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Awesome post Jeunke. Thanks so much for sharing one on one conversations from the meeting a week ago. THAT's why you go talk to the company in person. That is not something they can't say (despite what a few shorts here decry), and it is extremely encouraging to us holding in anticipation of news soon. I cannot thank you enough for these reflections from the recent meeting.
Our day is coming soon!
Best to the longs,
F2
I doubt it. Your ID was created 4 days ago. And you start out critical. You don't want answers, you want to sow doubt. Please...
If you were seriously looking for answers, you wouldn't act like you have toward a legacy investor here (Jeunke - not me). He has done so much for this stock. That said, I have also been here for 17 years... I can smell what's right and what isn't. Why not call the company, read EVERYTHING and do real DD. YOURSELF.
Not your style huh? Cause you are not long here...
Best to the longs,
F2
So I ask this in all seriousness Proto. (It's not what I want, but I am going to ask it.) What prevents an NVDA from seeing what this is worth and saying, "We want to company at 5B?" ($42 a share roughly). Or something similar... Do I think the company is worth much more... emphatically, YES! But as the stakes get higher and higher, I wonder what would prevent a giant from making an offer like that ... and if it did is there, anything beyond a vote of shareholders (can't remember if there is a poison pill or not)...
22 days till ASM. Look forward to seeing you and everyone else soon,
F2
Another 'new' short. Don't tell me you met Jeunke. You didn't. Your style in 10 posts in last 5 days is the same... of every other short. You have earned the ignore button like the rest. Wolves in sheep's clothing...
Best to the longs,
F2
That’s a GREAT post Jeunke and absolutely true. When we surprise the market, everything will change forever. I too am convinced this will happen. In the meantime the share price is what it is… all thru great manipulation of course.
Best to the longs,
F2
And 6 weeks ish from ASM. From the investor side, management has strong incentive to close things out before we meet. So the meeting with investors in Europe and the annual shareholder meeting are big deals. To investors. I hear what you’re saying on the technical side. I also believe they are significant and it’s very important for management to show continued progress, the closing of deals. So my anticipation for news flow in the next six weeks is actually extremely high.
Plus, every day that goes by, the reality of what data centers need will drive deals getting done. It’s not just one-sided, and the energy consumption valuation is beyond tremendous for data center operators…. There’s extremely strong incentive to make things happen from both sides, so my anticipation is very high.
F2
This is only 2 weeks away. I can’t wait to see what we see in terms of continued news flow between now and then as well as here. The reports that come out of that meeting. Thank you so much Jeunke.
Best to the longs,
F2
You are going to love it. I saw when they did the first tour. This one is going to be awesome. Seeing the demonstration is going to be worth it. And we have a GREAT group of investors. Hoping the Belgium contingent can make it this year. It’s been a few years since I have seen Walter.
As you will see, there are some tremendous investors that read here (own way more shares than me) and that never post (but read most). You will be blessed. We have great leadership and this year is going to be well worth it.
Can’t wait to meet you at the ASM,
F2
Lew, I did book my trip and stay at the Inverness today. (2 nights - I guess that was the catch) but from where I am coming from, I was never going to stay one night anyway. I look forward to seeing you and everyone else soon.
A great week for the company! Best to the longs,
F2
Yes, I am working on making reservations probably tonight to be honest. Got to do some teaching and then I will be working on that.
F2
KCC… a question and a thought: I remember you saying recently, that almost nothing surprises now because of the white papers that are written. And I also remember you looking toward an event like this. I know this is not the announcement of a working prototype yet, nor a tier 1 contract, but can you say more about how big of an achievement this is at this point for the company…
My question. How surprising is this within the industry do you think?
My thought is that this is the kind of news that takes days to sync in and sink in for partners, investors and competition alike. This is not a one day news kind of pop, but some thing that will continue to induce accumulation as investors know companies will have to go to Lightwave now. As Dr. Lebby said in the release, polymers are now here to stay.
I also think it’s a door begins to really open for companies to realize they must own this technology. I do. I wonder what kind of conversations will happen now in the background and boardrooms of competing companies. I mean just honestly think of what a massive advantage it would be if a data center giant wanted to control the technology.
Those conversations are getting more real after this…
Best to the longs,
F2
Thanks so much!!!
