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Hi J.
I finally got a response from ComputerShare Services as seen below. It seems the only option is to contact Frank (Hellix) directly. Based on past events it seems unlikely reaching out to him would bear any fruit, if he can even be reached in the first place. If anyone wants to give it a try please let us know how it went. Regards -Lamont
Dear Mr. Monte,
Thank you for your inquiry. Please be advised that Computershare is no longer the transfer agent for HELLIX VENTURES INC. We suggest that you contact the issuer directly.
Yours Sincerely,
Customer Communications
Computershare Investor Services
_____________________________________
Thanks pal. I appreciate it. :)
Hi J, I sent the former account manager an email and it came back as un-deliverable. I went to the ComputerShare Services website and looked around. It is a big site because they service many countries. I found a contact link buried way down at the bottom of one of the pages which allows you to make an inquiry. I filled it out. Here is the link. https://www-us.computershare.com/Investor/#Contact Under the category field select "transfer inquiry" and fill out the rest of the form. It allows you to leave the account field blank which doesn't apply to us anyway. Regards, -Lamont
Hey J. You might want to reconsider contacting the transfer agent concerning stock conversion to cert form. I heard Bill Holter say on an interview tonight that you can have your broker send your shares to the transfer agent then converted to cert form for very cheap. I don't know what the law is concerning a dormant company like Hellix and stock transfers and conversions. It seems we should have some type of recourse under the law but I don't have any idea how to find out. Best wishes -Lamont
Your very welcome J. She was friendly and informed me Hellix was no longer a client. She didn't explain why because I assume clients come and go all the time. Canadian companies trade on the TSX in Toronto which has a trading agreement with our US exchanges. Transfer agents do convert stock but can't do it if the company isn't a client anymore. Based on what I learned from self study I called my brokerage and asked if they could do it. The agent didn't know at the time but got back to me and said yes. I immediately requested a conversion to certificate form. Calling the former transfer agent would most likely produce the same result I got. You can still call out of curiosity to see what kind of response you might get. I supplied you with the contact info to give you some insight on how things work behind the scenes and a little introduction on transfer agents. The DTCC will be disbanded or revamped at some point in the future when the public finds out who they are and what they've been up to for past 25 years. -Lamont
I appreciate it. Thanks Lamont. At this point, iyo, do you think I should I pursue it or no?
Hi J,
All publicly traded companies use transfer agents to maintain records of shareholder accounts and many other administrative matters. Computershare Investor Services in Toronto used to handle Hellix. You could try contacting the General Manager to see what they say. Below is the last known info I have on them from 10 years ago. -Lamont
Computershare Investor Services
1-800-564-6253
Stacie Moore
General Manager (Calgary)
Phone : 403 267 6508
Email : stacie.moore@computershare.com
Dang! So I can’t do it anymore? I put it off for so long, like a fool. Only recently it came into my thoughts. So I’m SOL, as they say? Just hoping nothing magically disappears or gets screwed up, in the event of potential (brokerage) bankruptcies, power failure, etc. And that my shares will always be available. Lol
Happy New Year J !! 😇 Yes converting stocks to certificate form has always been a very good idea. The DTCC (Depository Trust Cede Corporation) is now being called the Depository Trust and Clearing Corporation. They are now cleverly calling it the "Clearing Corporation" to manage the public's perception and hide what it actually does. "Cede" is a term which means you've given your stocks to them in hopes they will do the right thing down the road. I've been studying them for years. Everybody's stock has been ceded to them. It's all written into law. Maybe .01% of investors know what goes on concerning them. The DTCC retains registered ownership while we peasant investors have the designation of beneficiary of the instruments. We only benefit if they keep proper records of all stock transactions which they don't. It is estimated that only 25% of the hundreds of millions of transactions that take place daily are properly cleared with an audit trail to the right owners. In the event ownership cant be traced we are out of luck because we ceded our stocks to them in street name. This corrupt practice is what makes naked shorting so easy for the criminals that rig the markets to their huge benefit. Brenner would not have been able to do what he did if the DTCC weren't in business. 