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dam i mised out . i would of bought in at 6.80
tripple top might break out of 7.70 res
R U STILL IN ARSC???????? told u it was a scam all along
thanks man . i know it will crash. no one knows when but :))
hydra 2001 ... they will dilute on that .like they did arsc
IMO they will do a R/S before they give the divy. i dont trust frank. they couldnt deliver 1 cell to the towers kinda makes you think.. no-bid once agian after almost 2.5 bill volume /
get out while you still can my friend . this aint going no wear. after 2.5 bill and still no bid is a joke
GLTU2 my friend. This probably won't mean much to you now but...
http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=2igAVUAnFoFnSLCyVa2%252fpw%253d%253d&nt7=0
Oh yeah, watch the markets close, they are expected to crash hard and heavy sometime in May.
take care . i sold off. i think that gay ceo will do a R/S before they give the div thats y they went on default... so they will be taken out of reporting then r/s
like u said arsc ceo printing press , no intention of any fuel cells
GLTU my friend !!!
Luv posting info about posters/bashers to see if it is correct, and having it deleted. Just doing my job...LOL!!!
Enjoy what is coming in the next few weeks my friend. It has been quite a ride!
ARSC PR monday with details...
Winning!!!!
lol mmech called you girlfriend, then he called you a maggot!
It's gotta be a NY thing!
i dont even pay attention to vndm ..
hes a fake asss ... looks like he needs to cover and frankie aint giving anymore cheap shares
Up his ask to 10 mill, classic bs!
priase the lord on that :)
Should be no more .00002 hits. Yeah, .00002, not .00007 is what the daily short covers were.
Would love to get out of this one, the sooner the better!!!
is that a good thing? :)
VNDM is no longer accepting offers on the bid as of 9:53 A.M.
very interesting. looks like vndm has alot of short to cover trying to keep this down that fuck
good work
Ahhhhh, one of your foes at arsc i believe is named Mike and lives in NY. (And yeah, supports Obamy too, go figure!)
Notice vndm ask size 5,000,000 here http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/ARSC/quote
and then 1,553,600 here http://www.thegreenbaron.com/
Looking at March 14 here, that is if hydra is still viable!
oooo IBIS long time no see.
thanks, i will fil a compliant with the sec . they were the ones that naked shorted this down fron .0004 to no bid in 2 days
we should get a crew make a hole bunch of compliants
good work
Been awhile.
Little info for ya on VNDM and their wall.
Look for third party interests that Vandham Sec. has in green energy. Google this "third parties to Energy Compass". 7 hits down should be the vandham link. Direct link here. http://www.vandham.com/Third-Party-Services.asp Search around all things "energy compass" wise, read between the lines, ARSC and Hydra are polar opposites in third party vested interests with VNDM.
Search further with keywords, and find lawsuits filed against VNDM by companys that VNDM financialy destroyed the same way they are doing to ARSC. It's all the third party thing!
The new mm rules and regs. won't stop VNDM. Only way is to file sec comps, imo.
L8r.
they still delete it.. u can post it if you dont reply to some one then they cant delete it
LOL, censored in a free zone. Guess you can’t even quote directly someones posts now without it being considered an attack. Maybe if you change your intro message for the board to: Toohips Quotes From Messages Posted on ihub or something.
I mean dude, I can go to a board here at ihub and look at a picture of a hot naked blond chic in a subservient pose in the sex and videos board. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=16048 Maybe rezone this to the politics zone.
loool, see u next week amigo merry christmas
Cover me for a few, gotta run for a death stick and a few ying yangs for the tree. This is good for a laugh: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/freed-detainee-claims-jewish-interrogators-practiced-witchcraft-at-gitmo/
Cert time remains the same, two years, one years or even 10 years. Still running the business plan as stated, economy changed the timing.
THats 2 year old! Call the company and ask about the Certification. I bet you wont hear the same thing now
So you dont think the 10,000,000,000 shares added within last year had anything to do with where we are? LOL
lool smoke a cuban cig :)
The following statement was in the original plans from a shareholders meeting (8-k on July 11, 2008) but due to financial sectors troubles it fell through.
