out fast and/or the momentum just dries up and there is mass sell off.
JMO of course, hope this helps.
I have a question for the board....How do you tell how much "POP" a stock will have. I know that when the bollies close tight the stock will pop. I also understand (I think) how to read the MACD, RSI, ADX and the MAs for buy signals but I seem to pick stocks that don't have much upward movement. They move just not enough. I try not to invest in anything with less than a 250000 average volume. I want to learn how to get into a play on the bottom and ride it up (don't we all). Any help would be appreciated.
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Hi Irish/Cintrix
I was just thinking about maybe a section that provides new traders access to the BEST non pumping boards on ihub to learn by viewing experienced traders in areas of fundamentals, Technical Analysis, Forex, etc
any thoughts?
Your welcome! ;)
Thanks Bull!!!!
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hey there miss
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How do you obtain a prodigy account?
Address website? Can't seem to find it anywhere on the web
TIA
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Hi cintrix!
Hey Tina!!! :>)
Thank you Jimmy
I'm truly HONORED to assist you and cintrix here :)
Ihub needs board such as this one that help new traders with questions and to provide insights on the markets.
Thanks!
I am not a chartist, but I think it depends on the charting service you are using. Some use white/black, some use green/red. Usually, white and green indicate bullish and red and black bearish.
candlestick charts Question: i get that what it means for hollow vs filled candlesticks. Why are some filled green and some filled red? i have been learning from places that show black and white and that's easy to understand. buy most charts i see also have red and green. what is the significance? tyia.
lol Well some people don't have a "real job" like you and depend on their trading for income!
We're supposed to be making money at this?! Dang!
No, I just go with the flow. I never set sell orders either, I go with the flow, my mind changes consistently.. Not saying its right, thats just the way I roll
Do you stop trading after you make a certain amount of money for the day? I do! This way I lock in profits and don't give them back somewhere else! lol
I did 25 trades today, not a long term trader, mostly day trading. Thats just me though ..
I made six trades today, but that is probably nothing compared to some other traders. Everyone is different.
how many plays a day do you guys usually make say for a day trade? Long term?
For pink sheet stocks I believe different chart settings are required especially because of the short term plays and they are a lot more liquid. Am I wrong? What are typical indicators used for pinkies? What are their settings? Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot for the help. I've got some research to do.
Well, if you are playing the pennies for news and filings you can use this:
http://www.stockhouse.com/News/News.aspx?&e=3&y=8/5/2008&b=0&z=25&f=1&l=1&r=0
for news
This one has a bunch of things but it is in delayed:
http://www.microcapmarkets.com/data_main_nav.jsp?market=OTCBB
I get my news instantly from my broker along with other perks for being an active trader.
This is good for filings:
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/index.jsp
http://www.atedgar.com/
There are loads of sources both free and paid-for that you can use.
Personally, I am not a fan of staying in a penny for any long amount of time. Better off trading them intra day or holding them a day. That's my opinion. I have formed that opinion from experience of making the mistake of holding too long.
Obviously I am a newbie....to pinks anyway. I've played with the larger markets a little bit over the past year but I just don't have the money to invest in those to where it makes enough of a difference to profit. As far as my type of trading I think I would fall into the swing trading category. I am willing to stay in as needed. I don't think I qualify as a "chart reader" but I do know enough to understand charts. I think playing the filings and news is where I fit in.
You know, that is an extremely broad question. There are so many ways depending on the type of trading you do. Are you trading, or investing? I am a bounce player so I watch the top % losers for the day. I also like to watch filings so I watch for 8k releases. Many here are technical traders and they watch charts. Some people are investors who keep watch of earnings plays or fundamentals and that type of info is all available at sites like Yahoo. Are you talking penny stocks or blue chip stocks or something in between? There are sources for all these they of plays. You have to know what type you are interested in first.
How do find your stocks? Check the one of many stock trading boards on the hub for starters. Also, equityfeed has software that scans the markets for movers, you can set the parameters to fit your needs ie: search pinks/otcbb trading between .001 and .05 with at least a 10% gain etc etc. They also have a news feed you can watch for potential trades.
Initially, how does one run across a company they are interested in? Same as above
Do you subscribe to an organization that gives you the heads up or do you run across boards here and find some you want to do your DD on? Same as above
How do you find the early companies? Same as above
Thanks IRISHBULL: I will try Admin first even though the problem is in support, the help tabs should have migrated with the site upgrade too, IMO.
How do find your stocks? Initially, how does one run across a company they are interested in? Do you subscribe to an organization that gives you the heads up or do you run across boards here and find some you want to do your DD on? How do you find the early companies? Thanks in advance.
thanks, I wiil
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