HURRICANE KATRINA DISCUSSION

[mick]

MAN MADE ?????

[mick]

i wonder why blackwater had orders like this?

[NYBob]

Blackwater Snipers Killed Thousands Of Katrina Victims!
Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:03

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/07/blackwater-snipers-killed-thousands-of-katrina-victims-2989736.html

http://notthesingularity.com/2567/did-special-forces-snipers-operate-in-new-orleans-after-katrina/

[mick]

it is amazing what the gov't didn't pay to loves ones and their family.

[NYBob]

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know -
ex....

God Bless

[mick]

excerpt, gov't never man's up tp their responsibility on what is right for the american people.

dictation is big in wash.

re;
U.S. District Judge Stanwood Duval Jr. has dismissed the cases.
The move comes more than a year after a federal appeals court
overturned his ruling that held the U.S. Army Corps of
Engineers liable for flooding caused by lax maintenance of a
shipping channel.

[NYBob]

Judge ends Katrina flooding lawsuits against feds

The Associated Press
Posted: 12/28/2013 12:50:55 PM CST


FILE - In this Sept. 1, 2005, file photo, residents...
((AP Photo/David J. Phillip, Pool, File))

NEW ORLEANS—Dozens of lawsuits seeking damages from the federal
government for Hurricane Katrina-related levee failures and
flooding in the New Orleans area are over.

U.S. District Judge Stanwood Duval Jr. has dismissed the cases.
The move comes more than a year after a federal appeals court
overturned his ruling that held the U.S. Army Corps of
Engineers liable for flooding caused by lax maintenance of a
shipping channel.

Duval has also dismissed a parallel lawsuit against a
contractor.
It claimed excavation work weakened flood walls in New Orleans'
Industrial Canal.
Duval entered the orders to dismiss the cases on Dec. 20.

More than 500,000 residents, businesses and governments filed
claims against the Corps.
People in southern Louisiana have long taken for granted that
the flooding in the wake of the 2005 storm was a man-made
disaster—one caused specifically by the corps—and they have
wanted the agency to pay up for lost homes and property.

The corps claimed immunity from suits related to decisions on n
flood-control projects, including most levees,
based on a 1928 federal law.
But lawyers tried to get around that by claiming the agency had
been negligent in maintaining navigation channels,
including the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet.

That channel, dug in the 1960s and closed after the hurricane,
funneled Katrina's storm surge into parts of the city.
Overall, thousands of homes were destroyed, about 1,400 people
died in the flood and much of the city was left under water.

Duval had ruled in 2009 that the corps was liable for the
flooding of New Orleans' Lower 9th Ward neighborhood and St.
Bernard Parish because the agency failed to properly maintain
the channel, allowing protective marshland to wash away.

The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals initially agreed with that
decision in March 2012.
But in September, a three-judge panel reversed its earlier
opinion, saying the new ruling "completely insulates the
government from liability."

The ruling could make it extremely difficult to force
the government to pay damages for future mishaps.

Under federal law, the government cannot be sued over actions
based "on considerations of public policy," the appeals panel
wrote.
The corps' decisions regarding the shipping channel fall under
that protection, the judges wrote.

http://www.grahamleader.com/nationalnews/ci_24808162/judge-ends-katrina-flooding-lawsuits-against-feds

[mick]

hi Bob, we pray for all in the path of ISAAC , got a lot of water.

[NYBob]

Seven years to the day Katrina hit New Orleans, Isaac
steps up to the plate.
Does God or HAARP control the weather?

Let's Pray that Isaac will go away - Live New Orleans Isaac Coverage From WDSU

HAARP -Alex Jones- Hurricane Isaac.

HAARP Created Tropical Storm Isaac to Stop Ron Paul's Revolution???

God Wants Ron Paul to Be President -

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=78959328
Amen

[NYBob]

Let's Pray that Isaac will go away - Live New Orleans Isaac Coverage From WDSU

HAARP -Alex Jones- Hurricane Isaac.

HAARP Created Tropical Storm Isaac to Stop Ron Paul's Revolution???

Amen

[mick]

unusual weather take lives of folks in big wind storm. about 38 died so far.

we pray.

[mick]

well this doesn't sound good. flooding will continue there.

[NYBob]

Land-building project in Lousiana shuts down
15 minutes ago
(AP:NEW ORLEANS) Six years after the Army Corps of Engineers hailed a land-building project near the mouth of the Mississippi River as a major step in saving coastal Louisiana, the project is being shut down after millions of dollars went into it.

Over the objections of scientists, a panel overseeing the effort to save coastal Louisiana voted Wednesday to close a river diversion at West Bay, a spot about 75 miles south of New Orleans. The cut in the river was supposed to create 10,000 acres of land. However, after six years and $33.3 million in work, it created little to no land.

Directing the Mississippi's flow into Louisiana's sinking coast through diversions is one of the chief methods being looked at to restore the river delta, one of the fastest eroding coastal areas in the world. South Louisiana has lost more than 2,000 square miles of land since the 1930s, an area roughly the size of Delaware.

The failure of the West Bay diversion highlights the problems federal and state governments face as they try to combat sea level rise and land loss. The project is being scrapped for reasons that have plagued other coastal restoration projects: the conflict between coastal restoration and maritime traffic, high costs, and untested scientific and engineering techniques.

