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Nevertheless I have to agree that theck has a big mouth and plays big friend of Koornstra....but he is not able to deliver any result of any contact to 'Koornstra as we all. This story is dead. Koornstra might be working privately in the 'fields" of Girasolar. But our 'ownership' of Girasolar is zero and gone!
Korrnstra is the same a&&hole like Klamka. He has not been able to waste one word to shareholder, even not to those who have been his friends. What else can be said about such character? A word of sorry about the bancrupty would have done it. But those guys are rogues and cowards without any feeling of responsibility.
The only one who's been dishonest with us is YOU Siggy. You have no integrity and no value to us. Please take your trash elsewhere.
R U Kidding - Theck is the biggest bag holder
We've all been Koonstra'd. Run Wieland Run...
Hi theck, thought you post a note about your phone call with W.K.?
Aston - you are correct, I've been
talking a bunch of major league crap. I've been sarcastic as h#ll in case you haven't noticed. I've been trying to sound like that POS Kooonstra with his years of absolute bullsh@t towards his investors. The biggest f'n hot air talker sheisskopf. I use to wish that one day I would wake up to see GRSR publicly revived again. Now I'd love to wake up and see p@ss boy Kooonstra at my door. What a complete POS p%ssy that man is. And talk about arrogance. Everything was everyone else's fault. And heaven forbid his shareholders would question him and complain about his asinine Dutch approach to running his business. What a cluster f@ck GiraKoonstra was. I hope he's penniless. I'm glad it's over. And if he was a man he'd announce it publicly where he started his mess which ultimately led to the demise of his yak yak yak rooftop empire.
You talk much crap.
But of course you must reply this way. We are just talking about a dead story which is not traded anymore. Rodiculous!. Why shall we 'fight' - it's not worth it. And, by the way, if you are so much interested in shares......buy mine. Just 850.000 shares.....and those I short with pleasure!
Aston - I think you are a
really 'short' selling GRSR stock and just want my shares cheap. Why post all those negative things about the company and Koonstra? Nice try.
siggy, you don't get it! Koornstra does nothing for 'his' shareholder.....as long as he is not available for 'his' shareholder at all!!!! Hell.....I AM one of 'his' shareholder and have had such a close contact to him, that he could have easily tlaked to me and could have said "Hey, R., I am sorry but we have problems", etc.etc. But he is NOT AVAILABLE for'his' shareholder....and I do not get why you guys somewhere in the USA or whereever think that YOU are 'His' shareholder and he talk to you easily like you live just round his corner.
Remember your insulting words some weeks ago about him /Girasolar. And now you are friends again just because you shall have had a friendly phonecall with wonderful news some day in future and ....of course...Koornstra just tells you all those confidental details LOL And freinds of him, longterm shareholder are even not worth to get a email?
Come'on, gimme a break!
Aston - as you know Girasolar
hit some bad turns in trusting certain american hucksters. Koonstra has been working almost endlessly 24/7 to correct those issues. He's not doing it for himself. He's doing it for us, his shareholders. When I talked to him last he had not even slept for 5 days straight. He finally cleaned it up. It took him 5 hard years. Rome was not built in a day! And now two big deals are close to finalizing. The Dutch Wunderkind of Solar had the best crystal ball. That's why many CEO's of other big solar company's call him for advice and direction. Stay tuned for some good news by the end of the year.
siggy, I could have a meeting with W.K. easily by driving to Deventer. But as he does not touch the phone I can't even make an appointment. Whatever is said here, I think there is a very big ? over Girasolar and W.K.
The prioblem is aditionaly: At stockboards like this one everything can be told, and we all know the big lies told about microcaps. Thus, based on the situation Girasolar is since some years, everything and every post can be a lie. Just the question why it should make sence to lie on a dead story, might be a light in the dark. But sometimes people do not want to give up at stockbaords because they can't psychologically....and they do not want to take, that they lost all there investment in a story.
Aston - don't make fun of theck1
theck2 or theck3. He's the only one that does not have his head in the sand. Let's hope he has a positive meeting with WK and will confirm what I've been saying.
