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Friday, 12/11/2015 9:10:47 AM

Friday, December 11, 2015 9:10:47 AM

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IMPORTANT:OTC Algorithm Manipulation-Must read and watch on L2s across otcland..

For anyone that has been noticing certain weird things happening when using ones etrade account and making purchases? Or watching strange trades going on like crazy. There has been an ABSURD amount of toying by certain mms CDEL NITE CSTI ETRF all etrade reflecting mms over past months but has progressed lately. If one has an etrade ever notice same amount being put on offer after u buy and or sold into bid after? Its getting deeeep. I know some big dogs and people that are connected that are becoming wise to this. This manipulation is not jus dilution and or tax loss sellers but thats exactly what this algorithm wants to cover their phantom selling naked shorting bs. This has been picking up steam over last months. All algo related via etrade and orchestrated imo by citadel/cdel clearing firm from what ive been seeing. And its happening across the board now! Watch for weird trades of same size after etrade buyer and for 10200s 20400s 40800 trades also happen. Im sure some are noticing this here. Keep this in mind as its VERY important and somethings got to give...hopefully soon. Because its downright illegal activity on their part whomever is behind this algo program phantom stuff. This MADNESS has to stop and they need to be dealt with! Its downright wrong.


We are talking about phantom inventory, naked shorting, boxing in, etc that has been picking up steam BIGTIME over past few months. Algorithm related trading which in turn hurts us traders/investors and companies. It is a system that once people see it first hand you will begin to see what I am talking about and im all about exposing this downright unfair and illegal mm/clearing firm/broker bs! This is different that anything I have seen in all my years of trading otcs. To the tune of over 20 years here. Ive seen it all. This is different. This is absurd. This is something EVERY trader/investor here should look into. Because we are being used and abused in most cases by these programs that were imo created for use in high frequency algorithm situations on big board stocks. Now being used in otcs. It is a downright wrong and imo illegal activity being done right in front of our faces across most every otc I have checked out over past weeks/months and watched. Others are indeed now starting to see this from ordinary traders to companies to other big dog investors etc. This is something that should not be allowed and once people see how bad it really is and others take notice well maybe then things will change. When it gets to the right people and is investigated. It is hurting companies and investors everyday. Causing major selloffs in lots of cases after this algo crap is activated. Im going to culminate a few of my posts here into 1 so if you see some of the same info in this long post its because I don't have the time to edit etc. But at least one can start to see this happening and look at things that shouldn't be happening.

Anyone onto these MM games lately? Seasoned traders/investors in otcs should really be looking into this as it happens across the board! Comes down to a few firms imo. These etrade and citadel games are nuts when one becomes wise to it. Its soo easy to read now too if one hawks L2s all day. Ever since I seen the light its crazy watching it happen firsthand all over. Always thought was basically stupid traders and toxic mofos etc lol. Yes lots of stupid traders/flippers out there that add to it. As well as pos funder mms. But for the most part lately I see that its algorithm cpu programs running in an all electronic marketplace in otcland. These plays will continue to get messed with unless a catalyst hits. Which is what we want of course. Except if no catalyst they aren't forced to cover/get shares back like on IRSB and KBIO did recently. They will mess around foreverrr it seems and will constantly sell phantoms and or naked short, etc over and over again against retail positions. Im sure if you have been watching L2s everyday in otcland you have been noticing cdel etrf nite csti games especially over past months moreso than ever before. Etrade routing mms are now NITE CDEL CSTI and ETRF. Keeping in mind Etrade is self clearing broker too but a firm that routes thru other firms not just their ETRF mm. Its happening on pretty much every stock it seems. This is different than what weve witnessed in the past as otc markets and electronic trading is adapting/growing. Not hard to see once one pins down the algorithm cpu bs etc. Weird trades on many plays across the boards 10200s 20400s 200s 100s are a few signs. Not just someone painting here and there most the time etc. It really truely opened my eyes to how things really work in otcland nowadays with these clowns messing around. But heres the beauteous part of the equation: This could equal LOTS of major runners sooner than later IF they get caught up on these plays like KBIO as of late. Especially more likely to have a that big cover spree if the floats are in tact with as minimal or no dilution into a catalyst. For example I guarantee all 3 offers on ADTC are phantoms now too CDEL NITE ETRF. They will play with positions like you wouldn't believe. Sometimes will throw up the EXACT size a retailer buys minutes later or sell that exact amount 1 just bought into bids. To the T. This is 1 of the main reason besides share structures why I keep collecting from nite cdel etrf on certain plays like ADTC BNXR. Soon as I realized it was happening there I said f it time to step up and park my shares. Happening on most everything im in/watching now. Anywhere where there is a concentrated Etrade position is my theory. Then Citadel starts to play with that etrade phantom sold positions and tries veryyy hard to hold stocks down and back. Key is not to let them get their shares back that they sold at cheaper prices because then their algo bs works perfectly for them. Unfortunately they win lots of the time. Especially into any toxic dilution. What I will keep doing is hitting them for more accordingly as permits on certain plays too. Because at the end of the day they will NEED to buy/get back those shares at some point just like they did on KBIO IRSB etc when they got triggered as of late. This is all veryy important to know if one is trying to really make a living in otcland. Need to be wise to the games. Stupid not to imo. Because if one plays their cards right into these games one can trade more wisely and hit it BIGGG. ADTC BNXR EFFI FERN BWVI SSFT UBQU XREG a few im hawking or in that these games are taking place daily. If anything hopefully this post will help a few to see these games take place and see thru it and how these big box brokers and a clearing firm like CDEL/Citadel can mess with our positions daily. If one has a etrade account keep watch to exactly what you hit when you come into a stock. Watch the games. All i know is I pray something gives at some point because it is down right not fair and manipulation at its finest. Keep close eye on CDEL NITE CSTI ETRF and again if have an etrade account you will notice these games I can almost guarantee it if you watch L2s.

