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Great for you but it all depends on if DTRO has anything going for it.
Right now alot of speculation is all I see which doesn't make money.
We need communication on the FACTS from Larrucea and where the company stands.
Right now we are on the chill list, default on paying the annual filing fees, a r/s that failed and a debt over 7 million dollars and maybe growing.
jmpo
Question for anyone. If you were CEO of a F500 and contracted with another company for a patent. Do you think going on 20 months is a bit long ?
If not why ?
jmpo
thanks for the pumpers last week.
i just doubled my shares with out spending any extra $
TJG, this question is for you. You appear to be very intelligent.
If you owned a legitimate company would you hire someone with a criminal background as your IR ? If so, why ?
just a hypertical question.
jmpo
There's no BUYING going on NOT even ones closely related to the company.
Doesn't that make one wonder ?
jmpo
Latrod, have you asked Crimi about the following :
why the chill order ?
why hasn't Larrucea paid the annual filing fees ?
why Larrucea hasn't released a pr of explanation of the above ?
who is the new PR firm ?
What happen to the reason Crimi told you the r/s was to " clean up share price " that failed.
many many more
jmpo
Silence is golden by Larrucea and he knows that. Divide and conquer and you remain on top.
jmpo
I guess Larrucea and Kaleidoscope don't communicate at all, YEAH RIGHT. If you believe that I tell you more.
Of course not, Larrucea only owes Kaleidescope over 3 million dollars, lol
jmpo
Recognition ? what recognition, it didn't hold at all. If anything NO new investors would buy into this company once looking at the history of it.
Don't forget the r/s was done to clean share price up to attract new monies and you see what happened with that bs.
jmpo
Larrucea has no respect nor any interigity with it's shareholders.
Larrucea has proved time and time again he could care less about shareholders.
Larrucea has done alot of underhanded things to it's shareholders.
Larrucea's character towards shareholders leaves alot to desire.
For him not to even come out with an explanation of why he hasn't paid the annual filing fees or why placed on the chill list leaves alot to wonder about his goal. He makes it very difficult to believe in hiom or the company.
jmpo
Do you honestly believe that Kaleidoscope would pay for a P/D if they felt confident that DTRO had anything good at all ?
I personally don't.
After all they are owed over 3 million dollars by Larrucea and would know if there was anything positive coming out or if at all.
jmpo
I am not denying that it generated some recognition, nor am I denying there are new bag holders, granted I would rather be a bag holder at .08 than at .18, but that's me. However that little recognition is meaning less without the company coming through.
I also suspect most of the new bag holders will be dumping their shares rather than sitting and waiting for news, since they bought cause of a scam pr vs any idea what the company potential is.
As to gains, sure most shares traded lower than the high of .08, but I am guessing those in the know bought in over the couple days before and then dumped them close to the high.... heck even if they only made 50% off of the pump and dump, it is still insutling to watch while the company does nothing for those of us that have been waiting for them to live up to their potential.
I agree with you on what the company is doing...but if you take the time to look at what happened on that day...none of them made the kind of money your talking about.
Look at how it traded... it closed the previous day at .025 on 1300 shares of total volume....it opened the day of the pump at .031 and with no buy in excess of 15000 shares and only 2 at that size the rest all the way up to .08 for two buys...were mostly 5000 shares with a few reaching 10,000. 80% of that days volume was between .05 and .065... and the buys out numbered the sells by 5 to 1.
No the only ones selling were the few who had bought in the previous few weeks at .02 to .035.... What we now have in reality John is a new group of bag holders who are now in the RED like the rest of us...
It was a recognition pump only...and a lot of folks put it on their radar... But as far as the company goes, you are 100% correct, it BS that we have all been sitting here for this long, with nothing to show for it... I would love to see our CEO thrown out on his back side...and one day it will happen, either by him losing his company or from it becoming a success in spite of him and shareholders voting him out for his lack of knowledge on running a public company... There is no question he is the worst CEO I have seen run a legitimate public company...
Why March, I am thinking after all this time Feb 28, 12 would be a great time to release some news. This ongoing bs is a friggin joke.
I personally find it very insulting to see a group of pumpers, come in for a day make 150 - 200% gains on their short term scam while the rest of us have been sitting here waiting for the company to produce.
Sorry but it's bs what the company has been doing to it's long term investors, I don't care how you look at it, this is bs.