10 years ago I learned what the DTCC was really about. I converted all my Hellix stock to certificate form in my name with serial numbers. My brokerage did it for a very reasonable price. Moving forward as I acquired more and more Hellix the brokerage wanted more and more money. My last conversion cost me a whopping $ 500 and I had to twist arms to get them to do it. As time progressed more and more companies were driven into penny stock status (Hellix) because of criminal naked shorting. ALL the brokerages decided to block conversion of penny stocks into cert form. I know because I called them all in an attempt get all my remaining shares out of the DTCC hands. As a result I was only able to get around 5% converted into cert form. Here's a link to an excellent 2008 article about the DTCC if anyone wants to read it. http://tinyurl.com/ywj9ahaz -Lamont
HAPPY NEW YEAR all. On a side note…One thing I used to ponder, but haven’t in years until now is, if should’ve received an official stock certificate? Look at how many years this company dormant/dead! Wouldn’t it have been good to get for safekeeping? Could exchanges go down? Could our shares disappear? Would have no proof of ownership of shares. Where to get that certificate from, brokerage or Hellix company directly? It’s too late now I think, anyway. Does it even matter at all? Just used to think of this stuff, is all. Thinking out loud. :)
My pleasure Tycoon7. Your prayers will be answered. Of this I'm absolutely certain. If I wasn't I would have left this board years ago. Happy New Year bud !!
-Lamont
Thanks for all your insight. I need to pray more for Hellix. I am sitting on a big loss right now.
I forgot to mention a VERY important point. Hellix is a public business entity with shareholders. It's not a private mom and pop deal where you can hand the business over to a son or daughter upon death. There are no shareholders to consider in a private business entity. The focus has been on Frank for so long the perception might be he owns Hellix. He is a major shareholder with a controlling seat on the board of directors. That doesn't make him the "owner". Frank's son has zero say in any business decisions at Hellix. He doesn't sit on the board nor am I aware he owns any significant shares. Frank has no legal right to appoint him to any position on the board. -Lamont
Hi J. I've never been clear on what his son's involvement in the company was / is. Well over 7 years ago I sent an inquiry to Frank asking for an update on the company. To my shock his son responded with an offer to get in on some business venture he was involved with in Vegas. I was tempted to respond with "I'm already out a huge pile of cash and you want me to give you a big bite out my ass too ?" Taking into account his vague non-answer to my Hellix question and a sales pitch for some startup venture I decided not to respond back. LOL -Lamont
Do you know what happened to his son? Supposed to be his predecessor! He give up? I wonder if he’s involved, or even cares for Hellix anymore?
Hi J. I doubt he would speak to anyone. The last time anyone on this thread spoke to him he got angry, blamed us for not helping him and was told not to call again. That's a huge insult to everyone that invested. He's way up in age and obviously not thinking right. My hope is for an entity to buy Hellix outright and get the company out from under current management. All that aside Frank should be commended for finding the property, understanding its potential and making a move in the right direction. I wish him the very best. -Lamont
Is there anyway for anyone here to attempt to communicate with Frank again? See if he responds and try to pick his brain and see if he divulges ANY news, updates, possible future plans??
You mean all 4 of us ? 😅 Gold could go to $100,000 an ounce and that wouldn't change anything as far as trading is concerned. First Hellix would need to update their SEC records and start paying the fees again. They stopped doing so which is why the CE was issued in the first place. Getting current with the SEC would lead to the removal of the CE and trading could resume on the Toronto exchange (TSX) and in the US. It's imperative they resolve the issue(s) that led to the lawsuits in the first place. As the price of gold moves higher the motivation to ramp back up will get stronger. A senior miner wanting to buy Hellix could assist them or ask they clear it up before making an offer. For all we know they could already have a plan in place or be negotiating with outside interests. -Lamont
How high does the community think Gold has to go to before Hellix starts trading again.
