IBIS Wednesday, 02/23/11 12:04:41 AM Re: toohip4u post# 108 Post # of 131 Been awhile. Little info for ya on VNDM and their wall. Look for third party interests that Vandham Sec. has in green energy. Google this "third parties to Energy Compass". 7 hits down should be the vandham link. Direct link here. http://www.vandham.com/Third-Party-Services.asp Search around all things "energy compass" wise, read between the lines, ARSC and Hydra are polar opposites in third party vested interests with VNDM. Search further with keywords, and find lawsuits filed against VNDM by companys that VNDM financialy destroyed the same way they are doing to ARSC. It's all the third party thing! The new mm rules and regs. won't stop VNDM. Only way is to file sec comps, imo. L8r.