The West Bay diversion is being closed because it led to shoaling of an anchorage spot for ships bound for New Orleans near Pilottown. The Army Corps estimated that it would cost more than $100 million to keep the anchorage free of mud; on Wednesday, a special task force said that cost was prohibitive.

Scientists on Thursday said the move was wrong-headed.

"For me, it's a step backward," said John T. Wells, a coastal geologist at the Virginia Institute of Marine Science who sits on a scientific advisory board looking at how to restore the Mississippi River delta.

Wells said closing the diversion was premature and that not enough time had passed to know for sure whether the diversion might have worked.

"From a scientific standpoint, this is a truly unique opportunity to gain an understanding if the diversions are going to be part of the tool bag," Wells said. He said expectations for the project's land-building capacity after six years were unreasonable.

Col. Alvin Lee, the corps' district engineer in New Orleans, said the diversion simply wasn't worth keeping open.

"It's a difficult decision to make but it was the right decision," Lee said. "It comes down to the benefits and costs."

He said the diversion was an experiment when it was constructed in 2003. "This was a study of a diversion and I think we've learned a significant amount from this diversion," Lee said.

Officials said they looked at a variety of alternatives to keep the diversion open, but that they were bound by legal agreements to maintain the Pilottown anchorage.

Sean Duffy, the president of the Gulf States Maritime Association, said the Pilottown anchorage has been in use for a century and serves as an important safe haven for ships, especially those in distress or caught in fog.

"Prior to the diversion being open, the anchorage never needed to be dredged," Duffy said. "Since the diversion, it has been dredged three times."

He said the maritime industry had hoped the diversion would be successful, but that it made no sense to keep it open because it didn't work as it was intended.

John Day, a coastal expert at Louisiana State University, said scrapping the West Bay project showed that coastal restoration was not a priority.

"It still means flood control and navigation have a much higher priority than coastal restoration," Day said. "The projections are that if we don't do anything, most of the coast will disappear. We have to do big things."

Now, officials are looking at diverting Mississippi water farther upriver, where river sediment may do more good and not get swept offshore, as may be happening at West Bay, which is next to the Gulf of Mexico.

"The idea of investigating in diversions farther upriver with better payout is a good decision," said Oliver Houck, a lawyer and coastal restoration expert at Tulane University in New Orleans. "It sort of shows that economic constraints force you to make better decisions."

[mick]

i think revelations are hitting today and iin future days of 2010.

[NYBob]

To 'mick' on 'HURRICANE KATRINA DISCUSSION' -

http://www.wmu.com/index.php?q=content/hurricane-katrina-survivor-finds-hope-jesus-through-cwjc

http://higherthings.org/katrina.html

Obama Mocks & Attacks Jesus Christ And The Bible / Video /
Obama Is Not A Christian?

[mick]

hi Bob, good evening. looks like the revelations are speaking out loud.

haiti --- haitians get hit very hard in earthquake.

many doing emergency things for their country.

we pray fer all there and their love ones.

[mick]

i kind of read thweener here. on thing it is an obama thing and HIS movement to ruin these insurance companies.

[NYBob]

Miss. court: Hurricane wind damage must be covered
32 minutes ago
(AP:JACKSON, Miss.) Insurance companies must cover damage from a hurricane's wind even if the home is later inundated by storm surge, the Mississippi Supreme Court ruled in a case that a couple filed after Hurricane Katrina.

In its 36-page unanimous ruling Thursday, Justice Michael Randolph said storm damage can be excluded from coverage by language in insurer's homeowner policies when it is caused by a combination of wind and water acting together.

But the court said that the exclusion wouldn't apply in the case that a Long Beach couple, Margaret and Magruder Corban, filed against United Services Automobile Association if it could be determined that wind damage happened first.

The Supreme Court said a jury must decide whether damage to the Corbans' home was caused by wind or water.

Lawyers on both sides said they were pleased.

"There's no question that the decision is a victory for Mississippi homeowners," said Christopher Van Cleave, a lawyer for the Corbans. "That doesn't mean there aren't still battles to be fought."

Paul Berry, a spokesman for San Antonio-based USAA, said the court "confirmed USAA's approach to handling Katrina claims in Mississippi was correct."

"Although other insurers may have taken different approaches, USAA has always paid damage caused solely by wind," he said. "We're also pleased that the court confirmed USAA's position, and decades of insurance law, that damage caused by storm surge is not covered."

Some of the most contentious insurance lawsuits spawned by Katrina dealt with properties that were reduced to slabs, making it difficult to determine if wind or water was responsible.

Insurance companies say their homeowner policies cover damage by a hurricane's wind but not its rising water, including wind-driven storm surge. Insurers also have maintained that damage from a combination of wind and flood water can be excluded from coverage by "anti-concurrent cause" language in their policies.

In a case against State Farm Fire and Casualty Co. after Katrina, U.S. District Judge L.T. Senter Jr. in Gulfport, Miss., ruled that this clause is ambiguous and couldn't be enforced. In 2007, however, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans reversed Senter's ruling and upheld the policy language in that case.

Joseph Lavitt, a Berkeley Law School professor who teaches insurance law, said the Supreme Court disagreed with part of the 5th Circuit's ruling but didn't address whether insurers are liable for damage "when either the wind or the water could have caused the loss without the other and they acted at the same time."

