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You make similar claims on all boards that you post on, really no new material, just recycling the same crap.
You actually post 4 times today alone, and the day isn't over yet. I'm sure you have a few more posts in you tonight.
Again, I am averaged at 2 daily posts and that's a verifiable fact. Why are you deflecting. Only an imbecile or someone with low morals would argue that I'm paid to post.
I'd probably leave your OTC turd alone if you didn't make such assine claims. Maybe every now and then pop in here or there.
I invest my own money...
You are just proving my point. You admit you have zero interest or ownership in CLNV, but here you are posting after-hours throughout the night. Do they pay you overtime for after-hours post?
Is someone paying you? You are the true definition of a stock basher.
Actually, I am an investor in the company. That is why I post on this board, because I have skin in the game... You, on the other hand, never say anything positive about any company, and yet, you live on stock boards like CLNV. So the question is why are you here? Is someone paying you? You are the true definition of a stock basher.
What Is a Stock Basher?
The term stock basher refers to a person who engages in market manipulation to make the price of an asset fall. Stock bashers rely on misinformation campaigns to decrease confidence in a stock, leading to an undervaluation of that security.
In some cases, a stock basher may have a position in the asset which benefits from a fall in price. Stock bashing is illegal, which means that anyone caught engaging in this act may be subject to fines and prosecution.
Understanding Stock Bashers
A stock basher is a person who manipulates the market by repeatedly spreading false or exaggerated claims against a public company in an attempt to devalue a stock. They often claim to have inside information on specific stocks or make hyperbolic claims about the future performance of a stock. Stock bashers create misinformation campaigns and tend to target stocks of smaller companies rather than widely-held stocks because the markets are more easily manipulated.
In most cases, the stock basher will directly benefit from market manipulation by spreading highly negative rumors. The hope is that investors will believe the false claims and sell their stock before it fails. This allows the basher and their backers to purchase the stock and reap greater gains. While this seems to be the primary motivation for most stock bashing, some analysts also speculate that some bashers may be former employees or stakeholders in a company pursuing revenge
KEY TAKEAWAYS
A stock basher is someone who manipulates the market to cause a drop in asset prices.
Stock bashers disseminate misinformation in the hopes that investors will believe the false claims and sell their stock before the price drops.
These individuals often target low-priced companies that have little to no available information on the market and may have positions in assets whose prices fall.
Some bashers may act alone or in groups or they may work on behalf of other individuals.
Stock bashing is illegal and may be subject to fines and prosecution.
Understanding Stock Bashers
A stock basher is a person who manipulates the market by repeatedly spreading false or exaggerated claims against a public company in an attempt to devalue a stock. They often claim to have inside information on specific stocks or make hyperbolic claims about the future performance of a stock. Stock bashers create misinformation campaigns and tend to target stocks of smaller companies rather than widely-held stocks because the markets are more easily manipulated.
In most cases, the stock basher will directly benefit from market manipulation by spreading highly negative rumors. The hope is that investors will believe the false claims and sell their stock before it fails. This allows the basher and their backers to purchase the stock and reap greater gains. While this seems to be the primary motivation for most stock bashing, some analysts also speculate that some bashers may be former employees or stakeholders in a company pursuing revenge.
The purpose of stock bashing is usually to drive down the price of a stock so that the stock basher or their employer may purchase the stock at a lower price than it would otherwise be worth.
Stock bashers may target an investment firm that has notes that convert for more shares at a lowered price. If shareholders can be convinced that their holdings are worthless, and bashers can drive down the stock price, the investment firm receives an increased amount of shares. When the stock conversion completes, bashers who have acquired shares through this means will typically sell quickly as prices rise. This is sometimes known as a pump and dump scheme.
Bashers may act alone, with others, or on behalf of one or more individuals. Regardless of who motivates them, the actions that stock bashers take are an unlawful form of market manipulation. As such, they carry significant legal repercussions. This includes fines, penalties, prosecution, and even jail time.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stockbasher.asp
Hey, this sounds a lot like you.
Stock Pumper's Manual
I’ve personally not shorted a stock at this point, but I do sometimes buy PUTs or enter into bearish option strategies (which I guess, technically, is similar to shorting). I do, however, believe that retail-pumpers cost retail-longs a lot more than retail-bashers ever will.
