You guys should check out the CTKH board -- some great DD .. there are about a half dozen of us that have been accumulating shares for years... this company is solid (just quiet and non-reporting) Among about 10-12 board members we've locked up 1/3-1/2 the float (approximately 2 billion owned by about 10 of us) When this starts to move it will go fast --- most of us believe the PPS would be valued fairly at .01-.10 based on publically available info on OS,revenues and the sector they occupy.