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I was surprised and disappointed to see Bill Binney on Alex Jones .. in fact i was prompted to go look at Binney again, and ended up with the one on the A Good American you replied to, on seeing your first Civil War Begins In Washington the first time you posted it in the link .. [ included at/see (linked in) http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=127878638 and preceding and following] you have provided again.

Thing is i've never seen clear evidence (and still haven't) of Bill Binney lying as Alex Jones does repeatedly .. lol, since i've found one small error he made in saying that Kennedy had been on the no-fly list .. down a bit in this one of 2012 ..

Binney feels that “Unfortunately, the state of our surveillance state is: all set, to be turned on for the imperial presidency to do whatever it wants to do.”

“The real kicker for me, after they came after us, pointed guns at us, was they also falsified evidence. They also did this to Tom Drake. They falsified the classification of materials.”

Question: to what extent can we assume the left hand always doesn't know what the right hand is doing?

Binney: That's always our government. Forrest Gump had it right. Stupid is as stupid does. That described our government. The problem is, incompetence at this scale is dangerous. You could end up on a kill list, without knowing what the criterion is to get on or off?

Q: Could you speculate as to whether any foreign agencies have compromised the DB?

A: Mueller did.

Q: Are there intelligence sharing agreements that would give them access?

A: Yes. It's called the 5 eyes group. The English speaking countries. They're much closer than others.

Q; What about other nation states?

A: They're all depending on NSA. There's nothing comparable.

Q: What about the data center in Utah?

A: The Bluffdale facility. Probably about 5 zetabytes of capacity in the facility. If you eliminate all the video, and analogue audio, and just pick up the material you want, that's enough to store 100 years of the world's communication data. 10 to the 21st bytes.

[...] .. haven't found the Binney mistake re Kennedy yet .. ok ..

Q: If you're doing crypto offline, will anything highlight you as a suspicious person? The fact that you're using encryption?

A: Generally the FBI says "If you're encrypting, you're suspicious." I don't know how many tics it takes to get on the hit list. Kennedy got on he no fly list! If he had problems, imagine the problems any of us would have! .. https://civic.mit.edu/blog/schock/the-government-is-profiling-you-william-binney-former-nsa

.. on reading that there was a tiny tinkle so i checked and found ..

It has been reported many times that Kennedy had trouble boarding planes several times in 2004 allegedly because he was on a no-fly list. But the TSA in 2008 said the former Democratic senator from Massachusetts was “NOT on the no-fly or selectee lists.” Kennedy was “misidentified” as someone on the “selectee list.” Those on the selectee list “must undergo additional security screening before being permitted to board.” Kennedy ultimately boarded his flights and didn’t miss any flights.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/ted-kennedy-and-the-no-fly-list-myth/

which was, and still is, the very first evidence i've seen of Bill Binney saying something that wasn't true .. now i see from your 2nd video that Binney doesn't believe the Russians leaked the Clinton emails to Wikileaks .. so is he right or not? .. US intelligence agencies and other cyber experts say it was the Russians .. Binney and others including Craig Murray ..

Craig Murray, the former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, who is a close associate of Assange, called the CIA claims “bullshit”, adding: “They are absolutely making it up.”

“I know who leaked them,” Murray said. “I’ve met the person who leaked them, and they are certainly not Russian and it’s an insider. It’s a leak, not a hack; the two are different things.

“If what the CIA are saying is true, and the CIA’s statement refers to people who are known to be linked to the Russian state, they would have arrested someone if it was someone inside the United States.

“America has not been shy about arresting whistleblowers and it’s not been shy about extraditing hackers. They plainly have no knowledge whatsoever.”
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=127158237

say the Russians were not behind the leak to Wikileaks .. one thing i have no doubt about is that the Alex Jones platform is not as valuable for Binney as having Binney on board is valuable to Jones .. i don't understand how Binney can applaud and enable Jones, knowing how much vicious conspiracy shit Jones blurts out .. maybe Binney doesn't know Jones that well, or maybe he does and just ignores the other as he sees Jones agreeing with him on much in the area of his own expertise .. thing is we all know that 'beneath most every conspiracy theory there is some truth', and seems Binney and Jones are lockstep in much of that truth .. truth to the extent that past CIA et al behavior and lies are of real concern .. which is positive in one way .. sadly Jones is given too much truth to use to support his more nuttier NWO fantasy.

Right now, to tell the truth, i've drifted from solidly believing the CIA et al .. and Christopher Steele ..

Former MI6 agent Christopher Steele's frustration as FBI sat on Donald Trump Russia file for months
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=127868073

have it right that the Russians were behind the Clinton hacked email leak to Wikileaks .. or whether Assange and his friend Craig Murray ..

A little simple logic demolishes the CIA’s claims. The CIA claim they “know the individuals” involved. Yet under Obama the USA has been absolutely ruthless in its persecution of whistleblowers, and its pursuit of foreign hackers through extradition. We are supposed to believe that in the most vital instance imaginable, an attempt by a foreign power to destabilise a US election, even though the CIA knows who the individuals are, nobody is going to be arrested or extradited, or (if in Russia) made subject to yet more banking and other restrictions against Russian individuals? Plainly it stinks. The anonymous source claims of “We know who it was, it was the Russians” are beneath contempt.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/12/cias-absence-conviction/

and others as

Jeffrey Carr [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Carr ]

Cybersecurity consultant; author, “Inside Cyber Warfare” ;
Founder, Suits and Spooks; Articles reflect the author’s personal views, not his employers or clients

Jul 26, 2016

Can Facts Slow The DNC Breach Runaway Train?
https://medium.com/@jeffreycarr/can-facts-slow-the-dnc-breach-runaway-train-lets-try-14040ac68a55#.2lejhcea1


No doubt i've forgotten something here which could get me back to a concrete position .. lol .. there is so much to be uncertain about .. f*it.