Hangover Joe's Holding Corp. (fka HJOE)

[Durand]

I think you mean "Hugh company" or maybe it's "Huge company" but who knows. HJOE's wrote the PR and even they have no idea what it's called.

Through understanding what the client really needed and wanted he created Huge Sales Inc. Hugh Sales, Inc. is a private company backed by Bryn Capital and was started around two and half years ago.

[BeerIsGood]

If this huge company is worth anything, they should have the contacts to get HJOE product(s) in Amazon warehouses this month.

[Durand]

They're so worried about "bashers" yet it's pretty much the easiest thing in the world to "beat the bashers". If everything they say is true then it should be no problem at all to prove it. They claim they have a letter of approval from the Korean FDA, so just post it. They spend all day screaming at "bashers" yet can't find time to post the letter? They claim the contract with Cure Korea is in the 10K so why not file it? If they can't find an auditor then file an 8K instead with the contract terms. They claim Gilstrap just invested money at .03 so file an 8K with the terms of the agreement. They claim they won't tell shareholders the revenue for the 4th quarter and 1st quarter 2015 because they're afraid they'll be called liars. Who cares if people call you a liar? The revenue is what it is. If you're reporting the actual revenue and you know it's true then who cares if someone on a message board calls you a liar? Any potential investor that does even a little due diligence would come to the conclusion that this is a scam. Whether it actually is a scam or not is beside the point. The way HJOE's management conducts themselves and the fact that they never seem to do anything right only serves to enforce the impression that it's a scam, whether true or not. It's just crazy that the moron running the social media doesn't seem to get that. The things they claim are "material events" and should be filed as 8K's as required so it's just baffling why they refuse to do it

[Alpha14]

This will probably get deleted too but there aren't many weak hands left there is just Gene gobbling up the twos and somebody buying a whole lot of .0003s today was 16m vol mostly buys on the 3s. Message board says one thing level2 is saying something different.

[BeerIsGood]

I'll do some checking but several larger companies create new businesses every year for tax purposes. Maybe that is the case here as well.

[Trushift]

Company taking HJOE to Walmart created 3 months ago

So Huge Sales Inc., the company claiming to have $700 million in annual revenue under management, and who HJOE has contracted with to place them on walmart.com amazon.com, etc was created 3 months ago.

Not only are they liars and fraudsters, they are horrible liars and inept fraudsters. Can't make this stuff up. I can't believe Larry the Cable Guy would even wave at them from across the street. Anyone who is as appalled at this brazen fraud should join me in exposing them to @gitrdonelarry on twitter and any other reputable company or people that have been disillusioned.

After they ranted about my postings here on IH on their twitter account (@thehangovershot), and me replying to those tweets, they have now blocked me. If they were legit, they would provide evidence and not hide in shadows and try to silence the questions. I hope and invite you to take up the cause of shutting down this scam of an operation with me.

[Durand]

I guess they have no snappy comeback as to why they had to hand out 5 billion shares to loan sharks when they had "Mr Gene" to fund them all along.

[Pinellasjoe]

Like their 10k preferred shares that convert to 178mil or whatever it is. I could see those being dumped right after the RS.

[Durand]

I can't either, his original 375,000 investment at .03 is now worth less than 3,000 bucks. I think when/if we actually see the terms of this latest investment, it will tell a very different story from the one HJOE is claiming now

[Pinellasjoe]

I still can't believe Gene is basically giving the company money at .03 cents a share.

[Durand]

Hmm, too bad "Mr Gene" wasn't around last year when you were handing out billions of shares to loan sharks and the stock price tanked 99.9% wiping out every single investor who ever bought shares, including "Mr Gene".

[Pinellasjoe]

Yep! Even better than the 10-k would be to shut SM accounts down..

[Durand]

I'm pretty sure the stock price would go up if they would just make even more illiterate and delusional twitter posts. Potential investors don't care about financials or 10K's or 8K's or Korean FDA approval or any of that insignificant stuff. They just like to see a company they invest in go on rants about evil "bashers" and "shorts" and mysterious "old dudes" all conspiring against them. That's what attracts the big money investors

[james885]

http://www.douglascompanies.com/news/tradeshow.aspx

[Durand]

Don't worry, the genius running HJOE's social media already used Twitter to scream at him and threaten to sue so that should make things all better.

[jackal228]

How does that make him a basher? He posted what seems to be a legit correspondence between him and HJOEs Facebook and him and Brandon Hughes....

[jackal228]

Why would anyone feel the NEED to tell you what kind of fancy cars and yachts they have?!

This is great Due Diligence on your part.

It is comical that his 'contacts' at Amazon, Drugstore.com, Target etc are 'email addresses'

As I said before, listing a product on a website is only that, A LISTING... This deal they have with this guy gets no sales...