How to recognize Stock Pumpers on Message boards, newsgroups and in chat rooms A counter discussion to the “Paid Basher’s Manual” found on http://www.novakcapital.com/bashers.htm
LEARNING is a process and an evolution. Learning is not all fluff. Learning is a process of awareness and unfolding development; one must be willing to work at it though.
A year ago when I asked broker friends of mine if the internet message boards will have any affect on a stock. They ALL laughed at me and said those idiots having an affect on a stock!
A truth: IT IS EASIER TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO SELLING THAN IT IS TO INFORM PEOPLE INTO BUYING A STOCK. But once they’ve committed their money to a stock, it is much easier to keep them holding on to a losing position than it is to scare them away. Its human nature to hate to lose, and if you sell a stock at a loss, you are admitting that you made a mistake when you bought it..
Well I asked those same friends this last week, and the answer from all YES! message boards and ""shorts & longs" (some) can manipulate with lies, and deceit.
Now think about that, you have elderly that invest and find their way to the message boards only to see false posts about “the next big move”, claims of insider information, or justification for a future by out. Or you have a Yuppie with a kid to put in college going to these message boards only to see posts by 15-20 (probably 5 or 6 under alias) "pack of pumpers", or even 1 main “shepherd” leading his flock of “sheep”… all are posting the same false information about the news that is about to be released. What do you think they will do ?
Or
It's easier to sit on (or hold) a stock than it is to admit that one has made a mistake when they purchased it in the first place – especially at a loss! THAT'S WHO THE PACK OF PUMPERS PRAY ON AND DEPEND ON. They want the stock to go up, but don’t believe that it can under its own power! Understand? And they have just as much money and risk as you. But they have the edge of fear, lies, falsehoods to post and to keep others holding their positions which they hope will minimize the drop in the stock price.
Lesson 1: Remember, PUMPERS NEVER PUMP A GOOD STOCK. Watch the board for stocks with strong potential. They never have any pumpers. Pumpers only go after stocks that are going downwards or have excellent potential to go down. Pumpers get left behind, so they want to bring the price up.
Lesson 2: PUMPERS BRING UP OLD NEWS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES. All companies always have a few bits of good and bad news. The pumper will post the good news over and over again. The stupid pumper will try to make the old news a bit fresher to try to fool you.
Lesson 3: PUMPERS POST MANY TIMES A DAY IF THE STOCK PRICE GOES UP, BUT MAY GO SILENT ON DAYS WHEN THE PRICE PULLS BACK. Pumpers can answer every question except those that involve facts that are contrary to their position. There is no negative comment they won't bash. They try to control the board. When all else fails pumpers resort to personal attacks against those who don’t support a stock.
Lesson 4: PUMPERS WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE. Never trust a pumper. The truth on all companies is that mistakes are made and losses happen, and things go right and profits happen. The pumper will try to make you believe that the company they are pumping can only make minor errors... THIS IS NOT TRUE. THE PUMPERS LIE TO YOU. Companies with falling stock prices are frequently making more than minor errors, this is the nature of the beast.
Lesson 5: The pumpers know YOU CAN'T VERIFY THEIR STATEMENTS. That's why they make the statements they do.
Lesson 6: The pumpers PLAY ON YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. They can lie about information and you couldn't know the difference (unless you have done your assessment of the company and know the truth and facts).
Lesson 7: Pumpers play on your patience. YOU have held a microcap stock for a while. You knew it will be a madcap stock someday, but the PUMPER CAN GET TO YOU BECAUSE YOUR HUMAN NATURE WANTS TO KEEP YOU FROM ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE HOLDING A LOSING POSITION. That's when the pumper is best. You are proud. You have forgotten the commitment was to keep your losses small and your profit big. The pumper is bothersome, so you hold it through bad day after bad day. Some others buy, and the stock goes up a little bit. Then you feel justified for holding and return to let everyone know how glad you are for holding. Then you turn into a pumper as well. THE PUMPER HAS WON, AND GAINED A NEW PARTNER TOO!
Lesson 8: HOLD THE PRICE UP. That is the pumper’s job. The truth is not important. Lies are the norm. Post continuously on the board every day. They are trying to hit the newbies visiting the board. They are trying to wear out the critical discussions on the board. They do whatever it takes to wear the shorts out.