"The Corbans' battle is far from over. Either party may yet prevail under today's ruling," he said.

[mick]

i hear earthquake in asia area today.

[mick]

in az been hot in may, cooler in june, july hot and august hot.

record setting days for evening cool off. some were low of 95*/96*

[The Original dpb5!]

The weather here is good! How is it there?

[mick]

To 'Generic' , great message.

re;
Tech expert: Nagin e-mails disappeared

By BECKY BOHRER, Associated Press Writer - Thu Jul 2, 2009 11:36AM EDT

NEW ORLEANS - A technology expert said Wednesday that potentially years' worth of Mayor Ray Nagin's e-mails have been deleted.

Christopher Reade, a partner in a tech firm who assisted the Louisiana Technology Council in efforts to recover data for the mayor's office, said the mailbox was removed between June 2008 and May 2009. He said 22 gigabytes of data vanished from a defunct server on May 5 — the day of a conference call with the city on the work the outside technology experts would do — but he did not know if the mailbox was among that data.

City technology chief M. Harrison Boyd, who came on board last summer, said he was shocked. He said controls put in place in March would have made it "virtually impossible" to delete any information in May.

Boyd questioned whether the job was too big for the group to handle, adding, "Until I have the opportunity to review their methodology, I would strongly encourage them to step back."

The city blamed a faulty server for not being able to produce more records sought by WWL-TV. The station sued earlier this year over its request for Nagin's 2008 calendar and e-mails from July-through-December 2008. An attorney for WWL-TV, Mary Ellen Roy, said the calendar was turned over, and about 150 e-mails were discovered.

The mayor, as part of the lawsuit, was said to receive 50 to 100 e-mails a day and to send up to five.

The Technology Council, according to city spokesman James Ross, was hired to determine if there were additional e-mails. Boyd said the group was brought in at his suggestion to provide an independent, third-party review — and given full access to city servers.

The Technology Council hopes to finish its work — including trying to recover the mayor's mailbox — within the next week or two, said the group's president, Mark Lewis.

Last week, federal authorities confirmed a criminal investigation involving the city's technology office, crime camera contracts and "related matters" that U.S. Attorney Jim Letten has refused to specify. Investigators last month carried out what Letten and the local FBI Special Agent in Charge David Welker called "court-ordered searches and seizures of stored computer information at City Hall."

The technology office has been the subject of two scathing reports — one by New Orleans' inspector general's office, another city-commissioned — with its handling of contracts and the problem-plagued crime camera program a key focus. The inspector general's report, released in March, noted that Boyd had taken steps to begin addressing some of the problems it found but also said more work was needed to guard against future cost overruns and performance failures.

The technology department also has gotten embroiled in a dispute involving the release of City Council e-mails. The city attorney has said the local sanitation director got CDs of council e-mails from the office and released them — without the legal vetting that protocol dictates — to an attorney who had requested them.

Nagin told WVUE-TV last week that "all" his e-mails had been recovered from his desktop computer and that "there's really no secrets as it relates to my activities." He said there was nothing that federal authorities had spoken with him about directly.

Reade said the disappearance of Nagin's e-mails could not be attributed to server damage that the city says occurred in June 2008, saying Nagin's box appeared to be the only one of dozens of City Hall staffers to have gone missing. He said the missing e-mails could date back several years. Nagin was first elected in 2002.

Reade said he believes it took a "technically competent human action" to remove the box. "The average person, even the average techie, would not know how to do that," he said.

State law calls for maintaining records for at least three years.

An angry Boyd said, "There was no intentional effort by anyone on our staff to delete or remove any information."

Lewis and Reade said their findings have been shared with the city, though Lewis said a formal report was pending.

[mick]

To 'MARKETEDGE', we pray for you all the time.

[mick]

The Original dpb5, longtime no chat. how is the weather in your area?

[mick]

i thought russia was leader in mas weather control?

re;
China Leads Weather Control Race -

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/11/china-leads-wea/

Can China control the weather?

http://science.howstuffworks.com/cloud-seeding.htm

How Lightning Works

http://science.howstuffworks.com/lightning.htm

[NYBob]

China Leads Weather Control Race -

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/11/china-leads-wea/

Can China control the weather?

http://science.howstuffworks.com/cloud-seeding.htm

How Lightning Works

http://science.howstuffworks.com/lightning.htm

[Stock]

Tech expert: Nagin e-mails disappeared

By BECKY BOHRER, Associated Press Writer - Thu Jul 2, 2009 11:36AM EDT

NEW ORLEANS - A technology expert said Wednesday that potentially years' worth of Mayor Ray Nagin's e-mails have been deleted.

Christopher Reade, a partner in a tech firm who assisted the Louisiana Technology Council in efforts to recover data for the mayor's office, said the mailbox was removed between June 2008 and May 2009. He said 22 gigabytes of data vanished from a defunct server on May 5 — the day of a conference call with the city on the work the outside technology experts would do — but he did not know if the mailbox was among that data.

City technology chief M. Harrison Boyd, who came on board last summer, said he was shocked. He said controls put in place in March would have made it "virtually impossible" to delete any information in May.

Boyd questioned whether the job was too big for the group to handle, adding, "Until I have the opportunity to review their methodology, I would strongly encourage them to step back."

