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The day Israel gives GNE the ok to drill.
What will the share price be?
$ 25? 40? 50?
Golden cross just happened!!!!
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui
type in GNE
Huge Potential , strong cash liquidity, profitable, strong growth, impressive investors and advisary board.
Company name Genie Energy listed at NYSE
Marcet Cap 180 million dollars
Cash funds approximately 93 million dollars
A summary below followed by articles and interviews to get a better picture of the company Genie Energy and its
huge potential.
The charmain and founder of Genie Energy Howard Jonas has even compared its future potential valuation compared to Exxon
and says if the projects suceed the company could one day be valued to half of Exxons market cap
Just as an indication of its potential ofcourse and not to be seen as a current valuation estimate.
Have 40 Billion barrels of shale oil in its concession in Israel and about 10 Billion barrels in Colorado, the later
together with Total.
The parent company Genie Energy is a retail energy provider in the USA and had revenues of 230 million dollars last year
and grew 49.9 percent Q4 2012 compared to Q4 2011. Showed a couple of millions in profit for the quarter and full year.
This buissness is what is generally known of the company. Just above mentioned buissness and cash justify the marketcap.
But the the most interesting about Genie Energy that not so many people know is its subsidaries were its huge potential lie.
Genie Energy owns 89 % of Genie Oil and Gas (GOGAS)( the other 11 percent is owned by Rochild and Murdoch surely well known to most of you)
and its subsidiaries that makes the enourmous potential.
GOGAS fully owns IEI with its 40 billion barrels potential shale oil concession in Israel and 50 percent of AMSO with its 10 billion
potential shale oil concession in Colorado. The other 50% is owned by French Total.
The pilot project is up and running in Colorado since beginning of March, will last for 6 months before evaluation
French Total pays for the whole oil pilot shale project and AMSO provides the expertise for it. Commerssial producion in large
scale is many years ahead though.
In Israel IEI awaits the final permission to start the pilot project will probably start in a few months from now.
In the concession there are one of the 2 best oil shale concessions in the world and they have choosen the best location in
Israel. In that concession there are as mention potential for about 40 billion barrels of shale oil.
The main problem with oil shale projects is the groundwater that goes in diffrent layers in the oil shale, this problem
doesnt exist in their concession in Israel that is very common in most oil shale areas like in Colorado USA.
They estimate the production cost per barrel will be about 35-40 dollars at commerciell production.
Genie Energy also has probably the best and most expirienced chief scient geologist by name Harold Vinegar in the whole oil shale
buissness. Held the same position in Shell before he left for IEI and holds about 260 patents in the area.
There are definitely some heavy names when it comes to the major share holders in the company or how about Rupert Murdoch,
Lord Jacob Rotschild and Michael Steinhardt.
In the advisaryboard the above is included but also George Bush former vice president Dick Cheney and former
senior vice president for Exxon and other big names.
That also goes for the Israeli front figures in Israel of GOGAS and IEI that will help them gett the concessions and permits for
current and new concessions.
Recently Genie Energy was awarded a concession for oil and gas in Golan Heights (21st Feb 2013) which is a disputed area
since its an occupied Syrian territory in most countries point of view (Israel took it back 1967). The area hasnt been prospected
for over 20 years at that time they only found a couple of million barrels of oil to be in the area before Israel no longer
permitted prospecting in the area due to political reasons. IEI took some samples during their investigation of the oil shale in Israel
and found thoose results together with geological documents that there will be large quatities of oil and gas in the area of
that concession.
Im guessing the next concession they will be awarded will be an offshore gas drilling concession since its mentioned in an article
furthest down by my links. If true it will be by the boarder to Libanese waters (or according to them Lebanese waters).
As some of you know they found one of the worlds largest gas concession in the world in Israeli waters a couple of years ago.
Have googled around the net for several weeks and and could write a long novel about it but I think its better the ones interested
make some research by themselves. Below you will find some interesting links to see the potential, schedule findings etc
Homepage
www.genie.com
Subsidary IEI that has the oil shale project in Israel with potentially 40 Billion barrelss of shale oil.
