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Okey Dokey and cheers to you too!
My GSPE Sunday rhyme
I believe there was a typo/error in the NT-10K filed by GulfSlope
I the narrative explanation for the delay it states that they will file by the fifth calendar day following the original deadline
I thought it was odd when I first read that because the deadline is the 15th calendar day past the due date
Tuesday Jan 16 is the correct deadline for the late 10-K
Cheers to everyone in 2024
New Beginnings
spec
NT 10-K filed
So a few more days to see what the narrative brings, hopefully something positive
Happy New Year to everyone
Cheers
spec
GSPE Happy Friday and Happy New Year 🥳
more ‘bout this kinda energy in 2024
Uh ohhhhh the bid is .001 and the ask is up to .0011… could this be a sign of some positive movement?!?!?! Good luck everyone!!!!
The bid is up, maybe it’s the full moon
Cheers to others who picked up a few ATL 0006 stocking stuffers
Some volume in this direction would be an excellent sign, not enough yet to be meaningful other than “looks good”
WTI still mid $70’s (but currently rising) amid escalating geopolitical issues
I expect a very big positive move on many fronts in 2024, hopefully it will include GulfSlope breaking out to the upside bigly
spec
GSPE popped in to wish you the loveliest of Holidays!
“May He give you the desire of your heart and make all your plans succeed.”
Be careful out there sweet GSPE my light up ugly Xmas sweater shocked my ASK twice this week. Oh and you can’t miss me at the party I’ll be wearin’ gold from tip to toe 🥂 meantime I’ll just stay snug as a bug in my Xmas PJs!
A 🎁 for GSPE
Well said Mrs Smith. I hope all of you on this board have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Year!! Good things are coming our way in 2024!
T01
I was pleasantly surprised by the revenue generated in the recent BOEM oil and gas lease auction, especially considering the efforts to limit exploration and production.
The auction yielded approximately $400 million in revenues. In contrast, the most recent ‘GOM Wind’ auction produced around $6 million in revenues.
What an indicator of the contrast between the two different energy approaches! Energy investors obviously understand where the ROI comes from and the risks of abandoning oil and gas investments.
For purposes of comparison, the following are the last 3 BOEM lease sales and the lease sale prior to Covid.
BOEM lease sale (253) on 8-21-2019, pre-Covid, had 27 participating companies for a total of approximately $160 million in high bids on 151 blocks.
BOEM lease sale (257) on 11-17-2021 had 33 participating companies for a total of around $200 million in high bids on 303 blocks.
BOEM lease sale (259) on 3-29-2023 had 32 participating companies for a total of approximately $260 million in high bids on 313 blocks.
BOEM lease sale (261) on 12-20-2023 had 26 participating companies for a total of around $400 million in high bids on 311 blocks.
Observe that the revenue generated is steadily increasing.
I think it is fair to say that the majority of Gulfslope’s domestic and foreign investors hoped to share in a rare opportunity to create enormous wealth that an emerging oil and gas company can produce.
But when U.S. Oil and Gas E&P businesses are not allowed to have a free market to control the way they make their own profits in the Industry, then the whole system is at risk.
U.S. government overreach by using unfair rules and regulations against one particular industry, in this case the oil and gas industry, which happens to be ONE of the LARGEST PROFIT PRODUCING industries, can and will stifle and potentially destroy Capitalism.
Over the past three years, the DOI and DOE has been laying the foundation for a reduction in oil and gas BOEM lease auctions and the permitting process as a whole.
Even with the positive amendments to NEPA’s permitting process in the ‘2023 Fiscal Responsibility Act’, they have been relentlessly enforcing additonal EPA and NEPA restrictions to achieve a negative impact on as much exploration and production as possible. But it appears that despite all these efforts companies did not hesitate to bid 50% more dollars in this week’s lease auction. The obvious conclusion is energy from oil and gas will exist far into the future as has been predicted in all the recent forecasts.
Fortunately for the consumer, they have not yet been completely successful in their mission for power and control over energy production. Thus far it has mostly been a losers game of cat and mouse retaliation. When you get in the way of the Federal Offshore ‘Atlantic Wind’ lease auctions to protect the Right whales, then they retaliate by new restrictions on Federal Offshore ‘GOM Oil and Gas’ lease auctions in the name of the Rice’s whales.
