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OMG...
This is AABB like wow..
I've read them, they're quite desperate
Shadow.Banning....like.it...cause.you.know $AABB
G'Nite...love you all...your lives...and your kids...and pets too.
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I'm .confuscated..cause.we.derive..contrive..follow...
I think there are things that are already done..no changing that
I see it one way then another...and one party hails to themselves...and another hails to Freedom
Like all these few that think they own World...pressing you and your life...for them...Go $AABB
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Without a skeptic (me) to bring up the issue of tailings management - AABB "longs" would still be thinking that mining produces no waste product.
Now if they can just be shown that profit margins are not 90% in the mining industry. And you can't sell an invisible mine for $82 million.
It’s either you or one of your butt buddies.
But, but, but, you're just an armchair miner...how would you know all that?
LOL..... at the fools on this board that have no clue
I was able to talk with Mike from IR months ago and asked about the concession number. He gave the same BS answer as IR did in emails to other investors. He said that it was a complicated transaction and that the details were hard to come by. The concession number shouldn't be hard to come by at all if it exists.
Lolol....you fell for that!??
No concession number, no Guerrero Mine. No comprende?
Git Chit, be a good whistleblower and make some noise there.
Bet you already did with your boiler room goons and no one paid any attention to yous. Eyy?
http://mnamexico.com/en/ma/ma-january-2021/
Alidare....this Guerrero Mine question could be so easily resolved if you could just supply us with the concession number. No concession number, no mine. No mine, no $30 million in gold bullion and $52 million in cash. No assets.....then no "gold-backed" crypto. And so on.....
Just a big old stack of lies, Ali. Screw that propeller onto your tin foil hat a bit tighter, maybe that will help you see the truth a little better.
Git Chit as a Good Samaritan you should contact Qiangda Investment Group and advise them that Asia Metals naked shorted Guerrero Mine to them. Maybe they will reward you 10% and might make more than being gofer here “for free” for 12 years with 41k posts.
You should know how this works, you are all over shorting miners boards selling something you don’t own.
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/01/14/2158624/0/en/AABB-Asia-Metals-Completes-82-Million-Sale-Of-Guerrero-Gold-Belt-Mine-And-Facilities-In-Mexico-To-Joint-Venture-Partner.html
Q report is expected to be decent! "Doubled gold production" Tequilla is reported producing well. just a matter of time bAABBy!! Price? vs Value!! another buy in for Monday!!
gitreal ... You're trying to convince this Board that AABB is a Scam/Fake, but Investors have seen the Processing Facility Equipment Delivery Process with Pictures and Instillation Progress with Pictures Including the CEO which YOU say does Not Exist and is also Fake! The Listed Acquired Mines are on the Official Mexican Mining Site! Dividends Show in my Accounts! Who Spends so much Time on an OTC Board that they have No Interest in? Or Do You! Short and Distort Campaign if you ask me! In Too Deep? I Think So! :)
And Ive invested what I can.
Dig deep. Haven't you paid attention to Benny? Going to $8.88, yada, yada, yada.....
Longs know you cant be trusted.
Why would you trust anybody on a social media board? Are you that stupid?
And you/and others in your little group have threatened those who disagree with you.
Bullshit. I have never threatened anybody.
You. Because your intentions are suspect. And Ive invested what I can. Longs know you cant be trusted.
And you/and others in your little group have threatened those who disagree with you.
Who's being sarcastic? I really do urge you put every spare nickel into AABB. Why wouldn't you? Or are you not so confident about the outcome?
Is the Etzatlan processing facility on the mining registry? No, it isn't.
The pile of rocks on the hillside is almost certainly on a valid concession....but is it in the name of AABB or its subsidiary? I doubt it.
Supposedly there is a lease agreement between the concession owner and AABB or its subsidiary, and Benny claims to have seen it but is not in a sharing mood.
Which leads us back to the original Big Lie - the Guerrero Mine that was supposedly the source of almost all of AABB's assets (gold bullion and cash). What's the concession number for that mine? And why is it such a tough thing for the company to disclose? What's its current status - since AABB still has a percentage of the Guerrero Mine, shouldn't it matter? Why the bizarre/unnecessary level of secrecy? Doesn't that make you in the least bit suspicious about the whole thing?
