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Proof U.S. investors were duped by Krookstra and Iceman. Gira lives.
http://girasolar.com.tr/en/
Wow. Is Koornstra back?
If so, are my shares worth anything Herr Koornstra? I've been very patient....
http://www.enfsolar.com/directory/seller/8694/girasolar-turkiye
http://girasolar.com.tr/
assume too complicated and not worth it
That's old news. The new news is whether the shell will be revived.
Girasolar b.v. Deventer is bankrupt
http://www.faillissementsdossier.nl/nl/faillissement/585529/girasolar-bv.aspx
GRSR can be listed in the States, but Korrnstra must not care: He declares bancrupty for the european part of Girasolar, takes working parts private and the OTC listed GRSR is a shell - which it is! That simple - and this is what he did.
US shareholder should finally face the truth: GRSR is a dead shell, of course listed, but without reporting etc. - it is a dead shell without any european Girasolar business.
The desaster started with Klamka and ended with a worldwide solar price desaster.
On one hand I can understand Koornstra - on the other hand he is as criminal - without any feeling of responsibility for shareholder, IMO not untypical for dutch business people - like Klamka is. Both should be in jail - but SEC allows such grap by ignoring it.
it is still listed on otc. you can type in grsr on yahoo finance, and girasolar comes up.
There's no requirements for otc grey. The girasolar website linked seems to have only old data.
A dead nothing........and, most important, not a liosted company. So who knows what that is.
Regarding Girasolar Turkey I assume, Koornstra could be part of the management (his wife is from Turkey) - but I doubt this Girasolar is listed.
Our investment in GRSR is lost. That simple.
GiraSolar lives !!!
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Why don t you do it? BTW, you re still here? What for? It s dead forever.
Germany, Spain Set To Pull The Plug On Green Energy
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Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/14/2013 21:11 -0500
Germany
Greece
Iceland
Recession
SWIFT
Unemployment
Over ten years ago, when Europe was a bright and shining example of experimental monetarist "brilliance", and when the money was flowing, the continent decided to do the ethical thing and actively promote the pursuit and development of renewable energy through countless government subsidies. As a result, Germany and Spain became the undisputed leaders in the race for a green future, and both created similar laws to encourage the development of renewable energy. There were two problems: i) green energy, while noble in theory, is about the worst idea possible when it comes to profitability and capital self-sustainability and constantly needs governmental subsidies, and ii) it was the end consumers who would pay for the government's generosity, in the form of a surcharge on electric bills. In Germany, for example, as the industry grew (in size, and thus in losses) demand for the subsidy increased, driving the surcharge higher. In January, the surcharge, which amounts to about 14% of electricity prices, nearly doubled to 5.28 euro cents per kilowatt hour.
And, as the WSJ so deftly explains, "that means ordinary consumers shoulder the lion's share of the costs for what the German government calls its "energy revolution." And here is where a third problem comes into play, because while German and Spanish consumers were happy to pay a surcharge in the golden days of a Dr. Jekyll Europe when everything was great, soon Europe become a doomed Mr. Hyde-ian Frankenstein monster, with imploding economies, 60%+ youth unemployment and resurgent neo-nazi powers. In short: the German and Spanish consumers have had it with funding an infinite money drain (even bigger than Greece), when cash flow is scarce and getting worse, and have just said "Basta" and "Nein", respectively.
Which means it is now a political issue in Spain, where the scandal ridden Rajoy has never been more unpopular, and certainly in Germany where Merkel faces an election in September and can't allow the public opinion to shift against her. As a result "with Spain in the grips of recession, the government wants to lower consumers' light bills. In Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel faces an election in September and hopes to win points with voters by putting a stop to rising electricity bills." Specifically, "Ms. Merkel's government on Thursday proposed putting a cap on the green-energy surcharge until the end of 2014 and then restricting any rise in the surcharge after that to no more than 2.5% a year. The government also plans to tighten exemptions, which would force more companies to pay, and achieve a cut in green subsidies of €1.8 billion ($2.42 billion). The plan is a quick fix pending comprehensive reform after the election, government officials said."
Spain is not far behind:
The Spanish parliament took a similar step on Thursday, passing a law that aims to curb rising household electricity costs by cutting aid to the renewable-energy industry.