Due to circumstances being fluid, investors should plan to rely on information released by Gulfslope Energy in the upcoming 10-K and other reliable sources.
Tiger01, I was elated by your post. However, I believe they officially referred to it as ‘Recoverable Resources’. You do not have reserves until after a discovery.
Mrs. Smith
Tbags, the ones who are left are us fools.... we are stuckholders and are shamelessly holding this as we believe this will win. Yes, we are delusional and self sufferers in our minds. Hope is not one our side, and we have nothing but Merry christmas to send as a good vibe.... so sad that some here talk lots and convinced people this was a good buy...good bye
Sure beats tax sell offs we have seen in recent years at this time! I will take it!
One day does not make a trend but it was a pretty good tape today
$2K of ASK slapping bought a bump in the share price and brings the market cap up to only $1.3M
40% in green sure looks pretty as a snapshot though
WTI still mid $70’s and no improvement in the instability of markets
Enjoy your weekend and Christmas holiday with family
Santa Claus rally is always welcome
Cheers
spec
Picture it now, me and you riding lambos in heaven… but a special lambo that just flies from GSPE rig to GSPE rig in the gulf. That’s my Christmas wish @elcheepo!
Only in heaven Tbags, only in heaven
It means lambos for all of us @elcheepo
I don't know if it means anything for GSPE but an uptick in GOM activity is certainly not negative for GSPE. Given Tau's reported estimated reserves, it's a lot cheaper to drill on the shelf than 120 miles out in deep water. Who knows!
HI Tiger01, what does this mean for GulfSlope Energy?
Good Read, thanks for sharing. A bit surprised but certainly good news. There are still players in the game!! Merry Christmas to all.
Here is an article from the Baton Rouge paper this morning. According to API, it was the highest bid total for a GOM auction in a decade. Encouraging!
https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/business/gulf-of-mexico-oil-auction-nets-422-million-in-bids/article_8d08415e-9f5e-11ee-a672-93fdab902ffc.html
I did catch a little bit of the lease sale live broadcast but haven’t yet looked at comparable activity from recent auctions or pre-covid examples
Most of the bids seemed to fall in between a half mil and 5 million with at least 2 blocks in deep water receiving bids over $20 Million including one block that had only one bid which was from Shell at $25 million
Shelf block that were offered received winning bids from Arena and Houston Energy LLC
I believe that the lease that GulfSlope was awarded has a current market value several times higher than the current market capitalization of GSPE even excluding the value in the processed seismic and well logs, and ignoring the NOLs
As I have mentioned previously, I believe that there is always a chance that GSPE could go to zero but a far more likely that they will be able to ink a deal that will create value for shareholders
If they fail, it certainly won't happen because they are scammers or incompetent
There’s genuine opportunity for a small independent like GulfSlope to reap huge rewards for their shareholders
I’m in for some drillin’
Let it flow, let it flow, let it flow
Cheers
spec
WTI dipped to $68 yesterday and bounced up a little to $70 today
More uncertainty and some indication of further weakness in global oil demand partly due to escalating conflict in the Yemen/Red Sea, a vital choke point in shipping
GSPE dipping to.0006 with some bigger blocks dumped on a weak bid, likely due to tax loss harvesting
Christmas shopping in shorts this year and enjoying the Geminid meteor showers tonight
Nothing like a little stargazing and introspection to make you feel very small
If you start to feel like you’re TOO SMALL ….
….. just squeeze yourself into an airline seat in economy class
Keep the Christmas lights bright and the spirit strong
Peace ☮️
spec
It certainly is a very tall request, but Christmas is the season for miracles
Good deeds to all worthy souls in need and good will toward all of mankind are priceless gifts that we can all give
Merry Christmas
spec
WTI lingers in the low $70’s
Who would think that there’s been so little risk premium given the recent rash of attacks on US interests in the Middle East ?
Now add the three commercial vessels in the Red Sea hit by missiles fired from Yemen
Hmmm, and you can have 6 Billion guesses where the money trail for those weapons came from
When we throw money at countries that hate us, there’s hardly any time for the ink to dry
All I want for Christmas is World Peace and Tau2
If GulfSlope gets rolling soon, Tau2 could happen first (and it would certainly help achieve the other wish)
Big business like Delek or maybe an independent like Houston Energy plan in scale of decades, not weeks and months
The big cannon is primed and aimed, just a charge of propellant and pointed thingy and it is go time
Peace ☮️
spec
I’m pulling for Bullish I was wondering what your inspiration for the post was. This stock could use some good news.