I agree with you as far as they did not get to their objective on the volume to sustain a big run up.
They did get the stock noticed and that is what they really were trying to do IMO.
Kaleidoscope is no different they you or I when it comes to knowing the actual facts about DTRO. They know that everything they have been working on will be coming to market sooner then later...the Titan project, the growth of Elasco, the F500 deal...and they may have a better inside track on when it will happen then we do...
So they paid for this little pump... put a nice up tick on the chart and now will sit back and let the company do the work...once that happens Kaleidoscope can sell off into a real run. Thats how I see this going.
As for some who want to talk about us now being down by this percentage amount...a one day anomaly from a pump hardly makes it worth while to mention that we are down... because we should have never been up to begin with ...real investors know that...
Just speculating here, we know Kaleidoscope wants their money, far
as I can tell they paid for the DTRO being pumped I dont think they reached their objective, so
I beleive they may try again, maybe with PRs from DTRO to help out!!!!!!
Many of us who have traded in these types of stocks called for this to be down after the worthless Pump was over.... I said in 4 posts we would return to the closing PPS of the day before the pump...the stock will settle back to .025 and we will once again stay there.
No crash as you and others have predicted...but just back to drifting between .025 and .035 until we get real news...(which is coming...wont be long)
Trending Down ... 44% Down today alone.
jmo
wow, I never realized that .03 was worth more than .08 which was the high the pump and dump got to on Thursday.
So you are suggesting that .01 would be a really good price to reach?
march of which year
just kidding
March would be a good time for a couple of PRs...
No dump here.Trending up.
Up we go.Up 200% since December.
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Larrucea, you know it's been alledged that your company ( DTRO ) was placed on the ( chill list ). But yet to date you don't have the decency nor morals even to inform the shareholders what your opinion of it is nor why.
Larrucea, you also haven't paid the annual filing fees, I like many other shareholders would like to know why ?
Also why did you have Crimi tell shareholders the UN-ANNOUNCED r/s was to clean up the share price ? Since r/s other than the P/D was,the share price decreased by 90 % ?
WE NEED AND DESERVE AN EXPLANATION.
JMPO
And the dumping begins.
Vaas I hope you didn't try and slap the ask this morning. Be patient, by Wednesday at the latest if things stay as they are you will be able to pick up shares at .02 again.
IMO
Crimi, what's the name of the PR firm ? A month or so ago you claimed Larrucea was looking into hiring a private PR firm.
Once again what is the name ?
Crimi, is it true, one'a past behavior is a true indicator of the present and future behavior ?
If so, you have no morals or values.
JMPO
Larrucea and only Larrucea can get the PPS to rise and that's with a JUICCCCCCCCCCCCCY pr.
Very hard to overcome a 7 plus million dollar debt.
The reason for r/s was a total failure, down about 80 % post r/s.
jmpo
I want to stress that once they get revenue from Blu Vu we will be in great shape. The SS is still pretty good. They invested more into Blu Vu then they did Elasco. (if I remember right) If they can get the same kind of revenues in than we should be doing all right. They need to start selling those suckers!
Also they need to release the name of the Fortune 500 company. If they can announce that along with revenue from Blu Vu, this may be able to hit around .50-1.00 range.
absolutely my friend
good luck to everyone here
many have been here for ages and deserve a chance for a happy ending
and if DTRO comes through, they can afford many happy endings LOL
If I wanted to make $$$$ on the pump I would have sold my 2s and 3s ism waiting for a bomb and make more... i am glad that we have members that share dd here.. gltu. And all us longs,for the bomb... dtro
got u my friend
all is well in DTRO land
last few wks we've found out through some of latrods good DD that things are working behind the scenes and that's all good enough for me
gltu
My point is that dtro has to come out with a good pr to a lot..,the peeps that are stuck or cant buy dtro dont have a good broker if you want trade that's the price... its a dumb deal with this chill but there's really nothing dtro has to do but to get a solid pr out and peeps will come... lack of communication hurts dtro... ir does nothing for us but tells us what we want to hear... I got dtro because they been in buisness a long time and they great products so they have a bump doesn't mean they wont come back... I have to wait and I will until they have a pr that has meat that tells us what there direction is going... dtro
no i'm not claiming they won't have volume
but if you want to buy and can't
well u can't LOL
happened to me recently
i was all set to buy into one on a Monday only to find out my broker would not allow me to do so
i would have to go open another acct and i have yet to do so
so it's been a month now and i still can't buy
this is the point i'm making
not saying there won't be volume, but if you have say 3 brokerages which do not allow trading DTRO, well they won't be able to trade
that is simply my point
don't think i'm wrong in that if u can't buy, u can't buy LOL
symantics anyway
gltu
I dont think you check a stock that I have had for over a year they trade in the mil daily and as high as 200 mil with a good pr so no you are wrong dtro sends out a pr with updates with fortune 50 it wont matter.. Dtro
really
the main negative which i can see, and i too have seen some other stocks run pretty wildly, even when chilled
is that there are a few brokers who won't allow it to be bought
and so you do lose any of those folks which might want to jump in and cant', therefore slowing down momo
other than that
news trumps all
the one thing i know as fact is
that if you are going to try to get removed, you need to have your house in order
no hanging chads
nothing left to interpretation
then it all depends on why one was placed there to begin w
surely a positive in every respect for us
better than the same old same old
It all depends on what DTRO does in the next few days I believe as to whether or not this is a good thing or not.