Renewable-energy producers "are going to receive less revenue, but these measures are better for consumers" said Energy Minister José Manuel Soria.
Among the changes in the Spanish system, the new law indexes certain subsidies and compensation to an inflation estimate that strips out the effects of energy, food commodities, and tax changes.
Naturally the response from the subsidized industries has been swift and damning:
Renewable-energy companies said that the government was backing away from previous promises that it would ensure them a reasonable return on their investments.
"Spain's government is trying to smash the renewable-energy sector through legislative modifications," said José Miguel Villarig, chairman of the country´s Association of Renewable-Energy Producers.
Actually all the Spanish government is thing to do is stay in power, and in order to do so, it must stop demanding that its people pay for the development of financial black hole industries.
The immediate result of these steps will be a widespread collapse in the alternative energy space in Europe, which is barely sustainable on an "as is" basis (see Solyndra) with ongoing government funding, and will melt as fast as a snowball in the Iceland thermal when the money is even modestly cut off.
Because like all truly money losing government ventures, one can't mothball a project that by definition has to lose money in hope one day it will be a new money-winning paradigm, especially since the imminent deleveraging wave which will hit the world once Chinese inflation wakes from its slumber, will mean conventional energy costs will once again have no choice but to drop (see: "On This Day In History.... Gas Prices Have Never Been Higher").
Yet all this means is that the government will merely have to find other, more creative ways to lose money now that the alternative energy fad is virtually dead. Luckily, spending money with absolutely nothing to show for it is one thing that every government in the current insolvent global regime, has a peculiar knack for. It also means that thousands of former government workers with no real marketable skills are about to hit the streets demanding more handouts from the nanny state, and lead to yet another wave of European civil unrest just as the 'other people's money' is about to run out.
Mr. Fen Peng is barking up the wrong tree. He should try the Warren "Buffet" for lunch.
Warren Buffett’s MidAmerican Energy Holdings Co. (BRK/A) agreed to spend as much as $2.5 billion to build two solar projects in California that are set to be the world’s largest photovoltaic development.
MidAmerican acquired the 579-megawatt Antelope Valley projects in Kern and Los Angeles counties from SunPower Corp. (SPWR), according to a statement today. MidAmerican will pay San Jose, California-based SunPower $2 billion to $2.5 billion for the projects and a three-year contract to build them. SunPower also will operate and maintain the projects under a multi-year agreement with MidAmerican.
Enlarge image Buffett Utility Buys SunPower Projects in $2 Billion Solar Bet
Buffett has been increasing investment in wind and solar farms and last year formed a MidAmerican unit to support the projects it’s acquired, including the $2.4 billion 550-megawatt Topaz solar farm in California. Chief Financial Officer Patrick Goodman said in November the company favors bets on renewable energy amid high utility valuations. California is the biggest U.S. solar market.
“Customers, investors and banks see this as a stamp of approval on SunPower,” the solar company’s President and Chief Executive Officer Tom Werner said in an interview today. “It’s a huge deal for us, roughly the size of our company.”
Sometimes, the stupidity of these penny stock wonder boys always amazes me. Take Klamka, for example: He can basically take control of the shell for a 2 pound Milka bar and a bottle of Rumple-Schnapps, do another pump and dump, make a cool million or 2, us bagholders get are money back...and everone is happy...except the new bagholders. Life is easy, just put your mind to it!
That would make Queen Beatrix shine with envy. In Dutch, a tulip between the legs evolved in to the "Dutch disease".
Has Mr. Fen Peng ever tried Hu Feng spicy chicken with a good dose of Cantonese Chau-Maine?
Nappy New Year Gira investors! I just
got a call from Mr. Fen Peng of Jinko Solar (China). He wanted to know why Weeland is not answering the phones. Mr. Peng needs Weeland to advise him on where the solar market is heading in 2013. So Weeland if you get this, please call Mr. Peng and the other China Solar CEO's. They need your advice and a solar compass for 2013.
Thank you.
