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Is ENZC stock screwed then or do we have hopes of it coming back like before ?
I also have Schwab. Some OTCs with a bad OTC standing that I have been owning can only now be sold, and can not be purchased through Schwab. I hope that is not the case for ENZC when its PPS keeps sliding to lower strips.
In my opinion the BCA with SAGA was never legally completed because the SPAC failed to abide by its own articles of incorporation by missing an extension deadline. This is one of the reasons for the GLD case, and why it shouldn't have been considered a "frivolous" case in the November press release. If the deal were to have been completed, then SAGA would have acquired BGEN and VIRO. The only one that was going to remain at ENZC was Charles as CEO with no assets and no operations. ENZC was supposed to be receiving $30,000 a month from SAGA and Charles was going to be looking for new business ventures for ENZC. Chandra and Joseph were going to be officers of BGEN, Harry an officer of VIRO (I don't remember if Diana was listed as having a position), and Charles was going to have a position on the Board of Directors of SAGA. I don't believe that CCC resigned from ENZC. They did give up their Series A Preferred stock for a BCA that was not completed leaving Harry with the majority of voting shares. This allowed Harry to hold the shareholders special meeting that was press released on 3/25/24 (coincidentally the same date that CCC are listed as removed in the quarterly). I agree that Harry is operating as though SAGA has survived. I don't know how he can do this as a failed SPAC should have been disbursed. Which parties agreed to the Novation Agreement? I don't believe the CCC group was involved in that deal. If Harry was willing to release control of BGEN and return it to the CCC group, that probably would have been part of the Novation Agreement. If BGEN is a sub of ENZC again, and CCC have been removed from ENZC wouldn't they also have been removed from its sub BGEN? I think Harry is just doing whatever he wants at this time and probably will continue to do so while the GLD lawsuit is going on. The SAGA BCA should have been considered invalid and the Series A Preferred shares as well as both subs returned to Enzolytics. At this point I think it is going to take a lawsuit from CCC to regain control of their IP.
I don't know if this is splitting hairs or not, but does that notation refer only to ENZC? It's possible that it's just part of their preplanned strategy that is being carried on by Harry, who BTW is also now devising a new business strategy for ENZC. (That was one thing we were all concerned about post the BCA...no assets, no strategy, right?)
Keep in mind that it was disclosed in the BCA that the CCC group had become officers of BGEN under the new structure, but they had also retained their positions with ENZC. Harry and Dianna became officers of and in operational control of VIRO. IMO, this was to be the end of joint control of ENZC and the start of structural autonomy between the 2 groups, ie, it was the first step toward splitting the sheets between CCC and Harry. Under SAGA, they would both operate independent of each other under a figurehead CEO of SAGA. JMHO.
Seeing that back in September, my thought was (JMHO) that it would only be a matter of time before CCC resigned from ENZC, leaving Harry in control of ENZC, essentially moving on and giving the company back to Harry. The CCC group would have full operational control of BGEN (within SAGA (or not?)) and Dianna (actually Harry) would have control of VIRO within SAGA. JMHO.
JMHO...Whether SAGA has actually survived or not, Harry is operating ENZC as though SAGA has survived and he's in control of ENZC. One additional indicator is the Novation Agreement presumably between all 3 parties, including SAGA, that took BGEN out of the SAGA deal and "returned" it to ENZC. So, that disclosure you posted claimed that the CCC group was "removed" from ENZC, but how about BGEN?
This is my speculation, and others may have different thoughts. Now that BGEN is a sub of ENZC again (reportedly) and Harry is controlling ENZC, maybe who controls ENZC, and consequently the BGEN IP, is what the fight is about and that may center on (1) whether the Series A Preferred shares owned by CCC are still theirs (which would give them control of ENZC) or are they legitimately in the ENZC treasury as reported by ENZC and (2) whether SAGA is still alive or is being propped up by Harry in order to maintain control of ENZC as long as the GLD lawsuit is active. If SAGA is not alive the Series A preferred should be restored to each of the parties. JMHO.
Any other thoughts out there?
Things are well. Still have 1.5M shares so I check in periodicaly, but I made a bit.
Too much to say what is happening here , look up SAGA SPAC and read everything that went wrong from Jan 2024 to current. Again too much to write up and explain. glta
What is going on with ENZC share price ,is it naked short selling, is big pharma killing the company (specially Gilead ), did the mgmt give up, what happened to the merger, could someone kindly share their thoughts, this company has so many things going on, infectious diseases cure, hiv/aids and much more.
The price is awesome to invest in, with what ENZC has to offer.
Thanks
Im glad Schwab didn't change my TOS.
Hey are you still here?
Been using TOS for several years and like it.