The city blamed a faulty server for not being able to produce more records sought by WWL-TV. The station sued earlier this year over its request for Nagin's 2008 calendar and e-mails from July-through-December 2008. An attorney for WWL-TV, Mary Ellen Roy, said the calendar was turned over, and about 150 e-mails were discovered.

The mayor, as part of the lawsuit, was said to receive 50 to 100 e-mails a day and to send up to five.

The Technology Council, according to city spokesman James Ross, was hired to determine if there were additional e-mails. Boyd said the group was brought in at his suggestion to provide an independent, third-party review — and given full access to city servers.

The Technology Council hopes to finish its work — including trying to recover the mayor's mailbox — within the next week or two, said the group's president, Mark Lewis.

Last week, federal authorities confirmed a criminal investigation involving the city's technology office, crime camera contracts and "related matters" that U.S. Attorney Jim Letten has refused to specify. Investigators last month carried out what Letten and the local FBI Special Agent in Charge David Welker called "court-ordered searches and seizures of stored computer information at City Hall."

The technology office has been the subject of two scathing reports — one by New Orleans' inspector general's office, another city-commissioned — with its handling of contracts and the problem-plagued crime camera program a key focus. The inspector general's report, released in March, noted that Boyd had taken steps to begin addressing some of the problems it found but also said more work was needed to guard against future cost overruns and performance failures.

The technology department also has gotten embroiled in a dispute involving the release of City Council e-mails. The city attorney has said the local sanitation director got CDs of council e-mails from the office and released them — without the legal vetting that protocol dictates — to an attorney who had requested them.

Nagin told WVUE-TV last week that "all" his e-mails had been recovered from his desktop computer and that "there's really no secrets as it relates to my activities." He said there was nothing that federal authorities had spoken with him about directly.

Reade said the disappearance of Nagin's e-mails could not be attributed to server damage that the city says occurred in June 2008, saying Nagin's box appeared to be the only one of dozens of City Hall staffers to have gone missing. He said the missing e-mails could date back several years. Nagin was first elected in 2002.

Reade said he believes it took a "technically competent human action" to remove the box. "The average person, even the average techie, would not know how to do that," he said.

State law calls for maintaining records for at least three years.

An angry Boyd said, "There was no intentional effort by anyone on our staff to delete or remove any information."

Lewis and Reade said their findings have been shared with the city, though Lewis said a formal report was pending.

[mick]

hi Bob, very interesting for hurricane stuff.

By tmartin • June 19, 2009

http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-19/congressman-ron-paul-introduces-evacuees-tax-relief-act/
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Auditing the Fed will Audit the State

By tmartin • July 1, 2009
http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-01/auditing-the-fed-will-audit-the-state/
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http://www.detaxcanada.org/

http://www.ronpaul.com/?s=end+the+income+tax&submit=Go

[NYBob]

Congressman Ron Paul Introduces Evacuees Tax Relief Act

By tmartin • June 19, 2009

http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-06-19/congressman-ron-paul-introduces-evacuees-tax-relief-act/
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Auditing the Fed will Audit the State

By tmartin • July 1, 2009
http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-07-01/auditing-the-fed-will-audit-the-state/
--
http://www.detaxcanada.org/

http://www.ronpaul.com/?s=end+the+income+tax&submit=Go

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3626

[NYBob]

FEMA tricks out new trailers for next disaster
3 minutes ago
By EILEEN SULLIVAN
Associated Press Writer

(AP:EMMITSBURG, Md.) They're clean, shutterless and decorated with a rainbow of beige hues. They're mobile homes built for future disaster victims and, so far, have safe levels of formaldehyde.

The six newly designed mobile homes were rolled out Thursday by federal officials to replace the much-criticized travel trailers used in the wake of Hurricane Katrina in 2005. Many people said living in the earlier models made them sick.

The mobile homes _ including one travel trailer _ were built as part of a program to develop new disaster housing solutions for the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

After Katrina, 1 million people lost their homes in Louisiana and Mississippi. FEMA sent thousands of mobile homes into the region only to learn later of high levels of formaldehyde, a chemical used in the glue for building materials that can lead to breathing problems and is also believed to cause cancer.

Residents of FEMA-issued trailers reported frequent headaches, nosebleeds and other ailments.

The new models _ which range in price from $45,000 to $75,000 _ were toured by federal officials in Emmitsburg, Md. The trailers have been tested and meet FEMA standards for safe formaldehyde levels.

Students at the National Emergency Training Center in Emmitsburg will live in the units and test them for the next six to 12 months, said Jack Schuback, the FEMA official who is overseeing the project.

One thing they will watch is whether formaldehyde levels increase over time. Schuback said cooking and smoking can sometimes increase the level of formaldehyde in the air.

There is no industry standard for the amount of formaldehyde allowed in travel trailers. The government sets standards for indoor air quality for materials used to build mobile homes, but not for travel trailers.

Government tests in 2007 found an average of 77 parts formaldehyde per billion parts of air in FEMA trailers issued after the 2005 hurricanes. FEMA's standard for the new trailers is 16 parts formaldehyde or less per billion parts of air.

Getting these units built without using much formaldehyde was one of the challenges, Schuback said.

One of the prototypes _ the D&D Hybrid Park Model _ is two bedrooms, one bathroom with walls insulated with 100 percent sheep wool. The wool absorbs the formaldehyde, said D&D chief executive officer Bill Hanblin.

