First Citizens Bancshares (FCNCA)

[Newtogame]

FCNCB Security Details Other Company Securities FCNCA

Share Structure
Market Value1 $339,477,309 a/o Oct 21, 2015
Authorized Shares Not Available
Outstanding Shares 1,639,987 a/o Jun 30, 2011

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also

http://www.otcmarkets.com/home....type in FCNCB

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may I lean on your expertise?

look at this...http://www.companyspotlight.com/19907/First-Citizens-BancShares-Inc-North-Carolina FCNCB OTC?

look at this...http://search.nasdaq.com/search?q=FCNCB&site=dotcom_collection&client=default_frontend&proxystylesheet=default_frontend&output=xml_no_dtd&proxyreload=1#.VijG0S9dFMs

and finally...http://www.openinsider.com/search?q=FCNCA
(type in FCNCB)

where has it gone? it use to come up. their was 2million of them at 200dollars min

also from the 10k... where are the 10million preferred to be issued

your thoughts welcomed.

[Newtogame]

June 27 2014===850,000 shares went off

Dec 19 2014====171,000 shares went off

Jan 03 2015====274,000 shares went off

March 20 2015==176,000 shares went off

Jun 26 2015====335,000 shares went off

And no insider trading listed for any of that!!!!!!!!!!!

Something smells BAD

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New.

just a reminder of this from May of 2015

http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001209191%2D15%2D038714%2Etxt&FilePath=%5C2015%5C05%5C05%5C&CoName=FIRST+CITIZENS+BANCSHARES+INC+%2FDE%2F&FormType=3&RcvdDate=5%2F5%2F2015&pdf=

Form 3 is an SEC filing filed with the US Securities and Exchange Commission to indicate a preliminary insider transaction by an officer, director, or beneficial (10%) owner of the company's securities. These are typically seen after a company IPOs when insiders make their first transactions. After a Form 3 is filed, future filings of the same nature are filed under Form 4 (standard disclosure) or Form 5 (annual disclosure

something is headed this way from FCNCA not sure who or what.

be well

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http://www.delistedstocks.in/delistedstocks.php


This usually takes place when a business entity goes into insolvency or fails to satisfy the listing rules of a stock market, or alternatively switches to becoming a private business entity following a merger or acquisition. Delisting also happens in the event that a company aims to scale down regulatory reporting obligations, in some instances the stock volumes on the exchange may be deemed too insignificant to warrant participation.

[Newtogame]

Holdings have stopped playing the shell game with shares

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bunch of sticks in the mud over yonder


http://news.yahoo.com/caitlin-jenner-halloween-costume-sparks-outrage-on-091930670.html

someone will make millions

more closely related to the case than we think...lol

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did you notice first citizens is sporting a new symbol for the bank. part of all the changes from this 8k.

[Newtogame]

From FCNCAs latest 8K

On July 28, 2015, the Board of Directors of First Citizens BancShares, Inc. ("BancShares") approved an amendment to BancShares' bylaws which changed the jurisdiction of the exclusive forum provision from North Carolina to Delaware

Boring as hell to read---makes one wonder if they are preparing to fight a hostile take over

[Newtogame]

IMO Franky should have to pony up some $$$$$ for his deeds!!!

[batesco711]

MR FS I've seen you haven't posted in awhile are we almost there? I bet you are getting your big big boat ready!!! Hope all is well.

[Newtogame]

Almost got to envision that--but Nichole told me he wasn't in yet! I then checked with the other bank and they transferred me back to Nichole.

[fredscott36]

...possibly, but kimmy is an innocent bystander, imo..........wethinks the FDIC is driving the UWBI train......100%.......the FDIC needs the tommy mac stamp on the BK POL before money or paper changes hands, imo...................

...but the end is near, one way or the other, imo............we gotta GUARANTEE from a BIG on that premise............trust me, guy sittin' in that chair at 700 17th St. was very, very symbolic........