DRHUMI, I was reluctant to use Thinkorswim, but after I delved into it, I found it to be a very fluid platform with a myriad of useful combinations of data presentation. Now, I feel very confident in navigating the platform between level II, charts and news. Submitting trades is very efficient as well. There are lots of customizable features throughout, so you can tailor your pages as you prefer. Good luck!
LOL... have not tried Fidelity before, now I may never.
I'm just starting to try out TOS because it looks horrible, but my other broker is Fidelity, and their L2 looks like it was invented when pencils were invented... It's as Plain Jane as you can get.
With Schwab, when I sold ENZC for a massive loss, they wouldn't free up the cash, so I contacted them and they said that was because I was shorting it... I said NO... That says right on the screen that I sold it at Limit... It doesn't say I'm shorting it...
They had to call in a Supervisor who finally unlocked the cash... It's like they pull people off the street that have never heard of the stock market and give them a computer and a headset and hook them into the customer service portal...
THAT is only one example of many, many, many going back a decade at least... Stuck with them because their L2 is excellent... Now I'm going to ditch them unless I can figure out how to work with TOS.
Yeah SS, I kept on it and found this too, just a few minutes ago, thanks. Very odd, sounds like Harry got some spite put into the last quarterly filing. I also think it was just bad management, not pill-farming. He almost won his appeal to get his license back too, that case went into extended deliberations about the search-n-seizure methods used on his records.
Heck, I'll be impressed if Harry can even get the next Quarterly filing done on time, if at all. He sure won't have any revenue to report, and his share dumping I don't think he wants as part of the record, but in the PINKS, he could hide that for quite some time.
It's funny, one of his clinics was pretty close to where I used to live, and the court in El Paso, where his appeal was finally decided, is a system customer of ours.
Maybe I'll run into one of the CCC gang someday and pin them down for more info. I better not hear another 'NDA' claim against what has already happened again.
As not a current part of ENZC, they may be able to divulge enough to fairly bring the shareholders onboard with whatever their plan is.
Who currently owns BGEN? Enzolytics, Inc. did own it, but then claimed that they sold it to Sagaliam Acquisition Corp on 9/30/23. Then there was a novation agreement where Sagaliam Acquisition was only purchasing VIRO and not BGEN from Enzolytics. I don't believe the details of what will happen with BGEN were fully explained.
Page 24 of the recent quarterly report shows that Charles, Joseph, and Chandra were removed on 3/25/24.
I haven't seen it and have said in the recent past that we need to hear from CC.
The person that created the quarterly report decided to include it in the most recent report, while it was not mentioned in the third quarter of 2023 report. I do remember this issue was brought up a long time ago. From what I vaguely remember is that there were two nurses that were essentially running the clinics. From what I remember it sounded more like the nurses were over prescribing, but Joseph took the fall. Again, this is going from memory. If I thought he was running a "pill mill" when this issue first came up, I would have sold at that time.
Page 24 25 26 of the most recent quarterly report
Has there been anything, on paper stating that either Cotropia, Charles or Joseph left BGEN? It might be assumed but I haven't seen it anywhere.
Yeah, I need to go recheck my broker orders, total up what I've put in here myself.!
No problem at all, I appreciate your posts. Just trying to keep myself clear in a lovely-maddening OTC: PINKS world.
My other account is over at E-Trade, which is solid, but I wish they had an interface like Think or Swim.
Did Harry disclose it again or did I-Glow just paste it out there in his usual anger? I was just late to the show on that tidbit.
You may be right, but their current claims were that their IP's may have been assigned to BGEN as a published Sagaliam strategy, but the CCC gang reports ownership remained under those same CCC individuals, not BGEN... AND, that Harry signed off on them leaving with all of those. Harry seems to admit to this.
I'm feeling the IP issue is a done deal, as part of the internal settlement they refer to, that no one has seen the paperwork on, where Harry and the CCC bunch split in finality. (Or so we're led to believe.)
But Harry is sitting with no revenue, and empty promises of SAGA investment to start up a new business. That's bunk. What may cut the legal mess away, is his own starving stomach, and that's pretty big. What seems available on paper, is that the voting majority of shares may come back to the CCC faction, as SAGA shares have to be returned en-total.
GLTA
Right. That was years ago, and it's not new to this board, but it is strange that Harry has chosen to disclose it since he regained control even though Joe may not be with ENZC anymore. That's either something along the lines of vengeance or Joe's still with BGEN and it's still a sub of ENZC. JMHO.