"....From the first production run a unit will be sent to the certifying agency, CSA-International, for them to complete their process. That process is expected to take less than 60 days from the time they receive the commercial version of the fuel cell."
Day 2 ("I HAVE BEGUN") of no tobacco and I need a f'n cigar! These super high nic E-Cigs just ain't cuttin it.
KNOW THE SIGNS OF CELLAR BOXING
What is cellar boxing:
Naked shorting into $0.0001, or, **Cellar Boxing**
There’s a form of the securities fraud known as naked short selling that is becoming very popular and lucrative to the Market Makers that practice it. It is known as “Cellar boxing” and it has to do with the fact that the NASD and the SEC had to arbitrarily set a minimum level at which a stock can trade. This level was set at $.0001 or one-one hundredth of a penny. This level is appropriately referred to as “the cellar”. This $.0001 level can be used as a "backstop" for all kinds of market maker and naked short selling manipulations.
“Cellar boxing” has been one of the security frauds du jour since 1999 when the market went to a “decimalization” basis. In the pre-decimalization days the minimum market spread for most stocks was set at 1/8th of a dollar and the market makers were guaranteed a healthy “spread”. Since decimalization came into effect, those one-eighth of a dollar spreads now are often only a penny as you can see in Microsoft’s quote throughout the day. Where did the unscrupulous MMs go to make up for all of this lost income? They headed "south" to the OTCBB and Pink Sheets where the protective effects from naked short selling like Rule 10-a, and NASD Rules 3350, 3360, and 3370 are nonexistent.
The unique aspect of needing an arbitrary “cellar” level is that the lowest possible incremental gain above this cellar level represents a 100% spread available to MMs making a market in these securities. When compared to the typical spread in Microsoft of perhaps four-tenths of 1%, this is pretty tempting territory. In fact, when the market is no bid to $.0001 offer there is theoretically an infinite spread.
In order to participate in “cellar boxing”, the MMs first need to pummel the price per share down to these levels. The lower they can force the share price, the larger are the percentage spreads to feed off of. This is easily done via garden variety naked short selling. In fact if the MM is large enough and has enough visibility of buy and sell orders as well as order flow, he can simultaneously be acting as the conduit for the sale of nonexistent shares through Canadian co-conspiring broker/dealers and their associates with his right hand at the same time that his left hand is naked short selling into every buy order that appears through its own proprietary accounts. The key here is to be a dominant enough of a MM to have visibility of these buy orders. This is referred to as "broker/dealer internalization" or naked short selling via "desking" which refers to the market makers trading desk. While the right hand is busy flooding the victim company's market with "counterfeit" shares that can be sold at any instant in time the left hand is nullifying any upward pressure in share price by neutralizing the demand for the securities. The net effect becomes no demonstrable demand for shares and a huge oversupply of shares which induces a downward spiral in share price.
In fact, until the "beefed up" version of Rule 3370 (Affirmative determination in writing of "borrowability" by settlement date) becomes effective, U.S. MMs have been "legally" processing naked short sale orders out of Canada and other offshore locations even though they and the clearing firms involved knew by history that these shares were in no way going to be delivered. The question that then begs to be asked is how "the system" can allow these obviously bogus sell orders to clear and settle. To find the answer to this one need look no further than to Addendum "C" to the Rules and Regulations of the NSCC subdivision of the DTCC. This gaping loophole allows the DTCC, which is basically the 11,000 b/ds and banks that we refer to as "Wall Street”, to borrow shares from those investors naive enough to hold these shares in "street name" at their brokerage firm. This amounts to about 95% of us. Theoretically, this “borrow” was designed to allow trades to clear and settle that involved LEGITIMATE 1 OR 2 DAY delays in delivery. This "borrow" is done unbeknownst to the investor that purchased the shares in question and amounts to probably the largest "conflict of interest" known to mankind. The question becomes would these investors knowingly loan, without compensation, their shares to those whose intent is to bankrupt their investment if they knew that the loan process was the key mechanism needed for the naked short sellers to effect their goal? Another question that arises is should the investor's b/d who just earned a commission and therefore owes its client a fiduciary duty of care, be acting as the intermediary in this loan process keeping in mind that this b/d is being paid the cash value of the shares being loaned as a means of collateralizing the loan, all unbeknownst to his client the purchaser.
