Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Crow3, All so true!
And when you read that said company is paying their "consultants" with shares...
...you should suspect that these, so called, consultants are actually forum "shills" representing the company online to pump the stock.
It is not so hard to "see" these transparent games being played. All you have to do is lose about $50,000 to a few of these scams and that should provide some insight and properly focus your attention. Forewarned is forearmed.
VV
Dilution?? That one is easy. Although it is not easy to actually dilute zero real worth..a LOL!! here... Just sell them damn shares.. sell them whether they exist or not. Short, naked short..do it all. "Print" them up. It costs little to get the SOS to authorize all you want.
Eventually, the suckers will get discouraged and sell.. running the SP down.
When it gets low enough, that is the time for the reverse split.. wait a couple weeks, announce the symbol/business change.. start off with a pretty good left-over SP and then begin the dilution all over again.. Just SELL THEM SHARES.
This scam seems relatively easy to figure out.
Incorporate a company.. authorize shares in the millions. A shell is thus made from thin air, and a few bucks to a SOS especially in Fl or Nevada. Get a trading symbol.
Do a catchy concept, hire a talented promotor. Sell shares, and do just enough "product" to look semi-legit. Selling shares is the main business, always, though...and the only real business of the company.
Stay on the pinks, where lies and liars are not unusual. In fact, so numerous that the regulators cannot cope with or hope to stop you. WHERE YOU CAN LIE WITH IMPUNITY..And Never have to make any stupid quarterly or annual reports, and disclose share structure or financials..
Recruit some "True Believers" to help bash bashers and wax estatic about the great potential of the stock, and how they are all going to be rich, if they only buy and hold.. and hold,,and hold. Put them recruited True Belivers busy on the stock boards.
Eventually run the shares down to almost nothing..then declare a large reverse split. Change the symbol and "business", hire a new promoter.. Repeat..then Repeat.. then Repeat..
IMPORTANT...DO NOT FORGET TO LIE!!!! BUT TRY TO AVOID UNNESSARY LIES!!! It is the unnessary lies that get you into trouble. Keep your eye on the ball.. keep strongly in mind that the objective is to SELL SHARES!!
GLCP-formerly GLLK....
Black Stock #1 Definant enemy LLBT.
EHDN should be on top of list. delute-rs-delute-rs delute.
I don't see SMMW on the list ? The A/S of 80 BILLION is diluted to about 77.5 BILLION which means it is almost maxed out.
If they ever go public, short it into the dirt, mcgirt. lol
lol, how bout this ticker.... NASD
This board is a good tool to track and learn about the pirates and thieves on the OTCBB and pink sheets. Hats off to you Art2Gecko for starting this board.
Changed Name so many times in the last 3 years I can't remember how many splits. 6 I think.
WNSH 1:1250 R/S 01/26/2006
WHLI 1:1500 R/S 06/23/2005
WNHL 1:1000 R/S 03/07/2005
IDGN 1:1000 R/S 12/01/2004
IDGE 1:250 R/S 08/16/2004
IGTT 1:250 R/S 08/13/2003
Became WHLI now WNSH 1250 to 1 reverse split indiginet, winstead holdings whatever you want to call it.
1:1000 RS on SVXP
SVXP: Sets 1-1000 Reverse Stk Split; Eff Jan 17
Friday , January 13, 2006 14:30 ET
According to the NASDAQ Dividend List, Sovereign Exploration Associates International, Inc. (OTCBB: SVXP) has declared a 1-1000 reverse stock split. This reverse stock split will ONLY be available to shareholders of record as of January 17, 2006.
DECL-DATE X-DATE REC-DATE PAY-DATE
----------- ----------- ----------- -----------
01/13/2006 01/17/2006 N/A N/A
AMOUNT: 1-1000 reverse split
FREQUENCY: N/A
CHANGE: N/A
ADDITIONAL INFO: New symbol (SVXA)
Knobias may issue additional reminder alerts to track the important dates surrounding this corporate action.
Should update the iBox to reflect the recent symbol changes of tsbi/cali. changed to SVXP and now SVXA
TSBI / CALI has changed its name and symbol.
It's now known as Sovereign Exploration Associates International, Inc.
Trading symbol: SVXP. As far as I can tell, this latest name change doesn't come with a reverse split, but I bet it won't be long.
Might wanna update the iBox.
A stock blacklist, check it out and watch out: http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/8/t/016933/p/1.html#00...
