Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:04:09 AM
Trump supporters embrace Muslim travel ban plan
By Jeremy Diamond, CNN
Updated 10:00 PM ET, Mon December 7, 2015 | Video Source: CNN
VIDEO
Story highlights
Trump expanded on his policy proposal announced earlier in the day
"We have to do it," Trump said
Mount Pleasant, South Carolina (CNN) Donald Trump acknowledged Monday during a raucous South Carolina rally that his call for barring all Muslim foreigners from entering the United States is "probably not politically correct."
But he had three words for his critics: "I don't care."
And if his South Carolina rally -- with its whoops and cheers -- was any indication, that support will stick.
Six of eight Trump supporters at the rally who spoke with CNN said they supported the Muslim travel ban, which has drawn swift criticism from other Republican and Democratic presidential contenders alike who slammed the proposal as contrary to American values of religious tolerance. And the two supporters at the rally who disagreed said they were still likely to vote for Trump.
"I think that we should definitely disallow any Muslims from coming in. Any of them. The reason is simple: we can't identify what their attitude is," said 75-year-old Charlie Marzka of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
Marzka explained that he believes Islam "allows for the killing of people" and said he thinks Muslim culture "is absolutely contrary to our culture."
In his Muslim travel ban pitch to rally-goers, Trump cited an online poll of Muslims commissioned by the controversial Center for Security Policy, a group that has been accused of peddling conspiracy theories about what it calls the "Global Jihad Movement."
That poll claimed that one-quarter of Muslims living in the United States believe jihadist violence against Americans is justified.
But Trump explained Monday on Fox News that his proposal would not apply to Muslim Americans and Muslims already living legally in the United States.
"It does not apply to people living in the country, except we have to be vigilant," Trump said on Fox News moments before he took the stage in South Carolina.
Trump introduced the proposal to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. to supporters here by remarking on the San Bernardino terror attack last week that killed 14 people.
And he warned supporters that without his controversial proposals -- which in addition to banning Muslim immigrants includes surveilling and potentially shutting down mosques -- the U.S. could face another deadly attack on the scale of 9/11.
"We're gonna have to figure it out, we can't live like this. It's going to get worse and worse, we're going to have more World Trade Centers. It's going to get worse and worse, folks. We can be politically correct and we can be stupid but it's going to be worse and worse," Trump added.
The controversial proposal comes as Trump's poll numbers have continued to rise with the latest national CNN/ORC poll showing Trump leading the field of Republican presidential contenders by 20 points with 36% of support.
But while most of his GOP presidential rivals .. http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/index.html .. and the three Republican Party chairmen of early voting states Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina decried the proposal .. http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-travel-ban-early-states/index.html , Trump's base is enthusiastically embracing it.
Hoyt Wood, a 68-year-old military veteran who attended Trump's South Carolina rally, said, "Islam is not a religion."
"It's a violent blood cult. OK? That's what Islam is ... all they know is violence, that's all they know. It's not a peace-loving religion," he said, before specifying that "not all of them" are violent people.
Several Trump supporters said they agreed with Trump's proposal to ban all Muslim immigration because they said it was hard to tell where Muslims' allegiances lie.
"We can't look at a Muslim and tell if they're a terrorist or friendly," 55-year-old Susan Kemmelin said.
While Trump said his call for a ban on Muslim immigration would not affect Muslims already living in the U.S., he spoke at length about Muslims residing in America and suggested many are not trustworthy, prompting some Trump supporters to chant "send 'em home."
But one protester's voice -- one of five protester interruptions on Monday night -- broke through the cheers.
"This is racist bulls--t," he chanted.
But even the Trump supporters who disagreed Monday night with Trump's call to ban Muslim immigrants said they would likely still be supporting the candidate when the state's primary rolls around right after Iowa and New Hampshire's first-in-the-nation contests.
One was Tim Newman, a 51-year-old Marine Corps veteran who lost a leg while serving with the State Department in Iraq.
"I spent four-and-a-half years in Iraq before I got hurt and there's a lot of great Muslim people on the planet," Newman said, adding that he fought for the religious freedoms the U.S. Constitution guarantees.
But still, he's sticking with Trump.
Hopefully Trump, who prides himself on his negotiating talent, will push "a hugely radical idea" and then settle "for what the country will allow him to do," Newman said.
"Somewhere along the way there's going to be a meeting of the minds, and the answer's going to be somewhere in the middle of this," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-travel-ban-rally/
Well, "barring all Muslim foreigners from entering the United States is" obviously paranoid xenophobic and fearmongering bigoted pretentious bullshit rhetoric as any individual
could ever hope to sputter .. i was going to suggest if you want America to be seen as the Putinized of the West then vote for Trump .. now will just simply say if you want the USA to be
the laughing stock of the world, vote for Trump .. the dangerously ego-maniacal guy obviously doesn't seriously give a shit about anyone but himself .. sad to see he is fooling so many.
See also:
The GOP on the Eve of Destruction
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118970406
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118996450
need a Kleenex? there is nothing as sad as a constant passive/aggressive innuendo monger who plays the victim when people respond
in a more direct fashion than your posts about what others think, and that everyone but you thinks in lock-step with each other.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118993204
Right-wing extremists plotting violent attacks on US Muslims, FBI warns
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118923930 .. with a collection of memes/images, whatever you call them ..
PS: sad to see he is fooling so many now, yet happy to believe, in the end, Trump will understand he was fooling himself most of all.