Continued..

Im tryin to scramble to write this as im crunched for time lol. I wanted to add also if see weird 5-6 digit prints ie 00663 trade too and or along with the 10200s 20400s 40800s 200s 100s one can really see whats up first hand as well. Not just dilution trades at those extra decimal places. Most think it is at this point. Or one will also see the notorious cdel nite 10k offers that wont go away after hit multiple times. As well as immedietly down ticking or bid hitting following purchases. Sure sometimes those offers and sells are indeed dilution etc but lately its been happening on most every company ive seen so far in otcland.

The way to really see the light is when it happens on companies that have ZERO dilution. Then one can really see whats happening if using etrade to purchase shares or just if the majority of shares in a particular stock have a concentrated etrade position there. Which most do as etrade is the most popular broker nowadays accounting for the bulk of otc retail trades. It is a algorithm whom is selling phantoms and taking advantage of us retail traders/investors IMO via etrade and certain mms/clearing firms(Citadel mm cdel IMO which is evident if one watches this happen first hand)! But it is a flawed algo! Seen some algos pop up few years back but now it has been evolving like mad in this arena. Similar to high frequency algos on big boards. It is definitely wrong and to me seems highly illegal they can do this. Using it against us traders/investors as well as against most every companies well being. Holding companies down and playing with inventory they never really had to begin with. If someone starts buying a stock thru ones etrade and mysteriously all this extra stock shows up via those certain mms I mentioned then is easy to see it happen. As well as same amounts hitting bids and being offered as have mentioned too. Few different tell tale signs of this once one sees the light. And then the games begin.
Almost similar to what happened with the naked shorting of Overstock years ago. They fought hard to beat them and eventually did after a tough battle. That was from naked shorting and subsequent covering that took place when they were forced to come up with all that stock they toyed with. Can dig into lots of articles about Overstock and whats happening in otcland across the board is similar. With few more KEY elements at play of an adapting/changing/evolving computerized robotic, naked shorting, phantom selling program imo(get it?lol).

My take is the algos take it for granted that most will sell out for losses at some point if a stock dont move up much in the short term after one buys. Or this algo gets their stock back cheaper from other avenues ie dilution/toxic stuff that hits these markets on a regular basis. Sometimes then they are able to even out their books intraday instead of over days,weeks,months. This can indeed be broken via a company catalyst hitting especially if non etrade retailers come in and or if they get caught messing around too much and are forced to get inventory back in general. Been some huge runs that this did indeed occur. Also to note sometimes their inventory from day before they supposedly had stacked on offers disappears off the offers the following days mysteriously after messing around like mad days prior. Its insane.

Im super curious to see how this all pans out and really hoping people higher up ie SEC, FINRA, OTC Markets take notice ASAP and put a stop to this crap! As well as public otc companies here seeing this happen and taking steps to expose and stop this crap. Definitely does NOT make this a fair market! But I have a feeling Otcmarkets itself wont do much as they probably love that there is more transactions in their electronic marketplace. SEC and FINRA catch on id say they should really get reprimanded for selling fake inventory and overall manipulating/holding companies down. Lets see how this saga plays out and I hope it works out for us here sooner than later because its downright not fair and they are definitely not playing fair. Will see how this pans out.


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