Are paid pumper/promoters/marketers believable for the investor?
Computer 206-102-161-11 has been found. It is probably located in or around Schaumburg, IL, USA as this is where the organization or individual who manages the system is located.
http://tinyurl.com/djkux Hoover .com archive
Network Contact Information: The following details refer to the network that the system is on.
ACNIELSEN
150 NORTH MARTINGALE ROAD SCHAUMBURG IL 60173 US
Greatday8, greatday88,greatday888, imok, etal
HOW MUCH is the deal with Lueck?????
Might as well throw the code out the window!
The Nielsen Code
Arthur C. Nielsen, Sr.
Chairman, A. C. Nielsen Company, 1931
In 1931, Arthur C. Nielsen, Sr., wrote the Nielsen Code, defining the principles that would guide ACNielsen to global leadership in marketing research. The Code remains relevant today and continues to guide our business.
Impartiality
Be influenced by nothing but your clients' interests. Tell them the truth.
Thoroughness
Accept business only at a price permitting thoroughness. Then do a thorough job, regardless of cost to us.
Accuracy
Watch every detail that affects the accuracy of your work.
Integrity
Keep the problems of clients and prospects confidential. Divulge information only with their consent.
Economy
Employ every economy consistent with thoroughness, accuracy and reliability.
Price
Quote prices that will yield a fair profit. Never change your price unless warranted by a change in specifications.
Delivery
Give your clients the earliest delivery consistent with quality - whatever the inconvenience to us.
Service
Leave no stone unturned to help your clients realize maximum profits from their investment.
Does the AC Nielsen company know you use their servers to help you promote the GETC stock for your person or is this a business connection for the company.... after all these years of using the office isp?
How come a greatday8 ISP and an Imok ISP come up coming from AC Nielsen company?
www.acnielsen.com (By the way, How's Opperman?)
AND another accomplice on the HSM pump and dump board.
Now the ACNielsen locator turns up in Green Bay , wisconsin,,,, where Mr O is !!!
What ever came truthful out of any GETC promo by you all these years?
By: stan_1492
10 Aug 2005, 07:36 PM EDT
Msg. 40741 of 40754
(This msg. is a reply to 40740 by stan_1492.)
Jump to msg. #
note to "special-k100" and his online supporters and bashers on this board!! hmmm, after reading that letter and tax info i am just soooooo curious to know how you called this a "fraud"? please tell us all how this is a "fraud"?
and now think really hard and tell me whether the fraud is coming from the company in their 10Q (which may not be exactly as you interprete?) or is it in the words you have chosen and posted on this board about getc perpetuating a "fraud".
do you think you might have crossed the line "special-k100"!? do you think you should be correcting your statements and making a retraction of your false statements to government officials that were not aware of the ownership and communications, which conform to getc's filings!!!?
now are ya sure you're not trying to improperly influence getc shareholders through your false, misleading and untrue information!!??
tick, tick, tick, tick!
GETC shareholder gets answers to questions about coal.
You may have read on several boards posts by "Landlord", also goes by "Special-K100" on RB, and his charges concerning Geotec and their Illinois coal. Roatan2 did a wonderful job in getting information and answers.
Read: 1. Letter from Geotec
2. Attachment 1: Bergmann Letter
3. Attachment 2: State of Illinois Tax returns (You will need to follow the link.
roatan2
Stock God
Veteran Member
*****
Posts: 7166
Re: GETC- Share buyback for ESOP 10M & Rep/Retire
« Reply #269 on: Today at 5:53pm »
I had communication with Geotec management to follow up on some false and misleading statements that have been posted on other Internet message boards about the company and its current deals. Below is the response I received to my query from Geotec along with the two related attachments:
=======
Dear xxxxx,
Thank you for your comments and for bringing to our attention the issues of ownership as stated on the Internet.
First, the attached letter from Mr. Joe Bergmann, dated May 9, 2005, clearly states the ownership in the name of Lancaster International. The process is also clearly stated in Mr. Bergmann's letter.
Second, the ownership is certainly confirmed by the attached tax returns for the State of Illinois.
We see no irregularity. We believe this communication verifies the information in our filings with the SEC and any press releases that Geotec has made.
Sincerely yours,
Geotec Thermal Generators, Inc.
======
Attachment 1: Bergmann Letter
Consolidated Resources Group, Inc.