I think the name of the game here is to do your own research and due diligence. Then form your own conclusion based on these efforts, and make investment decisions appropriate to the circumstances.
There will be those so committed to their objective that they do not seek to identify and understand the trends, preferring instead to only pummel the share price.
This intent is easily spotted. These participants are unlikely to have the ability to predict the future course of the stock based on what is happening in the marketplace.
Rather than relying primarily on perceptions, doing research and due diligence, which results in being informed and aware, is what leads to being Bullish or Bearish. Only time will tell the tale.
For those seeking confirmation that Gulfslope is still intending to drill in the GOM, according to the BOEM Chief Notes - Weekly Activity Reports, and Adjudication Files there is no record of the Tau lease being relinquished. In addition, BSEE’s December 1, 2023 Active Lease by Designated Operator Report still identifies the Tau as an active lease. So evidently Gulfslope Energy and Delek Group recently paid their Tau lease annual rental payment of $105,000 ($21 x 5000 ac). I cannot stress enough the importance of this as an indicator of future intent.
Link to 12/1/2023 Active Lease by Designated Operator Report (page 43): https://www.data.bsee.gov/Leasing/Files/1360.pdf
The next indicator to expect is Gulfslope’s ‘audited’ financials (10-K) due out this month.
All things considered, one should contemplate the possibility of an upward movement in the subsequent share price in 2024. Plan accordingly.
As for future paths from this point forward, I will remain a moderator for this message board. As my schedule permits, I will also continue to answer questions.
Visions of relaxing in a hammock under the warm sun are certainly appealing. However, the next tasks ahead for me are completing my Christmas shopping and Holiday visits to family and close friends.
Mrs. Smith
Why bullish?
Tryptophan haze from big home cooked turkey and all the trimmings
It’s a seasonal classic, feels warm, happy, and ready for nappy
If it was warmer it would be hammock time
Markets slow, mostly steady, in the fossil fuels even with the instability in geopolitical risks
GSPE is very thinly traded in the doldrums, most days either lunch money sized dollar volume or nothing at all
Domestic oil production at all time highs and Brandon’s crew takes a victory lap claiming that the current policies “are working to keep gas prices down”
That would be funny if it wasn’t such a serious issue
WTI hangs in the mid to upper 70’s, more OPEC cuts coming, and a pause in one of our current cluster of hot wars
The Beaver moon was beautiful and higher latitudes might be getting Auroras in the next 48 hrs
GLTA
Cheers
spec
There are ‘false alarm’ posts that cry “wolf” being presented. So I ask what conclusion should one have when confronted by these continuing efforts?
To be clear, due to and despite these posts, I will continue to follow and put my faith in analyses from professional organizations such as the EIA, API, DFR, GCEO (LSU), BSEE, OPEC, et al with reputations for credibility.
These organizations offer consistently accurate evaluations and provide recommendations useful for establishing expectations. Even though it requires a bit more effort, investment funds deserve nothing less.
Finding a need, I have attempted to bring these analyses to the readers of the board in my posts. Perhaps I am wasting my time with this effort. It appears that reevaluation is called for to determine the best path for me moving ahead.
I will leave today’s readers with a final suggestion about relying on the opinions of unknown posters with unknown credentials and unknown agendas.
Do the research yourself and find supporting documentation to settle a conflict of opinion. Posted opinions at face value are suspect in these environments and circumstances. It is my sincere belief that one must never rely on unsubstantiated posts for financial or investment decisions.
.…“Do not be fooled. Your $$$ will be taken from your pocket just as quickly as any other pocket”….
Grumpy Mrs. Smith
Thanks Smith keep posting I follow all your post and usually I share your thoughts.
It is just that the tenor of some posts is an indicator of intent to accumulate additional shares or participate in short activity. Such as what happened yesterday.
You are right. Did not see signs of cleverness…. None for all to see.
Have a safe trip to Houston.