Weeland extends his holiday wishes
to all GRSR investors and asks that everyone please be patient while a very explosive 2013 is about to unfold. Please hang on to your shares when the stock price crosses $3.00/share. You won't be sorry (a little Koonstra birdie told me) ;)
Merry Christmas everyone! My Christmas present is a BIG tax deduction on GRSR for this year. Have there been any Koornstra sightings lately? It has been a blast here. I am, who I am, LOSING MONEY HERE. Signing off. Have a Happy Jesus day.
Just talked to Koornstra! He says that the EU budget has gone to hell. FIT's are non existant, so as goes Greece, Spain, Portugal and now Italy, Europe is a basket case. Not even Draghi and the central bankers can do anything about it, complete chaos. Word is that people are going back to farming, wood stoves, and the beatiful smell of pig flatulance. How's that for solar!
HaHa...that's good for a laugh. Great irony. " patent on a process that converts plain old sand and dirt into high performance and high efficiency silicon pellets." You could have done better than that. Plain ole' sand is simply polysilicon. You should have reworded that paragraph, "patent on a micro thin, flexible panel which can be bent, formed over any surface, the next phase of solar panels". Keep up the good work.
Nobody is happy about loosing $$. It happens to thousands everyday peddling in penny stocks. The fact of the matter is grsr is where it's at. Whining on message boards of what a scam won't bring back your $$ or anything else...just a bunch of hot air. If you are so desperately concerned about Koornstra, file a motion to purchase the shell and try to turn it around. Any less is just plain words shooting in the breeze.
There is a close connection between this file of bancrupcy and the behaviour of Koornstra since this file: Koornstra is gone - for everybody who did invest in Girasolar.
I do not believe one single word here anymore. And Koornstra himself has destrtoyed by this bahviour all his credibility which he receive whiole the fight against Klamka. Thus Koornstra proved to be the same pennystock crook like Klamka.
and, of course, I do not believe an anonymus bullboard poster who talk positive today, negative tommorrow, is thrilled in two months and is whining in three months. People have lost thousands and thousand of $$$ here. I think they should receive some respect insteed of dump comments.
According to the filing, the bankruptcy petition was rejected due to lack of assets. Don't know Dutch bankruptcy laws, but in general, a bankruptcy is not a bad idea since it gets creditors out of the way to reorganize. A lot of companies use bankruptcy to gain stronger footing. There can be some validity to O Siggy as China is plagued by pollution problems and the new government wants to get off coal dependecy. Will see what happens
For those who can't remember this reminder about the file of insolvence of Girasolar - in english !:
http://www.faillissementsdossier.nl/en/bankruptcy/507014/girasolar-components-bv.aspx
Why don't you stop to tell us lies? Girasolar is bancrupt....and if it still exists it might exist as a private company without any listing. Our shares are worthless. And, why don't you tell us why Koornstra told you such crap without any reply to your question - I hope you did ask this question - why Girasolar is bancrupt, why Koornstra does not reply to shareholder, why he does not pick up the phone, why he does not react on emails, why the email adress of Giras does not exist anymore, why the phone numbers do not exist anymore,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,etc.etc.
Siggy, stop playing your dump game with serious shareholder and former friends of Koornstra weho have been screwed by him. We really do not need such BS !
I finally talked to Weeland last week....
He's very excited about reviving the public side in 2013. He said the largest Turkey solar project ever is going very very well. He also mentioned having a patent on a process that converts plain old sand and dirt into high performance and high efficiency silicon pellets. He thinks it will revolutionize how solar modules are manufactured. He said Girra will own the technology and offer the best prices ever, anywhere, ever. He said he continues to get calls from all the major China solar company CEO's every week and they ask his advice on where he thinks the worldwide solar market is heading. They highly respect and are amazed at his vision, hard work and successful track record in the solar industry. We are definitely in for a great 2013!
I will keep you all posted.
Aston you said it best. I will leave it at that.
Koornstra does not care. He is the same crook like Klamka! No character, no style, no fairness, not even a tiny gut to contact friends and tell them that he is osrry about the death of the compnay his friends did believe in. But it has been our mistake: In the stockworld no friends exist - just crooks and poor CEO, who do not have had any other chance to make money but by screwing others.
Koornstra has a big mouth, so I do not wonder why he fucked off like that.
