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jhalada

05/05/03 11:28 PM

#3945 RE: wbmw #3928

wbmw,

QuantiSpeed is one so-called standard that has always rubbed me the wrong way, and I believe I have enough good reasons to argue against it in every way.

Ok, at least you now admit to being an instigator of these debates, rather than saying things such as "Whenever I see QuantiSpeed questioned", since you are most of the time the questioner. Well, that's progress.

Some people have convinced themselves that QuantiSpeed is the only way for AMD to market their processors, but they say so without even trying to think of something better. Abolishing megahertz is not the answer. Coming up with a rating that looks like megahertz is not the answer, either. Performance is a complex picture that must be boiled down to a consistent marketing message - a monumental task, for sure, but one that is necessary. You can't create an arbitrary measurement when an existing measurement doesn't tell the whole story.

Yup, exactly from the playbook. AMD needs to discover origin of universe and the really, really true measure of performance. It is truly a monumental task, as you say. A task that. BTW, will never be achieved and agreed on.

At the same time, it is fine with you that Intel pushes MHz as a measure of processor performance. You have not found any reason to argue against this. For every processor that is sold with QS measurement of performance, there are 5 that are sold with MHz as a measurement of performance.

You spend 100% of your time on a minor problem, 0% of your time on the problem 5x bigger. A curious devotion of resources on your part, wouldn't you say?

Joe
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j3pflynn

05/06/03 5:43 AM

#3969 RE: wbmw #3928

wbmw, the problem is that AMD has to deal with the constraints of reality. Intel is the big dog, and you know darn well they'll never allow a TPI effort to succeed, because it would not reflect well on them. I can't necessarily blame them for that, they have to do what's good for them. I don't think AMD has the influence to pull off TPI by themselves(it is not a trivial undertaking), and they're the most powerful of the alternative manufacturers. So, they have to do what they realistically can accomplish. It's not the best but it beats the old alternative by a long shot. So, let's move on to other subjects!
Paul