Bob was a rare breed no doubt. I wouldn't be surprised one bit to learn "they" had something to do with his illness / passing. He wasn't afraid to shine light into the darkness and was a fly in the ointment for those that had a lot to hide. He ran his race well. -Lamont
Ever hear what happened to his “caretaker” (aka POS covert handler that most likely helped dispense of Bob)? You know, Bob always said he was asked to be recruited by ‘them’. Supposed to be one of ‘them’. His downfall was that he said NO to ‘them’. Bob was a genuine Godserving, Godfearing being. EXTREMELY RARE specimen, especially in these (last) days.
I never heard that story J. It was definitely a hit job to screw with his mind. There were covertly funded websites that used to write terrible things about him. I provided a link below to a 2018 hit piece. It calls him a racist menace, white supremacy profiteer, vicious bigot and "supposed" expert. It also insinuates his partnership with Ted Anderson of Midas Resources was to sell evil books about the Federal Reserve !! There is more a BUNCH more. Bob died June 4, 2012. The article was written over 6 years after Bob died (12/26/2018) . That is an astounding fact. Why write such wicked things 6 years after he died ? His legacy was still a threat years after he passed. Whoever was behind it didn't want interest in the gold / silver markets to reignite like it did back in 2011. In 2010 Bob started warning of a looming price explosion and it happened just as he said in 2011 resulting in all time highs. -Lamont
Hit piece on Bob: https://tinyurl.com/4xjm9t44
Bob's Bio: https://tinyurl.com/4rnj6jw3
Bob's Obituary website: https://tinyurl.com/mr46n9ed
Facts! 100%!!!! Curious…anyone ever find out the story/deal with Bob’s enemies/detractors, regarding him and the (fraudulent) company he supposedly dealt with that supposedly mined “Antimony”? I never got the truth/story about that. I wrote Bob a couple times about it to speak his side of the story, but he never responded/ignored. His enemies/detractors said he fled USA because of this. And so on. I don’t believe it, and never doubted Bob. But I’d like to know what the story was about it. Anyone know the scoop? If anyone knows anything, it’s gotta be you Lamont. lol. What you got? Thanks.
BrotherJohnF was correct in saying mining stocks are manipulated. Look at what we've been through. Bob was the top gold / silver dealer in the world for several decades. He was definitely ex-military intelligence. He saw things that piqued his interest which eventually made him the great analyst he was. He had no problem telling the truth of matter which made him a huge target of the globalists and the IRS. I heard him say in an interview that the IRS audited him every year for 27 years. He won every case but spent several million dollars in lawyers fees doing so. He was the real deal and the main driver in my decision to buy Hellix. He was a dedicated Christian and not a phony. He always pressed the issue about Hellix having no debt. That has kept them in the game all these years albeit on the sidelines. Bob knew what he was talking about. If they had debt it would have been game over a long time ago. I used to subscribe to The International Forecaster as well. I come across a few old issues on my computer from time to time. Before I bought Hellix I sent Bob a few emails and he always gave a brief reply. He once said he answered over 800 emails per week. He was old school. He did warn Hellix was speculative but had no idea there was an enemy in the camp. We all know who I'm talking about. Bob knew Frank for decades before Hellix became an entity and he trusted him. I believe Bob will have the last laugh one day and be vindicated. -Lamont
BrotherjohnF dropped off the internet. He was big into Perth mint coins. He didn't like mining stocks because he felt they were manipulated. I subscribed to the international forecaster. Bob Chapman was a counter intelligence operative he said and I believe him. I remember listening to him talk about Russia Ukraine about 10 years ago. He said Russia will take all the most important industrial and agricultural land all the way to the Dniper River. I believe he will be correct.
I have been listening to Peter Grandich. I bought some shares of Arizona metals .
I subscribe to Luke Gromen and Srsrocco. Like Gromen is a big gold believer. Luke Gromen also likes Bitcoin. Luke Gromen likes the mining companies.
I bought Hellix when I was ideologically wedded to gold and silver crushing the Fed and the honest money ideology. It has been a brutal 10 years. I still believe in Gold and Silver but I have way too much money sunk in Hellix. I will never put that much money at risk on a pink sheet stock. I pray that Hellix will be successful and we can all celebrate. Bob Chapman was one of kind. He said Hellix was speculative but I didn't listen.