The travel trailer prototype _ made by Texas-based Frontier RV _ is the first to have a device that circulates fresh outside air into the trailer, said Ryan Buras, a housing program specialist at FEMA. This one-bedroom trailer is also handicap-accessible with a bathroom three times larger than the typical travel trailer bathroom.

The other four units are made by Arkel International LLC of Baton Rouge, La., Heston Group of New Orleans, Lexington Homes Inc., of Lexington, Miss., and TL Industries of Elkhart, Ind.

If a major hurricane or flood left people homeless _ as happened after Katrina _ FEMA could order units similar to those being tested, Schuback said.

The government's disaster housing strategy _ which was adopted during the Bush administration _ says disaster victims can be housed in trailers only as a last resort, even though Bush officials promised to never use them again. The strategy says that if mobile homes are used, they must meet FEMA's new standard and disaster victims can use them no longer than six months.

By FEMA's count, 2,570 trailers and mobile homes are still being used in Louisiana and 1,500 in Mississippi to house victims of hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

___

Associated Press writer Becky Bohrer contributed to this report from New Orleans.

The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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La. signs $30 million Road Home contract -
9 minutes ago

(AP:BATON ROUGE, La.) Louisiana will pay up to $30 million
to the new contractor running the Road Home program
that doles out grants to homeowners with damage
from hurricanes Katrina and Rita, under a two-year
contract released Thursday by the Louisiana Recovery Authority.

The state announced in February that Hammerman and Gainer Inc.,
based in Lutcher, will manage the program, taking over
from heavily criticized ICF International Inc.

Hammerman and Gainer, one of ICF's largest subcontractors
working on the Road Home, took control of the program
April 20, the state recovery authority said in a statement.

The contract with the company includes 19 performance standards,
and the company faces fines for errors in files and for
not meeting certain benchmarks.
For example, Hammerman and Gainer must have a final error
rate of less than 5 percent or face a $10,000 fine for
each percentage point above that, according to the contract.

The Road Home has handed out $7.9 billion in grants to
more than 124,000 homeowners, from federal aid given
to Louisiana after Katrina and Rita struck in 2005.

ICF, the Fairfax, Va.-based company hired by former Gov. Kathleen Blanco's administration,
has been paid more than $867 million for its work so far,
but critics said homeowners were treated poorly and often
given less money than they should have received.

Rather than renew a contract with ICF, Gov. Bobby Jindal's
administration broke up the components of the Road Home
and solicited bids for new companies. Contractors other
than Hammerman and Gainer will collect and store Road Home
data and run a separate Road Home program to help
repair small rental property.

Virginia-based CGI Technologies and Solutions Inc.
will receive up to $40 million for providing Road Home data
storage and technology services for other hurricane recovery programs.
ACS State & Local Solutions Inc., based in Dallas, will
be paid up to $37.5 million to run the slow-moving program
to help small landlords rebuild rental property.
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High stakes in Hurricane Katrina flooding trial -

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090419/ap_on_re_us/katrina_flood_lawsuit

Ice is expanding in much of Antarctica, contrary to the widespread public belief that global warming is melting the continental ice cap.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517035,00.html
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Catastrophic’ Sea-Level Rise Possible, Reef Reveals
Enviromental Headlines;
Climate Change(Bloomberg) --

Fossilized coral reefs formed the last time the Earth
was warmer than today show sea levels could rise rapidly
by the end of the century if global warming triggers
a collapse of ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica.

A “catastrophic” rise in the ocean of 4 meters to 6 meters
(13 feet to 19.6 feet) is possible, said Paul Blanchon,
a scientist at the National University of Marine Sciences
in Cancun, Mexico, whose team studied the fossilized reefs.

The death and re-emergence on higher elevation of reefs
121,000 years ago could only result from a rapid increase
in ocean levels caused by the breakdown of ice sheets,
he said.

Ice caps like those that cover the Antarctic and Greenland
are thought to be melting at a rate that could raise sea
levels by about 12 meters over the next millennium,
Blanchon said.

His report, to be published in the April 16 issue of Nature,
says global warming caused by burning fossil fuels could
shorten that time frame to several hundred years.

“What we’re saying is ice sheets may not just melt due
to global warming,” Blanchon said.
“That’s the real problem that we face, can these ice
sheets basically slide into the ocean?”

Bloomberg
Posted on Thursday, April 16 @ 06:05:56 PDT by Leanan
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I have been assured, by everyone from Ph.D.s to poets, that HAARP is:
1. An ionospheric heater
2. A research tool
3. A military test bed
4. A tax-subsidized boondoggle
5. A directed-energy weapon
6. A communication system for submarines
7. A source of field-aligned ionospheric VHF reflectors
8. A way to improve satellite links
9. A planetary x-ray machine
10. A plot to depopulate the Third World
11. A means of creating power blackouts at will
12. Electronic warfare
13. Tesla's wireless power transmission
14. Tesla's secret death ray
15. Searching for space aliens
16. Killing space aliens
17. Killing off the militias
18. Keeping them awake at night (through RF head rectification)
19. Enforcing the New World Order
20. Creating nuclear-scale explosions
21. Weather modification
22. CIA mind control
23. Brain wave modification
24. The end of HF radio
25. The end of wildlife in Alaska
26. The end of atmospheric ozone
27. The end of the human race
28. The end of Earth itself.
Now, this is pretty good for one transmitter.
I think the last experimental radio that attracted
this kind of attention was built by Marconi.
What's Up With HAARP?