If and I stress if since their track record on this is pretty bad; DTRO comes out with some good news then there is a chance that it will hold interest and generate more volumn and a rise in pps.
However, if they continue as they have in the past and remain silent then the bag holders from the p and d will get anxious and start dumping shares. We will see the price go back down to where we were before the pump.
As long as we are in a holding pattern waiting for news this will be a perfect place for pump and dump scams like we just saw.
Really low float, cheap price and a few long term bag holders with a pps sitting a 1000% plus higher than the the current trading level.
Since I am pretty confident that we won't hear anything from DTRO anytime soon I see this dropping back down to around .02 and coasting along until the next p&d comes along.
Hope I am wrong, but this company's history is not suggestive of anything else.
I have never seen one either always heard about it.. it was nice to see the volume as far as the chill if dtro comes out with big news it wont matter look what happen with this little pump.. it proves my point in the past we can move fast to 4 acouple resistance in 8 we move up.its up To dtro to get a big pr with big news that's what I will wait for that's what I been waiting for all this time... dtro
To learn about " chill order " go to message board titled " the real DTCC discussion "
For now Larrucea has too many negative things going against DTRO.
1. the debt of 7 million dollars and maybe much more.
2. In default on paying the annual filing fees.
3. now being on the chill list.
4. The failed purpose of the UN-ANNOUNCED r/s
5. we have a CEO ( Larrucea ) who could care less about the shareholders. In 2010 when he was pumping DTRO up he released 23 pr's in a 5 month period since then 4 in 15 months.
Either Larrucea is a down right crook or he's a man of few words now and waiting to surprize us with a JUICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCY pr.
It will take alot of revenue to overcome the 7 million dollar debt.
jmpo
You are totally correct, it takes a long time,it's costly and results aren't good at all of getting off the list.
Since 2008 only companies were sucessful in being removed from list.
jmpo
Not sure, but on another board where the stock is also chilled, some very knowledgable people say that getting removed from the DTC chill list is very difficult...takes a long time, can be costly, and is OFTEN unsuccessful. Now my thought was that many of the stocks are scams and don't even try to be removed thus the high percentage of stocks that are never unchilled.
If anyone has other info on how getting off the chill list is accomplished, I would love to hear it.
Exactly...despite the pages of posts (I had never seen such a pump before), it generated 100X the volume we had been seeing, doubled the pps, and best of all opened some eyes to DTRO's potential. All we need now to get this puppy rolling is some GOOD NEWS!!!
If they can get revenue from Blu Vu we should be all right here. They invested just as much into that thing as they did elasco. The increase in debt is because of that investment. Hopefully we can get some revenue flowing from that. When we do, things should get pretty interesting.
A lot of good things could be happening here soon. Im hoping that once the dtcc chill is over that we get stellar news.
or split it or space it V
put in orders starting at .05 then 04 then 03 and you can also increase them on the down side, that way if you get a few 05s and it goes up, u nailed a few and if it goes down, you're not buying all of them there
there's a few dif ways to approach it
and all depends on your faith here in DTRO and also ones interpretation of the Pump last wk
thanks for the suggestion. may be i will wait for my buy order to be filled @0.03
Glad your here also. What I liked about the pump was the spike it got with no news tells me that Dtro is on alot of peeps radar already. And now after the flurry do there own DD and see the future of DTRO.
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