Central Banks around the world know that gold is real money and have been loading the boat in earnest for the last 10 years. In the last year they're buying all they can get their hands on. Hellix has proven in-ground gold which is going to increase dramatically in value moving forward. When the big move in price occurs a renewed interest in gold exploration will emerge. There hasn't been a major old school style gold discovery in 30 years. Major investment in exploration has been low on the radar for a long time. Hence properties like Hellix will be the low hanging fruit much sought after in the beginning. If I remember correctly BrotherJohnF liked his charts and the "MACD" alot. I hope he's doing well. -Lamont
The money game is brutal. I used to follow BrotherjohnF "silver for the people" and bought cryptos on his advice, and that was very good advice. I followed Bob Chapman into Hellix and have held all these years, and I believe that will prove to be good advice. I think the change in societal perceptions about money and value will come when Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, and the Bric countries drop the hammer. The dollar is going to continue to lose value rapidly but not all at once. I believe it will be the much talked about the emergence of the commodities bull run. I heard on a show that the US stock market is 50 % of total world stock market value. Japan was 50% in 1980 I believe. I believe the US will survive and many sectors will prosper but big change in the value proposition of various sectors of the economy is in the works. I just hope Hellix can be a part of the coming changes. Bitcoin has captured the imagination of many people . The technology has many benefits . People believe in technology will always provide solutions, and there's so much riding on innovation. I just want be a part of the shifts and be on the winning team. It's hard but I can't let ideological conviction dictate my investment decisions
Yeah $50 / oz over 12 years ago. In 2023 adjusted for inflation silver has to reach $ 68 to equal what it did in 2011. Adjusted for inflation gold's all-time high was reached in early 1980 at what today would equal $3,452.40 / oz. Gold has a long way to go as well. I remember gold's move in 1980. I won a thick 24k gold chain in a card game. A few days later I brought it to a coin / precious metals shop to see if they would buy it. When I took it out the guy's eyes lit up. He stuck it on the scale and offered me $ 67. I took the money and got out of there pronto in case there was a mistake. That was 43 years ago and would be $ 250 today. The poor guy that lost only owed me $ 20. LOL -Lamont
Just pondering how most people today forget silver hit 50 dollars in our lifetime, (and Bob Chapman called it directly). Anyway, was just thinking how I miss him, and would love to hear his present day thoughts on things. Also his thoughts on Cryptocurrency and its future. ALLLLLLLLLLLL that money going into Bitcoin, instead of Gold. Guaranteed its Gold that should be worth 40K, not Bitcoin!!! And it’s silver that should be worth 2K, not Ethereum!!! Facts! It’s funny their play on words too, like…bit-”coin”…
“the new gold”…”new standard of value”…etc, etc. All a mockery, all baloney! Short term, one can make some money with cryptos (hopefully). But long term, I think it’s all bull excrement.
Yes it certainly would be a great Xmas present. 😇 You've been hanging in there even longer than I have. I didn't start buying until early 2012.
Best wishes. -Lamont
I also am hanging around in the shadows; following the posts, and hoping for a surge in metals prices and junior mining stock prices, including this one which I have held since 2011. Maybe this is the month!! a nice Christmas present!! best regards to all
Hi Tycoon7.
Yes Hellix still exists. Read Mining Hound's post from last year on what transpired when he last spoke to Frank. Hellix is not allowed to trade on the exchanges until the CE (Caveat Emptor) placed on it a few years ago is lifted. Frank stopped updating the SEC when the Brenner thing went down. After a few years the SEC placed a CE hold on it because of non reporting. It wasn't done because of illegal or suspicious activity. There is no sense paying the SEC yearly admin and reporting fees while they were still litigating in court with the stock price on the decline. However that doesn't make Hellix a non-entity that can't do business. They can sell / keep the company and do whatever they want with the property. A CE has absolutely no bearing on that at all. In fact whenever they make any such move they have to convene the board of directors and notify major shareholders of any pending actions and /or votes that will be taking place. I'm a major shareholder and used to get notifications with absentee ballots when the board was convening a vote on any issue(s). I have to be notified because of my substantial stake in the company. I don't know if minor shareholders are assigned the same status in Canada. I voted on several occasions when the company was still going full steam ahead.