you could be right...
It's not only greenhouse gas emissions: Washington's new world order weapons
have the ability to trigger climate change.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/haarp.html

great reading here;
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/haarpFactSheet.html

re;
US Patent for the HAARP Project -

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/77884

You are not going to believe what is being covered by National Geographic -

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/81607

Clearly, they are subconsciously preparing us for alien invasion:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/haarp_index.htm

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/haarpFactSheet.html

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=haarp

[NYBob]

La. signs $30 million Road Home contract -
9 minutes ago

(AP:BATON ROUGE, La.) Louisiana will pay up to $30 million
to the new contractor running the Road Home program
that doles out grants to homeowners with damage
from hurricanes Katrina and Rita, under a two-year
contract released Thursday by the Louisiana Recovery Authority.

The state announced in February that Hammerman and Gainer Inc.,
based in Lutcher, will manage the program, taking over
from heavily criticized ICF International Inc.

Hammerman and Gainer, one of ICF's largest subcontractors
working on the Road Home, took control of the program
April 20, the state recovery authority said in a statement.

The contract with the company includes 19 performance standards,
and the company faces fines for errors in files and for
not meeting certain benchmarks.
For example, Hammerman and Gainer must have a final error
rate of less than 5 percent or face a $10,000 fine for
each percentage point above that, according to the contract.

The Road Home has handed out $7.9 billion in grants to
more than 124,000 homeowners, from federal aid given
to Louisiana after Katrina and Rita struck in 2005.

ICF, the Fairfax, Va.-based company hired by former Gov. Kathleen Blanco's administration,
has been paid more than $867 million for its work so far,
but critics said homeowners were treated poorly and often
given less money than they should have received.

Rather than renew a contract with ICF, Gov. Bobby Jindal's
administration broke up the components of the Road Home
and solicited bids for new companies. Contractors other
than Hammerman and Gainer will collect and store Road Home
data and run a separate Road Home program to help
repair small rental property.

Virginia-based CGI Technologies and Solutions Inc.
will receive up to $40 million for providing Road Home data
storage and technology services for other hurricane recovery programs.
ACS State & Local Solutions Inc., based in Dallas, will
be paid up to $37.5 million to run the slow-moving program
to help small landlords rebuild rental property.

[NYBob]

High stakes in Hurricane Katrina flooding trial -

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090419/ap_on_re_us/katrina_flood_lawsuit

Ice is expanding in much of Antarctica, contrary to the widespread public belief that global warming is melting the continental ice cap.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517035,00.html
--

Catastrophic’ Sea-Level Rise Possible, Reef Reveals
Enviromental Headlines;
Climate Change(Bloomberg) --

Fossilized coral reefs formed the last time the Earth
was warmer than today show sea levels could rise rapidly
by the end of the century if global warming triggers
a collapse of ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica.

A “catastrophic” rise in the ocean of 4 meters to 6 meters
(13 feet to 19.6 feet) is possible, said Paul Blanchon,
a scientist at the National University of Marine Sciences
in Cancun, Mexico, whose team studied the fossilized reefs.

The death and re-emergence on higher elevation of reefs
121,000 years ago could only result from a rapid increase
in ocean levels caused by the breakdown of ice sheets,
he said.

Ice caps like those that cover the Antarctic and Greenland
are thought to be melting at a rate that could raise sea
levels by about 12 meters over the next millennium,
Blanchon said.

His report, to be published in the April 16 issue of Nature,
says global warming caused by burning fossil fuels could
shorten that time frame to several hundred years.

“What we’re saying is ice sheets may not just melt due
to global warming,” Blanchon said.
“That’s the real problem that we face, can these ice
sheets basically slide into the ocean?”

Bloomberg
Posted on Thursday, April 16 @ 06:05:56 PDT by Leanan
--

I have been assured, by everyone from Ph.D.s to poets, that HAARP is:
1. An ionospheric heater
2. A research tool
3. A military test bed
4. A tax-subsidized boondoggle
5. A directed-energy weapon
6. A communication system for submarines
7. A source of field-aligned ionospheric VHF reflectors
8. A way to improve satellite links
9. A planetary x-ray machine
10. A plot to depopulate the Third World
11. A means of creating power blackouts at will
12. Electronic warfare
13. Tesla's wireless power transmission
14. Tesla's secret death ray
15. Searching for space aliens
16. Killing space aliens
17. Killing off the militias
18. Keeping them awake at night (through RF head rectification)
19. Enforcing the New World Order
20. Creating nuclear-scale explosions
21. Weather modification
22. CIA mind control
23. Brain wave modification
24. The end of HF radio
25. The end of wildlife in Alaska
26. The end of atmospheric ozone
27. The end of the human race
28. The end of Earth itself.
Now, this is pretty good for one transmitter.
I think the last experimental radio that attracted
this kind of attention was built by Marconi.
What's Up With HAARP?

you could be right...
It's not only greenhouse gas emissions: Washington's new world order weapons
have the ability to trigger climate change.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/haarp.html

great reading here;
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/haarpFactSheet.html

re;
US Patent for the HAARP Project -

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/77884

You are not going to believe what is being covered by National Geographic -

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/81607

Clearly, they are subconsciously preparing us for alien invasion:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/haarp_index.htm

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/haarpFactSheet.html

[The Original dpb5!]