I hope you're right about the trials. I suspect there is more to the story and obviously we're not getting all of it yet. Getting the IP out of BGEN without compensating the company isn't that easy because the patent applications have been assigned to BGEN for a year or two (they became public as attachments to the BCA with SAGA) and their recent revised agreement taking BGEN out of the BCA assigned BGEN with a $160 million FMV. I do understand there are ways it can happen, but they will likely come with some legal risks due to many public disclosures that the IP belongs to ENZC, then later, more specifically, to BGEN, which was and is a subsidiary of ENZC, and the fact that ENZC paid the tabs for the research and their salaries while working on the IP. So, it's hard to image the CCC's can just walk away from a public company with its assets. I'm guessing they need to manage that risk by keeping us happy. JMHO.
Yeah, Schwab is worthless, especially getting rid of their Level 2, which is actually good in favor of TOS, which is garbage... I guess their systems were overloaded from fixing stuff that wasn't broke.
I'm also back to losing patience. It's mid June already.
It's almost a pattern now that after any issue arises , they state something about patience, or NDA, or something similar.
"Move in silence" kind of thing.
Communication is the forefront of investing. We NEED information to determine what is worthy of our hard earned money, and who should be supported.
While I do believe that Chandra is a good person, I'm starting to think he doesn't have the pull or will to actually fix this colossal mess.
It's going to be a hard pill to swallow that I dumped a years salary into this, and leave with a case of beer at the end.
Sorry if my reply sounded accusatory, did not mean it that way. Over the course of all this I've learned not to go on the words and DD of others alone. That said I'm already invested so nothing I can do at the moment, and I look to your information as better than most. Your communication with Chandra has had me less anxious lately but I'm starting to feel leary again lol. Thanks for what you do though, it is appreciated
There are volunteer trials that are readied and planned out, with a new region of volunteers in South America. One reason I think folks have noticed the Argentinian broker connection when checking on the listings of MM's looking it over. I think those are on-hold until the dust clears on whatever CCC tries to do regarding ENZC.
I'm not keeping that quiet anymore. I was unaware of the license thing with Joe C, and it is possible that Charles was either working, or too naive to not deal with Kostiner much earlier in that proposed process. Right now, some proof that Clone3 and Clone7 are really working, would settle all of the rumors and concerns folks would have in staying onboard with CCC.
I was also amongst the minds thinking the SAGA deal was 100% crap on the details, but gave Kostiner the benefit of a doubt. It was early November of last year, when I went back to wanting the deal to blow up, because I could see SAGA was not pulling in anything for funding. I was not counting on the dividend; they had been ridiculously watering that down since July of last year. I never believed in the dividend.
Chandra changed my mind with direct communications. His story is not full of holes, but its absent any responsible solid proof.
I-Glow pushed the license issue back to the forefront, and as I said, Joe Cotropia's resume is equally as impressive as losing this license was bad. I'm just tired of the shadows Stillmore, want some sunlight on this thing fast. My investigative reporting instincts are taking over again, and while I don't think its all bad here, there's a lot of chips in the paint job, if you know what I mean.
Chandra resold me in early May, and I better not have been duped.
GLTY
Can’t wait to see this back in trips! Exactly where it belongs and always should have been!!
Quite the change in morale there huh? I thought it was known about Joseph and his medical license. Strange that this is coming to light again. I also thought there were trials taking place?
docsetc, It appears his brother, Charles, is trying to fulfill Joe’s aspirations. Admirable in that. I’m willing to wait and see if Charles can pull all of this back together, get his brother’s work legitimized and then monetize it for the benefit of all.
It seems, from my research, that Dr. Joseph P. Cotropia, (There were 3 different Dr. Joseph Cotropia's practicing medicine in Texas during that same time period, (2014-2019). Joe P, Joe J, and Joe-nmn-Cotropia.) and it was indeed Dr. Joseph P. Cotropia who's licensed was revoked for alleged mismanagement of two pain management clinics in or near the Houston, Texas area.
The only time I-Glow has ever posted something even remotely connected to a fact, seems solid. I sure don't like it, but facts are facts. Wish I had known this sooner, I'd have asked Chandra directly about the business relation when I had him in contact. It took a lot of searches, but Cotropia v. Texas Medical Board says it was indeed Joseph P.
All of Joe P's resumes, and professional histories online, have been scrubbed. His timeline reads like a masterwork of top positions in both the state, the USA and abroad too. Like he'd never have time to even step foot in a pain management clinic, much less have 2 of them. They seem to leave out his 2012-2015 pain clinic official position.
Unless there were two Joseph P. Cotropia's in Texas during the same time frame. With a story as weird as Enzolytics, who knows.
However, Dr. Joseph P Cotropia's record is also very impressive as to his research credentials and experience with mABS projects and even specialized, molecular cancer research positions.