I never said it wasn't real. And I agree that it is a processing facility.....of something. We don't know what yet. And we certainly don't know who owns it, or who will operate it. These serial scammers have a long history of putting their name on facilities they don't own.
Sarcasm doesnt suit you
Its just like you to try & force an investor to sell.
What investor am I forcing to sell? I recommend that you load da Boat! Average on down....to the trips.
So they are faking being in the mexican mining registry also? Lol
I'm not git..and I don't hide behind handles.. I'm holding 5m shares of aabb at a 5 cent average... My name is will hegmann on fb.. Verified account.. Feel free to look me up
Git, How about you prove yourself right and reveal who owns the Ezatlan processing plant if it's not AABB? Short of that I now can't take anything you say seriously.You were the one that said AABB didn't own it or it's not being built for them with that statement you are at least agreeing that a processing facility is being built or are you inferring that it doesn't actually even exist and all the pictures posted on the AABB website are "fakes"!
And thats how I know you lie. You open your mouth.
Stocks go up & Stocks go down, thats part of the cycle. Its just like you to try & force an investor to sell. And last I checked, its trending higher.
And youve been caught lieing about your switching aliases and posting on other platforms.
Nope, you are the one lying. The only thing I have switched is my alias picture. Once.
And no, I don't know off the top of my head what you have into the company - can you remind us? So many losers here, it is hard to keep track.
You dont lose unless you sell.
Oh lordy.......so you're gonna ride it down to trips? With that kind of investing, you really are a loser.
It is my opinion based on years of watching these scammers operate - it's how they convince investors to hand over their hard earned money. Prove me wrong.
You definitely are that stupid. You dont lose unless you sell. You will never get me to sell. Your master must be giving you hxll about now.
you change aliases & you lie. 41k posts on this name alone and countless others on others. Ive been here several years and have seen enough.
You know what I have into the company. And youve been caught lieing about your switching aliases and posting on other platforms. You post that this is a scam numerous and you never post backup. Like Ive asked many times, Do you have a life outside of this board?
Git you wrote "and a processing plant that is not owned by them or being built for them." With your due diligence who have you discovered the processing plant in Ezatlan is actually owned by or being built for if not AABB?
What have I lied about? Let's hear it.
Did I mention that AABB is a scam? How much have you donated to them? As much as Condor?
Or is this your trading philosophy?
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You don't lose until you sell.
Gold was warning
Nobody listened
No, of course you wont. Because you will never admit when you are wrong.
And you would never keep your word because you lie all the time.
Git, Are you planning on leaving if it does?
If it does what? Reach a nickel by May 1st? No, of course not. Pump and dump scams are always capable of quick spikes. There is always a chance there is some bullshit news about yet another new "mine" acquisition, a picture of CT standing in a hallway telling people its a laboratory, or maybe another divvy that nobody can ever redeem. Or more stupid computer-generated pictures of baboons. This kind of nonsense gets investors all excited for a day or two.
AABB was started as a scam (to replace SRGE and CRGP, which had run their course), it is a scam, and will always be a scam. A very obvious one.....except to the most gullible/naive.....like you.
Git, Are you planning on leaving if it does? Will you never ever call AABB a scam again?
Are you keeping your word and leaving if it doesn't hit 5 cents or 8 plus by summer like you said?
You guys hv been bsing that you know about mining for long enough. The entire time it’s been aabb a miner with a pick riding a donkey narrative LOL. You’ve watched too many old cartoons. Sometimes I think you idiots believe your own bs, BUT don’t think you do tbh. Stick to the jokes they’re more entertaining. git on the right side of the trade.
I never claimed to mention dry stacking, and in fact said why I didn't mention it. You need to slow down, your anger at getting ripped off has really gotten the better of you.
Read my posts to Benny, you BSer.
There you go again, deflecting and attacking AABB in the same post/paragraphs. You never once mentioned Dry stacking. Show me the post where you referenced dry stacking.
Of course AABB used the animation as the prototype of what is being installed for operation. And the liquid press is the final last stage piece of equipment , which makes perfect sense, from a logistics perspective.