By Jeremy Diamond, CNN
Updated 10:00 PM ET, Mon December 7, 2015 | Video Source: CNN
VIDEO
Story highlights
Trump expanded on his policy proposal announced earlier in the day
"We have to do it," Trump said
Mount Pleasant, South Carolina (CNN) Donald Trump acknowledged Monday during a raucous South Carolina rally that his call for barring all Muslim foreigners from entering the United States is "probably not politically correct."
But he had three words for his critics: "I don't care."
And if his South Carolina rally -- with its whoops and cheers -- was any indication, that support will stick.
Six of eight Trump supporters at the rally who spoke with CNN said they supported the Muslim travel ban, which has drawn swift criticism from other Republican and Democratic presidential contenders alike who slammed the proposal as contrary to American values of religious tolerance. And the two supporters at the rally who disagreed said they were still likely to vote for Trump.
"I think that we should definitely disallow any Muslims from coming in. Any of them. The reason is simple: we can't identify what their attitude is," said 75-year-old Charlie Marzka of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
Marzka explained that he believes Islam "allows for the killing of people" and said he thinks Muslim culture "is absolutely contrary to our culture."
In his Muslim travel ban pitch to rally-goers, Trump cited an online poll of Muslims commissioned by the controversial Center for Security Policy, a group that has been accused of peddling conspiracy theories about what it calls the "Global Jihad Movement."
That poll claimed that one-quarter of Muslims living in the United States believe jihadist violence against Americans is justified.
But Trump explained Monday on Fox News that his proposal would not apply to Muslim Americans and Muslims already living legally in the United States.
"It does not apply to people living in the country, except we have to be vigilant," Trump said on Fox News moments before he took the stage in South Carolina.
Trump introduced the proposal to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. to supporters here by remarking on the San Bernardino terror attack last week that killed 14 people.
And he warned supporters that without his controversial proposals -- which in addition to banning Muslim immigrants includes surveilling and potentially shutting down mosques -- the U.S. could face another deadly attack on the scale of 9/11.
"We're gonna have to figure it out, we can't live like this. It's going to get worse and worse, we're going to have more World Trade Centers. It's going to get worse and worse, folks. We can be politically correct and we can be stupid but it's going to be worse and worse," Trump added.
The controversial proposal comes as Trump's poll numbers have continued to rise with the latest national CNN/ORC poll showing Trump leading the field of Republican presidential contenders by 20 points with 36% of support.
But while most of his GOP presidential rivals .. http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/index.html .. and the three Republican Party chairmen of early voting states Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina decried the proposal .. http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-travel-ban-early-states/index.html , Trump's base is enthusiastically embracing it.
Hoyt Wood, a 68-year-old military veteran who attended Trump's South Carolina rally, said, "Islam is not a religion."
"It's a violent blood cult. OK? That's what Islam is ... all they know is violence, that's all they know. It's not a peace-loving religion," he said, before specifying that "not all of them" are violent people.
Several Trump supporters said they agreed with Trump's proposal to ban all Muslim immigration because they said it was hard to tell where Muslims' allegiances lie.
"We can't look at a Muslim and tell if they're a terrorist or friendly," 55-year-old Susan Kemmelin said.
While Trump said his call for a ban on Muslim immigration would not affect Muslims already living in the U.S., he spoke at length about Muslims residing in America and suggested many are not trustworthy, prompting some Trump supporters to chant "send 'em home."
But one protester's voice -- one of five protester interruptions on Monday night -- broke through the cheers.
"This is racist bulls--t," he chanted.
But even the Trump supporters who disagreed Monday night with Trump's call to ban Muslim immigrants said they would likely still be supporting the candidate when the state's primary rolls around right after Iowa and New Hampshire's first-in-the-nation contests.
One was Tim Newman, a 51-year-old Marine Corps veteran who lost a leg while serving with the State Department in Iraq.
"I spent four-and-a-half years in Iraq before I got hurt and there's a lot of great Muslim people on the planet," Newman said, adding that he fought for the religious freedoms the U.S. Constitution guarantees.
But still, he's sticking with Trump.
Hopefully Trump, who prides himself on his negotiating talent, will push "a hugely radical idea" and then settle "for what the country will allow him to do," Newman said.
"Somewhere along the way there's going to be a meeting of the minds, and the answer's going to be somewhere in the middle of this," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-travel-ban-rally/
Well, "barring all Muslim foreigners from entering the United States is" obviously paranoid xenophobic and fearmongering bigoted pretentious bullshit rhetoric as any individual
could ever hope to sputter .. i was going to suggest if you want America to be seen as the Putinized of the West then vote for Trump .. now will just simply say if you want the USA to be
the laughing stock of the world, vote for Trump .. the dangerously ego-maniacal guy obviously doesn't seriously give a shit about anyone but himself .. sad to see he is fooling so many.
See also:
The GOP on the Eve of Destruction
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118970406
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118996450
need a Kleenex? there is nothing as sad as a constant passive/aggressive innuendo monger who plays the victim when people respond
in a more direct fashion than your posts about what others think, and that everyone but you thinks in lock-step with each other.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118993204
Right-wing extremists plotting violent attacks on US Muslims, FBI warns
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118923930 .. with a collection of memes/images, whatever you call them ..
PS: sad to see he is fooling so many now, yet happy to believe, in the end, Trump will understand he was fooling himself most of all.
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