Just exactly HOW stupid IS stupid?

The link below discusses how Galveston instituted a "look and leave" policy to let residents back onto the island to sneak a peak.

Once officials realized the vast influx of those curious to "look and see then leave" they suspended the policy.

DUH!

Why in the world would any Public Official announce an open "Look and Leave" Policy without realizing in advance that it would draw not only residents of Galveston but likely would also draw citizens from as far away as perhaps 100 or more miles of Galveston to want to drive to Galveston just to have a "LOOK"?

Just imagine for ONE MINUTE how that same "look and leave policy" might have played out if New York City had announced the same after 9/11 !!

To me, it is obvious that we have way too many Public Officials that errantly announce such a frivolous statement in the aftermath of tragedy.

WILL WE EVER LEARN ???

The very LAST thing that Galveston ever needed after Hurricane Ike was for allowing people to come and "take a look and leave".

How many more devastating hurricanes does the U.S. need before officials finally get their act together and learn to seperate the differences of devastation versus curiosity?

Here is the link to this ridiculous scenario........

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sfl-flaike0917sbsep17,0,5843369.story

[MARKETEDGE]

I agree.

[mick]

i hope they do get taken care of. you know in katrina insurance companies took weeks to make good and tried to get out of some.

[MARKETEDGE]

Yes, in my opinion, more people along the gulf coast should ensure that they have insurance policies in place for their homes and their families.

[mick]

a lot of displaced folks with hurricane IKE since it hit gulf coast shores.

[MARKETEDGE]

Press Release Source: Wyncrest Group, Inc.

Wyncrest Group, Inc. Today Announces Plans to Provide Limited Catastrophic Storm Insurance
Monday September 15, 9:16 am ET


CHICAGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Wyncrest Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets:WYCT - News) today Announces plans to provide limited Catastrophic Storm insurance. In an effort to extend the range of it’s Offshore Catastrophic Insurance Division, the company has engaged in the assessment of insurance to homeowners who have been denied by domestic insurers who will no longer take the risk in many areas devastated by hurricanes and tornadoes. There is a tremendous need to provide storm survivors who have lost their homes and insurance and are in need of some specific coverage to rebuild.
Staying focused on its corporate objective of expansion into lucrative Insurance niche markets, the Wyncrest Group has anchored its new division, Offshore Catastrophic Insurance Division in a lucrative position to grow in this Insurance category.

With the implementation of its Offshore Services Division growth strategy and the formation of,the Catastrophic Insurance Division, the Wyncrest Group provides an interface into enormous untapped profits for the company and its investor group serving the Catastrophic Insurance market.

The Catastrophic Insurance Division is part of and compliments the Wyncrest Group’s Offshore Services Division, which includes:

Wyncrest Group’s Offshore Services Division


Catastrophic Insurance Division
Aviation Insurance Division
Captive Insurance Companies Division
Extended Warranty Insurance Division
Wyncrest Group’s flagship subsidiary, Southwest Financial Group has served its 18,000 clients in the Heartland of America with 285 reps nation wide for 22 years with revenues near 23 million per year.

About The Wyncrest Group

Wyncrest Group is a growing holding company comprised of subsidiaries within the financial and insurance industry segments. From Life Insurance and Long Term Care to Student and Sports Insurance and Employee Group Benefits, Wyncrest Group’s broad financial product and service offerings provide economic protection and growth opportunities for investors.

No statement herein should be considered an offer or a solicitation of an offer for the purchase or sale of any securities. This release contains forward-looking statements that are based upon current expectations or beliefs, as well as a number of assumptions about future events. Although the Company believes that the expectations reflected in the forward-looking statements and the assumptions upon which they are based are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations and assumptions will prove to have been correct.

Forward-looking statements, which involve assumptions and describe our future plans, strategies, and expectations, are generally identifiable by use of the words "may," "will," "should," "could," "expect," "anticipate," "estimate," "believe," "intend," or "project" or the negative of these words or other variations on these words or comparable terminology.

The reader is cautioned not to put undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, as these statements are subject to numerous factors and uncertainties, including but not limited to adverse economic conditions, intense competition, lack of meaningful research results, entry of new competitors and products, adverse federal, state and local government regulation, inadequate capital, unexpected costs and operating deficits, increases in general and administrative costs, termination of contracts or agreements, technological obsolescence of the Company's products, technical problems with the Company's research and products, price increases for supplies and components, litigation and administrative proceedings involving the Company, the possible acquisition of new businesses or technologies that result in operating losses or that do not perform as anticipated, unanticipated losses, the possible fluctuation and volatility of the Company's operating results, financial condition and stock price, losses incurred in litigating and settling cases, dilution in the Company's ownership of its business, adverse publicity and news coverage, inability to carry out research, development and commercialization plans, loss or retirement of key executives and research scientists, changes in interest rates, inflationary factors, and other specific risks.

The Company undertakes no obligation to publicly release the results of any revisions to these forward-looking statements that may be made to reflect the events or circumstances after the date hereof or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events.

[mick]

hi marketedge, it is very different this time around. our economy got hi one time many times.

could be , will watch.