"I will be talking with WK a bit later this week to validate."....of course! LOL You guys muszt have a beer every day with him and receive business details whenever you talk to him by an imaginary cell phone number LOL
Siggy, just a couple of days before you did not find one single nice word about Girasolar and Koornstra.....and now you shall have been the only one - even not an 'European(?) - who shall have had received 'eonderful' news, and those who have been visiting Koornstra at Deventer, talking with him for hours in his bureaus, we shall not be worth to receive a word? Stinks..................
Aston - let's wait until we hear
back from theck1. Good things are just around the corner...
Siggy, I think I have been one of the most loyal shareholder who stood by his side. And what did I got for this? He did not reply to one of my emails, he did not reply to one of my phone calls, and the phone of Girasolar at Deventer is dead since many weeks meanhwile. Do you really listen to yourself? He has been screwing all loyal shareholder by not answering any requests about the situation at Girasolar. I do not know which phone numbers you've got, but since he told me by an email that he has married his turkish girlfriend, there is no chance anymore to talk to him. I ask myself why he sends stupid emails about his mariage, but does not have the gut to give a comment to loyal shareholder about their loyality! He lost all his credibility....whatever you guys here try to make readers here believe about dubious phone calls. I do not get which sense this makes: Shares of GRSR are dead without value, selling them is a joke - the bank fees would be higher for Europeans than the value of shares. We EDuropean have to be loyal anyway....even we hate Koornstra meanwhile.....not for any bankrupt filing, nio, for his missing backbone to talk to us. Poor, very very poor!
Mudpuppy - thank you for
chiming in on the subject. Seems to me there are still a handful of longstanding shareholders trying to make sense of the Gira mess. Wieland had a sh#tload of a mess to dig out of and make right. Based on what I've heard he finally has turned a corner. All I can say is... good things are coming to those who stood loyally by his side.
Siggy, I would think you would be the first person to want confirmation from others who also speak to wieland. So it's a bit disturbing that you show such arrogance towards theck who has already said he would talk to wieland to confirm your info and get back to us. I would ask no less from him. The rest of us are certainly not going to take any one person's word on such an important and surprising turn of events if true.
Theck1 - you are.. or were the
biggest Koonstra koolaid drinker. Remember your famous Siggy head in the sand comment? Why do you doubt what I say? You give the impression you know him better than anyone, personally. Why the doubt then? And it would be wonderful if you actually replied to a conversation on this board or a question from a fellow shareholder rather than shoot out a comment then go away for 6 months.
Hmmmm,
Conference on investment opportunities in solar Turkey, Greece, Romania and Ukraine
Conference on investment opportunities in solar Turkey, Greece, Romania and Ukraine
On 02.20.2012
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=el&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpolytexnikanea.gr%2FWP%2F%3Fp%3D5103
GRSR: SEC Admin Proceeding:
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2012/34-67587.pdf
Siggy, I am questioning your feedback as to the large deals and restart of the public side of GRSR. I will be talking with WK a bit later this week to validate.
I did not say he is stupit! A lot of people in the stockworld are not stupid, but might be or get lost characters because of their experiences and life in the stockworld. Unfortunately the first who lose are alwys shareholder.
I prefer a fat lady singing finally a moving La Traviata than never ending promises by CEO, whio have forgotten their friends and supporters.
Aston, Wieland is not a
stupid man. All I can say is it aint over until the 'fat lady' sings. Hang in there. GOOD things to come. Soon.
siggy, Koornstra knows me since long. We have been in private touch and I have received many emails in the past. He always replied when I did contact him. This stopped immediately, and I have to say, sorry, as an entrepeneur I usualy also count on respect, confidence and loyality. Koornstra must know that some of those shareholder, who are possibly closer to him than others - because of personal contacts - are waitingbadly on a comment by him about the latest bancrupt story. additionally, GRSR is not traded anymore, it is at 0.0001 and dead without bids and asks.
So, sorry, for me Wieland became a sucker, who uses Girasolars and p..s on shareholder. I do not give a dime to the crap he told you.
Aston there must be more than one...
phone in Deventer, no?
He's had my contact # for some time now. I have alternate #'s for him. That's all I can say right now.
