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Sunday, 03/16/2014 12:12:02 PM

Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:12:02 PM

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Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 41, Ken Ham, Bill Nye debate)


Published on Feb 22, 2014 by Thunderf00t [ http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t ; http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t/videos?flow=grid&view=0 ]

Ken Ham said enough in his recent debate with Bill Nye to keep me going for a year!

This was just one of the more hilarious things he said, where he holds up a diagram from a science paper and claims its like the biblical model. Apart from when you look at the details, the diagram goes back in time ~400 million years, thats 394 000 years before Ken Ham thinks the universe was created. Sure the genetic bottle neck was ~10 000, and not the 2 suggested by Ken Ham, and for some bizarre reason the golden jackals were not killed by noahs flood. But oddly enough if you ignore all of the facts that show the scientific version of events is utterly inconsistent with the creationist perspective, then what you are left with 'confirms the bible'.

Just like when you ignore all the evidence that shows the earth is not flat, what remains, by definition is an argument for the earth being flat. Not a very good way to do science!

For those who want to take a look at the actual paper Ken Ham cites:
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1004016

Many thanks to all those who supported this video through Patreon!
http://www.patreon.com/Thunderf00t

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK7i-dtMaWk [with comments]


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Creationist Signs at the Bill Nye / Ken Ham Debate


Published on Feb 5, 2014 by The Young Turks [ http://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks ]

The debate between Bill Nye (aka 'The Science Guy) and Creation Museum president Ken Ham has people (from fundamentalist Christians to Atheists and everything in between) buzzing today. What should we make of the signs creationists made for those who believe in evolution? http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/messages-from-creationists-to-people-who-believe-in-evolutio Does conservative Christian 700 Club host Pat Robertson believe believers should reject fossil records? Ana Kasparian and John Iadarola (host, TYT University and Common Room) break it down on The Young Turks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBs-CkxGXy8 [with (over 4,000) comments]


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Bill Nye Ken Ham Debate Summed Up In Two Very Telling Answers


Published on Feb 5, 2014 by The Young Turks

"On Tuesday evening more than 3 million people tuned in to watch "Science Guy" Bill Nye debate Ken Ham, founder of the biblically literalist Creation Museum on the topic "Is creation a viable model of origins?"

Is creation a viable model of origins in today's modern, scientific era? Creation Museum head Ken Ham is joined at the Creation Museum by Emmy Award-winning science educator and CEO of the Planetary Society Bill Nye.?

Mr. Ham believes that the world was created over a six 24-hour-day period about 6,000 years ago, and that all living land animals today are descended from those taken aboard Noah's Ark some 4,500 years ago.

Nye challenged Ham's literal biblical view on several fronts, pointing out that radioisotopic and ice core data shows that the Earth has been around for far longer than the 6,000 years that Ham says it is, as does our ability to view stars that are more than 6,000 light years away. Nye also pointed out that Noah's Ark, were it constructed the way the Bible says it was, wouldn't actually stay afloat. "* The Young Turks hosts Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian break it down.

*Read more here from Sudeshma Chowdhury / Christian Science Monitor:
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2014/0205/Bill-Nye-versus-Ken-Ham-Who-won-video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyZjX2e7Kx8 [with (nearly 7,000) comments]


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FULL Why Do People Laugh at Creationists By: Thunderf00t


Uploaded on Nov 1, 2011 by ChristopherHitchslap [ http://www.youtube.com/user/ChristopherHitchslap ; http://www.youtube.com/user/ChristopherHitchslap/videos?flow=grid&view=0 ]

http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t
The whole series [up to then; obviously, more since (e.g. first YouTube this post; http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t/search?query=laugh+creationists )]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eo5MdHMNcw [with (over 5,000) comments]


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