_____________________________________________________________________
5858 W. Atlantic Avenue / Delray Beach, Fl 33484 / 561-265-2382 / Fax: 561-265-1880
May 9, 2005
Mr. W. Richard Lueck, CEO
GeoTec, Inc.
110 E. Atlantic Avenue, Suite 2000
Delray Beach, Fl 33444
Dear Rick:
This letter is in response to our recent telephone conversation as to the ownership of the Fiatt Illinois coal site.
1.) On November 12, 2003. Lancaster International Corporation acquired the Fiatt coal site (approximately 500 acres) in Fulton, Illinois via Quit Claim Deed #34845. On March 19, 2004, a corrected Quit Claim Deed #37808 was recorded with the County. The Quit Claim Deeds give Lancaster International ownership of the property, and all mineral rights and assets thereon. As further proof of ownership of the property, attached are the real estate tax bills issued by Fulton County, State of Illinois to Lancaster International for all eleven parcels into which the site is divided.
2.) The property is currently in receivership by the State of Illinois , which it has been for some time. This gives the State control over what happens on the property, not ownership of the property. Once the permit application is filed and the Reclamation Bond is posted, the State releases control of what is done on the property, because it will have approved the permit application.
3.) The process that is going to be used by the corporation processing the coal will be detailed in the application for the permit and, as previously noted, we are very confident that this process, which requires no water, will be approved by the State and County. The original estimation on the Reclamation Bond was between $12-$15 million dollars. Therefore, the $4 million bond that was communicated by Al Claybourne, is well within the estimate.
It appears that the confusion is between ownership and receivership, and until permit application is filed, with the bond posted, the State of Illinois would technically be in receivership of the property. Hopefully, this clears up any confusion that came about in conversation with Al Claybourne.
Sincerely,
Joseph R. Bergmann
President & CEO
Enc. (Real Estate Tax Bills)
CC: Raymond Lancaster, Lancaster International Corporation
=======================
Attachment 2: State of Illinois Tax returns
http://www.hotstockmarket.com/board/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Stockstips;action=display;num=1098497....
(scroll to bottom of page 18 to read "Attachment 2"!)
Have you forwarded a complaint to the SEC's enforcement division?
If not, recommend giving them a synopsis of the story. Then point out each filing which you believe has fraudulent information and explain why you think it is. Also include contact info for the Illinois Assistant Attorney General with whom you corresponded.
Fraud alert. But why is Investors Hub allowing a fraud to edit and delete information ?... deleted 3 times already.
GETC
Posted by: LandLord
In reply to: None Date:8/10/2005 8:55:45 AM
Post #of 323
FRAUD shouldn't be deleted from a board Lueck.
The attorney general has his eyes open.
Joseph R. Bergmann, Justin Wallace Herman,W. Richard Lueck,Bradley T. Ray,Obrian Norris
Dr. Art Gottmann, Oscar SANCHEZ, Cindy Estes, Michael PARKOFF, and Ceasar Nunnis and ferruza
- (a couple good sunbiz.org customers there too...Parkoff and Sanchez) Consolidated Resources ,Deeerfield this and Deerfield that,Feruzza and his ft leasing,,,, all part of the fraud.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1087717/000116169705000163/form8-k_jan032005.htm
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1087717/000116169705000209/form8-k_mar142005.htm
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1087717/000116169705000228/form8-k_mar152005.htm
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1087717/000116169705000633/form8-k_jun102005.txt
http://tinyurl.com/72u3o
There is No permit to remove coal from the site as the fraudulent pump and dumpers for this company keep stating and no assets of finished goods as filed either. The site is in receivership to the State of Illinois for EPA Non Compliance. Has been for almost 2 years.
ALL part of the fraud!
roatan2
Stock God
Veteran Member
Posts: 7125
Re: GETC- 10QSB filed on 05/13/05 for quarter 03/3
« Reply #230 on: May 13th, 2005, 2:42pm » Quote Modify
-------------------------------------------------------
CURRENT ASSETS:
Cash ...................................................... $ 197,300
Due from related party .................................... 50,551
Inventory - Finished Goods ....................... 18,960,000
------------
TOTAL CURRENT ASSETS ........................... 19,207,851
------------
Note Receivable ........................................... 400,000
Property and Equipment, net ............................... 6,500
Deposits .................................................. 37,500
------------ $19,652,080
FINISHED GOODS. There are NO finished goods. Actually the condition of the coal and the damages it has done is in the JUDGEMENT.