I will never buy into your gamesmanship of credibility again.It's all bullshit, and even if you don't admit to it, it reeks of gamesmanship and fraud
It's comical to me that Benny, the one most responsible for getting people roped into this scam, called you a used condom but like a good little mark you still are being more respectful to him than the people calling this OTC fraud what it is.
Then you deflect by suggesting that I DO SOME RESEARCH !!!!
LOL.... and that's exactly what you ended up doing. Good for you! Something you should have done a year or two years ago, or whenever it was that you handed over nearly six figures to these crooks at AABB.
And you seem convinced that AABB has the tailings issue taken care of, even though they have never once mentioned it in any of their promotions. And now you assume they will do dry stacked tailings.....even though, as you found out in your research, dry tailings methods have some serious downfalls. Far more expensive than liquid tailings management, and requires substantial upfront equipment costs, engineering, monitoring, etc. And creates a dust issue.....can you imagine the next door farmer's attitude when every time the wind blows, his crops get covered with toxic dust? Or are you still going with your "trucking it back up the mountain" theory?
And you seem to think that tailings ponds are "old technology" and nobody would use those methods anymore. Well, you provided multiple examples where tailings ponds are still used. It depends on the economics of the project, layout of the mine/processing area, the geochemistry of the tailings, water availability, hydrology (how shallow is groundwater), climate (how much rain falls in the rainy season), and many other factors.
You always assume that AABB "has it covered", and has done a tailings feasibility study, and will use the latest technology. You assume that idiotic animated mineral processing video is the exact layout that AABB will be using in their supposed processing facility. You know they ripped that animation off from some other company, and claimed it as theirs, right?
As far as acknowledging NOW that dry stacked tailings methods exist......you probably never noticed but I often referred to the tailings method/equipment as a "facility", sometimes as a "pond". Since the company had never mentioned or addressed the tailings issue, not even once, they left it up to investors and critics to figure it out. Investors were too ignorant to understand or care about the issue ("what? tailings are an issue?")
I made the judgement that dry tailings stacking, the most expensive and technologically advanced method of tailings management, was not worth mentioning in regards to a scam company with no proven assets, unaudited financials, no expertise or experience, with an ever-shrinking pile of waste rock on a hill that has been slowly trucked away over the last two years, and a processing plant that is not owned by them, or being built for them.
So now we wait to see ALL the Progress Management has made with ... Note Closure, Share Buy-Backs, Legal Action Fighting Manipulation, Reducing the Outstanding Share Count, Processing Facility Build/Evaluation Lab Results(NI 43-101), Exchange(New Stream-Lined & AABB/AABBG Pay Crypto, New Acquisitions & Dividends that have been Distributed and Future Dividends that will be Distributed! "The Future Is Secure" and Everyone Invested here should be Very Excited about it ... IMVHO! :)
From now on, I am no longer giving credibility to Git Fluked's touting himself as knowledgeable. He now looks dumber than I ever anticipatedm touting that Tailings Ponds is required by the fraudster, AABB. Where is the tailings Pond, Git Fluked, kept hammering away, relating to the Processing Plant.
Don't you feel pretty damned dumb, NOW?
Dry stacking is the most sustainable method used to store filtered tailings — the silty, sandy material that's left over once the metals are extracted. In the dry stack method, tailings are placed and compacted in a mound that is concurrently reclaimed with native soil and vegetation.
What are the problems with dry stack tailings?
Tailings.info ▫ Dry Stacking of tailings
Dust generation is a common problem in arid climates and can occur relatively quickly after tailings disposal due to the low moisture content of the placed material. A dry stack installation in a high rainfall environment can create day to day management problems for trafficability of haulage and compaction equipment.
On-Land Storage (“Dry-Stack”)
In “dry-stack” disposal, tailings stored in dry form, typically by burial in a covered and lined pit. In this regard, dry-stack storage is more similar to a modern, sealed landfill. This method takes up much less space, is less susceptible to earthquake hazards, and doesn’t require active water treatment. This makes it particularly relevant in locations where precipitation, earthquake risk are high, or space is limited.
