Wednesday, February 15, 2017 8:09:34 PM
'I'd Like To See You Hold Back On Settlements,' Trump Tells Netanyahu
.. the know-no-details about failed negotiations in the past bellyflops again ..
"7 Things To Know About Israeli Settlements"
February 15, 201711:59 AM ET
Bill Chappell
President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu participate in a joint news conference in
the East Room of the White House on Wednesday.
Evan Vucci/AP
With differing messages emanating from the Trump administration about its stance on the two-state solution for in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, many eyes turned to President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for clarity on the issue at their joint news conference at the White House .. http://www.npr.org/2017/02/15/514986341/watch-live-trump-netanyahu-hold-joint-press-conference-at-white-house .. Wednesday.
"So I'm looking at two-state and one-state — and I like the one that both parties like," Trump said when asked about the subject alongside Netanyahu at the formal news conference around midday Wednesday.
"I'm very happy with the one that both parties like. I can live with either one," Trump continued. "I thought for a while the two-state looked like it may be the easier of the two, but honestly if Bibi and if the Palestinians — if Israel and the Palestinians are happy, I'm happy with the one they like the best."
In the Israeli leader's response to the same question, Netanyahu said he was concerned with substance, not labels. And he said his two main requirements for a peace deal haven't changed.
"First, the Palestinians must recognize the Jewish state. They have to stop calling for Israel's destruction," Netanyahu said.
Secondly, he added, "in any peace agreement, Israel must retain the overriding security control over the entire area west of the Jordan River."
.. same old Bibi illegitimate line, more .. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/15/515391997/as-trump-and-netanyahu-meet-palestinians-watch-for-talk-of-two-state-plan
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Should the Palestinians Recognize Israel as a Jewish State?
No -- it's just another delaying tactic by Benjamin Netanyahu.
By Hussein Ibish
May 25, 2011
Should the Palestinians Recognize Israel as a Jewish State?
Most observers expected Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to target his harshest criticisms of the Palestinians during his U.S. trip on the Hamas-Fatah agreement. Surprisingly, his most important talking point turned out to be his demand for Palestinian recognition of Israel as a "Jewish state." To be sure, Netanyahu took every opportunity to denounce the Palestinian unity deal, compare Hamas to al Qaeda, and point out that some of its leaders had praised Osama bin Laden. But his most pointed, passionate, and persistent theme was that the core of the conflict, and the key to its solution, is that Palestine refuses to recognize Israel as a "Jewish state."
[...]
The idea that Palestinians need to formally recognize the "Jewish character" of Israel is relatively new. Indeed, it does not predate the Annapolis Conference of 2007, where it was briefly floated by the Israeli delegation. Back then, Palestinians rejected it as an irrelevant diversion from final-status issues such as borders, security, Jerusalem, and refugees. The George W. Bush administration wasn’t impressed either, and in his address at the conference President Bush simply referred to Israel as "a homeland for the Jewish people."
The historic requirement for the Palestinians was, in the words of U.N. Security Council Resolution 242, to recognize Israel’s "right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force." The Jewish state issue was never raised during Israel’s negotiations with Egypt and Jordan. The Palestine Liberation Organization formally recognized Israel in the Letters of Mutual Recognition in 1993, which were the basis for the Oslo process and all subsequent negotiations, while Israel merely recognized the PLO as the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people. The PLO then went through a torturous series of emendations of its core documents. The Palestinians had, at that point, fully satisfied all extant diplomatic and legal requirements regarding recognition of Israel, and waited in vain for Israel to recognize an independent state of Palestine in return.
[...]
Netanyahu’s demand is an additional and quite recent complication to an already tangled knot, but it has sunk so deeply into the Israeli and pro-Israel consciousness that some sort of language to satisfy it may ultimately have to be found. Reciprocal recognition of the Jewish right of self-determination in Israel and the Palestinian right of self-determination in Palestine might well prove a requisite final flourish on a peace agreement. But expecting or demanding Palestinians to embellish their already unrequited recognition of Israel with an extremely problematic, premature, and, at this stage, politically impossible statement about Israel as a "Jewish state" (again, whatever that might mean) can only be interpreted as another, and entirely gratuitous, obstacle to peace.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2011/05/25/should-the-palestinians-recognize-israel-as-a-jewish-state/
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How Many Times Must the Palestinians Recognize Israel?
Netanyahu’s new 'Jewish state' mantra negates the fact that Palestinians recognized
Israel more than twenty years ago. They’re still waiting for Israel to recognize Palestine.
Hussein Ibish Mar 13, 2014 4:30 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.579701
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Trump pivots from US commitment to two-state solution in Middle East
While asking Israeli PM Netanyahu to "hold back a little" on settlements, US President Trump
said he would accept a one-state solution to the Middle East conflict. Trump also said
Palestinians need to recognize Israel.
http://www.dw.com/en/trump-pivots-from-us-commitment-to-two-state-solution-in-middle-east/a-37571156
All of you would have seen before now t-rump's stare, and Bibif*'s laugh.
See also:
Why Israel is not a democracy BY TIM WISE
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=104975875
A Two-State Critic, and His Critics
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=92270007
Thou Shalt Not Kill (Thyself)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=73107084
The only satisfactory solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict
is a one-state solution, which is antithetical to Zionism.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=63898174
Flashback: Netanyahu discussed 1967 lines with Hillary — and there was no controversy
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=63506681
Hamas and Israel's "Right to Exist" .. YT Insert:
[the YT is dead]
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=62518789
.. those are also all linked here ..
