I use 13ema -20ma - golden cross to determine beginning of a bullish trend , 13ema bounces - continuation of the bullish trend and 13em-20ma dead cross - end of the bullish trend... in General its rly useful and rly simple combined indicator. ;]]] Its quite simple to determine entries or exits using it... i personally combine it with ADX and Candle Signals - aswell as Channels and Windows to determine when to enter or exit a trade :]] ( when more of then line up - better the chance is the trade to workout) ;]]]