[Trushift]

Walmart Target Amazon scam screenshots

I guess you can only edit a post for a few minutes after posting. Anyway, yes, sorry, Huge Sales is supposedly managing over $700 million in online revenue (not the measly $70 million I wrote in my earlier post).

Notice below how Bradon claims to own a bunch of lamborghini's, bentley's, 75 foot yacht, etc... Wonder if he gets many tickets for parking them on the street in front of his $80,000 apartment in wisconsin.

Here are some screenshots of messages with Hangover Joe's on facebook and Brandon Hughes on linkedin.

[jackal228]

Hopefully they didn't pay this guy with 1,000,000,000 shares!

[johnnytrader33]

Chag I want to believe trust me but they have been handing out free product for over a year. It doesnt sell. If it did you would see real sales numbers. Its a share selling operation now. I like your faith but the truth is coming out. These scum will pay trust me TRUST ME

[Durand]

It's actually 703 million in online sales with 56 employees and he does all this out of his 1 bedroom apartment in Wisconsin. It's funny that HJOE's doesn't even know what it's called. They refer to it as "Huge Sales, Inc" and then call it "Hugh Sales, Inc. And that Bryn Capital is just another Brandon Hughes company. It's just the usual BS from HJOE's. But it doesn't really matter, it's unlikely you'll ever hear anything about this deal again

[Chag]

I don't believe any of this. Go HJOE! Proof is in the product being sold. That is all that is important.

[johnnytrader33]

best case scenario is a pump run. I dont see any of those things happening . I am waiting on a reply with FYI on the truth behind this Food Factory airing and I will post immediately my findings.

[johnnytrader33]

what number did you use to reach the company and who were you able to get cussed at by? was it dumb dumber or the other dumb guy

[jackal228]

Great Research and DD. Sad findings.

[johnnytrader33]

wow wow wow can we sticky this please mods pure proof that HJOES IS A FRAUD

[Pinellasjoe]

I agree Jackal.
What's the likelihood of HJOE doing Food Factory, announcing national chain and showing containers heading to Korea without filing any 10's?
Maybe the best case scenario for us to get a decent run..

[Trushift]

Proof Walmart Amazon deal is fraudulent scam

- Huge Sales Inc, who HJOE supposedly contracted with, has no website. The ONLY thing Google finds via search is the PR about the HJOE deal. So with Huge Sales claiming to be an online e-commerce marketing expert with $70 million in annual online sales under management for clients, they don't even have a website or any web mention. No press releases from the $70 million in deals. There is no evidence that Huge Sales Inc. even exists.

- Brandon Hughes, CEO of Huge Sales appears to have grossly exaggerated his resumé. None of the companies he lists as being a CEO, owner or partner have a website or any evidence of existence. Don't be confused if you look up Pro-Tech Composites. Pro-Tech has a website and they do specialize in carbon fiber aircraft components, BUT THEY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF BRANDON HUGHES. I called them. I know. Notice he has over 500 linkedin connections but only a measly 8 skills recommendations for his best skill and zero written recommendations. Anyone with 500+ connections and success like he claims to have should have at least one happy customer, partner or employer - don't you think? A little digging into public records and you can see that Brandon owns and lives in an $80,000 condominium in Wisconsin and drives a 2004 Chrysler Crossfire (according to the speeding ticket he got in 2012).

- I called HJOE office (which is actually a cell phone) to ask questions to get clarity regarding Huge Sales and Brandon. I was cussed out with so much profanity a sailor would have taken notes. I was accused of being a short basher when in reality I was simply performing DD prior to taking long position. I was completely taken back by how I was treated. That is when I started to realize HJOE is in on the scam and I decided to expose them for what they are - a complete fraud.

- I messaged Brandon Hughes on Linkedin and had some very interesting responses to my questions. When asked 'What is the website for Huge Sales', he replied with: "I own the domain www.hugesalesinc.com, never activated it as I was advised by others in the online brokering community to keep it dormant. Online brokering is competitive enough". A quick whois search reveals that he registered the domain on March 4, 2015 - 40 days prior to the PR with HJOE. So either Brandon is the most amazing sales person on the planet and landed $70 million in managed revenue in less than a month of starting his business (heck, even to get that kind of business since his supposed start date of 2013 according to linkedin profile is miraculous) or he's not smart enough to register the domain name of an online marketing company for years after its formation. Can we say 'SCAM'.

- Yesterday I posted questions about Huge Sales and Brandon on their FB page and it was quickly deleted. I posted a second time and they replied defending Huge Sales and Brandon and then immediately deleted it.

I will try to post screenshots later - just can't figure out how to do it right now.

