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Sunday, 11/18/2012 11:05:07 AM

Sunday, November 18, 2012 11:05:07 AM

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Grail part 2...Quest of the TREND

"We see what we want to see unless we make a conscious effort to see what is really there." -anon.

Note on the intro board...I can prove the grail and it is ..... "price" and 3day acting on 5day...you need to be seeing/thinking all three. All I was doing by not saying one or another number is the Grail was to get your thought process working= making you see all at the same time. This is the analogy of it being like playing Chess... and it is better to keep it this way=grail = 3...5...10...= what "timing the Market" really is.
...and then note on intro bard about confluence of moving averages...
Patience...Moving averages...CONFLUENCE... http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=80845766
I would say that in different types of Markets it can change to where 5 is obviously too early and it is "better" to wait for 10 to get involved. The experienced person would still have the confidence and comfort to go early...its just a choice of going early and when to start early which is one's experience.
The Grail is a process of thinking and seeing and is done on the "practical" level with the "objective" thought process without interference from the "subjective/feelings/ego.
Then ///let the cycle work... in order for the cycle Hi/Lo to complete... the 20 average Bollinger parameters enter into the game ...along with counting of 2 hands 2 feet...keep your feet on the ground...while reaching for the sky...

...edit it down...the Grail simply is...
They really have to work together (confluence) but it is the 3 and 5 that get it started...confluence and the crossing adds to your confidence...3 crossing is the trigger for 5 and then 10 and then there is "momentun" the force behind them all...but the real trigger is price =the price crossing the 3 average starts the ball rolling... because the average isn't going to turn the other direction until price is on the other side... The Grail answer comes when one understands these 2 triggers...relative to the 5average. Confluence of averages often come with strong in flows of MOMENTUM...and VOLUME...

The 10 average trigger gives you the confidence to stay with the trade for the complete cycle rather then just a scalp/daytrade you are more willing to hold over night "knowing" the cycle is in motion and more than likely intends to complete the cycle... Hi/Lo...overbought/oversold...Up/down.

THE TRUE Knowing of the grail as being; buy low sell high and the parameters contained within a certain set of BANDS and knowing the TimeFrame cycles...you are going to see that you do hit most all tops and bottoms within 3-5 points...so the saying that nobody can pick tops is wrong... in most all cases you know when a trade is working for or against you in 1 to 1-1/2 points. (which comes with experience which is not not a feeling)
I am very hard-assed when it comes to being able to "POINT" at it on the Chart...otherwise it is one's opinion/subjective/distractions and the trader has a multitude of bad habits to get rid of before you know or they know they've got IT. (There is a big differience here: of "thinking you know" and Knowing you Know...) IT being... what it takes to survive in these Markets.

The other day I started to do a better definition of TREND...and decided it would confuse more than help because the words or something weren't working the way I was seeing trend...I want a better definition of trend...and I want a better definition of "momentum" and then all the tools are there...
Give back some to a good cause...
Enjoy...good trades...
You are only as good as your next trade...
Ki...Kiy...theMatrix ...there is a definition of Matrix that most do not have...

Humans desire to complicate everything...is your first mistake. ...theMatrix

theGrail



QUESTion of the TREND
5/10day nearterm... 20day Intermediate... 60 Long Term
Like the intraday TimeFrame rule; always trade with the daily BIAS...you should also ///always trade with the TREND.
Daily...2 year

Daily 1 year

Daily with pice as a dashed line...

Daily with OHLC pice bars


Quest of the TREND
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