I don't post much but I would like to take this opportunity to tell Wieland to go f himself :)
Guess you are sick LOL
That's odd, Wieland has disappeared. Hope he's ok.
I think it's safe to say that GRSR will not be revived this year as it is already November and we've not heard a word from Wieland. I think it will have to be next year then. So, hopefully 2013 is finally 'our' year. The year of the shareholder! I can't wait. This is getting exciting...
That's it I'm pissed...
I'm going to finally contact the SEC about our friend Mr. Koonstra...
Has anyone heard from Wieland?
He's not answering phones or replying to emails. I don't get it. Was it something we all said? Was it something we did? Is he on vacation?
Thanks, it's nothing person. New to trading. Just how I look at things from a different perspective. Thanks
For those who still dream or talk about buying Girasolar at 0.001
Visit:
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The most important ans interesting part/sentences is:
" 05-07-2012
zwo.12.122.F.1316.1.12
Opheffing faillissement wegens gebrek aan baten op 3 juli 2012"
Translation in english:
"Elimination bankruptcy for lack of assets on July 3, 2012"
With simple words: Girasolar does even not have one solar panel left !
Well, and now start to discuss about a great stock opportunity !!!!!
This is kind of an exercise I do to get someone to condense everything I need to know about a stock position into one paragraph. Thanks for the update
I hardly can read such nonsense after reading such statements about shareholder of failurse of micrcocaps and CEOs million times: It makes not sense at all to reply to you in details....nevertheless: Did you get whats going on here since several years? Guess not.
Shareholder here have been thrilled for years, now they even do not have a word anymore since years from the CEO - and the have a bancrupt of Girasolar, filed at the Netherlands. Do you preview your posts sometimes beforeou submit them? Better you do it before blaming longterm shareholder who gave up. There is nothing, absolutely nothing to win here anymore, even not for tiny daytrades!
In which stockworld do you live?
What date did he return your email. Instead of typing out what was said in the email, try posting the actual email if he really did email you. It could generate buzz. People that post negative things about one of the their positions in are shooting themselves in the foot. Why would anyone negatively talk about a company they partially own. You immediately turn heads on potential sales. The thing s is not to lie about your company just speak positively about it. Remember, any company could be days or even hours away from a big break. You don't know what's going. So just because we don't know anything doesn't mean things have gone sour and they are out of business.
You ever had a good feeling about something. That's just me personally. Things take time my friend. We don't know what's going on over there but it's so cheap you can't pass it up and hope for some profit. Forget the numbers and just take a chance sometimes.
haha. all hype. no substance.
This here has alot of potential. solar energy is the future of the planet. I will be jumping on this ship before it sales. koonstra knows it, that why he's so arrogant.
Holy cow! When I went to...
Wikipedia and looked up 'a little girl that does nothing but talk', Koonstra picture came up...
Little mispritn: "However, he lost my respect , BUT NOT because the bancrupty, which unfortunately can happen with a solar compnay nowadays. I just notice his arrogance towards shareholder, nothing else."
If you really got a reply, this means he waste his time to read this bullboard? Otherwise he would not know that you might be 'Siggy' . He should not waste his time to read here, but write a proper little shareholder letter. However, he lost my respect because the bancrupty, which unfortunately can happen with a solar compnay nowadays. I just notice his arrogance towards shareholder, nothing else.
Koonstra finally returned my email...
said to me, in case you didn't catch on Siggy, I ditched my investors 6 years ago, hahahahahah. You're a slow learner Siggy. And a patsy. I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you for $5, interested?
I wasn't sure if he was kidding or not. Anyway, I'm going to wait patiently, as he requested we do, because 6 years wasn't patient enough. He said soooon, good things are coming, I promise. I'm a hard working Dutchman so you have nothing to worry about. Just please don't bother me and please continue to support me and wait a little while longer. I said thank you Mr. Wieland for all that you've done. I guess I will wait a little longer.
Pooor Mud - Siggy made a few BS
posts to try and pump life into this board. Sorry if I got your hopes up. Please keep in mind that Koonstra did this for the last 5 years. I only did it for a few days, and as a tribute to mr. integrity.
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