[Newtogame]

.........kimmy could be selling the NOL, for example and chasing $120MM in actual recoveries.................

[Newtogame]

I refreshed my memory of your posts back on 1/28/2013

Was a very interesting period of time.

[fredscott36]

...FC's sr. legal staff member said to cease and desist associating FC with any and all references to UWB, UWBI, the holdings, jahidi john and all other parties in any way associated with UWB...............then SHE says FC has had absolutely nothing to do with UWB nor UWBI but only that FC purchased assets (and "liabilities" - she said which is false) from the Receiver which at one time prior were those of UWB.............?????............

...SHE said FC did not merge with UWBI, will never merge with UWBI and basically stop the nonsense.................so I am..........USB is a better partner for UWBI............and I never did like caitlyn holding, jr...........jerk.........BIGTIME.......I'd say more about caitlyn but I don't want these losers haggling me.........

[Newtogame]

we're close, regardless......................mayhaps to the edge of a cliff.................but minions are moving paper and computer mice................aimho...........

Is there something much larger hidden there??

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NOL purchase is my own speculation...I don't want to create any huge/massive/gargantuan sell off by misrepresenting a stock to line my pockets

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if their is a NOL to be purchased it cost the cusip holders 15 pennies per cusip per year in interest. at four years that is $.60.. this does not even include assets.

this masquerade needs to end. imo

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On October 7, 2009 U.S. Bank, agreed to buy the bond trustee business of First Citizens Bank, a subsidiary of First Citizens BancShares Inc

this is one of the two that recently merged into FCNCA, I believe.

makes sense that Mr. Gibson is in a USB chartered "chair"

crazy thought....FCNCA pay cash for cusipNOL yet USB issues stock, and yes it is confusing

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15 of june record date.eom

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is it possible that a FRANK BANK merger into a PHANTOM 'like' entity be operational/paid before western united's case is closed? thought being more delays if case is not closed...in your opinion of course

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ORDER GRANTING MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF STIPULATION FOR SETTLEMENT OF CONTROVERSY BETWEEN CH7 TRUSTEE AND THE DEFENDANT GREENBERG AND TRAUIG

motion is GRANTED

signed by the judge 28th may

this board was beginning to collect dust

[fredscott36]

...Mr. NTG: we believe the $32MM is the 2014 apportionment (?) of the DTA.......which could be the 2014 net tax credit from the merger with UWBI (and NOL)......???? ........FC's official response is any litigation matters are confidential and need not be disclosed in the 10Q/K - except as a litigation item.............

...don't wanna get started on the whole fred q. scott theory of relativity...............you know the drill, NTG.....

...as for HIGHLANDER CAPITAL's 16MM-share block of UWBI..........a total mystery....and I have communicated with Highlander.......wouldn't "confirm nor deny" any transactions, etc..................my guess: an entity related to Billy Blair........could even be a GS-related entity.........????.....conspiracy theories ABOUND, sir.......and you know me..............queen of conspiracy theories........

...UWBI is 'sposed to be deader than a DOOR NAIL...........and is also due $3.00 per cusip on the paying agent, FRANK attorney-in-fact signor wire.......??????............too weird, NTG........and some kook on the internet is spreading all kind of RUMORS about western united...........?????......wtf........

...aimho.....................me............88%, anyhoot......

[Newtogame]

Wonder who bought the highlander block?
Och-asZiff that hurt?

[fredscott36]

....too late, FRANK......NO DEAL......sorry.........................

...the UWBI folks ain't dealing with you, FRANK......go away......

...you and JAHIDI JOB KICKBACK JACKBOOT JOHN BOWMAN should not have conspired to WRONGFULLY SEIZE western united savings and loan......

...sure, carmen was disgusted with you, FRANK.......so are the nice gents over at UWBI...................

...lawyer up, FRANK.........btw, BUTNER is only a few miles down the road, FRANK....................ya really want to bunk in BUTNER, FRANK......................???????.........