Israel Claims Nearly 1,000 Acres of West Bank Land Near Bethlehem
By ISABEL KERSHNER AUG. 31, 2014
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=105827830
.. the know-no-details about failed negotiations in the past bellyflops again ..
"7 Things To Know About Israeli Settlements"
February 15, 201711:59 AM ET
Bill Chappell
President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu participate in a joint news conference in
the East Room of the White House on Wednesday.
Evan Vucci/AP
With differing messages emanating from the Trump administration about its stance on the two-state solution for in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, many eyes turned to President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for clarity on the issue at their joint news conference at the White House .. http://www.npr.org/2017/02/15/514986341/watch-live-trump-netanyahu-hold-joint-press-conference-at-white-house .. Wednesday.
"So I'm looking at two-state and one-state — and I like the one that both parties like," Trump said when asked about the subject alongside Netanyahu at the formal news conference around midday Wednesday.
"I'm very happy with the one that both parties like. I can live with either one," Trump continued. "I thought for a while the two-state looked like it may be the easier of the two, but honestly if Bibi and if the Palestinians — if Israel and the Palestinians are happy, I'm happy with the one they like the best."
In the Israeli leader's response to the same question, Netanyahu said he was concerned with substance, not labels. And he said his two main requirements for a peace deal haven't changed.
"First, the Palestinians must recognize the Jewish state. They have to stop calling for Israel's destruction," Netanyahu said.
Secondly, he added, "in any peace agreement, Israel must retain the overriding security control over the entire area west of the Jordan River."
.. same old Bibi illegitimate line, more .. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/15/515391997/as-trump-and-netanyahu-meet-palestinians-watch-for-talk-of-two-state-plan
--
Should the Palestinians Recognize Israel as a Jewish State?
No -- it's just another delaying tactic by Benjamin Netanyahu.
By Hussein Ibish
May 25, 2011
Should the Palestinians Recognize Israel as a Jewish State?
Most observers expected Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to target his harshest criticisms of the Palestinians during his U.S. trip on the Hamas-Fatah agreement. Surprisingly, his most important talking point turned out to be his demand for Palestinian recognition of Israel as a "Jewish state." To be sure, Netanyahu took every opportunity to denounce the Palestinian unity deal, compare Hamas to al Qaeda, and point out that some of its leaders had praised Osama bin Laden. But his most pointed, passionate, and persistent theme was that the core of the conflict, and the key to its solution, is that Palestine refuses to recognize Israel as a "Jewish state."
[...]
The idea that Palestinians need to formally recognize the "Jewish character" of Israel is relatively new. Indeed, it does not predate the Annapolis Conference of 2007, where it was briefly floated by the Israeli delegation. Back then, Palestinians rejected it as an irrelevant diversion from final-status issues such as borders, security, Jerusalem, and refugees. The George W. Bush administration wasn’t impressed either, and in his address at the conference President Bush simply referred to Israel as "a homeland for the Jewish people."
The historic requirement for the Palestinians was, in the words of U.N. Security Council Resolution 242, to recognize Israel’s "right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force." The Jewish state issue was never raised during Israel’s negotiations with Egypt and Jordan. The Palestine Liberation Organization formally recognized Israel in the Letters of Mutual Recognition in 1993, which were the basis for the Oslo process and all subsequent negotiations, while Israel merely recognized the PLO as the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people. The PLO then went through a torturous series of emendations of its core documents. The Palestinians had, at that point, fully satisfied all extant diplomatic and legal requirements regarding recognition of Israel, and waited in vain for Israel to recognize an independent state of Palestine in return.
[...]
Netanyahu’s demand is an additional and quite recent complication to an already tangled knot, but it has sunk so deeply into the Israeli and pro-Israel consciousness that some sort of language to satisfy it may ultimately have to be found. Reciprocal recognition of the Jewish right of self-determination in Israel and the Palestinian right of self-determination in Palestine might well prove a requisite final flourish on a peace agreement. But expecting or demanding Palestinians to embellish their already unrequited recognition of Israel with an extremely problematic, premature, and, at this stage, politically impossible statement about Israel as a "Jewish state" (again, whatever that might mean) can only be interpreted as another, and entirely gratuitous, obstacle to peace.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2011/05/25/should-the-palestinians-recognize-israel-as-a-jewish-state/
--
How Many Times Must the Palestinians Recognize Israel?
Netanyahu’s new 'Jewish state' mantra negates the fact that Palestinians recognized
Israel more than twenty years ago. They’re still waiting for Israel to recognize Palestine.
Hussein Ibish Mar 13, 2014 4:30 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.579701
--
Trump pivots from US commitment to two-state solution in Middle East
While asking Israeli PM Netanyahu to "hold back a little" on settlements, US President Trump
said he would accept a one-state solution to the Middle East conflict. Trump also said
Palestinians need to recognize Israel.
http://www.dw.com/en/trump-pivots-from-us-commitment-to-two-state-solution-in-middle-east/a-37571156
All of you would have seen before now t-rump's stare, and Bibif*'s laugh.
See also:
Why Israel is not a democracy BY TIM WISE
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=104975875
A Two-State Critic, and His Critics
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=92270007
Thou Shalt Not Kill (Thyself)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=73107084
The only satisfactory solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict
is a one-state solution, which is antithetical to Zionism.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=63898174
Flashback: Netanyahu discussed 1967 lines with Hillary — and there was no controversy
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=63506681
Hamas and Israel's "Right to Exist" .. YT Insert:
[the YT is dead]
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=62518789
.. those are also all linked here ..
Israel Claims Nearly 1,000 Acres of West Bank Land Near Bethlehem
By ISABEL KERSHNER AUG. 31, 2014
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=105827830
It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”
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