F2
A LOT of accumulation today and specifically this afternoon. “Investors” joyfully wait patiently. I have still at 4.66 a share smoked the S&P 500 in the last 5 years with this investment. I know where this is going and am simply over the moon at what this company has accomplished. Shorts can say anything, but I know the truth that they are simply scared. I truly see hockey stick growth coming… or a massive, massive buyout. Either way, longs win! This is worth so much more. Thanks Dr. Lebby and team, incredible achievement. Truly incredible.
Best to the longs,
F2
A “tell” from Google have EOP on their slides is EXACTLY right. Can someone post those slides again… I forget where they were but want to look close again. That is stunningly awesome for our future!
So very glad to be a shareholder here. What a week!!!
Best to the longs,
F2
That’s a truly mind boggling possibility. Talk about the money that would mean for shareholders…
Wow
Best to the longs,
F2
Funny, was just looking at flights, etc. trying to remember, is it better to call the hotel directly and say we are part of the group…? Look forward to seeing you again Lew.
Best to the longs,
F2
Vol and price climbing… They are in deep trouble and they know it. I have the new ID on ignore now as well. Just like the old…
F2
Vol. Creeping up too. I would start to get nervous if I was short…
F2
Shorts are in trouble, and that’s that. We all make our decisions. Why shorts have doubled down for the last 15 months or so is beyond me. But the piper is about to come calling.
What does it say that institutions after talking with Dr. Lebby in the last year continue to accumulate at extraordinary levels. Shorts are in big, big, big time trouble. Institutions who do their own DD disagree with the shorts and THEY are doubling down every Q now. To the tune of 31.7 million and accumulating.
I would figure out an exit position real fast. Shorts know now the science is real and they got caught with both hands in the cookie jar.
Is it cheaper to exit now or when the tier-1 partnership release hits the wires?
That’s what you have to ask yourself if you are short. Because those are your options.
Best to the longs,
F2
The shorts just keep digging a deeper hole. It’s truly unbelievable to me. The fire they are playing with is astounding at this point. Astounding. Thanks everyone for great contributions … I read, just don’t have as much to offer as the science is long past me now.
I am, however, very grateful for those who make it easier to understand and who report on ‘location’ from OFC, Belgium and around the world. Great days are ahead…
Best to the longs,
F2
If that were to happen Vein, it’s 100 dollar stock and a massive short squeeze. Instantaneously. Probably higher because of the short squeeze.
How close are we? No idea. But IF that were PR’d, all hell would simply break loose. 22 million friends would raise the price of shares beyond my imagining.
Real question is if shorts see after slides today, the writing on the wall… and begin to cover… we will see.
Best to the longs,
F2
Even the rumor of this (seeing these slides and making my own interpretation) is simply incredible. I can’t believe Google could well be our Tier 1. Wow.
Best to the longs,
F2
Thanks KCC. Great post. The thought that they are being asked to have 2 sources for production of material is such a great indicator of the inevitability of a deal being worked out... and the size of the one making sure they (we) are good to go. Thanks so much always for your insight. I truly appreciate.
Best to the longs,
F2
I would love to see others weigh in that can read and understand but the 4 to 500 GHz in the modulator, that’s incredible speed. 500 gigahertz sounds like an 800 Gb per second modulator, does it not? KCC and others am I off-base in this?
Best to the longs,
F2
No way that’s true. Come to the ASM and prove us wrong. But your words have from the beginning. We all know you are short… period.
Nervous? I would be if I were you?
F2
(Warning: Long post). So it is retail. Rkf, thanks for your helping me here, I sincerely appreciate. I know you KNOW what can and can't be done via disclosure by managed funds, and I so appreciate you weighing in. That helps me personally as I have tried now for 2 years to wrap my head around the decision making of the group of shorts. There is so much I simply don't 'get' in what their logic might have been and especially where a short's head is at now.
Here are a few musings I have thought about in the time the shorts entered in to Lightwave Logic. To start with, some will remember, I started believing what we were seeing were large funds (all the Blackrock's and Vanguards of the investing world) trading short with algorithms designed to induce panic selling by longs so they could all the while load up on shares themselves. Where my head was at here was a belief that those funds could balance out (hedge) their long position and try to induce panic selling by longs so they could buy at a targeted price until news broke (where they would cover short shares and hold their long shares with a squeeze) that could benefit them and crush any retail shorts that are only playing it one sided.
Now, knowing by regulation that's not possible it only leaves open two possibilities in my mind.
Option one: The retail shorts are using the same strategy themselves and are really long, trying to acquire what they can while playing it both ways. I suppose this is still possible, though I don't think it likely. We haven't seen any 5% ownership filings and I can't believe there is a consortium of individual investors that are this organized in really trying to buy shares. I believe the retail shorts are simply short, ala Ockham's Razor, "the simplest explanation is usually the best one."