...BIG MISTAKE, frank.............................shame shame......aimho......................

[fredscott36]

...what say we CLOSE this UWBI transaction, FRANK.........?????.......

...the nice folks over at UWBI, FRANK, will be patient if the DELAYS are due to complications with your PEEPS jacking up the NOL....we get it, FRANK....just get 'er done soon, sir.....TYIA......

[fredscott36]

...gotta track the CNB source of capital.........currently a losing proposition............still not sure there is any connection whatsoever to UWBI/FC.....................guy only communicated with me directly once and that was before the APPEAL drop, etc......

...does surprise me, a little..........putting $16MM+ into a dormant US Bank charter - - in grand junction.......??????.............

...but fishy is good relative to UWBI.........and guy could've gotten banned from banking and guy sidestepped the D&O suit........long settled.................

...FRANK's got bigtime legal tender and a guilty conscience.......and the FDIC giving him directives.....AND the 'settlement' is actually a tremendous business deal for FRANK, if true......nice, imo................

[Newtogame]

LOL no linkage between CNB and FCNCA==funny the First gave up the 700 17th suite 100 address and CNB took over that same address.

Funny that the OCC recast an old charter to put Guy back in business.

Funny that Mikey found a new address as well
Along with Benny

haven't quite figured out the Asset One Marketing Group yet

[fredscott36]

....please give an UPDATE on the UWBI/FCNCAp MERGER, frank.........

...this process is getting dragged out FAR TOO LONG, frank......

...shuffle the dirty paper and merge the two monsters, frank......

...looking forward to meeting with you and HOPE, frank........kinda want to say hello to cousin carmen, if possible.............

...make some noise, frank..........................sooner rather than later, frank......................TYIA................

[fredscott36]

.....Mr. HOLDING, sir: what say we close out this 'western united' matter.................?????............

...WIN WIN for all involved, Mr. HOLDING..........you did make the 'western united' folks sweat.......but all's well that ends well, FRANK (can WE - WE call you FRANK, FRANK......?????)......now that we are corporately married, FRANK.......dat be 'western united' and these funky TRUPS you created, FRANK.....................

...anyhoot, FRANK.........welcome..........looking forward to our first visit to Raleigh - - actually been there many times.......my brother lived there and I the best man at his wedding - Presidents Inn.......had some other banking business in Raleigh, FRANK.........now yours, sir.......

...the 'western united' gents are starting to like you, FRANK.......which isn't easy given what you and Mr. Bowman created............we forgive you, FRANK..........but just you....

...aimho.................

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why fill out a form 3 and not put the number of shares being transacted? an amendment to the filing may be coming soon. just saying

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/s/....stands for signature, I believe.

I found no one by that name yet, but will continue looking

[Newtogame]

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Form 3:These are typically seen after a company IPOs when insiders make their first transactions. After a Form 3 is filed, future filings of the same nature are filed under Form 4 (standard disclosure) or Form 5 (annual disclosure).

interesting, and/or

A reverse takeover or reverse merger takeover (reverse IPO) is the acquisition of a public company by a private company so that the private company can bypass the lengthy and complex process of going public.[1] The transaction typically requires reorganization of capitalization of the acquiring company.

just speculating its more fun than lashing out at folks or throwing in the towel.

[fredscott36]

...ANNUAL MEETING over, DIVIDEND declared.......make some NOISE, cousin frankie......for the nice folks over at UWBI........

...time to CLOSE out the UWB NIGHTMARE, cousin frankie.......for all three of us......be dat, YOU, uwbi folks and carmen........

...you see, cousin frankie, the UWBI folks are NOT going away from the WRONGFUL SEIZURE of their little colorado bank........and those little nobodies got MONEY and LAW FIRMS and are angry, cousin frankie.............and have every right to be, FBH/j.........