Mrs. Smith
Say what? LOL I'm not sure but it seems you are implying that my curiosity with seeing GSPE's office is an attempt to drive down the price. Thanks for thinking I'm that clever. This is a genuine question. Do you believe enough people read this board to have that effect by a no name poster? I could be wrong, but I do not.
I guess I thought you were implying that most worked from home. My bad.
This is more controversial than I thought it would be.
I do appreciate all comments.
If I remember correctly, 100% of Gulfslope’s management and employees are full time. Delek Group must not have any issues since they keep paying their share of costs. Which I believe they would not do if there were any doubts about Gulfslope Energy.
And I never said that Gulfslope employees were, in fact, working from home.
From my point of view, there is only one reason for all of this. To purposely drive down the share price.
Relax and enjoy your family and friends this week.
Mrs. Smith
Definitely let us know what you find @NorOilGuy1! I agree with Spec and MrsSmith that you are not likely to find a bustling office, but would be interesting if Seitz or others actually go in the office. I’ve wondering many times if this is their primary focus or if they all have other jobs that occupy their daytime hours since there is such low activity that is reported to us. Anyone have any insight on that?
Smith that might be exactly what is going on everyone is working from home. I don't have high expectations for this. One never knows what might become of my venture. I personal have very low expectation. It may be just a drive by.
Spec, thank you for the Thanksgiving wishes. A nice touch. We also wish a Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, and all the dedicated readers of this board. Certainly, the ‘specs’ will keep biting this time of year, especially on the Gulf side (warmer water).
As far as dropping by the office for an activity check, perhaps we are focused on the wrong thing.
In my opinion, the fact that both Delek Group and Gulfslope Energy continue to pay escalating annual rental payments on the Tau lease is a more serious indicator of their intentions.
If in fact they have relocated their offices again, I see that as a prudent and positive development.
After all, considering the prioritizing of funds, I would much rather see them spend the ($100K) on issuing audited financials than continuing to pay office rentals.
If it were up to me to decide, I would have everyone working from home.
Mrs. Smith
There's no need to be in the office other than my own curiosity. The reason for being in Houston has nothing to do with GSPE. I am curious in what capacity the place exists as far as day-to-day business. I may not learn a thing.
No, I don’t have any additional info other than what’s reported publicly
I’m not sure there’s much need to be “in the office” if the are negotiating phase with phone and meetings with potential partners being the main activities
If there were ongoing “operations”, it would be a different situation
It’s certainly worth a try and I have done similar in-person checks on a couple small listed companies myself
But those were in operational mode and actively pitching to investors for raising capital
An email inquiry to Malaga or phone call to the main contact number might get something useful to add context or color to the current situation
Another possibility would be to ask around to anyone in the offshore oil sector to see if there’s any buzz connected to GulfSlope
The ideal opportunity for that would be at a trade show/convention like OTC or Subsea Tieback type events
Keep in mind though that playing by SEC rules requires them to be tight lipped about anything material, in essence almost everything that could be useful in deciding to buy, hold, or sell, would be off the table
The only thing I ever gathered in-person was the tone and body language of the management team and employees
Someone (and I’m not saying who) ordered and had 10 pizzas delivered to a shop at midnight for the workers who were supposedly working “around the clock” to fill big orders for custom equipment
A very nice tip was added with instructions for the delivery driver to estimate how many were working, the general tempo and attitude, and call back to report the findings
It was money well spent in that instance (or so I’m told)
I’m good with holding at this time and I’m fully aware that they might not get a deal together
I do think they’re still in the game and have a solid chance of explosive success
That, and there’s no red flags of an outright scam
I just have a few holdings outside of the bulk of my investments which are in the hands of professionals now
They put my money into boring large caps and stuff that I have no knowledge about, but it’s going well so far, nice dividends yada,yada yada …
All said, the little pool that I still manage currently has a slight edge but it’s a lot easier for me to tune out the constant noise of the market and spend more of my time on family, friends, and living the dream life
Good luck on your inquiry and I hope it bears some fruit
Cheers,
spec
Spec do you have some inside information? I'm planning on being in Houston in the next two weeks. I'm planning to go by the GSPE office to make sure people are actually in it. Maybe someone on the board could answer that for me now. But I'm suspect.