HJOE and Huge Sales appear to be in collusion. I trust appropriate legal action will be taken against those involved at some point in the near future. I have no position in HJOE and will not open any position.

I welcome any proof by Hangover Joe's or Huge Sales (Brandon Hughes) of inaccuracies in my findings.

[jackal228]

We should assume the worst case scenario that the A/S are 5B right now. Better safe than sorry....

[Pinellasjoe]

I'm thinking the website might need a little updating..

[Pinellasjoe]

One of the recent filings had OS close to 1.8 billion. I can't recall the date but within the last couple months.

[BeerIsGood]

This sounds good. Anyone have the patent application #?

Our shot features a patent-pending, proprietary "Get Up and Go" blend of all-natural ingredients

[johnnytrader33]

I wonder where the 30000 stores as per this load of crap... http://t.co/DZozqBe0YD

Unbelievable they can get away with this.

The Hangover Recovery Shot is available at 7-11, Albertsons, GNC and Walgreens, as well as national airports, regional convenience stores, liquor stores and grocery stores. In total, Hangover Joe's can be found in over 30,000 locations nationwide!

[johnnytrader33]

deception is key here,. thats why they communicate via Twitter

[jackal228]

5,000,000,000 Shares A/s x .0003 = $1,500,000

is this company worth $1,500,000? If you think yes then you should be a buyer right now. If no then hit the bricks..

It is really that simple.....

[johnnytrader33]

HJOE is excited to get out the 10k they have much they want to share with the investment community...

UM NO THEY ARE NOT OR THEY WOULD PRESS RELEASE IT

[BeerIsGood]

Sounds like they are doing the right thing by getting Huge involved. They have done wonders for other companies in the past but I can't seem to follow the money or the stock issuances.

Looks like filings say:
Tangiers Investment Group holds 166,666,666
Magna Asset Services, Ltd holds 168,181,819
for a total of 334,848,485 just from these two entities.

But per the 10Q only 331,077,877 shares outstanding.

KBM can convert to get 320 million or more

and all this was when the A/S was 500M

No wonder they needed to increase to 5 billion.

[brigar6]

Where do you get any of this information from ?
It sounds great,and I admire your stay in it to win it motto.

-GENE is honoring his agreement to invest in the company at .03 per share... I am sure he knows way more about what is going on than anyone posting on board!!!
-Sales are going to deliver HJOE to new pps.... We true investors are excited about the future
-HJOE sales are moving forward... investment is being made... orders are shipping... and very soon the product will be in Korea, Japan, & China! with a 50% payment up front!
-HJOE 1,235,063 volume as those trying to get in at .0002 just cant...
Sales are happening... customers like the product... GO HJOE...
HJOE is excited to get out the 10k they have much they want to share with the investment community...
-Fact HJOE is selling product well.... sales are growing... Going into Japan... China... Korea... with 50% down payment on orders... starting to ship in June...
-HJOE has received more investment to move the company forward...
-Large U.S. retailer taking on product.... this company is moving forward!
-HJOE has a group who has been only posting negative statements for over 1 year now... you have to ask yourself who has enough time to post day in and day out and wage a campaign against HJOE and WHY? well make up your own mind as for me I am in it to win it

[johnnytrader33]

Love your handle name by the way as Beer is absolutely great. Were not dealing with a company that is in any way honest or looks out for their shareholders. Were looking at a shady shady company any way you look at it. Wouldnt suprise me if they drink away shareholder money

[BeerIsGood]

When? For what? I don't see any filing or PR that states anything of the kind.
Or the I-box either.

Thanks

[johnnytrader33]

I believe we agree on something. These rednecks including Mr. jockstrap or whatever his name is are a bunch of idiots

[Chag]

He did believe it or not

[Pinellasjoe]

It will be in the 10-k..haha!!

[jackal228]

If he paid 100x market price per share he may be the biggest idiot on the face of gods green earth. There is no way he did that.

[Chag]

Mr Gilstrap wrote the check

[BeerIsGood]

he wrote a check that night

Who wrote a check?

[Pinellasjoe]

On Twitter HJOE said he wrote a check that night they announced it.

[jackal228]

There is no way this guy is investing at .03/share If he was he would just buy all the shares at market and raise it to .03

If I had to guess (with the assmption that he IS investing) that he is he is the guy sitting at 0002 gobbling up shares over and over and over again

[johnnytrader33]

You would think after the pumping of all the good things on Twitter by HJOE in the filing they would rush to get it done or press release what's so great in the filing. They choose to do neither of the two which proves they don't give a rats ass about shareholder value.

[johnnytrader33]

It's not a priority. These shady clowns could care less about shareholder value. The reverse split has already been approved. Any press release is to dump shares.