However, dry-stack disposal has much higher up-front costs than wet storage. Dry-stack tailings must be dried, and the solid tailings must be transported by truck or conveyor instead of by slurry pipeline, which adds logistical complexity and cost.
Pits covers for dry-stack storage, like the damns around artifical lake impoundments, must be maintained in perpetuity. However, the long-term maintenance is much less than it is for large, wet tailings impoundment with dams.
In Alaska, Pogo Mine, Greens Creek Mine, and Nixon Fork Mine use dry-stacking for tailings disposal. In contrast, the Fort Knox and Red Dog mines use artifical wet impoundments with earthen dams, and Kensington Mine stores its tailings in a natural lake.
Git it?
"Short and distort" is a type of securities fraud in which investors short sell a stock and then spread negative rumors about the company in an attempt to drive down stock prices.[1][2][3]
It is often performed as a form of naked short selling in which stock is sold without being borrowed and without any intent to borrow.[4][5] Once the stock price has declined, the investor uses the proceeds of the initial sale to buy a larger number of the company's shares than sold originally. Some of the newly purchased stock is used to fulfill the short-selling contract; the remaining shares are then offered for sale, which causes an additional decline in the company's share price.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_and_distort
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LAS VEGAS, Dec. 08, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- via InvestorWire – Asia Broadband Inc. (OTC: AABB) (“AABB” or the “Company”) is pleased to announce that the Company has now confirmed a December 28, 2021, release date for its proprietary cryptocurrency exchange (the “Exchange”) within the AABB Wallet. AABB management and the development team are thrilled in anticipation of the soon approaching Exchange launch.
In collaboration with the Company’s digital assets developer, the integration and testing of network components continues in preparations for the initial staged launch of the Exchange. There have now been 150 cryptocurrency Exchange trading pairs added into to the BCGateway platform and 50 more trading pairs are planned to be added in the coming weeks. The Exchange project has evolved and grown immensely in recent months to vastly improve the finished product. Many new features and capabilities have been added to expand functionality, usability, module additions and market penetration including the web version, Spanish language version and a new Exchange website.
https://www.stocktitan.net/news/AABB/asia-broadband-sets-december-launch-date-for-proprietary-97e217qbixc3.html
Located in the prolific mining region of Acaponeta in Nayarit, Mexico, the Bonanza property has shown high-grade gold assay results from recent samples and drilling activities with the most significant gold values of more than 10 grams per ton (g/t). Company management is excited by the Bonanza acquisition for its potential for rapid expansion, high production, low operating costs and strong contribution to gross profits
AABB continues to implement its mining property acquisition strategy to optimize development capital utilization by focusing operations in regions of Mexico where AABB has a comparative advantage of development resources and expertise readily available for rapid expansion and duplication of the Company’s previous gold production success.
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/asia-broadband-signs-definitive-acquisition-155700261.html
Asia Broadband Exceeds $1.1 Million in Gold-Backed Cryptocurrency Sales Last Month Prior to Launch of Proprietary Cryptocurrency Exchange
LAS VEGAS, Nov. 17, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- via InvestorWire – Asia Broadband Inc. (OTC: AABB) (“AABB” or the “Company”) is pleased to announce that the Company has recorded over $1.1 million in AABBG Gold Token sales within the recent 4 week period ending November 15, in advance of the imminent launch of the proprietary cryptocurrency exchange (the “Exchange”). AABB’s primary goal for the AABBG token is to become a worldwide standard of exchange that is secured and trusted with gold backing, by progressively expanding token circulation to the primary sales markets of North America and Europe and expand globally to other predominant and high growth market areas. AABB embraces a pioneering philosophy with its truly unique Mine-to-Token vertical integration operational approach that strives toward complete independence from FIAT currency.
The launch of the Company’s AABB Wallet in March 2021 introduced its AABBG token’s initial release to the market that is backed by $30 million in physical gold the Company currently holds. Further token releases will continue to be backed 100% by additional physical gold acquired from the Company’s future mining production, gold purchased from cash reserves or credit. At today’s market price of gold, the one-tenth (0.1) gram of gold backing the AABBG token price is approximately $5.96 USD. The token price is tied to and supported by the Company at the market price of gold at a minimum. As the price of gold fluctuates, the minimum supported price of the AABBG token will increase or decrease. However, the potential upside price of the token will be driven by market demand after the Exchange launch.