He returned your call?!? How can he return your call if his telephones is dead/occupied since months
Pity that he does not remember those longterm shareholder who have supported him for maany yeary, and which have been visiting him at Deventer. I have written tons of mails and have been calling about thirty times: No reply, no connection with the phone of Girasolar, no one hasb een picking up the phone at Deventer etc.
sorry, Siggy, I do not believe nybody anymore.....but of course not Koornstra. But I leanred that Koornstra does not care iof anybody trsuts him. He does his very personal business with Girasolar and we longterm shareholder may kiss his a&&.
Wieland returned my call...
Said he's about to close two very BIG deals in two countries. Said he will be reviving the public entity by end of year. Said the bankruptcy was for a subsidiary and NOT the parent. Said he has a full scale marketing and PR company lined up AND additional investors once the deals are finalized. Said his long time investors will be VERY happy and finally rewarded. That's all I can share.
Final question (important or not): Who purchases the shell GRSR now as Koornstra and Girasolar are bancrupt?
Does anybody think Mr. Integrity will send his longstanding GiraSheiss cool aid drinking shareholders an email or similar, stating that he gave it the good ole college try but sorry to say GRSR is formally and completely kaput?
Theck1 (2 and 3) I will appeal to WK's outstanding character and ask that he at least do this. Formally and publicly announce the end. On the wunderbar GiraScheiss website. But I am not optimistic he will get my email because the last time I sent an email it bounced back as un-deliverable. Ein richtiger kut, ja.
Agree. GiraSchiess ist eigentlich tot.
"The company was incorporated .... under the name Dutch Solar BV by GiraSolar BV,....... the name was changed to GiraSolar Components Ltd ....." "Furthermore, almost all stocks sold."
Thanks for confirming my comments. Girasolar is dead.
End of discussion.
Here's what I have - I didn't translate it all
http://www.insolvensys.nl/Faillissementsverslag/Girasolar-Components-BV/zwo.12.122.F.V.02
Date: May 21, 2012
The company was incorporated by Act of October 5, 2004 under the name Dutch Solar BV by GiraSolar BV, established office in Deventer, in whom all the shares were placed. By act of June 26, 2006 was the year aligned with the calendar year. By act of January 15, 2010 the name was changed to GiraSolar Components Ltd GiraSolar BV from the outset been director of the company. The driver of GiraSolar BV is Interdisciplinary and Assistance Services BV, and headquarters in Deventer, hereinafter referred to as ISA. The driver of the company, Mr. WM Koornstra.
GiraSolar BV originally had three shareholders, ISA for 3/7, Girasol International BV for 1/7 end Koen Driven B.V. for about 3/7. Girasol International BV On March 9, 2011 its shares were transferred to ISA. Koen Driven B.V. has also sold its shares to ISA, but the delivery is so far not come.
Profit and Loss - 2010: 346,092 loss; 2009: 169,774 loss
Total assets - end of 2010 1.384.967 - end 2009 1.499.080
Current procedures - no
Insurance - AVB zeikt absenteeism, excess WGA and WGA hole
Rent - sublet office ISA
Cause of bankruptcy:
According to the notice of the driver due to the economic crisis become harder to finance the construction of solar panels to put on. A number of countries, the subsidy on solar energy also greatly reduced or completely eliminated (eg Spain and the Federal Republic of Germany). Furthermore, there is a huge price war in the market for solar panels instead. In 2009 the company therefore forced all but one of her staff to fire and the firm to a much smaller space on the second floor moved. Furthermore, almost all stocks sold.
Activities - interview with director and administrative assistant
Staff
Number at the time of bankruptcy: a
Number of years for bankruptcy: a
Date of notice of dismissal: March 16, 2012
Debtors
Scope debtors: still under investigation
Yield: nil
Inventory Contribution: nil
Bank / Securities
Advancement of ING Bank - 477,295.47 plus interest and costs
Leases - no
Description of securities - lien movables and receivables
Separatist Position - pledgee
Inventory Contributions – no
Legality
Keeping Duty - administration is kept
Filing of annual accounts - 2010: 1/19/2012, 2009: 11.1.2010; 2008: 29/01/2010
Approve statement audit - to determine the extent paid in cash
Improper management - no evidence
Paulianeus act - management fee in March
What I found is official and from May 2012.