Dept of Mines and Minerals- 217-782-4970
The Illinois Assistant Attorney General that worked on this disaster has faxed the 7 page document signed by Judge Bordner putting the site in the hands of the State. A First priority lien by the State is on the properties. This attorney general was very interested in this story.
This is the LAST page of the judgement I scanned and copied. I can fax the whole document to anyone.
img.villagephotos.com/p/2...ership.jpg
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=7300263
PITK/VRMD/VRMV/MMFS/MFSN
400-1 under VRMD and 200-1 under MMFS
But there is an investigation going on as it seems there are 2 differing signatures on filings for the same person.
Seems McLeod's signatures aren't the same. Mcleoed also has his own corporation that didn't seem to get merged as PRd since he filed his State Corporation papers 2 months after he was supposedly merged vith the scammers Duffy and Rhoden.
page 4
http://www.sunbiz.org/COR/2002/0917/60417636.tif
page 3
http://www.sunbiz.org/COR/2005/0325/H0069117.Tif
I can't get all of them, lol I do take suggestions! this isn't just my own list, all are welcome to nominate candidates for this illustrious hall....
Thanks Art2Gecko! eom.
good idea, the unlimited Authorized makes it a perfect candidate...lol
Oh! Oh! I got one! THTHF just annouced a proposal for a 1 for 5000 reverse split!
Can you pretty please put that in the ibox??!!
Ya gotta put this in the iBox. One of the worst POS's....
02/25/2005 PCOR 1-1000 R/S **
PCLL Pacel Corp. New Common Stock
It's gotta be red flagged. The only 'real' revs are from
R/S and F/S, symbol changes. And it all goes to......... The POS, ha.
Never mind. :)
Hi Art, flota posted your board link on our board and I think your idea is fantastic. Kudos to you. Expect more of ours to come over and say hi.
Ken
flota, I thought about buying a shell, doing a reverse merger with AFRT, and renaming the ticker LMAO, but I noticed that LMAO is a Legg Mason 75 call symbol...
...also it looks like LOL is taken by L March 9 puts ---
art I love that line...repeat business model..LOL
got pencil and eraser...
Art....fantastic idea Thanks for creating this.Just hope my "dogs" don't show up here!!!lol
lol.... hmmmm. perhaps, But Mario hasn't repeatedly issued billions of shares, reverse split the stock, and repeated the process over and over,,,
Pino is apparently a pathological liar, but he has a long way to go to compete with the out and out dilution freaks like GMBK, GAWD, AFRD (or whatever the ticker of the week is now), PCOR
Art. Thank you for your reply and for it being so timely.
Chucker
Not sure what you would "type in" to find it from the front page, but when you are on this board http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=2907 just click "add to favorites" and you'll always see when new messages pop up when you click on your "favorites"
Art. I found this board by accident this morning. Could you please tell me what to type in on the front page of I Hub in order to get to this board in the future. I know I will not be able to find this again without your help so could you reply to me on another board,---- CDED or NEOM or CTKH, Thank you. Chucker
JRVC again??? Unbelievable...
Copied from RagingBull because this tells it like it is....
===============================================================
By: sparty-1
24 Dec 2004, 02:23 PM EST
Msg. 12233 of 12234
JVRC bounce expected on Monday Dec. 27
I think they refer to it as a dead cat bounce.
On 8-2-2004 the company increased their Authorized Share count to 1,980,000,000
On 8-16-2004 the company issued an S-8 for 199,000,000 shares and …………………………..
On 10-5-2004 the company issued an S-8 for 499,000,000 shares and …………………………..
On 11-19-2004 the company announced a reverse split of 1000-1, effective Monday, 11/22/2004 and .........
On 12-23-2004 the company issued an S-8 for 995,000,000 shares.
Stock is now selling at a pre split price of .0000014
Merry Christmas shareholders from Dennis & Maureen
===============================================================
We need to keep getting the word out on these slim bag stock fraudsters. Otherwise the OTCBB is going to end up just a sewer for scam stocks.
JRVR - 995MM S-8 out after close.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1159770/000101540204005579/doc1.txt
Ok here's another one.... ATNG/ZANN 1-900 r/s and a 998M S8 What another POS
I made some on that as well.
Followers
|
38
|
Posters
|
|
Posts (Today)
|
0
|
Posts (Total)
|
137
|
Created
|
09/24/04
|
Type
|
Free
|
Moderators |
Volume | |
Day Range: | |
Bid Price | |
Ask Price | |
Last Trade Time: |