WYCT

[MARKETEDGE]

A valiant idea mick. The minimum donation is only $10 and most people pay more that on trade commissions each day. And for those who are trying to make tax donations, its also tax deductible.

[MARKETEDGE]

A pinksheet catastrophy insurance play ,

WYCT http://www.wyncrestgroupinc.com/chairman_letter.html


Letter from the Chairman

As Chairman of Wyncrest Group since 2006 I have seen the company weather the worst storms, floods and fires in the history of our country. With Katrina in 05 behind us, we thought we had been through it all and yet the insurance industry came through it in good shape and stood strong because of international insurance underwriters investment laws and policies. Hard times bring out the best in us all.

As we watch New Orleans crawl back to life we are reminded how precious those policies we hope we never need… are there for us. And so we must learn from the cracks in the wall.

It seemed like a good omen that signaled a time to re-invent what an international insurance provider could provide. Wyncrest Group has been building safe insurance investments and unique financial solutions utilizing offshore insurance companies that will redefine who we are.

Since I became Chairman we have successfully:

Acquired Southwest Financial Group, our flagship insurance and financial services business doing 23 million in revenues with 285 nation wide representatives serving 22,000 clients from Teachers retirement funds to Sports event insurance coverage.
Wyncrest acquired a patent pending business method for controlling the sale of contact information to telemarketers Electronic Commerce System.
Acquisition of Offshore License and formation of Off Shore Insurance and Reinsurance companies for a variety of Insurance products, including but not limited to Life & Health, Casualty and Warranty Service Policies, as a controlled foreign corporation.
Established Wyncrest Group’s Offshore Services Division which includes:
Catastrophic Insurance Division
Extended Warranty Insurance Division
Captive Insurance Companies Division
Aviation Insurance Division

As we approach completion of our audited financials, we are advancing our stride towards acquisitions that will provide an established foundation upon which Wyncrest can focus on development of its array of individually unique, niche offshore financial services that are positioned for immense growth as industry analysis predicts.

Our next agenda has been to structure an offshore services division that provides

Wyncrest Group’s Offshore Services Division provides offshore Insurance companies, offshore bank and trust companies and command the most up-to-date tools in the field of tax planning and tax optimization. Like offshore banks, insurance companies formed in offshore jurisdictions also enjoy the enormous growth and secure environment of the offshore system and legislation.

Insurance business activities have become a highly profitable and growing interest for many private international offshore insurance companies, and it is no exception that an offshore branch office of an insurance company is more profitable than its parent onshore company.

Wyncrest Group’s growth strategy is to seek businesses that will advance the company's quest to vertically integrate and become a stronger force in its financial communities. Wyncrest will continue to strive towards procuring sales of its various product lines and technical capacity.

I invite you to participate in our growth plans and strategies.

Best Regards for a safe and prosperous year,

Bill Mc Farland
Wyncrest Group Chairman

[mick]

IN THE IBOX FOR HURRICANE IKE FAMILIES. "HURRICANE IKE HITS GULF COAST FRIDAY --- 09/12/2008"
FROM MARKETEDGE---
Red Cross to help the disaster victims in U.S.

http://american.redcross.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ntld_main&s_subsrc=RCO_DonateButton&s_src=F7ZWGR00

Disaster Services & Emergency Assistance
To find a shelter, obtain emergency food, water and other disaster relief, contact your local Red Cross chapter.
Find and contact your local Red Cross chapter
Or call 1-800-REDCROSS (1-800-733-2767) or 1-800-257-7575 (Español)

[mick]

from MAREKETEDGE HURRICANE IKE! "donate to the Red Cross to help the disaster victims in U.S."

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=32156546


If anyone gets a chance, donate to the Red Cross to help the disaster victims in U.S.

http://american.redcross.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ntld_main&s_subsrc=RCO_DonateButton&s_src=F7ZWGR00

Disaster Services & Emergency Assistance
To find a shelter, obtain emergency food, water and other disaster relief, contact your local Red Cross chapter.
Find and contact your local Red Cross chapter
Or call 1-800-REDCROSS (1-800-733-2767) or 1-800-257-7575 (Español)

[mick]

i spelled the city GALVESTON WRONG. GALVESTON,TX

[mick]

for those on shoreline area warnings for galvanston,texas

"get moving into the direction where safety is being shown by reporting media."

not so much da wind but it is the surge that is coming.

sounds like one hurricane that hit galvanston--texas shorline areas that many thought it would as the ones they stood ground before.

but that one took many lives and buildings,etc.

[mick]

hurricane IKE! assistants , friends and readers. a very strong gulf water current is splashing high toward texas gulf shore areas.

even n.o. is showing some orange on their gulf shorelines too.

i think sterling is in the houston,texas area.

we hope all are out of the storm range for damage.

sterling and all we pray for your safety.

[mick]

looks like the surge from IKE is going to be as bad as KATRINA.

so surge is the concern over the storm rating of cat 2 or cat 3

[mick]

IKE? a CAT 4? biggest one in several years to hit texas. due to hit in about 48 hours in gulf areas.

[mick]

so since katrina "many depression have formed. " last two years not too bad."

this year is a wow about depressions and hurricanes.

gustav, hanna, ike bearing down as a biggie and josphine.

early part of winter tornados hit many states very hard.

spring rains hit midwest hard.

summer rains causing lots of flooding.

[mick]

hi rusty, these are in the map showing today.