Additionally, the Company is continuing to collaborate diligently with the Exchange developer to integrate and test the network of components in final preparations to soon release the proprietary cryptocurrency exchange (the “Exchange”) within the AABB Wallet. Just recently, over 100 cryptocurrency Exchange trading pairs have been added into to the BCGateway platform. The Exchange project has evolved and grown immensely in recent months to vastly improve the finished product. Many new features and capabilities have been added to expand functionality, usability, module additions and market penetration including the web version, Spanish language version and a new Exchange website. AABB management and the development team are thrilled in anticipation of the approaching Exchange launch.
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/asia-broadband-exceeds-1-1-154300335.html
Asia Broadband Prepares For Imminent Launch of Proprietary Cryptocurrency Exchange
LAS VEGAS, Oct. 28, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- via InvestorWire – Asia Broadband Inc. (OTC: AABB) (“AABB” or the “Company”) is pleased to announce that the Company is currently integrating and testing the network of components in final preparations to soon release the proprietary cryptocurrency exchange (the “Exchange”) within the AABB Wallet. The Exchange project has evolved and grown immensely in recent months to vastly improve the finished product. Many new features and capabilities have been added to expand functionality, usability, module additions and market penetration including the web version, Spanish language version and a new Exchange website. AABB management and the development team are excited in anticipation of the approaching Exchange launch.
The new platform of the Exchange, the BCGateway, is complete. This allows for an expanding number of cryptocurrencies to be added. The BCGateway platform now accepts and supports 82 cryptocurrencies to purchase the AABBG token in the AABB Wallet, as shown on the new Exchange website AABBExchange.com. Trade pairs for exchange are also being created from this growing list of cryptocurrencies.
Additionally, all customer accounts have now been migrated to the BCGateway, which will increase the speed of the AABB Wallet navigation and transaction processing. The network has also become more robust with a larger capacity for increases in transaction volume. Generally, the BCGateway will stimulate transaction growth by allowing for reduced blockchain gas fees for all currencies and increases in speed of deposits, withdrawals, and internal transactions.
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/asia-broadband-prepares-imminent-launch-153000269.html
Asia Broadband Signs Definitive Joint Venture Agreement for Producing Tequila Gold Mine Project in Mexico
LAS VEGAS, Oct. 21, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- via InvestorWire -- Asia Broadband Inc. (OTC: AABB) (“AABB” or the “Company”) is pleased to announce that it has signed a definitive joint venture agreement to secure a 75% interest in the Tequila Gold Mine Project and 100% of the current and future gold production from the property. The Company came to terms with owner Juan Enrique Michel Arambula Y Socios for the 66.6792 hectare concession # 219165, La Guadalupe, located approximately 70 kilometers north of Guadalajara near the town San Martin de las Canas in the municipality of Tequila, Jalisco, Mexico. In addition, negotiations are ongoing to add additional concessions to the Tequila Project joint venture.
The Tequila property is currently producing gold, silver and base metals from its 25 ton per day (tpd) processing facility and all efforts are underway to significantly increase daily production capacity with a mill facilities expansion installation in the first quarter of 2022. AABB will be continuing the previous exploration and drilling program on the Tequila property done by a Canadian mining company that revealed multiple gold and silver mineralization veins with high-grade potential. The additional development work on the property will facilitate the completion of a professional geological resource assessment report and further define the scope of the joint venture’s capital budget going forward.
The Tequila gold project is another high yield asset addition within the Company’s strategic expansion initiative to acquire gold production and increase the AABB’s physical gold holdings. Company management is exhilarated with the Tequila project for its potential for rapid expansion, high production, low operating costs and strong contribution to gross profits.
AABB continues to implement its mining property acquisition strategy to optimize development capital utilization by focusing operations in regions of Mexico where AABB has a comparative advantage of development resources and expertise readily available for rapid expansion and duplication of the Company’s previous gold production success.