Call Koornstra. Get a true statement. Forget the rest!
I just found some new information. I'm translating it now. I will post it later if it confirms what we've been taking about.
siggy, as I said - forget it. I do not waste more time in this dead duck anymore - Try to call Koornstra - if you have got any phone which works - and try your best to find out the truth. It is not me who declared Girasolar bancrupt. It is CEO korrnstra..........why you ask me ? Ask him !
Cheers
Hmmm
Show me the link to where the BV has 'officially' declared or has 'officially' filed for bankruptcy. A few days ago I posted real information about a 'subsidiary' of the BV, GiraSolar Components Ltd which 'officially' declared/filed for bankruptcy. If the BV did as well then it would be public as well. Show me the link. The Dutch Chamber of Commerce would likely have this information too. So is the BV essentially now a 'private' company? Maybe. Can Wieland forget the public GRSR side of the BV? He sure can. Did he? It looks and feels like it but I'm not 100% convinced it's 100% dead, yet.
Sorry, it makes not sense to go on to discuss here. Girasolar B.V. Deventer has been declare bancrupt by Koornstra - officially. Koonstra did disappear and is not available for anybody anymore, espcially for shareholder of GRSR.
Which sense shall it make to discuss about private business activities of Koornstra? An insolvence of Girasolar B.V. = GRSR has resulted in death of the stock GRSR. And those are the shares we hold.
Stop dreaming nonsense !
My point with the articles is that the Solar market is about to heat up again. I wonder if Koornstra and our company GRSR will benefit. I believe it will.
You are asking strange questions with regards on releases which do not mention a person with the name 'Koornstra'.....I can deliver tons of such solar articels without his name.
Fact is, that he has been in close touch with me, as I hold millions of shares. And now he choose to stop all phone numbers and any contact with any shareholder and former friend of Girasolar....and him! This counts.....and nothing else. I learned my lesson within 25 years of investing. Koornstra kicked shareholder our of Girasolar by declaring this company as insolvent. But he still make his private money with the subsidaries.
By the way, still do not know 'when' did you talk to him last?
I still believe...
In Wieland the Dutchman. I don't think it's over 'over' yet. Yes, he can easily make it ALL go away. He has not. Not ALL of it anyway. The Phoenix will rise from the ashes. Or as Wieland put it, the Fat Lady Will Sing again...
correction "He did have the gut to screw his friends also"
...and this is 100% the truth. He is nothing but one of those, who use shareholder as long as they are usefull.....but for him they are not anymore. And he is tired of fighting with Klamka and his holding back papers for the SEC.
I do not believe at all Girasolar in general is bancrupt. It is just 'well-done'....for Koornstra.
When 'last you heard" ?
siggy, Girasolar B.V. is dead as dead can be ! It has been declared bancrupt andso shareholder are ! By the way, included Koornstra. But I assume he gave up his shares as he did not see a chance anymore for GRSR. So he took everything else but B.V. Deventer private! That's the way micro CEOs do it. Girasolar is Koornstras 'baby' and so he might not see any reason why shareholder should participate. The ugly thing is: He did not have the gut to screw his freinds also !
The fat lady can not sing louder than she already does !!!
Does Koornstra speak Japanese?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-17/solar-boom-heads-to-japan-creating-9-6-billion-market-energy.html
Last I heard from Wieland he said... "It ain't over until the fat lady sings".
Most of the other Girasolar-subsidaries in Romania, Trukey, Italy and France still exist. As I said last year: Koornstra might kick out all shareholder by going insolvence with Girasolar B.V. Deventer. so Girasolar is dead only for shareholder but not for him.
Koornstra has never been better than Klamka. He just calculated wrong: Klamka screwe him.....and Koornstra did not immagine this . Now Koornstra screwed everybody involve in GRSR.
Why is it forbidden to shut such criminals?
I accept .05 per share
Anybody want to buy my shares?
.50/each please.
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