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02/17/14 8:49 PM

#130080 RE: wbmw #130079

Good. It's nice to see the ever-arrogant Samsung get its comeuppance. I remember their bold statements at their analyst day re: 20nm and 14nm. When Intel is having problems with 14nm, don't expect anybody to believe you when you claim that you'll do it nice and easy.

p.s. if 20nm yields suck, how does anybody say with a straight face that they'll have the A9 orders on 14nm FinFET? If you can't get 20nm right, then good luck getting 14nm right!
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VeeCee

02/17/14 9:15 PM

#130085 RE: wbmw #130079

Was Samsung using 3-D process for its 20nm chips?
I have a feeling TSMC will run into similar yield problems.
Someone commented about that in comments section of that article.
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muzohub

02/17/14 10:19 PM

#130094 RE: wbmw #130079

i think most of the posters, in their glee for samsung yield problems, are overlooking the fact that it seems tsmc can make enough a8 in their 20nm process in 2014 and a9 with 16nm in 2015.

maybe the thinking is is samsung is having yield issues, tmsc must be too and apple won't be able to find anyone to make their chips?
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mas

02/18/14 7:14 AM

#130115 RE: wbmw #130079

It's possible that Samsung may still be having issues scaling Gate-First to 20nm, and do not yet have a backup plan to transition to Gate-Last.

No, they planned to go gate-last at 20nm and that is probably the issue as they are new to it. They should have stuck to gate-first by the looks of things.