...we won't criticize JACKBOOT JOB KICKBACK JAHIDI JOHN.......'cause we iz christians and gentlemen, cuz.......but this PROBLEM ain't going away, cuz....................'til you and venable close the mofo........................understand, frankie....????.....oh, and BUTNER is actually in your neighborhood ALREADY, frank...........very, very convenient, frank........

...love and kisses, frank......................your turn, sir.....

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thirty cents per? loosen the purse strings FCNCA.

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just speculating on an outcome...if this is develops into a SPAC(special acquisition company) then warrants can be issued with the use of a shell..

[Newtogame]

warrant ???

[norweger1979]

Chairman/CEO buys/adds more Class B shares

http://www.secform4.com/insider-trading/798941.htm

[LGL8054]

Two shares for $500.00 or four shares for $1000.00

[Newtogame]

I want some of that Class C common stock!!!!

[fredscott36]

...the UWB settlement is OFF, frankie.............................

...YOU, frankie, dragged this MONSTER out too long.......and now this delay tactic will BLOW the deal........cry to the FDIC, frankie, not me.............................................

...frankie: dude, you are one BIGTIME idiot, imo.............you put your dirty, $30-billion credit union AT RISK and your freedom, imo............to conspire with Jahidi John Bowman steal a little bank in Colorado, imo...............

...carmen made the correct decision, frankie............and BAILED..........carmen doesn't want any part of your filth, frankie.............IMO...........nor do we.........

...tootle, frankie............you've got a big problem........really, really BIG...................aimho.........

[fredscott36]

...how did United Western Bank work out for you, frankie.....?????.....

...the CUSIP #913201109 shareholders did not do so well, frankie.........WIPED OUT completely..................

...lost their banks............TO YOU, frankie................

...but johnnie bowman needed a job and you needed some banks, frankie..............so, hay, make some deals...............this is ameriKa, right, frankie............??????............

...best of luck to you and john, frankie...................

[fredscott36]

...FRANKIE: what's the "deal" with the UWBI NOL......?????...........

...the secrets are out and the mystery is NO LONGER, frankie.......

...the nice folks over at United Western Bank had their bank HEISTED, frankie.............some believe that you, frankie and the honorable former acting director of the OTS, behe Mr. John E. Bowman seized UWB without justification...........oh my, frankie.......dat be a BAD BAD mis-deed, frankie.............

...so, did you buy the UWBI NOL, frankie............in an effort to make reparations, frankie.................???????.......NICE.......

...so close out the mofo, frankie.................TYIA..........

...all comments made herein, frankie are OPINIONS...............sure the F/- ain't mine, though, frankie...........tootle................rum runners in a few, frankie.............................

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?

[fredscott36]

...494,988 shares of FCNCA special preferred stock............

...issued and available for sale per FBH/S, as TRUSTEE..........

...so frankie's got secret stock in which to buy the UWBI NOL via a controlled merger................how nice, frankie..............

...why so secret, frankie...........??????................

...break the news, frankie.............close out the UWBI NOL purchase and we all move on...............TYIA, frankie.....

...oh and frankie:...............do not blow this deal..........the bunks in BUTNER are not comfortable..............

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if frank sr. sold his position recently wouldn't capitol gains eat him alive? unless their is some fancy financial finagling with the sale.


any chance a FCNCA/p (aka special preferred) is actually a bond with the so called 494,988 shares? i.e. income producing property or some type of partnership

thanking in advance.

[fredscott36]

...did Venable LLP screw up the UWBI NOL purchase, frankie.....?????....

...that's two MASSIVE errors in judgement, frankie...........the first was "arranging" to buy UWB, imo.........and then, frankie, you agree to buy the UWBI NOL - - save face and some other assets.................two losers from Venable LLP shuffle some papers.........................get an IRS/FDIC/OCC/SEC stamp and move on......

...so, frankie, WTF happened...............??????............

...should we ask carmen what exactly went WRONG, frankie.......

...frankie, you made need to get a new legal adviser.......this current outfit ain't working so well for ya...............aimho, frankie......