Just by his professional record alone, I'd hire the guy to be part of my biopharma team, but what I-Glow says there about his losing his license seems legit.
However, I am alarmed he's part of what may be ENZC to come. Suddenly to me, I-Glow's last email you replied to has me worried on the other side of things again.
I feel I'll have to call Chandra directly this time, ask him to provide some creds that Clone3 and Clone7 are really working as well as he claims. I hate the back and forth on what's best to believe here. I also found it interesting, that during both his license loss in court and his appeal based upon the initial investigator's search parameters, his brother Charles did not represent him at either trial or hearings. He had a different lawyer. Since this event, he's been with Bioclinetics and ENZC with no pause in his work resume.
Can't get our money out at this low a pps, so I'll wait and see.
GLTY
Fingers crossed too.
From your mouth to gods ears
I think it could be faster and more decisive early on. They've got dirt on Harry, exposure to leverage, and Harry's going broke, or has already. It's in his best interest to just turn it over to CCC. Defrauding investors with PR's mentioning upcoming Sagaliam investments is enough fraudulent activity to get him in court all by its lonesome.
Don't be afraid of the legal, some legal is cut and dry, and a fast settlement is signed. Harry wants money off the thing, and I think he's going to be shown one way to get it. No one else has any claim, including Harry, to what Charles and Chandra have independently owned now.
GLTA
I suspect it will be a legal blood bath between Harry and the CCCs. I dont think Harry will ever want to give up his ATM machine that easily without many legal fights. We, shareholders, continue to be tied up in the forever legal entanglement
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It was just part of the pump.
IG
I-Glow, Don’t sugar coat it… tell us what you really think.
This statement isn't reality based.
"I’ll wait until the current Zhabilov faction implodes, and control is regained by the Cotropias."
Joe Cotropia had his Medical license revoked because he was operating a Pill Mill.
Charles Cotropia is a failed CEO - he had his chance at ENZC - but the facts are it was setup as a share selling scheme from the beginning.
I found it pretty funny at how many fell for the SAGA deal. Cotropia was complicit with Kostiner in the SAGA scam.
Every ENZC shareholder was counting their money from the big dividend.
I told everyone when the SAGA was first pumped - it was fake and would never come to fruition.
Another group of scammers will take over the shell and extract more money from novice.
IG
Agreed, Jim. Good to hear from you.
Chandra is another conman - he hasn't developed anything AI.
There are 2 patents and they are worthless - they are from 2007 and 2011 neither have been monetized.
A drug patent is meaningless without FDA approved clinical trials.
Has Chandra applied for a patent for his AI?
ENZC is a Zombie ticker.
IG
Good to hear from you Jim! Things going well!
Yea, def unacceptable to be down for this long when people have money on the line during market hours.
Yes, I just checked on that too. Maybe need to close that account out. It's one of two investor accounts I have ENZC shares in. The other being ETrade. I don't like getting cut off from my money or shares for even minutes at a time.
Just saying it’s def a Schwab issue, the Schwab app is down as well.
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Press Release July 20-2021
Enzolytics Announces the Signing of a Letter of Intent with Creative Biolabs, Inc.
for Licensing and Commercialization of anti-HTLV-1 Monoclonal Antibodies
https://www.creative-biolabs.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/enzolytics-announces-signing-letter-intent-113000339.htm
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Press release July 21-2021
Enzolytics and Lonza Bioscience Combine Technologies to Fast-track Development and
Production of Anti-HIV and Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Monoclonal Antibodies produced by Enzolytics
https://www.lonza.com/
https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2021-07-21/enzolytics-and-lonza-bioscience-combine-technologies-to-fast-track-development-and-production-of-anti-hiv-and-anti-sar
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July 22 INTERVIEW
with
James Hicks, Charles Cotropia and Gurav Chandra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdljO9VLgj0
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COLLEGE STATION, TX August 25, 2021
Important Excerpt from this news progress update.
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"The monoclonal antibodies being produced by Enzolytics against the CoronaVirus target 19 conserved immutable sites on the virus, sites which the Company has now confirmed are conserved sites not only on the initial virus strains but also existing in the Delta and Lambda variants, as well as in the Alpha, Beta and Gamma variants."
Enzolytics Inc. and Samsung Biologics Announce
Development and Manufacturing Agreement for Anti-
HIV and Anti-SARS-CoV-2
Important Excerpt from this news progress update.
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"Samsung Biologics (KRX: 207940. K.S.), a leading contract development and manufacturing organization and Enzolytics (ENZC), a drug development company committed to commercializing multiple proprietary therapeutics to treat debilitating infectious diseases, announced the signing of a strategic CDMO partnership agreement."_______
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