http://www.iei-energy.com/
FAQ about the oil shale project in Israel
http://www.iei-energy.com/FAQs.php
Murdoch, Lord Rothschild invest in Israeli shale oil
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000602575&fid=1725
The advisary board
http://genieoilgas.com/about-us/strategic-advisory-board/
Investing in Israel’s Epic Oil and Gas Boom
http://www.investmentu.com/2012/June/israel-oil-and-gas.html
Israel may be the world's next energy superpower
http://www.fastcompany.com/1769210/israel-ieis-land-oil-and-money
Investers and their comments / thoughts
http://seeker401.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/lord-rothschilddick-cheney-and-rupert-murdoch-invest-in-genie-oil-gas/
Murdoch comments and general info
http://www.ogfj.com/articles/2012/12/israel-moves-ahead-with-iei-oil-shale-project.html
An Energy Revolution for Israel
http://blog.trade.gov/2012/11/09/an-energy-revolution-for-israel/
General about Israeli oil and gas finds
http://www.myshtetl.co.za/community/israel/israelnews/israel-set-join-world%E2%80%99s-wealthiest
Green peace ex president commenting about the project in Israel
http://www.thecre.com/oil/?p=273
Chairman and founder of Genie Energy say if sucessful valuation may be half of Exxons in the future (almost 1000 bagger)
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsgs.aspx?subjectid=3220&msgnum=30912&batchsize=10&batchtype=Next
Israel’s oil find dwarfs even that of its massive natural gas discoveries
https://quitenormal.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/study-israel%E2%80%99s-oil-find-dwarfs-even-that-of-its-massive-natural-gas-discoveries/
Could Israel Become an Energy Giant
http://www.israel-industries.com/2012/11/29/could-israel-become-an-energy-giant/
Future impact on oil shale
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/rob-commentary/with-its-oil-treasure-israel-gets-a-shield-from-tyranny/article625668/?service=mobile
Interview with scietist at IEI in Israel
http://www.rusenergy.com/ru/read/read.php?id=63027
Israel‘s “Black Gold” – an Interview with Dr. Scott Nguyen
http://www.newenglishreview.org/print.cfm?pg=custpage&frm=99429&sec_id=99429
Fokus on shale oil in the future according to Chairman and founder of Genie Energy
www.youtube.com/watch?v=maRmxFXsoqg
IEI s chief scientist, interview about the oil shale project
Surpriced the result was way better then expected. AMSO has also started their pilot project.
http://www.4-traders.com/GENIE-ENERGY-LTD-9406169/news/Genie-Energy-Ltd-Genie-Energy-Ltd-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-and-Year-End-2012-Results-16536637/
Questions at the hearing tomorrow. Anyone keen on calling in tomorrow at the hearing, gor a few questions I would like to know.
Please add on more questions you may have, if noone calls I will email them
1. What is the time schedule for the new drilling permit in Golan Heights ( many instances that has to be approved before starting)?
2. What costs are involved in Golan Heights concession , bringing in a partner on funding it yourself?
3. Saw a link that IEI is trying to get an offshore gas licence by the Tamar area by the Lebanese territorial waters any truth behind that?
4 Are there any other concessions IEI AMSO or Genie Energy are looking for.
5. An estimate when they will get the full go ahead in Israel for its shale oil project.
6. Been mentioned before about Mongolia oil shale project anything going on there at the moment?
7. At the moment competitors are moving ahead pretty quickly in Lebanan (Shell), when will they have a plant ready for commersial quantities and how will that affect Genie?
8.At what stage will you take in a partner in the Israel oil shale project.
9. What is the longterm forecast on which areas you will be selling electric and gas to and what annual growth are you aiming to achive over the next years.
Pretty incredible Advisory board members.
These guys really caught my eye, I know it's been posted before but I have a little extra info in here.
Dick Cheney
Rupert Murdoch
Michael Steinhardt, well known hedge fund manager, came out of retirement to work for Wisdom Tree. Then later IDT who spun off GNE.
Jacob Rothschild, of RIT Capital Partners/Rothschild Capital Managment. An undisclosed entity affiliated with Rothschild purchased a 5.0% equity interest in Genie Energy
GNE owns 89% of GOGAS which Murdoch, Steinhardt, and Rothschild own minority stakes in.
About 37% owned by institutional investors.
Most to least:
Dimensional Fund Advisors LP
Vanguard Group, Inc.
Kahn Brothers & Company, Inc.
Corsair Capital Management
BlackRock Institutional Trust Company
Steinberg Asset Management
Renaissance Technologies
BlackRock Fund Advisors
State Street Corporation
Guggenheim Capital, LLC
no, I have a moral objection.
Very impressive Board members!!!! Big big money
Good stuff, are you in?
Needs to get thru $7.50 then 7.75 will be next.
I saw it the other day and read what the controversy was about....but can't seem to find the link. Could you elaborate for me?
big news. very controversial.
True, I got a starter position, but
I like the fact that Shell and Chevron and working on the same objective and once a commercial process has been achieved GNE will use/license the process in Israel. Long-term here and I really like the individuals sitting on the board for GNE.
I need to review the information again, but IIRC, if the experimental process of getting the oil out of shale works in Colorado (a joint effort that a Genie subsidiary has with French oil supermajor Total SA), then they can replicate that process in Israel. I believe the timeline of development for this whole process will be at least 5-7 more years from now. This will make a great long term hold, but I'm not sure there is any reason to get in JUST yet. Maybe a small position to start accumulating.
I watched the end of the day, I think this is under slow accumulation.
That is really good news!!!!
Yup, and both Murdock and Rothschild each put in 5.5 million into the company before. It went public and at higher valuations than now.
WOW, check out who is on their advisory board, unbelievable
http://www.genieoilgas.com/strategic_advisory_board.php
Yep, up big this week. Under accumulation with a little volume early each day!!!
Go GNE
Possibly 250 billion brls of oil in Israel? This company has blue sky potential. I'm in!!!!!
This Genie is not in a bottle it's in a barrel!!!!!!
Investing in Israel's Epic Oil & Gas Boom
http://www.investmentu.com/2012/June/israel-oil-and-gas.html
That Israeli ETF (EIS) is trading at over 30% discount to its NAV. Over 20% of it is in Teva. Sounds like a compelling investment idea.
Hi everyone, welcome to the GNE board!
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