Option two: As someone pointed out a week ago, the shorting could be done by competing corporations trying to limit/hurt our company. Yet again, logic falls apart here as they would have to disclose holdings if they as an entity were short the kind of shares we have witnessed here.
So, logic simply leads (me) to see this group as retail shorts... That in itself leads me to wonder about all kinds of questions. But let's start with this:
It made sense (in hindsight) for retail shorts to enter in when the stock shot up to $20 a share... and then $15 and even $10 dollars a share...back when material was being tested and their were no reliability data sheets (like have been released since), etc.
The initial move was so dynamic at the time and early. I didn't want to admit it was premature as a very long term shareholder, but I accept my bias and while I held, looking back, it made all the sense in the world for shorts to enter in at that time. Now what I don't understand is the long term play here for shorts. (What were they thinking when they could have covered for a tidy profit a year ago for example?) Why have they only continued to expand their risk position while they could see managed funds, some of the biggest and most successful and sophisticated (Blackrock/Vanguard) have had an insatiable appetite for accumulating and increasing ownership position each quarter since the NASDAQ uplist.
How could the shorts put themselves in the place where they would be unable to cover should there be more partnership news, a first buyout offer, a rumor or anything else that could cause a squeeze? What has been inconceivable (to me) is that they didn't work to exit their position when they could have even a year to a year and a half ago.
Now... I know there are many who simply short pre-revenue companies as a 'basket' and it especially made sense during the time of sharp rising interest rates that we saw to fight inflation 2 years ago. We all know how rising interest rates can be painfully brutal for small companies, restricting access to capital, etc. Yet, how did this group of retail shorts go this deep, to the tune of 22 million shares short... and to hold through the leveling/cooling off of rates? Why didn't they try to take an exit down at $4, $5, even when it was in the $3's even if starting to cover would have caused a return to the present, artificially depressed price? There really is no reason unless you believe the company simply will not make it as a going entity. Again, the basket theory holds here. So many pre-revenue companies do go belly up, that I suppose I can see the logic in seeing this that way... again, 2 years ago.
Yet any amount of research here quickly will lead a retail short to see that the company has several very strong factors in it's favor that should be strongly considered when making such a large investment where an investor can literally be trapped as shorts can. Impeccable, industry leading directors and Dr. Michael Lebby who is really 'the' visionary leader in the photonics field. That should be a huge red flag to a short. The directors and our CEO are truly world class and no matter what a short might insinuate, they will fail to find anything of substance against the board of directors or our CEO.
Then add into this, the truly explosive nature of the company's product offering, the critical mass facing data centers for needed order of magnitude transformation and now the insatiable hunger AI is placing on the challenge of moving data faster, cheaper, greener, etc. Add to that, the ramp up they have seen of company hirings, especially in the area of business development. A company doesn't make these hires if they aren't confident/trending toward development, contracts and company maturity. Any amount of research quickly reveals how 3-5 years ago, Dr. Lebby was directly involved and LEADING in laying out 'the' roadmap for the industry here toward needed change. Now we are watching it come together in real time. March and April will be revelatory. The words Dr. Lebby has used, seeing the technology as 'ubiquitous' is something you don't say at risk of SEC reprisal unless you are leading a company successfully through development.
So now my questions for which I really don't have an answer: Have the shorts been as greedy in hoping for a lower low that I and other longs were when longs held (or bought more) when the share price hit $20 dollars after NASDAQ uplist? Is what we are watching really that simple? Why would shorts choose to hold and pay interest for such a long term play here? How organized is short collective? With price appreciation, how fast will we see breaks in the armor of the short collective? For example, what happens when a few begin to blink and cover? Do the shorts really believe it's going to zero at this point? (That's perhaps the only thing that could make me hold a position IF I were short, but how incredibly risky in light of all the mounting evidence of the potential for the company to be a huge winner? Why, when it became obvious here, that the company had accessed and managed finances brilliantly, (and there is no change of running out of funds for a rolling 18 month window, why did they not adjust by de-risking their own potentially unlimited liability? Are we really watching a 'head in the sand' approach by shorts as has been speculated by so many here?
Ok... very long post, but things I have wondered about in the last 2 years..
Best to the longs, these are truly exciting days....
F2
Sounds like a group is really nervous, but has no vested interest here in terms of share ownership. Why is that by the way?