Here’s to good vibes in the domestic markets looking forward to a blue sky breakout in the biggest global revolution in centuries
Even a good dog will bite when it is kicked
GulfSlope is quietly preparing for the chance to contribute to the victory over evil tyrants
Then we’ll have the bluest sky imaginable
Cheers
spec
Those are some robust numbers and they’re solidly backed with data, very upbeat
I may have jumped the gun on Thanksgiving with an awesome day of fishing speckled trout (specs, LOL) that I was very thankful for
Of course that’s just a superficial joy to be thankful for, especially considering the breadth of true blessings that I have received
Wishing you and yours a wonderful holiday and likewise to all who are aboard the “Go GSPE” team
Cheers
spec
While reading the 2024 Gulf Coast Energy Outlook (GCEO) forecast released yesterday, I found these positive comments:
Link to Excellent Slideshow: https://www.lsu.edu/ces/publications/2023/2024gceoslidesreduced.pdf
Link to Report: https://www.lsu.edu/ces/publications/2023/gceo_2024.pdf
* GCEO believes that the global market will continue to increasingly rely on the U.S. as a reliable source of energy and hydrocarbon-based products. This international demand will continue to facilitate investment within our region and sustain another decade of increased production of oil and natural gas. In the long-term GCEO still sees the Gulf Coast as well positioned as a net exporter of energy. In fact, political instability in other parts of the world can solidify the Gulf Coast of the U.S. as a reliable source of hydrocarbon-based products such as liquid fuels, chemical products, fertilizers, and polymers. GCEO continues to see longer-term opportunities for investment and employment growth in the energy manufacturing sectors.
* Gulf Coast oil and gas production rebounded even more quickly than the nation as a whole post pandemic and today Gulf Coast oil production is approximately 8.5 percent above the pre-pandemic peak. Gulf Coast natural gas production is 16 percent higher.
* The GCEO anticipates that oil and gas production will continue to increase, although fewer rig counts will be needed to produce more hydrocarbons. Thus, the industry is expected to continue producing more with fewer inputs, a sign of continued efficiency improvements.
* For perspective, in 2022 (the most recent full year of data available), natural gas accounted for 40 percent of electricity generated nationwide, wind for 10 percent, and solar for less than 4 percent. Renewables share of electricity generation are likely to increase, but natural gas is likely to be the largest fuel source for some time.
* This year’s GCEO modeling will assume that inflation continues to gradually slow to the Federal Reserve’s target of two to three percent over the next few years. Wage growth will gradually begin to outpace inflation, and demand for energy globally will continue to rise. GCEO, much like years past, anticipates that long-run energy demand growth will lead to increased U.S. energy exports, especially to the growing developing world.
* At the time of this writing, oil prices are in backwardation, with prices anticipated at about $78 per barrel by the end of 2024. In the long run, futures markets anticipate natural gas prices to oscillate between about $3.50 to $5 per MMBtu. European and Asian markets have not experienced the same rapid convergence to pre-Russian invasion of Ukraine norms, and this has created a comparative advantage for the Gulf Coast in attracting capital for projects in the processing and exporting of hydrocarbon-based products from the Gulf Coast region.
* Gulf Coast crude oil production forecast is anticipated to increase over the forecast horizon. For perspective, in 2022 regional crude oil production averaged 8.5 MMbbl/d. In calendar year 2023, which at the time of this writing is partially completed, ProdCast estimates Gulf Coast oil production to average 9.3 MMbbl/d, or an increase of approximately 9 percent. By 2032, Gulf Coast oil production is forecasted to reach 11.6 MMbbl/d.
* This year’s outlook identifies $222 billion in announced energy manufacturing investments out to 2030, a number that is 26 percent higher than the 2023 GCEO. The 2023 GCEO identified as much as 69 percent of all energy manufacturing investment to be located in Louisiana, driven in large part by LNG export investment.
* Louisiana is forecasted to gain approximately 1,000 upstream jobs in 2024, or about 4 percent due to the current lagged effect of relatively high prices, and then levelize in 2025 and 2026. Texas is forecasted to gain approximately 8,000 upstream jobs in 2024, or about 4 percent, then gain 2,500 jobs in 2025 (a 1.2 percent increase) and then flatten out 2026
* The Gulf Coast region’s refining sector continues its post-pandemic economic rebound, driven in by export opportunities arising, in part, from the geopolitical uncertainties in Eastern Europe, and increasingly, the Middle East. This year refinery utilizations are reaching levels not seen since 2019, approaching the mid to upper 90 percent range. Refined product trade: past trends seen in last year’s GCEO are likely to continue as the U.S.’ position as a global energy exporter strengthens. Disruptions and uncertainties in global energy markets, including refined product markets, will likely see a buttressing of current strong relative U.S. export positions in global markets, if not some smaller opportunities for growth.