Lesson 9: PUMPERS WILL TRY TO CREATE DOUBT AND GET YOU TO RESEARCH ITEMS THAT THEY KNOW WILL LEAD TO THE CREATION OF DOUBT IN YOU AND IN OTHER STOCKHOLDERS. A typical trick of an advanced pumper is to propose that there is a potential news release coming, but because "we" don't have the facts on a particular subject we don’t know the unshared details. The pumper dares someone in the group to find out the answer to the question. The pumper already knows the answer; the pumper already knows what will be found. The power of this tactic is that the pumper is now in control of the actions of the stockholders; the pumper has you, the stockholder doing HIS/HER due diligence and when you, the stockholder come back to the group with a questionable finding then the pumper gains credibility. What to do??? Solution??? Well, I think it's important to find answers but on your own terms. I actually pick up the phone and call the company and talk to the investor relations person or the CEO until I get a satisfactory answer. The problem here is that the advanced pumper has you doing his bidding and his work; you have essentially joined his ranks. So, develop your own little Due Diligence package and answer questions by placing the information into the package and referring all new investors to read the answers to questions raised in the Investor Information package but DON'T GET INTO A CONVERSATION WITH THE PUMPER REGARDING THE TOPIC. THAT IS WHERE YOU LOSE. DON'T CONVERSE WITH THE PUMPER; ANSWER INDIRECTLY; DON'T USE THE PUMPER’S NAME; DON'T GET INTO A PERSONALITY CONTEST.
A PUMPER’S HANDBOOK: know the enemy who wishes gain at your expense! Do not underestimate a pumpers influence on a stock. The Pro's are good at what they do and what they do is profit from your losses. Below is their "hand-book" so to speak. Learn from it or donate your money to those who make an organized plan to profit at your expense!
PUMPERS DO THE FOLLOWING:
1. Be anonymous
2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your suggestions.
3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a support base before initiating your pumping routine.
4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you.
5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.
6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion.
7. Do not start with an all out pump of the stock. Build to it.
8. Identify your foes (bashers) and the boards "guru" Use them to your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead. Ideally, you will become the board’s guru.
9. Only pump until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the rest of the way.
10. Give the appearance of being open minded.
11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength.
12. Write headlines in with catchy statements.
13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality.
14. Don't worry about being labeled a "pumper". Newbies won't know your history, and you are supporting their choice to purchase the stock in the first place.
15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return later unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers.
16. Your goal is to limit the momentum of the drop. Not to make the company blast off; be subtle and consistent.
17. Kill the fears of losses, promote the company and the stock.
18. Use questions to create critical thinking. Statements to reinforce facts.
THAT CAN BE PROVEN, NAME CALLING AND PROFANITY AGAINST SHORTS IS ENCOURAGED.
20. Tell people that you have called the company. They'll take your word for claims made. If they do call to verify you can always find something that is missing from their response.
21. Encourage people to take the companies word for everything. Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness.
22. If the companies history/PR's are positive constantly point to that. Compile a list of this data prior to beginning your efforts.
23. If the price falls blame it on temporary outside influences, temporary mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but the stock / company itself.
24. If other posters share your thoughts, play on that and share theirs too.
25. Always cite high volume, even when it's not.
26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board.
27. Bait the bashers with personal attacks putting their focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from facts. Show them the facts from a "different angle."
28. Bash other stocks that would-be investors can turn to instead of the one you’re pumping.
30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's a game and you are playing it with your own rules.
GRADE YOUR FAVORITE PUMPER:
Advanced Pumper:
Will join the message board early and actually "bash" the stock with negatives; this pumper is very intelligent, has the facts of the company, actually helps shorts with Due Diligence and generally gets the confidence of the bears. Then, when the stock hits their price, the tone will change and they will start asking longs to check into this and check into that. The seeds of doubt are being planted. This pumper will then start using all the tactics listed on this page to create seeds of doubt. ALWAYS LOOK AT THE PROFILE OF A PERSON YOU SUSPECT. ASK WHAT STOCKS THEY'VE "SUPPORTED" IN THE PAST AND CHECK OUT THE MESSAGE BOARD. An honest person will have a positive track record that can be followed. I strongly believe that a contrary view is needed but this person is out to profit at your expense\ and does it by deception and creates hope after gaining confidence! BEWARE, this is the most clever pumper and the hardest to spot.