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/asia-broadband-signs-definitive-joint-161000617.html
LAS VEGAS, May 27, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- via InvestorWire – Asia Broadband Inc. (OTC: AABB) (“AABB” or the “Company”) is pleased to announce that AABB’s management and Board of Directors have approved the retirement and return of 107 million restricted common shares to the Company treasury. The share retirement process has been initiated with the Company’s transfer agent and is anticipated to be completed in the coming weeks. The Company initiative to create shareholder value led to the agreements with several third-party shareholders to retire the shares. AABB expects to retire additional shares to the Company treasury in the near future with the ongoing plans to continue the shareholder value initiative.
In other Company news, AABB will be releasing a progress update of the Company’s proprietary cryptocurrency exchange version of the AABB Wallet that has been under development with Core State Holdings, Corp. since the recent launch of the AABBG gold-backed token. After completion in the coming months, the exchange will allow AABB Wallet users to complete quick two-way exchanges of their AABB Gold tokens for major cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin, Ethereum and Litecoin. The proprietary exchange will also add tremendously to transaction fee revenues and allow for the price appreciation of AABBG, influenced by market demand and the limited supply of tokens released into circulation.
Asia Broadband Receives High-Grade Assays Results for Prospective Gold Mine Acquisition in Acaponeta, MexicoLAS VEGAS, May 25, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- In a release issued under the same headline earlier today by Asia Broadband Inc. (OTC: AABB), please note that in the second paragraph of the release, the link to access the Acaponeta-Bonanza Preliminary Geological Report is https://asiabroadbandinc.com/acaponeta-bonanza-report The corrected press release follows.
Asia Broadband Inc. (OTC: AABB) (“AABB” or the “Company”) is pleased to announce that it has received mapping and rock sample assay results during the ongoing due diligence process with respect to the Letter of Intent to acquire a historic production gold mine property in the prolific mining region of Acaponeta in Nayarit, Mexico. The high-grade acquisition target is located approximately 48 kms southeast from the city of Acaponeta and 3 kms from the town of El Carrizo. The Acaponeta gold project is another prospective high yield asset addition in the Company’s strategic expansion initiative to acquire gold production and increase the AABB’s physical gold holdings.
To download the complete Acaponeta-Bonanza Preliminary Geological Report, go to: https://asiabroadbandinc.com/acaponeta-bonanza-report
The assays in the geological report revealed high-grade gold, silver and copper values from the non-targeted rock samples that were randomly collected throughout the property at the beginning of the due diligence procedures. Some of the most significant gold values were 10.4 grams per ton (g/t), 8.9 (g/t) and 6.8 (g/t). The Company is highly encouraged by the viability of these preliminary results that strongly indicate that targeted drilling samples directed by geophysics data could confirm similar high-grade mineralization values and concentrations throughout the property.
AABB will be collecting preliminary drilling samples and publish video footage next week in expectation to confirm further high-grade assay results. In the weeks ahead, the Company will be conducting further due diligence and continuing its negotiations to acquire this tremendous potential acquisition to expeditiously advance AABB into production and an expansion program.
AABB management is exhilarated with the Acaponeta project for its potential for rapid development, high production and low operating costs and anticipates completing an acquisition agreement in the very near future.
About Asia Broadband
Asia Broadband Inc. (OTC: AABB) is a resource company focused on the production, supply and sale of precious and base metals, primarily to Asian markets. The Company utilizes its specific geographic expertise, experience and extensive industry contacts to facilitate its innovative distribution process from the production and supply of precious and base metals in Mexico to client sales networks in Asia. This vertical integration approach to sales transactions is the unique strength of AABB that differentiates the Company and creates distinctive value for shareholders. The Company has recently released its freshly minted mine-to-token gold-backed cryptocurrency AABB Gold token (AABBG) and strives to become a world-wide standard of exchange that is secured and trusted with gold backing, an outstanding quality relative to other cryptocurrencies.
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Coming Soon: Links to the SEC for filing complaints about scam stocks, some information about mining scams, how to spot them, etc. Here's a good one for starters.....
More links coming....in the meantime.....here's some good stuff about cryptocurrency and how most of them are set up by scammers, they are worth absolutely nothing, cannot be used for anything, and cannot be redeemed.
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