I've made the following key points numerous times in hopes they serve to provide a more accurate picture of the facts :
1. Hellix is debt free 2. The property is still owned by parent company Abingdon Ltd which is debt free and draws a continuous stream of revenue from oil royalties and other ventures. 3. The in-ground gold didn't simply vanish when trouble arose (this is a key point which has a huge bearing on the future). 4. Hellix can't be bankrupted because they carry no debt or counter-party liabilities which played a big role in my decision to invest. 5. We are still shareholders with the same standing as before Hellix went into hibernation so to speak. 6. Nobody would liquidate a mining company when they have no compelling reason to do so. Hellix has 3rd party certified mineral assays confirming in-ground gold. J_Dean, Mining Hound and I have been standing in faith for a long time. Hopefully after reading this I can add you to the club as well. 😇 Best wishes -Lamont
Has anyone had any communication with the Hellix management? Does Hellix the company still exist? If they do exist when will they relist the stock?
Thanks J. I'm doing pretty good and hope you are too bud. Gold continued to rise and closed at $ 2085 which is an all time high. It has a LONG way to go. At the very least to $10k, most likely WAY higher. After 52 years its once again a Tier-1 asset with zero weighted risk mandated by international law. Its hard to predict because global debt is beyond astronomical and growing every second. Time will tell bud. Best wishes. -Lamont
Here’s hoping, Lamont. I hope all is well pal.
12/1/23 At the moment (11:59am EDT) gold is at an all time intra-day high of $2070. If it closes the day above $2061 that will be an all time high as well. Gold priced in foreign currencies have been at all time highs around the world for many months. Investors globally are waking up and a concerted move into gold is finally taking place. As the price continues to rise, eyes will turn to the mining and exploration sectors which is what I've been explaining on this board for years. There's a full on war to suppress the gold price but its not working. Monetary history shows that the free market always overwhelms price manipulation no matter how long its gone on. This time will be no different. Let hope arise amongst us few remaining die-hards. -Lamont
I called Charles Schwab and spoke to a trading specialist. I asked about Hellix and the 7,000 shares bought over the last 2 days. I wanted to know how it's possible if there's a CE in place. His answer didn't make any sense and I explained why. I asked him to place a Hellix buy order for me based on his answer and he said he couldn't. Then he was able to understood where I was coming from. Brokerages don't have visibility into where trades originate and I suggested an overseas trading desk. He said "yeah I didn't even think about that" and thought it to be the only sensible explanation. -Lamont
Another 2,500 shares today. Boy would I like to know how they are getting these shares if its not Mr. You Know Who. -Lamont
Somebody grabbed 4,500 shares today at .00001 per share. Brokerages won't transact in Hellix because there is a CE (Caveat Emptor) in place. The transaction fee costs more than purchase price (5 cents). Somebody is grabbing Hellix stock on the sly every few months. I think it's Brenner or an associate at his family's overseas trading desk. Only someone who wants this stock real bad would waste the time unless they had a mechanism for doing so. His lifetime ban from trading securities / equities in Canada doesn't prevent him from doing it elsewhere. Btw, gold is now a global Tier - 1 asset with zero weighted risk. It now has the same status as US Treasuries and cash. The Basel III NSFR regulations went into effect globally in 2022. The COMEX and LBMA can no longer rig the price at will like they've been able to do for the last 25 years. NSFR now requires them to have the actual physical gold on hand to back up all their contracts. Gone are the days where they can dump tens of thousands of naked sell orders into the market to drive the price down. Its causing BIG problems for them globally. Gold priced in foreign currencies are at all time highs around the world. They are fighting like hell here and in London to keep control but it won't work. Instead of settling their contracts for cash, large speculators are now demanding delivery of the physical metal instead. Many are now bypassing the COMEX altogether and going straight to the physical markets to make large purchases. Its getting better and better everyday bud.