Grade A Pumper:
Posts lots of old news, responds to all negative posts with a positive side. Never responds to being called a pumper, never posts on another board. Can spend up to hours each week pumping a stock.
Grade B Pumper:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the negative poster into confidence, never posts on another board; spends hours each week.
Grade C Pumper:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C grade due to getting excited when pumper’s rules say not to get excited; spends several hours each week.
Grade D Pumper:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a positive statement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock.
Grade D Pumper: A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock "rocks", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule.
WHY PUMP?: MONEY (the usual reason), SPORT, ENTERTAINMENT. Some pumpers are compelled to pump because they simply need to justify their investment choice to themselves, so they must do it. It's a sad fact but never the less, a fact. It's life so you must learn how to deal with it or become a victim!
LEARN ABOUT HOW STOCK PUMPERS WORK: Very few pumpers are paid… just like there are very few bashers who are paid. There are just too many people out there doing the work for free for a fund to justify the extra expense.
NEVER ENGAGE A STOCK PUMPER; if you do so then YOU BECOME THE PUMPER'S AID!
Read the news, do your own homework and make your own decisions. Get real time quotes and follow the stock for a couple of weeks. Due Diligence is key here. Know that there will be a time when the stock runs up which will be followed by the Bashers and those that missed the boat. The pumpers will praise the stock by saying such things as "it’s a minor setback" and "the SEC is lying" and deceiving. There goal is to encourage longs to hold and potential new investors to buy, by falsely supporting the company. Take the time to confirm your Due Diligence, ,trust your own judgment and believe in yourself, pick your point of return or loss and live with it. Don't listen to pumpers or bashers and live by the rules you have created.
His posts are just for laughs.
How does it feel to be wrong everyday? You predicted a dump at 2 cents and yet here we are
Not bashing.......relax....if you can
Major Dump…
Been trading between .04-.05 for last month so relax.
Go bash another board
I am glad people r admitting what they r really doing, Company is great but if u cant shake the flippers it will never reach its potential as far as stock, You just have to see threw the bs take profit if u miss the big run u still made money but alot stocks getting hit hard for sure not just this one i really hope one day sec changes but it wont because the entire world is a crooked place
I agree again. It wasn’t the company’s news release - perfectly acceptable
It was the fluff posts here on the board
Don’t like having smoke blown up my a—
GLTU
I think hyped, but I'm still in and BULLISH
I dont think the company hype'd it at all. it was just a simple press release since they received the trademark.
Yes, I agree. Just felt overplayed is all
GLTU
understand, but imagine a major oil company selling it under our trademark. the company is taking all the steps required to be a major player in the space
Heavily invested here. But refuse to not be forthright
Trademark News less than overwhelming. Hopefully next PR is more mature
GLTA
It doesn't. Trademarks and patents are typical stinky pinky PR fluff.
Clean Vision Corporation Secures Trademark for AquaH(R) Green Hydrogen for Potential $1.4T Market $CLNV @CleanVisionCorp https://www.accesswire.com/813144/clean-vision-corporation-secures-trademark-for-aquah-green-hydrogen-for-potential-14t-market
How does a trademark create added value to us when there are other producers of hydrogen from various inputs. It does not create a production or sales monopoly.
Effectively, it limits what others can label their hydrogen in words or symbols.
There are hundreds of millions of dollars going into big hydrogen projects each month. So, a mark, name or brand might help but not to the degree that we hope.
These boards have been very very good to me.
Sounds like a drug problem. Or delusional narcissistic syndrome even more likely
The trademark news was the highlight?
GLTA
I've always been lucky.......Angels flying over me
Lol..
My mistake..
LMAO
Oh? Well then...
I actually made over 2 million dollars
Looking pretty good here cJ
Actually, some posters make $$$ from the boards
Unreal right..
These boards are for entertainment only........just trying to stay in compliance
I find you highly entertaining absolutely.
You love me
Such a goofball.
👍️ ok thanks Frank
I didn't record it unfortunately. I will next time.
Hi Frank, will CLNV be posting a recording/replay link
for those who missed all or part of yesterdays call? Thanks