* Geographic differences in crude oil and natural gas prices often drive pipeline development. If prices at “Point A” are higher than “Point B” at a given time, firms have the incentive to develop transportation resources to capture this price differential (or “basis”). Although oil production is anticipated to increase, due to the investment in pipeline infrastructure over the past decade, the need for increased barge and rail shipments is unlikely at this time. Last year’s GCEO questioned whether pipeline additions could become necessary once U.S. oil production reached pre-pandemic levels. Given oil production has just recently eclipsed pre-pandemic levels and is currently experiencing historical highs, ….time will tell whether pipeline constraints will become prevalent in the future. But as of today, markets appear to be in balance.
* Electricity is an important input for energy manufacturing that can comprise as much as 75 percent of ‘total variable operating costs’. Thus, regional electricity price competitiveness is important in regional economic development. The Gulf Coast continues to be a region with competitive industrial retail electricity rates. National average industrial electricity rates, at around $0.08 per kilowatt-hour (“kWh”), are considerably higher than the Gulf Coast composite regional average of less than $0.07 per kWh, which gives the region about a 13 percent electricity cost advantage.
My Holiday starts now. Wishing a Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Mrs. Smith
This is the long stretch until the 10-K which is due end of December (my recent mention of “10-Q soon” was a brain fart, it’s hard getting old but it beats the alternative)
The house passed a CR and as long as the Senate passes it and POTUS gets assistance from his managers to sign it, we’ll avoid a government shutdown until mid January
Everything is fine
Let’s just kick the can down the road for a couple months
Our government is soooo broken
Yet, in all this turmoil, fossil fuels are getting more and more attention from realists
Delek’s leadership must be already planning for post-war priorities and I would think that their geographic diversification plans that were already in motion have been brought to the forefront
Geopolitical risk in GOM activities would be far less than many other locations
That factor is unlikely to change, IMO
Our current policy pressures on the sector WILL likely change with the.next election
I’m still hoping it changes sooner but it would make perfect sense for them to pony up the cash and ink a deal that gets the ball rolling and hit the ground running at the flip
Seitz hasn’t sold the shell for the NOLs and the value of the lease and associated data
There’s still a smoldering ember ….
…. to light the fuse
…. when this dang rain stops
If the cannons don’t thunder
there’s nothing to plunder
spec
Speaking of investors wanting to get in on the E&P Sweepstakes, note that due to the hostilities in the Middle East, there has been record withdrawal volumes from equity funds focused on Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, and Israel.
Capital flight out of the Middle East is estimated to be significant at this time. How great will it be if some of that was to find it’s way to the U.S. GOM? And should that happen, Gulfslope Energy is there to welcome those investment $$$ with open arms and a ready opportunity. And do not forget, Gulfslope’s current partner in the Tau is based in Israel.
If the tensions in the Middle East expand, which is not too remote a possibility, this money will not sit idle indefinitely while those hostilities are resolved. There is also the very real possibility that investment dollars will seek opportunities in more stable locations. So keep those eyes open.
The overwhelming majority of GSPE shares do not trade. Does this tell us anything about these investors? Consider accumulating shares as an investment in the long game rather than only as a trading play. Ultimately, this is where the largest returns will be made, and todays low GSPE share price presents a very real chance to take advantage of a very real opportunity. Recognize that a large stash of GSPE shares could end up being a big time deal down the road. So keep an open mind too.
Hopefully, something to think about….
Mrs. Smith
I agree with NorOilGuy1, that’s a great catch!
Thank you for pointing it out
And I thought that I have been the grumpy one at times, certainly not you
Yet nobody has complained to me (it would probably not result in their desired response anyway, LOL)
Dam them torpedoes, post away!!
Everybody’s views are welcome here
All is good and the strong people who embrace good, will always triumph over evil in the final tally
We’re on the right side with GulfSlope
Cheers
spec
Great info. I had not seen the lease information before. Maybe there is hope.
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