-Lamont
I’ve noticed come movement in stock today. My portfolio grew from dollars to 10! Lol
10/20/23 @ 12:00 noon. Gold and silver are making big moves today. Gold is currently $ 68 away from its August 2020 all time high of $2073. Silver is making a big move today as well. The monetary system is failing as the 10 year treasury yield approaches 5%. This indicates institutional investors and countries are pulling their cash out. Pension funds, insurance companies and private sector funds are moving in trying to chase yield which is a fool's errand. Despite this, the yield continues to climb. Last week the US had a failed bond auction which is disastrous. Nobody wants to buy our debt anymore causing the Fed to covertly pump hundreds of $billions into it to keep it from collapsing. Our bond market is the linchpin to keeping the stock market AND the country financially propped up. Rising gold and silver prices are a strong indicator of a failing currency. The dollar is dying. Gold is reviving. -Lamont
Exactly my complaint J. Here in the US we have access to the Canadian stock market via the TSX (Toronto Stock Exchange). Not being forced to provide updates might have something to do with the TSX and / or Canada's Securities Commission rules (or lack of them). As to game playing with permit approval. Bob may have suspected that before Brenner was found to be trading Hellix stock at his family's overseas trading desk. There was talk back then about naked shorting which many on this board didn't understand what that meant. I spent almost a year researching what the signs of naked shorting were and what the ultimate end game is. Hellix is a classic example. Brenner sat in on all the board meetings, knew what was discussed concerning core sample analysis and potentially how much gold could be in the ground. He was in a real good position to covertly drive the stock price down via his family's foreign trading desk. Here is what I think probably went down in some form or fashion. As he was killing the price he was buying as much stock as he could at the extremely depressed prices that he himself created. He couldn't bankrupt Hellix because they have no debt. However he or a family member could hold more sway over the company via all the shares accumulated by his naked shorting. I continued buying as the price went down allowing me to buy a lot more shares than I could have ever bought when the price was above $1 / share. I have a lot of money on the line. That's why I've continued to post in trying to keep the lines of communication open. Time will tell. Gold has started its upward climb in price which won't be stopped. All precious metal manipulations in history have been overwhelmed by the free market at some point and this time will be no different bud. -Lamont
Isn’t it the obligation of board of directors to stay in contact with shareholders (at the very least)? Why give ZERO updates over the decade?! Also, if I can remember, Bob Chapman said the Canadian government was playing games, delay tactics, to not give permit approval. Why, idk? At least I think that’s what the issue was, I can’t exactly remember.
Hi Tyccon_7
Yes thank God Frank is alive. However if he were to be taken out of the picture that doesn't end Hellix. Hellix Ventures is a company with a Board Of Directors, shareholders and a parent company. The loss of a board member doesn't fold it. Hellix's parent company has ultimate control. In numerous posts I've reminded everyone the gold is still in the ground. We don't know what blocked the drill permit because Frank never let us know. There doesn't seem to be anymore pending litigation. I'm already out major money so I'm not going throw anymore at it trying to find out. Exploration companies usually don't plan on keeping properties long term. The payoff comes many years later when the mine(s) are put online and start producing. There is a lot of cost and time involved in bringing a mine online so they usually hope for a senior to come in and buy them out. Frank talked about that very strategy in an interview he gave over 12 years ago. My strong suspicion is that when the Commission found out Brenner was violating Canadian securities law they banned him and took the additional step of placing a hold on the drilling permit. Hellix carries no debt, the parent company has a continuous revenue stream and holds no debt. If a buyer wants the property bad enough it will force a resolution of any issues standing in the way. Money is a big motivator. Hellix will fill Frank's position with a qualified candidate if and when that becomes necessary. We don't know if he's been shopping the property to potential buyers. My suspicion he hasn't because the price of gold has MUCH higher to go. Gold jumped almost $60 / ounce on Friday and is just getting started. Best wishes -Lamont
This sounds like there's still hope for Hellix, thank God Frank Underhill is alive. I know his son Barry used to answer the phone. So the company is viable, is what I understand. Is Hellix able to get a drill permit now? What is stopping the company from moving forward?
My pleasure bud.
-Lamont
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