Never heard you comment on that…
Best to the longs,
F2
Pure manipulation close. Their day is coming…
F2
Honestly, I don’t ‘like’ the way this is written, I love it! There is no way in my mind this does not tell that deals are being closed and will be revealed soon. Every word written here is confident, crisp, reflecting reality rather than ambiguous possibility. We are truly about to be golden. Not if/just when, and I don’t think it’s long. I didn’t catch this yesterday, but this is huge.
May or may not affect those maxed out shorts, but there day is very soon coming to an end.
Best to all the longs here,
F2
Now that makes sense. Total sense. Lord, I hope for a backstory one day….
F2
I believe the value of ALL these, things we have seen and pointed out for a while, 3 huge order or magnitude factors: speed, size and power savings are absolutely why this process of closing framework deals, (on which others will be based), is what’s taking the most time.
But tomorrow is a new day. And to the shorts, look at the lineup in Roc’s post for Dr. Lebby’s invited talk. Wowzer! (But of course it must be a sham… he’s manipulating everyone, etc. while he talks side by side with the likes of Tower and IMEC.). Yeah right….
X, there is definitely a holy crap, there is “getting squeezed value” which could be simply astronomical, and there is a value attached to the unbelievably unique and valuable elite factors and they could make it also astronomical.
So what happens when a release is put out say tomorrow that we have a deal finally worked out with a Tower or Global Foundry for the next 5 years and all the accompanying fan fare that goes along with it?
Let’s see, what’s astronomical x astronomical = ?
That’s what shorts are staring at EVERY SINGLE DAY NOW…
Would not want to be on the other side… and our day is coming…
Soon
F2
Tower and Lightwave involved in the same talk…. Ok. I am listening… 😉😉😉
F2
Pressure building. How long in absence of the next closed deal, a big one, can they go (the shorts) with what is/will be building expectation. This is going to go in the opposite direction they anticipate…
F2
Lew, buyout at $297 a share. I will have to accept it I reckon… 😉
F2
Exactly… unless that has changed and it’s gotten smaller ☺️☺️☺️
F2
What I don’t get is what is their end game? I mean seriously? Do they think it’s going belly-up, and that’s their way out? Who puts down that kind of coin and doesn’t know more info on who the players/potential/need etc.? They ones at 9 bucks and at 20 bucks have made great money. But most are at a vastly lower price point. Why did they do this? And as for the lab, they have had 6 months to work out an exit strategy but only work to tamper price down like today (except today… whoops, strike 1, swing and a miss)
There are so many questions I would love to ask one day on a post-mortem of the shorts here. I mean now they are staring down the barrel of March 24-28 OFC. There are SO many things that could happen between now and then. And optimism coming from last week’s conference as well…
I honestly, simply don’t get it. Who does this in this scale… and when do they admit defeat without becoming GameStop. Cause that’s coming. Longs continue to accumulate and so do institutions. And so do shorts. The math just doesn’t work.
If I were really, really, really dumb I would look only at one thing if I were shorts. The managers at Blackrock and Vanguard ONLY KEEP BUYING. EVERY QUARTER! And I would confess, come to and realize, I am not as smart as the guys and the tools they have in the room. And I would figure out my danged exit strategy as a retail short, and I would do it quick. Regardless of what my buddies are doing.
That’s what I don’t get. But I don’t have to get it because I am on the other side of the ledger with some wicked smart shareholders I know, with Blackrock, Vanguard (these are managed funds to the contrary of what they say every post ad nauseam - and thanks Lewrock)… and one Dr. Michael Lebby who is leading a whole roadmap forward in this frontier…
So except for my deviated septum, I am sleeping very good.
Best to the longs,
F2
So you are saying they have borrowed 17K shares and it’s up .38. Fascinating…
F2
We all know why. So very laughable. So nefarious. Disingenuous. Deceptive. Manipulative. Incorrigible. Precocious. The list goes on. And short! 22 million.
Can’t wait for a trading halt announcement. It’s coming soon…
Best to the longs,
F2
“Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.”
F2
Totally agree… I can see the ‘whites in their eyes’… it’s coming to that time where the battle is about to truly unfold… and what we are seeing under their unbridled manipulation and deception… is fear! Fear, fear, fear…
I am excited about seeing Dr. Lebby’s vision unfold. We are but one announcement away from everything they have said going up in smoke FOREVER! And it is about to happen. Soon… I think very, very soon. Because I trust Dr. Lebby has been and is working on closing deals …
Best to the longs,
F2