An interesting phenomenon occurs at these "cellar" levels. Since NASD Rule 3370 allows MMs to legally naked short sell into markets characterized by a plethora of buy orders at a time when few sell orders are in existence, a MM can theoretically "legally" sit at the $.0001 level and sell nonexistent shares all day long because at no bid and $.0001 ask there is obviously a huge disparity between buy orders and sell orders. What tends to happen is that every time the share price tries to get off of the cellar floor and onto the first step of the stairway at $.0001 there is somebody there to step on the hands of the victim corporation's market.
Once a given micro cap corporation is “boxed in the cellar” it doesn’t have a whole lot of options to climb its way out of the cellar. One obvious option would be for it to reverse split its way out of the cellar but history has shown that these are counter-productive as the market capitalization typically gets hammered and the post split share price level starts heading back to its original pre-split level.
Another option would be to organize a sustained buying effort and muscle your way out of the cellar but typically there will, as if by magic, be a naked short sell order there to meet each and every buy order. Sometimes the shareholder base can muster up enough buying pressure to put the market at $.0001 bid and $.0002 offer for a limited amount of time. Later the market makers will typically pound the $.0001 bids with a blitzkrieg of selling to wipe out all of the bids and the market goes back to no bid and $.0001 offer. When the weak-kneed shareholders see this a few times they usually make up their mind to sell their shares the next time that a $.0001 bid appears and to get the heck out of Dodge. This phenomenon is referred to as “shaking the tree” for weak-kneed investors and it is very effective.
At times the market will go to $.0001 bid and $.0003 offer. This sets up a juicy 200% spread for the MMs and tends to dissuade any buyers from reaching up to the "lofty" level of $.0003. If a $.0002 bid should appear from a MM not "playing ball" with the unscrupulous MMs, it will be hit so quickly that Level 2 will never reveal the existence of the bid. The $.0001 bid at $.0003 offer market sets up a "stalemate" wherein market makers can leisurely enjoy the huge spreads while the victim company slowly dilutes itself to death by paying the monthly bills with "real" shares sold at incredibly low levels. Since all of these development-stage corporations have to pay their monthly bills, time becomes on the side of the naked short sellers.
At times it almost seems that the unscrupulous market makers are not actively trying to kill the victim corporation but instead want to milk the situation for as long of a period of time as possible and let the corporation die a slow death by dilution. The reality is that it is extremely easy to strip away 99% of a victim company’s share price or market cap and to keep the victim corporation “boxed“ in the cellar, but it really is difficult to kill a corporation especially after management and the shareholder base have figured out the game that is being played at their expense.
As the weeks and months go by the market makers make a fortune with these huge percentage spreads but the net aggregate naked short positions become astronomical from all of this activity. This leads to some apprehension amongst the co-conspiring MMs. The predicament they find themselves in is that they can’t even stop naked short selling into every buy order that appears because if they do the share price will gap and this will put tremendous pressures on net capital reserves for the MMs and margin maintenance requirements for the co-conspiring hedge funds and others operating out of the more than 13,000 naked short selling margin accounts set up in Canada. And of course covering the naked short position is out of the question since they can’t even stop the day-to-day naked short selling in the first place and you can't be covering at the same time you continue to naked short sell.
What typically happens in these situations is that the victim company has to massively dilute its share structure from the constant paying of the monthly burn rate with money received from the selling of “real” shares at artificially low levels. Then the goal of the naked short sellers is to point out to the investors, usually via paid “Internet bashers”, that with the, let’s say, 50 billion shares currently issued and outstanding, that this lousy company is not worth the $5 million market cap it is trading at, especially if it is just a shell company whose primary business plan was wiped out by the naked short sellers’ tortuous interference earlier on.
