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There is a wide area of potential discussion separating dull factoids and personal attacks. Maybe I should start a board for Brinker discussion.
On the other hand, maybe I should stick my head in a vice and tighten it. <g>
Richard
This board will never have many bookmarks because "personal attacks will not be allowed".
Only "DULL FACTOIDS" about Bob Brinker will be allowed.
But there is a need for FACTS (Good and Bad) about Bob Brinker.IMHO.
I was just thinking that it's kind of surprising iHub has not had a thread about a figure as controversial as Bob Brinker until now.
from KOMAG web site:
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INVESTOR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ)
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If you have a question that is not answered, please email us at ir_web@komag.com or call Komag at (408) 576-2000.
Q: What happens to my stock that I purchased prior to Komag's Chapter 11?
Stock held prior to the company's chapter 11 are no longer tradeable as of the effective date of our emergence from chapter 11 of June 30, 2002. These shares are deemed "worthless securities". For more detailed information, please review the attached confirmation order document. The specifics of your concern will be on page 17, line 6 (paragraph 12) of the Order.
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I'm not an expert on bankruptcies, but my impression is that stockholders typically get zero in these situations. (If there had been any equity left, why would they have needed to go bankrupt? I can't think of a reason.)
I am aware of that.
The key question is: "Did the holders of KMAG get any value
or what it given to the banks?" In most cases the KMAG shares
go to zero in these type of situations. But I do not know.
I was just tracking down what happened to KMAG. They emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2002, and are now traded under the symbol KOMG on NASDAQ.
http://www.komag.com/investors/reports/ann_rpt2002.pdf
Reading Bob Brinker's Letter of 4/5/03:
(1)Clearly shows he recommends buying MSFT at 23 as of 3/11/03
Since MSFT has not traded at 23, there is no trade so far.
(2)Clearly shows he recommends buying VOD at 17 as of 3/11/03
Since VOD has not traded at 17, there is no trade so far.
D-Man
Welcome aboard
Thanks Larry! I was just wondering about Bob. Used to subscribe in the mid-90's.
Looking forward to seeing if Bob can call the next downturn.
Best Regards,
Derek
Public Heel
Welcome aboard
Lisa
Welcome aboard
Updated title after reading past letters back to Jan 2002
(1)MSFT and VOD are in every letter back to Jan 2002
(2)MSFT and VOD were rated re newed buys on 3/11/03
Larry,
I listen to BB when I can.
He's generally negative on shorting and I haven't heard him ever (as I recall) discuss stops for his Buys.
I'm pleased to see you collecting data on his calls.
Thanks.
Final Conclusions dated 7/19/03
Part 1. What to expect from Bob Brinker's Major Buys and Sells.
Bob Brinker's major calls are in general very good.IMHO.
(a)Buy when he says major buy.IMHO.
(b)Sell when he says major sell.IMHO.
(c)Do not use his sells to go short.IMHO.
(d)Allocation is still a problem.IMHO.
Part 2. What to expect from Bob Brinker's stock/Fund buys.
(a)You must decide before hand the risk you are willing to take.IMHO.
(b)And be prepared to take firm Stop Loss action rather
then depend on Bob's sell.
Update 6/9/09
I am looking for return data for the "Brinker Fixed Income Advisor." I have data from Mark Hulbert but nothing from the Brinkers
They don't publish a table of return data by year for either Marketimer or "Brinker Fixed Income Advisor" so I'd like to make one here. If you have the data, send it to me and I'll add it here.
2008 Data
Mark Hulbert says Brinker's "fixed income advisor" model portfolio #1 lost 21.7% last year, 2008.
Mark Hulbert says Brinker's "fixed income advisor" model portfolio #2 lost 11.5% last year, 2008.
Mark Hulbert says Brinker's "fixed income advisor" model portfolio #3 lost 5.2% last year, 2008.
Brinker's "Marketimer" model portfolio #1 lost 39.7% last year, 2008.
Brinker's "Marketimer" model portfolio #2 lost 37.4% last year, 2008.
Brinker's "Marketimer" model portfolio #3 lost 23.9% last year, 2008.
Vanguard's Total Bond fund made 5.1% last year, 2008
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0084&FundIntExt=INT#hist=tab%3A1a
Vanguard's Total Stock Market fund lost 37.0% last year, 2008
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0085&FundIntExt=INT#hist=tab%3A1a
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