The truth of the matter is that the single biggest asset of these victim companies often becomes the astronomically large aggregate naked short position that has accumulated throughout the initial “bear raid” and also during the “cellar boxing” phase. The goal of the victim company now becomes to avoid the 3 main goals of the naked short sellers, namely: bankruptcy, a reverse split, or the forced signing of a death spiral convertible debenture out of desperation. As long as the victim company can continue to pay the monthly burn rate, then the game plan becomes to make some of the strategic moves that hundreds of victim companies have been forced into doing which includes name changes, CUSIP # changes, cancel/reissue procedures, dividend distributions, amending of by-laws and Articles of Corporation, etc. Nevada domiciled companies usually cancel all of their shares in the system, both real and fake, and force shareholders and their b/ds to PROVE the ownership of the old “real” shares before they get a new “real” share. Many also file their civil suits at this time also. This indirect forcing of hundreds of U.S. micro cap corporations to go through all of these extraneous hoops and hurdles as a means to survive, whether it be due to regulatory apathy or lack of resources, is probably one of the biggest black eyes the U.S. financial systems have ever sustained. In a perfect world it would be the regulators that periodically audit the “C” and “D” sub-accounts at the DTCC, the proprietary accounts of the MMs, clearing firms, and Canadian b/ds, and force the buy-in of counterfeit shares, many of which are hiding behind altered CUSIP #s, that are detected above the Rule 11830 guidelines for allowable “failed deliveries” of one half of 1% of the shares issued. U.S. micro cap corporations should not have to periodically “purge” their share structure of counterfeit electronic book entries but if the regulators will not do it then management has a fiduciary duty to do it.
A lot of management teams become overwhelmed with grief and guilt in regards to the huge increase in the number of shares issued and outstanding that have accumulated during their “watch”. The truth however is that as long as management made the proper corporate governance moves throughout this ordeal then a huge number of resultant shares issued and outstanding is unavoidable and often indicative of an astronomically high naked short position and is nothing to be ashamed of. These massive naked short positions need to be looked upon as huge assets that need to be developed. Hopefully the regulators will come to grips with the reality of naked short selling and tactics like "Cellar boxing" and quickly address this fraud that has decimated thousands of U.S. micro cap corporations and the tens of millions of U.S. investors therein.
ok man :) i will sticky them too
Be ready, I'm gonna bring them to me on your board. It's a free zone. All of my posts on ARSC will have links back to your board.
i posted the same artical 2 months ago. as you on cellar boxing, mine was deleted tooo.
theres a lot of short interest in arsc .. ms and there paid bashers
Interesting, in both trading and postings between yesterdays session and todays session.
Knew the cellar boxing post would be deleted when I put it up. It is considered "OFF TOPIC" even when it is what is taking place with a given stock. But, I am aloud to put the post in a free zone!
Lol, I even left out the part where the MM's pay bashers to kill the company.
looool i know when they were deleting my post for no reason the admins said the same crap
This was the response I just got.
IH Admin [Linda]
Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:35:22 AM
Regarding your deletion review requests:
The cellar boxing post is for a general stock board, not a stock specific board.
As far as your second review request, the OT is below:
You have absolutely no clue as to what the post said, do you. Read it again, twice if needed
Your messages need to focus on the company and the stock and should not contain comments about people who post on the board. Other posters are never the topic of the board.
they should repost ur msg on cellar trading since it is on topic
just sent a message to the heads admins. have to see what happens next.
well looks like we be at no bid for another year,
idiots there dont listen. mms trew away the key
and personal attack too for the other reason.
notice my posts were deleted! the attack of supra maybe?
loool what r u doing?
Thanks, hopefully sometime next week, I'll be able to show what I'm doing. It'll be priceless!!!
For shits and giggles, sticky it for me, would like to see if I get attacked for.
i tried man no one is listening to me.. fuk them let them stay at no bid for another year
they have many retards there, lool
only way out of the cellar is taking out the sell orders
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